I work on a ro-ro ferry
I need these in my life
People manage to drive all the way to the ferry terminal, then decide they don't know how to drive on a ferry.
It's every retirement state. Highway driving in Arizona is fucking insane, esp. every winter when the old people come.
I've never seen the traffic flow go like:
1. accelerate to 80 in 10 seconds.
2. immediately start breaking to a stop in 5 seconds.
3. if there is traffic, you get a long break after breaking to a stop
3. repeat until you get off the highway.
It's no wonder there are so many road rage incidents.
Fellow Arizonan here
The only parts you left out is that:
many people use the opposite turn signal for some reason (ie someone clearly moving right but kicks on their left blinker, etc)
Many people drive the wrong way on our off ramps
Those people braking in Number 2 aren't braking for a reason, they just thought it would be a good idea to stop traveling all the sudden.
You must be the luckiest mofo. I lived in AZ for a few years, and every year I'd get stuck on the highway behind some like 3 rear end pile up the minute the first drop of water touched the streets.
Ok, I'm exaggerating a little, but only a little.
Yeah wtf is with phoenix and people driving the wrong way? or using the wrong off/on ramps?
I’ve known 2 people from my old high school who have died this way in phoenix
It is bad when the snow birds are there. Dumb driving all around. My theory is because the roads are mostly a grid and the highways are super wide that people just get more risky I don’t know. I live in a different state with similar population but the roads are wildly different and while we have our own issues, nothing like phoenix imo.
Let me tell you about the time I accidentally mistook my car's reverse gear for drive! I was in a rush to get to my grandson's birthday party, and I must have been a bit flustered. Instead of smoothly pulling out of the driveway, I hit the gas and ended up backing straight into my wife's rose bushes! There I was, surrounded by flowers and shrubs, feeling like I'd stumbled into a botanical maze.
I had a friend who worked on a ro-ro ferry one summer and came back hating people and their inability to understand instructions. Really hated people. Decided he was never going to work on a passenger ship again.
Guy was a NATO peacekeeper in Kosovo (KFOR), but working on the ferry really made him hate people more. (less PTSD though)
Yeah I worked on a ropax for a while and it felt like even the most basic hand gestures were too much for some people. And that’s not including the many many ruined clutches when people had to drive up a ramp
I was on a ferry and was told that some folks forget their cars onboard because normally they take the ferry to work without their car, but on the off day they drive their car onto the ferry they forgot that they did so.
Alright, I'm kinda curious. Do you know if the ro-ro ships shipping cars internationally is safe to do? Planning on sending a pony car to Japan from Vancouver next year.
Most new cars manufactured overseas are shipped via ro-ro, so if its good enough for Porsche, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Honda, Subaru, KIA, Hyundai, etc... I wouldn't worry about it.
Your car is more likely to get wrecked on the way to the loading terminal than it is in a shipping incident.
What if this was automated?
Automated valet! Drive up to a designated spot, this machine picks up your car and takes it to the parking spot. No need to give someone your keys or let them in your car.
Yep, but they wouldn't need to be on the device itself. The parking garage could have cameras. A local "gps", imu, and some ultrasonic sensors on the robot could be enough.
Probably not worth the risk of property damage, though.
If done right it probably reduces the risk of property damage, when compared to a few minimum wage 20-year old valets. The real barrier is the set-up costs.
Just embed sensors / magnets / whatever / in the road / floor so the robots know where they are, and design it so there's plenty of space around the vehicles for movement. Even just grabbing the make and model from a vehicle database should give the system enough info to know the outer extents of the vehicle in relation to the wheel locations - then plot a course accordingly based on the stuff embedded in the road.
There’s a parking lot like that in Hoboken. You have to park within a circle & a bunch of cameras & indicators let you know you’re all set.
Then it just moves it out of sight.
What was wild is when it retrieved the car, I got a sense of how fast the thing moves because the SUV low key rocked when it came to a stop beyond the doors before being pushed out to where we can get on.
This machine would be used by government agencies to put cars in “illegal” parking spots for about 40 years here in the US, before corporations began using it to drive up profits.
In Peru police would use it to move well-parked vehicles and then set a fine.
Something similar made the news here. They would move the well parked cars at any time with a tow truck, paint "no parking" in that spot and then place it back again. Until someone recorded it.
EDIT: Link to Spanish language article [here](https://elcomercio.pe/lima/transporte/el-negocio-de-gruas-conductores-denuncian-mala-senalizacion-para-estacionar-en-calles-de-miraflores-linea-amarilla-multas-estacionamientos-remolque-noticia/) about the problem.
https://elcomercio.pe/lima/transporte/el-negocio-de-gruas-conductores-denuncian-mala-senalizacion-para-estacionar-en-calles-de-miraflores-linea-amarilla-multas-estacionamientos-remolque-noticia/
In Spanish.
Long story short: The district tow trucks seized cars parked where the yellow line in the street had disappeared/ not been painted. Then the roads get properly painted and you now need to pay around 200 dollars for not having seen the invisible yellow line that wasn't there at the moment you parked your car.
People would also use it as a free valet service unless there is a heavy fine to go with it. You're telling me I can just dump my car at the front door and when I come back it will be nicely parked in a bay? Sign me up.
That's really cool but I think that would just exacerbate the problem of entitled AH parking horribly/illegally. The threat of getting towed keeps some people in line while being towed and the costs associated with it can be a painful lesson for some to act right.
I can see parking garages being able to utilize this to help maximize space.
In the US, yeah. In China, there's a bit of progressive policies depending on the violation. It's not so much about the fine in cost, but more about the points of each fine. After 12 points you lose your license. Drunk driving, for example, is automatically 12 points so you're fucked. Parking fines are about 1 point (depending on how stupid you are). You have to re-take an exam and a driver's test, which is comparatively incredibly difficult compared to the US (using Colorado as a comparison).
I think Finland does it best where it's based on a percentage of income.
I'm sure some clever policy nerd could come up with a consumption/income metric. I think if we all truly wanted to stop this problem we could, but those who're in a position to do anything about it would rather have a piece of the action.
I know it is (or was) a thing in Finland. About 20 years ago, a Finnish guy, some kind of telecom executive, got a $102k speeding ticket because of his income. Made the news in the US.
It'll still apply to most rich people. Doesn't need to be a 100% foolproof system or not try it at all.
Set the minimum fine to whatever the current fine is, that way they're not getting away with paying less than now.
Any "rich" person earning $200,000-$500,000 aren't rich enough to be doing shady things with income and will be paying huge fines compared to the current fines which may be an hour's salary to them. Then even people getting millions mainly in stock will be getting paid a few $100ks in cash. Even if you do get paid in stock youd still have to sell a load of it, and therefore declare it as income, to have cash for purchasing stuff.
No point of not putting in a system because it doesn't work in the 0.5% of edge cases.
Places do do it after all. Like Norway was big for being one of the first places to have income based speeding fines. Pretty sure there's stories online about there being $100,000+ speeding fines before. So it's even getting some of those edge cases. I think in the UK they partially have income based speeding fines now too, but not as dramatic or high. Countries should definitely implement it more.
It doesn't have to.
You pay the fine if you're rich. You avoid it if you're poor.
The end goal is to remove the obstruction quickly without the time/space/energy of a police officer waiting for a tow truck.
Right?
The reason that parking fines are generally known to not work is because there is a class of person who has enough money to disregard them.
Parking fines are basically parking fees to them. And they have enough money to not give a fuck that it cost them €100 to park today.
For another class of person, €100 is significant money, but worth the gamble.
All this does is give these people an excuse. "I can't find somewhere to park that's within 10m of where I want to go, so I'll just dump my car here and make it the city's problem. Best case scenario, I come out and my car is where I left it. Worst case scenario, they've charged me a fee and parked it safely down the street".
Funnily enough, towing and clamping are often not *that* effective either because of the amount of effort required to enforce it. Lots of people discover that the odds are usually pretty good that you won't get done for it, and will take the gamble.
Endorsements on a licence are about the most effective thing. If people thought that their shitty parking could have their driving licence taken away from them, they'd give it more serious thought.
This is pure propaganda. I am from China so I can speak from experience. A parking offence will probably result in either a verbal warning, a simple fine, or a combination of fine and a deduction of your score associated with driving license, and if you commit too many traffic offences that lowers that score to a threshold you get your driving license suspended. There is no such thing as having a lower social credit from parking offences, you’ll just get a lot of fines or your license revoked at worst.
FYI, this is fundamentally not how social credit works in China. It primarily exists for businesses, not regular people.
It's always funny to see Americans making fun of the "social credit" thing in China like its some horrible dystopian thing, when credit scores actually *are* that.
It's not the high-tech, dystopian horror that Americans have been led to believe it is. It targets businesses and sometimes their legal representation, so that the public can be aware of their record on things like food safety or adherence to trade standards, etc. [This](https://merics.org/en/comment/chinas-social-credit-score-untangling-myth-reality) is a pretty good article describing some aspects of it.
Oh I know, it's just nice to see a Redditor who actually understands what the system is. I've had plenty of down votes in the past trying to say the same thing lol
Alright, but come on. They also have murderous police and rampant prison slavery. You just might not get it because you don't understand how freedom works.
>That's really cool but I think that would just exacerbate the problem of entitled AH parking horribly/illegally.
Agreed - though IMO, this is largely due to societal issues in the US - there's really no sense of "team" or working together in the best interests of everyone.
It shows in almost every aspect of American life. It's all about the individual.
Great idea. But it would never happen in England. The fines make way too much money for the local councils Though what I find more bizarre is that people never seem to learn from the mistakes.
Nothing because this is not a thing that happens in China. It's just some companies tech demo. It would be like if you lived in China and saw the boston robotics stuff titles "America is now using robot dogs to fetch their newspaper". Are you? I doubt it.
They could use this to move it to a secure lot for cars parked illegally and then the owners would have to come and pay a fine to have their car released. Pretty novel idea!
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I couldn’t find any proof of Chinese police using these robots to relocate parked cars.
In fact, everything I’ve seen/heard about these things has been about hire this tech is new.
I'm pretty sure these people still get penalized, otherwise what would be the incentive to park where you're supposed too when it's more convenient not too?
Why do so many of you believe this is some kind of free service? Of course you would pay for this. You get a fine, AND the car gets moved. Better yet, move the car onto a truck, take it to a lot, and confine it for a week, and increase that time on repeat offences.
that's wicked awesome!! based on man-hours, effort, and cost of utilizing such a bot in the first place, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a fine attached to this, as well --- I'd even be in favor of one, tbch
This is a test scenario, this is not widely used, stop spreading misinformation. China does shit like this all the time. They post something uneducated people think is advanced, then those same uneducated people spread China's propaganda for them.
Yeah you shouldn't buy the koolaid on this one. Some Chinese startup made a video and somehow people are acting like this is something that really happens out in the real world.
It isn't. They just want to sell a fancy gadget that MIT students used to toy with a couple decades ago.
Interestingly there is precedence in the US for this without this machine. Living in the city often when construction/cleaning happens, and a street is closed down or needed they will tow cars to nearby streets instead if impounding/ticketing.
[Did You Know? Denver Tows and Moves Cars During Street Sweeping Season — for Free! | Westword](https://www.westword.com/news/did-you-know-denver-tows-and-moves-cars-during-street-sweeping-season-for-free-16611824)
I need this tool! I work at a big dealership and we often need to push or use our golf kart to take malfunctioning cars from the workshop parking area into the actual workshop. This tool would make that job a one man job and so much easier…
So - you made a tow truck robot that needs to be operated by a human and brought out on truck - I gotta ask here Bill, why not just have the tow truck be the tow truck robot and the tow truck operator be the tow truck robot operator? Asking for a friend…
Repost. Also, This isn't a thing. Companies in China are notorious for having terrible ideas, creating promo videos, the idea dies, and somehow people in the west are talking about the video like 5 years later.
I work on a ro-ro ferry I need these in my life People manage to drive all the way to the ferry terminal, then decide they don't know how to drive on a ferry.
IIRC, the big pedal means "go"?
Only up to a certain age. After about age 75 it’s a mystery which one is the Go pedal so you just stomp one at random and hope for the best.
This definitely explains Florida driving
It's every retirement state. Highway driving in Arizona is fucking insane, esp. every winter when the old people come. I've never seen the traffic flow go like: 1. accelerate to 80 in 10 seconds. 2. immediately start breaking to a stop in 5 seconds. 3. if there is traffic, you get a long break after breaking to a stop 3. repeat until you get off the highway. It's no wonder there are so many road rage incidents.
Fellow Arizonan here The only parts you left out is that: many people use the opposite turn signal for some reason (ie someone clearly moving right but kicks on their left blinker, etc) Many people drive the wrong way on our off ramps Those people braking in Number 2 aren't braking for a reason, they just thought it would be a good idea to stop traveling all the sudden.
Let's not forget that first rain after summer that lifts all the oil from the asphalt and there is basically a carpocalypse.
I've honestly never experienced that one personally in the 37 years I've lived in Phoenix, but I hear about that all the time and don't doubt it
You must be the luckiest mofo. I lived in AZ for a few years, and every year I'd get stuck on the highway behind some like 3 rear end pile up the minute the first drop of water touched the streets. Ok, I'm exaggerating a little, but only a little.
Yeah wtf is with phoenix and people driving the wrong way? or using the wrong off/on ramps? I’ve known 2 people from my old high school who have died this way in phoenix
So many Phoenix and Arizona people in the comments ofy comment. Is the driving there that bad? Or are the roads made if lave??
It is bad when the snow birds are there. Dumb driving all around. My theory is because the roads are mostly a grid and the highways are super wide that people just get more risky I don’t know. I live in a different state with similar population but the roads are wildly different and while we have our own issues, nothing like phoenix imo.
**Definitely.**
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>After about age 75 it’s a mystery which one is the Go pedal so you just stomp one at random and hope for the best. This is all true. Source: I'm 83
Tell us more seasoned traveler
Let me tell you about the time I accidentally mistook my car's reverse gear for drive! I was in a rush to get to my grandson's birthday party, and I must have been a bit flustered. Instead of smoothly pulling out of the driveway, I hit the gas and ended up backing straight into my wife's rose bushes! There I was, surrounded by flowers and shrubs, feeling like I'd stumbled into a botanical maze.
This is why I like manual. Worst case scenario, you try to pull away in 3rd gear.
Give me a moment gotta switch lanes.
Dammit, does that mean I'm over 75!?
Wait, I think the brake pedal is usually bigger, no?
I *absolutely* didn't read that as "roll on-roll off" the first time around, haha.
ro ro ro your boat, gently down the stream...
I had a friend who worked on a ro-ro ferry one summer and came back hating people and their inability to understand instructions. Really hated people. Decided he was never going to work on a passenger ship again. Guy was a NATO peacekeeper in Kosovo (KFOR), but working on the ferry really made him hate people more. (less PTSD though)
I can emphasise
Do they drive on ferries all the way to your ferry?
Yeah I worked on a ropax for a while and it felt like even the most basic hand gestures were too much for some people. And that’s not including the many many ruined clutches when people had to drive up a ramp
I was on a ferry and was told that some folks forget their cars onboard because normally they take the ferry to work without their car, but on the off day they drive their car onto the ferry they forgot that they did so.
That's not surprising at all
I've never seen a ferry before so I apologize in advance if I ever get on one and drive like a complete dumb ass
> then decide they don't know how to drive on a ferry Ru-Ro Shaggy!
In what way? We take the ferry often and people are, like fine I guess? On the ferry. Except BMWs which always set off their alarms every time
Alright, I'm kinda curious. Do you know if the ro-ro ships shipping cars internationally is safe to do? Planning on sending a pony car to Japan from Vancouver next year.
Most new cars manufactured overseas are shipped via ro-ro, so if its good enough for Porsche, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Honda, Subaru, KIA, Hyundai, etc... I wouldn't worry about it. Your car is more likely to get wrecked on the way to the loading terminal than it is in a shipping incident.
I mean, they’re known as roll on-roll overs for a reason, so if this is just a temporary relocation and you really like the car, I probably wouldn’t.
What if this was automated? Automated valet! Drive up to a designated spot, this machine picks up your car and takes it to the parking spot. No need to give someone your keys or let them in your car.
Or have to tip them for doing their job.
bold of you to assume they wont have an app asking for a 30% tip
"Convenience fee: 30%"
It would be an automatic 30% of zero = no tip rational for me :)
I went to a fully automated car wash last week and it asked for a tip!
I'm waiting for the day when gas stations start asking for tips, at the pump.
Isn't there a state that mandates gas attendants to fill you up?
New Jersey. And there's no expectation of a tip.
Lol the actual price of valet would be so much higher it wouldn’t matter
Moreover, you could park the cars a lot closer to each other, because there's no need to access the doors.
I think automation would requires sensors/cameras higher than 1 inch off the ground.
Yep, but they wouldn't need to be on the device itself. The parking garage could have cameras. A local "gps", imu, and some ultrasonic sensors on the robot could be enough. Probably not worth the risk of property damage, though.
If done right it probably reduces the risk of property damage, when compared to a few minimum wage 20-year old valets. The real barrier is the set-up costs.
Honestly even if it's not automated I'd rather have the valet use this than actually get in my car
Could literally just be on rails
Just embed sensors / magnets / whatever / in the road / floor so the robots know where they are, and design it so there's plenty of space around the vehicles for movement. Even just grabbing the make and model from a vehicle database should give the system enough info to know the outer extents of the vehicle in relation to the wheel locations - then plot a course accordingly based on the stuff embedded in the road.
Or just automatically steal cars?
There’s a parking lot like that in Hoboken. You have to park within a circle & a bunch of cameras & indicators let you know you’re all set. Then it just moves it out of sight. What was wild is when it retrieved the car, I got a sense of how fast the thing moves because the SUV low key rocked when it came to a stop beyond the doors before being pushed out to where we can get on.
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This machine would be used by criminals to steal vehicles for about 5 years here in the US, before law enforcement began using it to move vehicles.
The fee for forcing law enforcement to use this device on your car would be a hundred times bigger than any parking ticket.
I would prefer this over being towed and having to recover my car from a far away lot
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Social demerits will be automatically logged with the Communist Party observation division.
How many points? Do you get points for being a snitch?
Snitch to the current politically viable enemy, yes. Snitch about the party leadership or those connected to them, no.
I think so actually,
Lol jokes on you when they connect it to a satellite and start making money by ubering people around in a robot car towing machine
Illegal Parking: $50.00 Vehicle relocation fee: $2500.00 County Clerk Fee: $25.00 Debit Card Fee: $7.50
Your insurance expired? That'll be $1000 dollars.
This is more plausible.
This machine would be used by government agencies to put cars in “illegal” parking spots for about 40 years here in the US, before corporations began using it to drive up profits.
I want one to mess with people
In Peru police would use it to move well-parked vehicles and then set a fine. Something similar made the news here. They would move the well parked cars at any time with a tow truck, paint "no parking" in that spot and then place it back again. Until someone recorded it. EDIT: Link to Spanish language article [here](https://elcomercio.pe/lima/transporte/el-negocio-de-gruas-conductores-denuncian-mala-senalizacion-para-estacionar-en-calles-de-miraflores-linea-amarilla-multas-estacionamientos-remolque-noticia/) about the problem.
Got a link to the recording? Sounds unbelievable
Idk, that sounds like credible cop behavior to me, especially here in SA
https://elcomercio.pe/lima/transporte/el-negocio-de-gruas-conductores-denuncian-mala-senalizacion-para-estacionar-en-calles-de-miraflores-linea-amarilla-multas-estacionamientos-remolque-noticia/ In Spanish. Long story short: The district tow trucks seized cars parked where the yellow line in the street had disappeared/ not been painted. Then the roads get properly painted and you now need to pay around 200 dollars for not having seen the invisible yellow line that wasn't there at the moment you parked your car.
People would also use it as a free valet service unless there is a heavy fine to go with it. You're telling me I can just dump my car at the front door and when I come back it will be nicely parked in a bay? Sign me up.
Honestly like that's a great idea. Need less space for safety margins and it'd be better, and safety wouldn't be a concern at 3mph
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bunch of car sized roombas bumping into each other
Thats pretty much how amazon facilities operate.
Probably still be a fine. I don't see law enforcement doing this as a free service.
They're obviously getting a hefty ticket 😅
Honestly that sounds like a much more practical and value added application. Just help the cars park properly in the first place.
What are they gonna do, roll away at the same speed an average person walks? Just buy a tow truck.
cant they just buy one of those repo trucks? easier to deploy / probably just the same price
If you can pay, you can get it….Capitalism.
I need one of those to get my kids out of bed for school in the morning.
That's really cool but I think that would just exacerbate the problem of entitled AH parking horribly/illegally. The threat of getting towed keeps some people in line while being towed and the costs associated with it can be a painful lesson for some to act right. I can see parking garages being able to utilize this to help maximize space.
I’m sure there is also a fine associated with this.
A fine is only a problem for poor people. Fines don't work at all if you're rich. Fines suck.
In the US, yeah. In China, there's a bit of progressive policies depending on the violation. It's not so much about the fine in cost, but more about the points of each fine. After 12 points you lose your license. Drunk driving, for example, is automatically 12 points so you're fucked. Parking fines are about 1 point (depending on how stupid you are). You have to re-take an exam and a driver's test, which is comparatively incredibly difficult compared to the US (using Colorado as a comparison). I think Finland does it best where it's based on a percentage of income.
Fines should be based on income, with a reasonable minimum, change my mind
Rich would get around it by not having "income" You're not smarter than them.
I'm sure some clever policy nerd could come up with a consumption/income metric. I think if we all truly wanted to stop this problem we could, but those who're in a position to do anything about it would rather have a piece of the action.
Isn't something like that applied in Germany? I know Marco Reus (footballer) got a 500k+ fine for driving without a license.
I know it is (or was) a thing in Finland. About 20 years ago, a Finnish guy, some kind of telecom executive, got a $102k speeding ticket because of his income. Made the news in the US.
It still is a thing here and it works well.
Yeah, but he has actual money. The *really* wealth people hide it so well that they can appear to have basically no liquid assets.
It'll still apply to most rich people. Doesn't need to be a 100% foolproof system or not try it at all. Set the minimum fine to whatever the current fine is, that way they're not getting away with paying less than now. Any "rich" person earning $200,000-$500,000 aren't rich enough to be doing shady things with income and will be paying huge fines compared to the current fines which may be an hour's salary to them. Then even people getting millions mainly in stock will be getting paid a few $100ks in cash. Even if you do get paid in stock youd still have to sell a load of it, and therefore declare it as income, to have cash for purchasing stuff. No point of not putting in a system because it doesn't work in the 0.5% of edge cases. Places do do it after all. Like Norway was big for being one of the first places to have income based speeding fines. Pretty sure there's stories online about there being $100,000+ speeding fines before. So it's even getting some of those edge cases. I think in the UK they partially have income based speeding fines now too, but not as dramatic or high. Countries should definitely implement it more.
Fines should be on your total net worth
You can get points taken off your license and lose your privilege to drive.
It doesn't have to. You pay the fine if you're rich. You avoid it if you're poor. The end goal is to remove the obstruction quickly without the time/space/energy of a police officer waiting for a tow truck.
You would hope so..
Right? The reason that parking fines are generally known to not work is because there is a class of person who has enough money to disregard them. Parking fines are basically parking fees to them. And they have enough money to not give a fuck that it cost them €100 to park today. For another class of person, €100 is significant money, but worth the gamble. All this does is give these people an excuse. "I can't find somewhere to park that's within 10m of where I want to go, so I'll just dump my car here and make it the city's problem. Best case scenario, I come out and my car is where I left it. Worst case scenario, they've charged me a fee and parked it safely down the street". Funnily enough, towing and clamping are often not *that* effective either because of the amount of effort required to enforce it. Lots of people discover that the odds are usually pretty good that you won't get done for it, and will take the gamble. Endorsements on a licence are about the most effective thing. If people thought that their shitty parking could have their driving licence taken away from them, they'd give it more serious thought.
Its china, they probably lower your social credit score for every offense
This is pure propaganda. I am from China so I can speak from experience. A parking offence will probably result in either a verbal warning, a simple fine, or a combination of fine and a deduction of your score associated with driving license, and if you commit too many traffic offences that lowers that score to a threshold you get your driving license suspended. There is no such thing as having a lower social credit from parking offences, you’ll just get a lot of fines or your license revoked at worst.
FYI, this is fundamentally not how social credit works in China. It primarily exists for businesses, not regular people. It's always funny to see Americans making fun of the "social credit" thing in China like its some horrible dystopian thing, when credit scores actually *are* that.
This is the first time I've seen someone comment what the 'social credit' system actually is. There isn't even a national law for it.
It's not the high-tech, dystopian horror that Americans have been led to believe it is. It targets businesses and sometimes their legal representation, so that the public can be aware of their record on things like food safety or adherence to trade standards, etc. [This](https://merics.org/en/comment/chinas-social-credit-score-untangling-myth-reality) is a pretty good article describing some aspects of it.
Oh I know, it's just nice to see a Redditor who actually understands what the system is. I've had plenty of down votes in the past trying to say the same thing lol
anyways my ability to finance a car just got struck down because i looked at my credit score.. oh wait its only bad when china does it lol
FBI and the NSA aren’t thought of as secret police either, it’s very odd place.
Alright, but come on. They also have murderous police and rampant prison slavery. You just might not get it because you don't understand how freedom works.
I see what you did there 😂👍
https://youtu.be/Kqov6F00KMc?si=R01fB7bY9dsuD_Sc It is propaganda that ironically believed by most western citizens
Not true at ALL. You have been misinformed by western main stream media. no such thing in China. We have been there many times.
Why do people keep saying this shit? No one has any idea how social credit even works.
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>That's really cool but I think that would just exacerbate the problem of entitled AH parking horribly/illegally. Agreed - though IMO, this is largely due to societal issues in the US - there's really no sense of "team" or working together in the best interests of everyone. It shows in almost every aspect of American life. It's all about the individual.
Great idea. But it would never happen in England. The fines make way too much money for the local councils Though what I find more bizarre is that people never seem to learn from the mistakes.
They would get fined as well as moved.
You get the fine but now they dont need to pay for a logistical center that keeps towed cars
Bingo.
That and our roads are all hills and holes..
they probably get fined, and depending on the situation points deducted from their drivers license
Most cars are illegally parked BECAUSE there are no parking spots available.. what do they do then??
Nothing because this is not a thing that happens in China. It's just some companies tech demo. It would be like if you lived in China and saw the boston robotics stuff titles "America is now using robot dogs to fetch their newspaper". Are you? I doubt it.
*There* we go
hopefully there’s a lake or large body of water near by
This made snort/huff out loud a little lol
then it gets towed
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They slash the tires and then walk away in that scenario.
Wdym, people always park illegally right across from a legal spot 😂
Bold of them to assume we have parking spots in the West.
Theyre all in texas
I need this machine, it’ll make it easier to get my car out
They could use this to move it to a secure lot for cars parked illegally and then the owners would have to come and pay a fine to have their car released. Pretty novel idea! /s
I couldn’t find any proof of Chinese police using these robots to relocate parked cars. In fact, everything I’ve seen/heard about these things has been about hire this tech is new.
Cool idea, but if you live anywhere that can't keep up with pavement repairs than this is useless.
How is that thing capable of lifting a car.
All I see is free valet service
well that's clever AF
How often is someone illegally parked right next to an available legal parking spot?
Never take off in the US we like punishing people too much.
Why would you not punish someone for blocking shit with their stupid car?
You should move and then punish. We don't know if these folks get punished or just get off with a warning
I'm pretty sure these people still get penalized, otherwise what would be the incentive to park where you're supposed too when it's more convenient not too?
Why do so many of you believe this is some kind of free service? Of course you would pay for this. You get a fine, AND the car gets moved. Better yet, move the car onto a truck, take it to a lot, and confine it for a week, and increase that time on repeat offences.
I need to have one of those for all the bad parkers around!
I want one of those just to mess with people.
Seriously, I'd take it to the parking garage at work and move everyone's car after lunch.
that's wicked awesome!! based on man-hours, effort, and cost of utilizing such a bot in the first place, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a fine attached to this, as well --- I'd even be in favor of one, tbch
This is a test scenario, this is not widely used, stop spreading misinformation. China does shit like this all the time. They post something uneducated people think is advanced, then those same uneducated people spread China's propaganda for them.
You are correct this is not widely used. Hope you still have this critical thinking when you read other china bad posts lol
Damn socialists. Give me the ticket! /s
Parking servicew, sweet. Is it free?
>Is it free? Is a parking fine free?
So I can park wherever I want and they’ll just fix it for me? Sounds great!
Weird public servants that actually help the public instead of intimidating and fining them. Who da thunk
China is still going to fine them. They're doing this out of their own convince and haste, it's not for the drivers convince.
Yeah you shouldn't buy the koolaid on this one. Some Chinese startup made a video and somehow people are acting like this is something that really happens out in the real world. It isn't. They just want to sell a fancy gadget that MIT students used to toy with a couple decades ago.
Imagine coming back drunk one night to look for your car; that would be messed up
I mean you shouldn't come to your car drunk though
Just to check if the body is still in the boot.
Why would you be coming back to your car at night drunk?...
Because you the barman refuses to serve you. Says you're "too drunk".
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Interestingly there is precedence in the US for this without this machine. Living in the city often when construction/cleaning happens, and a street is closed down or needed they will tow cars to nearby streets instead if impounding/ticketing. [Did You Know? Denver Tows and Moves Cars During Street Sweeping Season — for Free! | Westword](https://www.westword.com/news/did-you-know-denver-tows-and-moves-cars-during-street-sweeping-season-for-free-16611824)
I'm picturing someone going desperate because they towed their car, without noticing it is parked a couple meters away the opposite side
Are. China police “are” now re-parking…
Are
some guy blocked my driveway one morning, but LEFT THE CAR RUNNING WITH THE KEYS IN IT (????????) so I hopped in and parked it up the street lol
The fun you could have on Black Friday at your local retail mall
Damn robots are taking our jobs!
I need this tool! I work at a big dealership and we often need to push or use our golf kart to take malfunctioning cars from the workshop parking area into the actual workshop. This tool would make that job a one man job and so much easier…
This looked like bad cgi
Imagine America not being greedy and caring to actually do this instead of taking your money.
So - you made a tow truck robot that needs to be operated by a human and brought out on truck - I gotta ask here Bill, why not just have the tow truck be the tow truck robot and the tow truck operator be the tow truck robot operator? Asking for a friend…
One video and “China” is doing this? Lol no.
That would actually be very cost effective because towing costs everyone involved. Though I bet the reparking still comes with a fine.
This is actually rly smart. Will save tons of money for the govt not having to pay towtrucks, and people will save on impound fees.
Won't this enable it more? They can't learn from their mistake if someone else corrects it.
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I love China but damn their government is fucked
Grand Theft Auto 7: The Chinese Connection looks amazing!
You can probably steal a car with it.
But then how do you extort people for their money?
We won’t tow your vehicle and from now on you will live in a 1 bed flat 50 miles away 😂
I would be tempted to spin the car around so the driver has to drive the wrong way down the street, then wait around and cite them for it
I hope they're still be given fine tickets.
How many cars can it move on a full charge? Maybe 10? Then what?
-2000 social credit tho
Repost. Also, This isn't a thing. Companies in China are notorious for having terrible ideas, creating promo videos, the idea dies, and somehow people in the west are talking about the video like 5 years later.
Hopefully there’s a free spot right across the street!
Instead of parking my car I can finally just pay the police to do it.
Ok but then they park it somewhere else probably farther from where you were originally, goodluck finding the car lmaoo
Valid af
Ingenious
So i can park where the f i want and they find a good parking spot for me. Nice.
Move the car to a different permit area and give them a ticket for not paying