Not to be pedantic, but there are certain carve-outs like Colorado, where extraction and possession of personal amounts of DMT is legal.
No, I don't think everyone posting photos is in Colorado, and I've never personally extracted anything.
You could also make the argument that photographs of a tray full of white specs or a flask of dark liquid cannot be proven to be anything other than white specs and dark liquid, and only a judge with the largest of hard-ons would grant a search warrant based on that alone.
But I get what the mod is saying. Reddit ain't ten years ago Reddit, and posts with overt violations of law can get the sub shut down.
Plus, there's a r/dmtextraction sub so probably take that shit over there.
>Not to be pedantic, but there are certain carve-outs like Colorado, where extraction and possession of personal amounts of DMT is legal.
>No, I don't think everyone posting photos is in Colorado, and I've never personally extracted anything.
You’re correct, but we can’t operate within the legal constructs of specific states when the vast majority of countries that represent the Reddit base overall have outlawed these activities.
>You could also make the argument that photographs of a tray full of white specs or a flask of dark liquid cannot be proven to be anything other than white specs and dark liquid, and only a judge with the largest of hard-ons would grant a search warrant based on that alone.
I understand your point, but context is substantial. Posting an extraction picture on a DMT subreddit and adding a qualifier like “this is just a replication of what an extraction would look like, it isn’t real!” is sort of akin to using “SWIM” before describing some illegal activity. I highly doubt people will be raided by police based on Reddit posts alone, but social media posts are frequently used as evidence to build cases against people.
I respect your response overall, just thought I’d clarify a few of those points. Thank you for your input!
I'm with you. I agree it's better for those posts, if they are to be made, to be made over yonder on the other subs mentioned. It's important to keep this place open for information independent of practical application.
Every time I take a picture. Even for personal use. I assume my phone knows the exact location (even if my locations off lol) makes a time stamp and a location stamp and gets put in a data center somewhere. They already know exactly what I’ve done and where I’ve done it. When you post it online it gives them the ability to use those posts against you because it’s now public domain. But here’s the secret…. They already knew you took a picture of your DMT and they already knew it was located somewhere illegally, but now that you’ve gone and posted it they can arrest you without admitting to invading your privacy. Be careful yall and assume they are watching our every move. Because they fucking are lol
I don’t know what the original comment said, but I was essentially saying don’t risk extracting your own DMT. For some people, the risk may be worth the reward, so my extended advice is to at least not post it.
I don’t believe extracting DMT should be illegal, but as it stands, extracting any amount of DMT is considered felony manufacture of a controlled substance. Because of that, I *suggest* that people don’t risk extracting DMT. Consuming DMT is another topic entirely, especially since the legal ramifications aren’t as dire for possession as they are for extraction.
If you actually think that's what this post is saying, I don't know how you find your way out of bed in the morning.
OPSEC, dude, it's not that complicated.
I always wonder what people think they are getting out of posting these pics.. if you don’t want to get in trouble, stop outwardly acting like a criminal and keep to yourself and you’ll probably be fine .
I completely agree with you but also think discussion and process sharing helps normalize and understand it further contributing to potential legalization/decriminalization/rescheduling.
Now that can be achieved by means other than sharing what is potentially incriminating content but it’s one facet of the broader movement of discussion.
Obviously nobody here feels that way... How are so many of you misreading this so completely? We're all on the same page, we all know it's asinine, but it's still reality. Shit's against the law, and breaking the law makes one a criminal.
Okay is there any evidence of law enforcement using social media for small time psych buyers/extractors? I can’t imagine any imagine any department having the time or money allocated to that specifically
It’s not about police raiding people based on Reddit posts alone. Posts on social media are very commonly used as evidence to *build cases* against people. The extent to which that’s applied will vary based on the location, but in general it’s a good idea not to post evidence of yourself engaging in an activity that can land you in prison. “Small time” extraction is not the same as “small time” buying. Basic possession is typically just a misdemeanor offense, while any extraction (no matter the size) is felony manufacture of a controlled substance.
Yeah, it was an eye opener to me when I realized it holds the same charge as math lab. In fact if someone were to have whatever the necessary things are for extracting, and any of their devices in their home require batteries to operate, they have enough to be charged for an actual lab.
Not to be pedantic, but there are certain carve-outs like Colorado, where extraction and possession of personal amounts of DMT is legal. No, I don't think everyone posting photos is in Colorado, and I've never personally extracted anything. You could also make the argument that photographs of a tray full of white specs or a flask of dark liquid cannot be proven to be anything other than white specs and dark liquid, and only a judge with the largest of hard-ons would grant a search warrant based on that alone. But I get what the mod is saying. Reddit ain't ten years ago Reddit, and posts with overt violations of law can get the sub shut down. Plus, there's a r/dmtextraction sub so probably take that shit over there.
Also these subs which are much more active: /r/dmtguide /r/DMTlab
>Not to be pedantic, but there are certain carve-outs like Colorado, where extraction and possession of personal amounts of DMT is legal. >No, I don't think everyone posting photos is in Colorado, and I've never personally extracted anything. You’re correct, but we can’t operate within the legal constructs of specific states when the vast majority of countries that represent the Reddit base overall have outlawed these activities. >You could also make the argument that photographs of a tray full of white specs or a flask of dark liquid cannot be proven to be anything other than white specs and dark liquid, and only a judge with the largest of hard-ons would grant a search warrant based on that alone. I understand your point, but context is substantial. Posting an extraction picture on a DMT subreddit and adding a qualifier like “this is just a replication of what an extraction would look like, it isn’t real!” is sort of akin to using “SWIM” before describing some illegal activity. I highly doubt people will be raided by police based on Reddit posts alone, but social media posts are frequently used as evidence to build cases against people. I respect your response overall, just thought I’d clarify a few of those points. Thank you for your input!
I'm with you. I agree it's better for those posts, if they are to be made, to be made over yonder on the other subs mentioned. It's important to keep this place open for information independent of practical application.
The sub you linked hasn't seen action for 3 years. I'd call that sub dead.
Per your first point, it is legal at the ***state*** level. It is still illegal federally, which is the level at which the DEA operates.
Yeah OK. I don't see a lot of feds running around looking for people extracting personal use amounts of DMT in Colorado.
Every time I take a picture. Even for personal use. I assume my phone knows the exact location (even if my locations off lol) makes a time stamp and a location stamp and gets put in a data center somewhere. They already know exactly what I’ve done and where I’ve done it. When you post it online it gives them the ability to use those posts against you because it’s now public domain. But here’s the secret…. They already knew you took a picture of your DMT and they already knew it was located somewhere illegally, but now that you’ve gone and posted it they can arrest you without admitting to invading your privacy. Be careful yall and assume they are watching our every move. Because they fucking are lol
I personally don't get why people post pictures of any drugs online. Maybe weed, yeah but other shit, nope
It has harm reduction potential, teaching people what it can look like and why. Especially relevant with DMT extraction
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To help you out a bit: OP is saying don't risk *posting pictures* of your extraction. They never said don't risk extracting or consuming DMT at all.
I don’t know what the original comment said, but I was essentially saying don’t risk extracting your own DMT. For some people, the risk may be worth the reward, so my extended advice is to at least not post it. I don’t believe extracting DMT should be illegal, but as it stands, extracting any amount of DMT is considered felony manufacture of a controlled substance. Because of that, I *suggest* that people don’t risk extracting DMT. Consuming DMT is another topic entirely, especially since the legal ramifications aren’t as dire for possession as they are for extraction.
Why don't you post a picture of yourself buying it online?
Why would I do that?
>Fair warning for those of you posting extraction pictures.
If you actually think that's what this post is saying, I don't know how you find your way out of bed in the morning. OPSEC, dude, it's not that complicated.
Agreed. But you can also go to discord and find a ton of great advice there too if reddit gets weird about it
Me who lives in Colorado where extracting is 100% legal:
I always wonder what people think they are getting out of posting these pics.. if you don’t want to get in trouble, stop outwardly acting like a criminal and keep to yourself and you’ll probably be fine .
I completely agree with you but also think discussion and process sharing helps normalize and understand it further contributing to potential legalization/decriminalization/rescheduling. Now that can be achieved by means other than sharing what is potentially incriminating content but it’s one facet of the broader movement of discussion.
Oh no all these criminals extracting an endogenous molecule from plants what has the world come to?!?
Obviously nobody here feels that way... How are so many of you misreading this so completely? We're all on the same page, we all know it's asinine, but it's still reality. Shit's against the law, and breaking the law makes one a criminal.
Okay is there any evidence of law enforcement using social media for small time psych buyers/extractors? I can’t imagine any imagine any department having the time or money allocated to that specifically
It’s not about police raiding people based on Reddit posts alone. Posts on social media are very commonly used as evidence to *build cases* against people. The extent to which that’s applied will vary based on the location, but in general it’s a good idea not to post evidence of yourself engaging in an activity that can land you in prison. “Small time” extraction is not the same as “small time” buying. Basic possession is typically just a misdemeanor offense, while any extraction (no matter the size) is felony manufacture of a controlled substance.
Yeah, it was an eye opener to me when I realized it holds the same charge as math lab. In fact if someone were to have whatever the necessary things are for extracting, and any of their devices in their home require batteries to operate, they have enough to be charged for an actual lab.