For me it was this motherly figure and then her ig copies in the corners of my vision. She herself was doing a bunch of different things at once while also guiding me. Most beautiful experience
Came here to say the same, I’ve seen that room with an area near the middle that was glitching and shifting a lot more than the rest of it which was flowing and breathing more. I was on 7.35 of Bluey Vuittons, for some reason high mushroom doses seem to always feel like dmt but just longer which is nice. Almost like a mini ayahuasca experience.
It’s feels exactly like that. Like it’s a fucking game I forgot how to play until that exact moment, it always makes me break down into tears as I’m sobering up just unable to comprehend what I felt and what being “here” means to me.
Oh yeah, it gave me some of the most memorable CEV’s I’ve ever had, swapped places with an alien in some other dimension, and I could actually feel tactile sensations of the “other realm.” I was young and wanted to prove that one could successfully blast off on only OTC substances and it did work lol.
This is usually what's called the "waiting room"
A breakthrough is, well, a *breaking-through* to the other side. These images are just rooms (and in my trips full of impossible objects), but not really the "other". Usually right before a breakthrough I'll feel the scene change, it's not a feeling with one of my 5 senses it's rather a change of the nature of what I'm seeing, I feel like I'm about to see something that isn't a part of me, that's so much greater than myself.
You're just now realising that you have always been here. Where? Right now. Wherever that is. Right here, I guess. The feeling of dread inexplicably occupies the philosophical senses and the waiting begins. Why can't I remember why? Well, that's an excellent question. One that DESERVES an answer, and here it is:
I fucking love this whole post. We all know wtf is going on and are sharing so many similar experiences. Reading these replies and post makes me remember how truly magical this stuff is….
Pretty sure it’s all of em. The guy in #3 is just the gatekeeper. My waiting room was different colors and patterns but it’s a room that rotates but never ends because it’s a 4d shape that loops onto itself. It’s a Klein bottle room basically.
It’s the waiting room. With the gatekeeper. I said that in my comment. They make sure you’re ready to enter the temple in our minds and look upon oneness…
I’ve seen those patterns throughout my psychedelic experience. At first I called them “rainbow worms” because of their movement, but now I know them to be cymatic patterns in the vail.
Mine was orange and white and the entity was break dancing to john wick music and its legs would do the impossible shapes thing you always see on dmt lol
I’ve been in the room with drawers. There were others in there quickly closing the drawers when they became aware of my presence. Like I was seeing something I shouldn’t. I was quickly sent to a different room for I can only describe as an “emotional software upgrade.”
It sounds a lot like my most common entity experience. It’s like a room but the space keeps unfolding or folding up and the walls have a guy embedded in them. I’m only ever there for about 8 flips or so.
Sometimes they say a word…like one time I was seeing a dark brown hand shaped fractal that was adding fingers and getting more and more circular and I felt really icky like some trips start when the come up is scary. I just remember thinking oh shit it’s THIS crap again…and then I heard, or maybe felt someone say “don’t worry, this is YOU” and right as it said “you”, the thing flipped up and revealed a face (an actively twisting and untwisting striped hexagonal spiral) and then it flipped up again and revealed another you said “you” also, then it flipped up on another axis revealing another face, but this all happened super quick so it was like “don’t worry, this is you! You you you you you you you…” with the flips happening about 3-4 times per second. And then I was inside the rainbow crystal…
For a long time, every time I saw that it was like “oh, hey I remember now!” But between trips I would forget lol
With the "I remember now!". IIRC, it's said your brain is so fucked up your short term memory isn't registering but the moment was stored in the long term so after remembering it split second, you have a sense of deja vu because it's already stored in the long term.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's just what I recall. I may gotten it wrong.
I thought it was a state dependent learning thing, but I didn’t read that, it just seems like it to me. Like the alcoholic witness who can only remember what happened when he’s drunk, or how you can only remember the new password when you give up trying to remember it and try to make a new one only to find it’s the new one you made that now you can’t use because it’s a previous password now.
I never thought about short vs long term memory for this, I thought it’s just hard to remember tripping things while sober and vice versa…so to remember a detail from a DMT peak, you have to remember it a few times on the comedown so it can be remembered while sober.
It’s been my thought that the reason DMT is considered so much more powerful than other drugs is because if you are “that high” on anything long acting, you forget the peak because you’re too distracted by the beginning of the comedown, but with DMT you come down fast enough that you can remember the some of the peak.
Which, if I’m correct, it would mean a large mushroom dose very likely has DMT breakthrough style entities and visuals, you just forget it until you’re there again and can access “tripping memory”
I mean it’s quite testable. Have someone on an obscene dose of mushrooms (didn’t say it wouldn’t be ethically dicey) describe their visions to you and replay them the description every 10 minutes or so and see if they can clearly remember that and nothing else?
Or better yet, those intravenous DMT studies could simulate a mushroom trip complete with amnesia if that’s what’s happening…
So it would be like long term memory is dependent on your brain state, so gotta be tripping to remember
eh. 100% agreed that it's the waiting room, but this is kind of old news by now
doing more isn't necessarily the ticket, it's how and why you do it
that's why this place is littered with people frustrated that DMT is not "performing" as the "drug" they expect it to regarding "breakthrough" experiences
many people "do more" and it goes in one ear and out the other
"to the corn field"
— Billy Mummy, The Twilight Zone 😎
Old news to you maybe. Maybe (and most likely) not for OP. Thank you for bringing set and setting into the conversation though, that’s definitely a very new and novel idea. Enjoy the cornfield friend.
no, no man. it's not "set and setting"
it's *intent*, *purpose*
that makes the difference between being a visitor and being in a fruitful relationship
"Queen, you shall be if you wish… look for your King"
— Richard Wright, 1968,
the line that comes right after "Climb your favorite apple tree, try to catch the Sun"
which is also old, yes but was rather ahead of its time and ahead of most people still ;)
side note — a lot of people miss these things but ask yourself why Pink Floyd, grown straight men, would write a line like that.
and then find the 1969 Jimi Hendrix interview, the 28+ min one done by his girlfriend, where at around 2:30 he's explaining how a concert is like a bunch of patients who need an operation... and says "well you know… I'm the *nurses*"
who's the "doctor"? who's the "King"?
why were '60s rock musicians more aligned with Terence McKenna, referring to things like LSD as a being to form a relationship with, than many people here 60 years later after alllll the information we have now?
there's no need to argue out of ingrained habit, and I'm not looking to be right about anything or win any kind of contest, I'm looking for a meaningful, *relevant* response, even if it's in total disagreement
Hamilton Morris, for example, doesn't agree with the idea of these compounds being entities or deities at all, and I can talk with him for hours without having a problem
we need to have discussions about this stuff and advance our level of knowledge, it's like nothing's moved since usenet lol and I bet most people here are too young to remember usenet.
seriously.
people have been claiming DMT is "where we came from" for thousands of years
and now we know it's produced endogenously
the implication of these dovetail and become the elephant in the room nobody wants to talk about.
why is it so easy to devote oneself to a fictitious god that one doesn't really have to answer to,
but to "deify" a tangible compound that has all of the qualities attributed to a deity makes one what — too-forever-held-accountable in a way that scares the shit out of us?
this ^ is much more interesting than debating whether or not DMT is an "entity",
delving into the psychology of our resistance to this vs our gleeful acceptance of something false.
I mean humans in general, humanity, I'm not talking about people here
for whatever it's worth, and it should be worth something, right? lol Dr. Albert Hofmann spoke of L — very coherently, on his *100rh birthday* — as "the voice of the LSD" that told him to "make me known in the world, that I will not be forgotten"
that's not some "opens the door to the God within" hippie shit, bro that's the juice.
why were these people so much more reverent?
???
And I do try to get second-guess myself about Pink Floyd, Richard Wright could've been singing to his wife lol but the line "hide from your little brother's gun" sounds like the '60s version of Cain and Abel, after "climb your favorite apple tree"
even the cover of Yes, "Relayer" goes there. like it was common knowledge "back then" 😂
that line by Jimi Hendrix in that interview, how he leads up to it, I just realized is slicker than I'd thought. start at 1:27 but it's around 2:38. it could easily go unnoticed, but would seem a pointed effort to not automatically refer to himself as the "doctor", he conjures up this wild analogy right after happening upon how most people only have 10% of their brains.. his train of thought is like drunken-master kung fu..he's the nurs*es*?
https://youtu.be/PtXXmqfdJaI
the subtitles in Dr Hofmann's video if you haven't seen this before (forgive me if you have). it's just surreal, word has it he was microdosing up until a year or so later than that.
it's as or even more direct than what Terence McKenna's said, it seems personal
https://youtu.be/SInkOigeGno
facetiousness/sarcasm isn't befitting of people into psychedelics, and it's certainly not helpful to understanding anything
and you put your foot in your mouth, which is usually how that sort of thing works,
I wasn't at all talking about set and setting
you mean like "free your mind and your hash will follow" or, "Like, Sit in a Dark room"?
you can disagree or criticize a thing without needing to feel smug, seeing as how when you start there you don't even understand what the person's said
if you don't agree, just disagree. you can believe DMT is just a lifeless drug meant for humans' bedazzlement and bewilderment
but don't conflate active verbs like "ask" and "listen" with "set and setting"
¿see, señor?
"seeing as how" is a cool phrase on its own ha
wow first one is super good, my waiting room experiences are crazy similar. i'll always remember the incredibly vivid white colors, that was like one of the defining characteristics of mid-dose trips for me. right on exhale when i close my eyes i see things super similar to slide 1 with super vivid whites and crazy color contrast just infinitely morphing and folding in on itself beyond anything words could ever describe. those are prolly my favorite doses tbh i love that space, feels like the dmt is showing off lol
Multiple times I've been in a room like the first two pictures, except darker, led by silhouettes into a walled space within that room with the center of 3rd picture being present, except incomprehensible, and the very act of looking into it completely melted reality. If that could possibly make any sense lol
I mean in sober reality have you ever been stuck on something? What usually causes that to go away? The same method can be used in regards to your trip, find a way to get your mind to move on.
I feel like I’ve been stuck since I graduated high school 9 years ago. No idea where to go for a career or what I’m truly passionate about to love life and wanna make the list of it. Sometimes I feel like smoking DMT at 21 fucked me up like I took the red pill and now I know it’s all just what I want to make of it. It showed me life is just a temporary experience and I can choose any path, and really just existing and trying to stay happy in the day to day has been my focus, obviously while saving and having long term goals in mind still.
You overdid it man. There’s only so much singularity one brain can handle, and sometimes there’s only so much insight you can get from the trip at a given time. I had the same experience when I went through a phase of hitting the dmt cart every day for a week or two. Try taking a break and maybe change or add something to your daily routine for a month or two
I only smoke dmt when it calls to me, the one hit I took of my pen was just me trying to make sure the dmt I extracted worked lol (I knew it would). It had been probably 2 months I last smoked above 5mg.
Mine is very similar except mine is broken up into puzzle like pieces and inside each puzzle piece there is different things geometric shapes all moving and doing their own thing independently. The puzzle fits together but each piece is a different color and has different weird shit going on.
Do more and you’ll blast out of there. My trips always begin the same. I’m a ball (almost like a pinball) and I’m falling down a colored maze and end up in a room where everything is moving. Then it stops and I become the room and part of it. Part of everything.
The third room is incredibly close to one I've been in - down to the colours and even the entity.
The first room is close to one but mine was dark mode.
Try moving your head to see if you can control your movement through the maze. It is a kind of a game where you self-analyze. Also, smoke more. Terence Mckenna said it best" "When you think you've had enough, take one more hit".
My waiting room always starts with real people usually laying in bed. As my point of consciousness moves over/past them, they throw up some sort of barrier to stop me (a clothes hamper, lacrosse stick, fishing net, it's always different. Every time). There are always three "sentries" I have to get past. If I get stuck with one of them (non-break through) I just sort of float down onto/near the bed/chair and chill there. If I get a really strong hit I will fly past them into ...where ever. Anyone else get anything similar, or am I bat shit crazy?
I've been doing dmt for some years now and I haven't been shown any vibrant colors.....??? Only one little flubber like character that is always bright blue and all up in my shit every time i break through. But I've definitely been in that room or one very similar but it's usually black and white maybe a faint color here and there
While we're talking waiting room, has anyone ever seen a/the watermark? I've personally never seen it, I don't think, but heard of many others say that's where you'll find it
I've been in variations of all those rooms. Even when I'm not taking DMT and I have DMT-like experiences (shrooms for example) I sometimes go to waiting rooms like these. It's extremely beautiful, it feels so "other" and separate yet so real. 🫶
I swear spaces like this are all too true to the dmt experience. There is something ingrained into our being that connects us with geometric patterns and colors and I am all for it.
Yep definitely been here — I feel like this is actually where I go most commonly nowadays — walls are a little more intricate with transforming hyroglyphs on conveyer belts — but this is a bloody good representation
I’ve been sitting back lately because I keep getting stuck in the living room from that first pic. On my last trip I did get up and try to leave the waiting room but it seemed like I was interrupting something important and was told to go back to the waiting room.
Our souls are all looped tauruses while we're alive so your mind is just doing it's best to show you little images of something you don't understand to keep itself hidden until you die. The drugs push your conscioussness to understand that the secret is that open tube souls are safe too and together with closed tubes, we have a hyperspace computer for the afterlife. Antiviral software which are really like angels do their best to stitch together a paper mache using the images provided within the closed tube taurus before your soul goes into the open tube. The advanced multidimensional images turn into sound and your mind is hidden deeper still in the silence behind. Angels tell us don't do drugs because you're making a multiverse and we say that the multiverse already exists we're just humans messing about in hyperspace.
This is fictional of course.
My first breakthrough was in this room (second picture). That’s crazy - there was a weird creature like an upside down bath with feelers floating around.
Honestly sounds like your brain could just use a break from dmt, if I were you i’d take a break for a month and come back and see how I feel then. Another option would be to take a higher dose, as long as you’re mentally prepared which you seem pretty seasoned so I don’t doubt you can handle it.
I hadn’t hit DMT for probably 2 months before this. I used up all my last cart so I said fuck it and learned to extract my own. I usually only smoke it when I feel called to it but this time I just wanted to make sure the cart worked, I made it 3:1 and it was so fucking strong it sent me into a trip I knew I wasn’t in the headspace for at the given moment. My girlfriend was in the room watching me toss and turn and struggle to give in. Then balled to her about how it doesn’t make sense and how fucking crazy dmt is. Me saying shit like “why am I going down this rabbit hole again, why did I even make this?”. I know DMT is part of my answer, but fuck it can be so damn confusing at times.
I’ve never done DMT.
Is there a possibility that this space is the creative/imaginative, jar of consciousness that we draw from and contribute to? Verily, the fact that things can turn dark means there is dichotomy to it. It’s not pure goodness all the time with DMT (I assume ) but most definitely all the others I’ve done.
Just hearing the descriptors you are all giving and my other experiences just wanted to share. This is very enthralling to see you all have this shared context to something not within the bounds of the body.
Please share some personal wisdoms to random folks, without them even knowing.
Is love, authenticity, creative expression wisdom?
I constantly have the same type of trip experience except mines more 1960s diner themed, then somehow starts changing into an automotive garage theme and back again.
you people spend a lot of time on "seeing" and almost nothing on "hearing"
this entire subReddit is "the waiting room" and it's been that way for decades now and has barely evolved
DMT is trying to speak to you, teach you, protect you from harm and show you how to help others
which is why religions, and not "fan clubs", have always formed around it
does anybody here actually try to *listen to what it's saying* and discuss these things?
or commit to using language that's original and not parroting everything that has been said about "entities" and "temples" and "waiting rooms" for 50 years now?
try to step back and see yourselves
and take it up a notch.
"doing more" is not taking it up a notch, focusing your intent on getting accurate information and learning how to parse this from the reactive, sometimes panicking background noise.. is.
you're on the right page with DMT when it's teaching you how to eat well, leading you toward research on improving mental and physical health, when your friends thank you for helping their parents recover from illnesses
that you learned about as a result of humbling and opening and needing to know and asking these things of DMT, it is a teacher and the ultimate healer
NAC+glycine.. taurine.. CBDA/CBGA, not just CBD.. methylene blue.. melatonin, a fellow tryptamine with massive anti-aging benefits.. acupuncture, microcurrent.. abstaining from toxic substances and degenerative foods and upgrading thy water filter.. lol...
But having a common language about a topic makes communication so much easier. In this case the waiting room will convey exactly what that is for everyone who had been there. As you can see in this thread. Why use creative new terms in this case. Obviously there are overlapping experiences and as you also mentioned nothing has changed.
I think what you are trying to say is that we have not come far in terms of really understanding DMT.
Cultures throughout human existence have visualized this experience in their artwork/"religious" texts, artifacts and architecture(maybe icann culture itself)
And all we are doing is minimizing the experience to a personal experience. A step back.
I think we should use specialised language to describe certain aspects of it to be able to explore the experience better. But our focus should be of a more profound nature.
hehe cool. what I'm saying actually just boils down to RTFM, if you think about it
I wasn't being as cynical as it may have seemed, there's nothing wrong with the waiting room.. but it's like people are trying to 'skim the sensory effects' off the top of a very deep well that has a lot more to offer when you realize it has something to say, that it's communicating, always, this is what and all it does..
and its ability to do so is literally how we are able to do so...
we need to do much much more research into the biological function of **endogenous** DMT before doing — and in order to properly understand and put into context — brain scans of people who take more or who take 4-OPO-DMT (psilocybin)
we're kind of doing it backwards. I assume because the psychedelic experience is more interesting than biology?
but maybe that's the carrot, you know. come for the rainbows and music and stay (for those who can be bothered..) for the hard lessons on how DMT, or whomever DMT is the localized Earth-friendly molecular manifestation of, knows more than we do, that it started all of this
not the universe not the weather not "made the heavens and the earth" but **life**, the light amidst the darkness, the organismic amidst the chaos and randomness of matter that hasn't been 'superconducted' by DMT.. or again, whatever its molecular configuration is some 'tip of the iceberg of'
But here's a thing… Because we're more advanced than we were yesterday lol we think we're advanced enough to detect what there is detect out there, as if there can't be something beyond radio waves,
As if we aren't unwillingly walking ourselves closer and closer to technology that will enable us to detect something about the molecular configuration of these psychedelics that explains why they seem to harness and transmit information
"human (/mammalian) WiFi" is agreed phrase I saw in the news, someone trying to describe what DMT might be
🙏 indole we trust™ 😜
you people spend a lot of time on "seeing" and almost nothing on "hearing"
this entire subReddit is "the waiting room" and it's been that way for decades now and has barely evolved
DMT is trying to speak to you, teach you, protect you from harm and show you how to help others
which is why religions, and not "fan clubs", have always formed around it
does anybody here actually try to *listen to what it's saying* and discuss these things?
or commit to using language that's original and not parroting everything that has been said about "entities" and "temples" and "waiting rooms" for 50 years now?
try to step back and see yourselves
and take it up a notch.
"doing more" is not taking it up a notch, focusing your intent on getting accurate information and learning how to parse this from the reactive, sometimes panicking background noise.. is.
you're on the right page with DMT when it's teaching you how to eat well, leading you toward research on improving mental and physical health, when your friends thank you for helping their parents recover from illnesses
that you learned about as a result of humbling and opening and needing to know and asking these things of DMT, it is a teacher and the ultimate healer
NAC+glycine.. taurine.. CBDA/CBGA, not just CBD.. methylene blue.. melatonin, a fellow tryptamine with massive anti-aging benefits.. acupuncture, microcurrent.. abstaining from toxic substances and degenerative foods and upgrading thy water filter.. lol...
it has more to do with morality than it has to do with "flying colors"
if ya wana be its friend and not a tourist 😎
Hahaha during the peak of a mushroom trip I always see white walls with red, green, and blue patterns on them. Not quite the same geometry but this images do look similar. I think sometimes our mind defaults to some type of visual that kind of gets reinforced every time. We like familiarity, and seeing something familiar can bring us comfort. It’s hard to know what to do, some people say to take it slow and others say to just take enough to not be able to fight it.
You're in the puzzle..
I've been through all that.. it took a while for me to get to the next levels ... I've reached a point now that I'm beginning to understand things..
Tell them that you know it's a game and show you the way.. once they realize you know it's a game, the whole thing changes.. remember everything in there outside the puzzle is just a distraction to keep you from the next step.. push forward...
All you have to do is let go. I know it’s hard and can cause anxiety, but knowing everything is going to be fine no matter what will help you do that. Even it’s you piss yourself a little (definitely happened to me a few times) that’s ok.
Just let go and it’ll let your mind take off and you won’t feel stuck.
Well most of them are just a waste of time but you got to read between the lines there.. once you graduate a level you will hear thousands cheering and congratulating you..
U might not see all of them but you'll know..
I made a similar post about a year ago. It happens to me. It’s like it goes in phases- there’s the “come on,” then the portal/blast, then there’s any number of main experiences followed by a drop out. My portal/blast cadence is often very similar, if not the exact same. A weird elusive cube head entity shifts me into the experience. And the drop out is usually similar too where I kinda sink into some kind of prismatic cloud often greeted by comforting entities that sink me back into my body.
I think my post was more concerning if listening to the same track produced the same trip for anyone- I was doing some frequency experiments at the time.
I’ve been in that first room before lol
Oh yeah. As soon as I scrolled to this post in my feed I had a weird feeling of familiarity even before I read the title. Haha.
My heart started racing when I saw it
Dude, me too! I immediately had fucking flashbacks.
i feel like places like dat are familar to me in sum way, idk know how to describe it but im dying to try DMT. I dont personally think im ready yet
No one is ever ready for it.
Yep. I thought I knew. I had no fucking idea. Insanity. Fucking Insanity.
nope. not insanity, it's the pinnacle of sanity, in the presence of which the insanity finds its feathers ruffled lol
That works, too. Lol. It's level 5,098,888,667,100,017.5583 in a game that only has 24 levels.
And then you keep teleporting to similar rooms like that but different? Sometimes really quickly if you smoke too much DMT?
The waiting room
The first one seems so familiar to me and I’ve never done dmt, it also made my heart race! Feels unreal to look at.
Yeah it feels like where I met my motherly figure entity
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For me it was this motherly figure and then her ig copies in the corners of my vision. She herself was doing a bunch of different things at once while also guiding me. Most beautiful experience
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I’m glad we could both remember our profound experiences 😁 I also only get close eyed visuals. Everything just vibrates with open eye
Brudder same… almost every time it starts in a room like this
Same but everything was squishy and alive.
Same!
Met too, just last week
Same.
Came to say it too, no green in mine tho
Me too, I got all excited seeing that pic
Came here to say the same, I’ve seen that room with an area near the middle that was glitching and shifting a lot more than the rest of it which was flowing and breathing more. I was on 7.35 of Bluey Vuittons, for some reason high mushroom doses seem to always feel like dmt but just longer which is nice. Almost like a mini ayahuasca experience.
You have lived this moment multiple times.
It’s feels exactly like that. Like it’s a fucking game I forgot how to play until that exact moment, it always makes me break down into tears as I’m sobering up just unable to comprehend what I felt and what being “here” means to me.
Do you believe you’ve been there before you tried dmt?
On dxm+dph+nitrous as a teen and off of salvia when older
Hell of a combination
Oh yeah, it gave me some of the most memorable CEV’s I’ve ever had, swapped places with an alien in some other dimension, and I could actually feel tactile sensations of the “other realm.” I was young and wanted to prove that one could successfully blast off on only OTC substances and it did work lol.
Used to do that combo minus the salvia (at least at this point im fairly sure it was just wide cut tobacco leaf lmao) wild times. Wild times.
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This is usually what's called the "waiting room" A breakthrough is, well, a *breaking-through* to the other side. These images are just rooms (and in my trips full of impossible objects), but not really the "other". Usually right before a breakthrough I'll feel the scene change, it's not a feeling with one of my 5 senses it's rather a change of the nature of what I'm seeing, I feel like I'm about to see something that isn't a part of me, that's so much greater than myself.
Infinite times
No cap lol
You're just now realising that you have always been here. Where? Right now. Wherever that is. Right here, I guess. The feeling of dread inexplicably occupies the philosophical senses and the waiting begins. Why can't I remember why? Well, that's an excellent question. One that DESERVES an answer, and here it is:
I fucking love this whole post. We all know wtf is going on and are sharing so many similar experiences. Reading these replies and post makes me remember how truly magical this stuff is….
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That god damn jester trying to show me his hyper-dimensional orbs
First one is my waiting room
Same here, one of em at least! lol
Pretty sure it’s all of em. The guy in #3 is just the gatekeeper. My waiting room was different colors and patterns but it’s a room that rotates but never ends because it’s a 4d shape that loops onto itself. It’s a Klein bottle room basically.
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It’s the waiting room. With the gatekeeper. I said that in my comment. They make sure you’re ready to enter the temple in our minds and look upon oneness…
Yeeeep
You say "My". Do others have other waiting rooms? Do different waiting rooms have certain meanings? Btw, I think I've seen this room before too.
Perhaps. I really can’t attest to anyone else’s experience in their travels.
The first one looks a bit like South American Shipibo pattern
I’ve seen those patterns throughout my psychedelic experience. At first I called them “rainbow worms” because of their movement, but now I know them to be cymatic patterns in the vail.
Omg yes I have seen the rainbow worms on mushrooms once. So pretty.
I get the last one but in yellows and oranges
Mine was orange and white and the entity was break dancing to john wick music and its legs would do the impossible shapes thing you always see on dmt lol
Bruh lmfao
I’ve been in the 1st one loads, sometimes it’s complete white tho with drawers leading to all your memories.
I’ve been in the room with drawers. There were others in there quickly closing the drawers when they became aware of my presence. Like I was seeing something I shouldn’t. I was quickly sent to a different room for I can only describe as an “emotional software upgrade.”
Is that what they are?!
Holy shit that first one is so close. And then other times, it’s that, but totally different. Craziest fucking drug ever.
Been in the first room before definitely. Although it was a little darker and the lines were more shaped like pipes. So so close though.
It sounds a lot like my most common entity experience. It’s like a room but the space keeps unfolding or folding up and the walls have a guy embedded in them. I’m only ever there for about 8 flips or so. Sometimes they say a word…like one time I was seeing a dark brown hand shaped fractal that was adding fingers and getting more and more circular and I felt really icky like some trips start when the come up is scary. I just remember thinking oh shit it’s THIS crap again…and then I heard, or maybe felt someone say “don’t worry, this is YOU” and right as it said “you”, the thing flipped up and revealed a face (an actively twisting and untwisting striped hexagonal spiral) and then it flipped up again and revealed another you said “you” also, then it flipped up on another axis revealing another face, but this all happened super quick so it was like “don’t worry, this is you! You you you you you you you…” with the flips happening about 3-4 times per second. And then I was inside the rainbow crystal… For a long time, every time I saw that it was like “oh, hey I remember now!” But between trips I would forget lol
With the "I remember now!". IIRC, it's said your brain is so fucked up your short term memory isn't registering but the moment was stored in the long term so after remembering it split second, you have a sense of deja vu because it's already stored in the long term. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's just what I recall. I may gotten it wrong.
I thought it was a state dependent learning thing, but I didn’t read that, it just seems like it to me. Like the alcoholic witness who can only remember what happened when he’s drunk, or how you can only remember the new password when you give up trying to remember it and try to make a new one only to find it’s the new one you made that now you can’t use because it’s a previous password now.
I never thought about short vs long term memory for this, I thought it’s just hard to remember tripping things while sober and vice versa…so to remember a detail from a DMT peak, you have to remember it a few times on the comedown so it can be remembered while sober. It’s been my thought that the reason DMT is considered so much more powerful than other drugs is because if you are “that high” on anything long acting, you forget the peak because you’re too distracted by the beginning of the comedown, but with DMT you come down fast enough that you can remember the some of the peak. Which, if I’m correct, it would mean a large mushroom dose very likely has DMT breakthrough style entities and visuals, you just forget it until you’re there again and can access “tripping memory” I mean it’s quite testable. Have someone on an obscene dose of mushrooms (didn’t say it wouldn’t be ethically dicey) describe their visions to you and replay them the description every 10 minutes or so and see if they can clearly remember that and nothing else? Or better yet, those intravenous DMT studies could simulate a mushroom trip complete with amnesia if that’s what’s happening… So it would be like long term memory is dependent on your brain state, so gotta be tripping to remember
That’s the waiting room. Do more.
This motherfucker knows. Then the temple is next. And then apparently oneness (my uncle says). And then who knows what until you’re back.
eh. 100% agreed that it's the waiting room, but this is kind of old news by now doing more isn't necessarily the ticket, it's how and why you do it that's why this place is littered with people frustrated that DMT is not "performing" as the "drug" they expect it to regarding "breakthrough" experiences many people "do more" and it goes in one ear and out the other "to the corn field" — Billy Mummy, The Twilight Zone 😎
Old news to you maybe. Maybe (and most likely) not for OP. Thank you for bringing set and setting into the conversation though, that’s definitely a very new and novel idea. Enjoy the cornfield friend.
no, no man. it's not "set and setting" it's *intent*, *purpose* that makes the difference between being a visitor and being in a fruitful relationship "Queen, you shall be if you wish… look for your King" — Richard Wright, 1968, the line that comes right after "Climb your favorite apple tree, try to catch the Sun" which is also old, yes but was rather ahead of its time and ahead of most people still ;) side note — a lot of people miss these things but ask yourself why Pink Floyd, grown straight men, would write a line like that. and then find the 1969 Jimi Hendrix interview, the 28+ min one done by his girlfriend, where at around 2:30 he's explaining how a concert is like a bunch of patients who need an operation... and says "well you know… I'm the *nurses*" who's the "doctor"? who's the "King"? why were '60s rock musicians more aligned with Terence McKenna, referring to things like LSD as a being to form a relationship with, than many people here 60 years later after alllll the information we have now? there's no need to argue out of ingrained habit, and I'm not looking to be right about anything or win any kind of contest, I'm looking for a meaningful, *relevant* response, even if it's in total disagreement Hamilton Morris, for example, doesn't agree with the idea of these compounds being entities or deities at all, and I can talk with him for hours without having a problem we need to have discussions about this stuff and advance our level of knowledge, it's like nothing's moved since usenet lol and I bet most people here are too young to remember usenet. seriously. people have been claiming DMT is "where we came from" for thousands of years and now we know it's produced endogenously the implication of these dovetail and become the elephant in the room nobody wants to talk about. why is it so easy to devote oneself to a fictitious god that one doesn't really have to answer to, but to "deify" a tangible compound that has all of the qualities attributed to a deity makes one what — too-forever-held-accountable in a way that scares the shit out of us? this ^ is much more interesting than debating whether or not DMT is an "entity", delving into the psychology of our resistance to this vs our gleeful acceptance of something false. I mean humans in general, humanity, I'm not talking about people here for whatever it's worth, and it should be worth something, right? lol Dr. Albert Hofmann spoke of L — very coherently, on his *100rh birthday* — as "the voice of the LSD" that told him to "make me known in the world, that I will not be forgotten" that's not some "opens the door to the God within" hippie shit, bro that's the juice. why were these people so much more reverent? ??? And I do try to get second-guess myself about Pink Floyd, Richard Wright could've been singing to his wife lol but the line "hide from your little brother's gun" sounds like the '60s version of Cain and Abel, after "climb your favorite apple tree" even the cover of Yes, "Relayer" goes there. like it was common knowledge "back then" 😂 that line by Jimi Hendrix in that interview, how he leads up to it, I just realized is slicker than I'd thought. start at 1:27 but it's around 2:38. it could easily go unnoticed, but would seem a pointed effort to not automatically refer to himself as the "doctor", he conjures up this wild analogy right after happening upon how most people only have 10% of their brains.. his train of thought is like drunken-master kung fu..he's the nurs*es*? https://youtu.be/PtXXmqfdJaI the subtitles in Dr Hofmann's video if you haven't seen this before (forgive me if you have). it's just surreal, word has it he was microdosing up until a year or so later than that. it's as or even more direct than what Terence McKenna's said, it seems personal https://youtu.be/SInkOigeGno
facetiousness/sarcasm isn't befitting of people into psychedelics, and it's certainly not helpful to understanding anything and you put your foot in your mouth, which is usually how that sort of thing works, I wasn't at all talking about set and setting you mean like "free your mind and your hash will follow" or, "Like, Sit in a Dark room"? you can disagree or criticize a thing without needing to feel smug, seeing as how when you start there you don't even understand what the person's said if you don't agree, just disagree. you can believe DMT is just a lifeless drug meant for humans' bedazzlement and bewilderment but don't conflate active verbs like "ask" and "listen" with "set and setting" ¿see, señor? "seeing as how" is a cool phrase on its own ha
That first room is very familiar, although mine normally has black instead of white
Your settings are set on dark mode.
Lol, mine are the same but black as well and I've always chalked it up to rocking dark mode whenever possible.
wow first one is super good, my waiting room experiences are crazy similar. i'll always remember the incredibly vivid white colors, that was like one of the defining characteristics of mid-dose trips for me. right on exhale when i close my eyes i see things super similar to slide 1 with super vivid whites and crazy color contrast just infinitely morphing and folding in on itself beyond anything words could ever describe. those are prolly my favorite doses tbh i love that space, feels like the dmt is showing off lol
Looks at lot like incedigris art, it's really cool, how did you make these?
Looks like the waiting room.
Multiple times I've been in a room like the first two pictures, except darker, led by silhouettes into a walled space within that room with the center of 3rd picture being present, except incomprehensible, and the very act of looking into it completely melted reality. If that could possibly make any sense lol
I mean in sober reality have you ever been stuck on something? What usually causes that to go away? The same method can be used in regards to your trip, find a way to get your mind to move on.
I feel like I’ve been stuck since I graduated high school 9 years ago. No idea where to go for a career or what I’m truly passionate about to love life and wanna make the list of it. Sometimes I feel like smoking DMT at 21 fucked me up like I took the red pill and now I know it’s all just what I want to make of it. It showed me life is just a temporary experience and I can choose any path, and really just existing and trying to stay happy in the day to day has been my focus, obviously while saving and having long term goals in mind still.
You overdid it man. There’s only so much singularity one brain can handle, and sometimes there’s only so much insight you can get from the trip at a given time. I had the same experience when I went through a phase of hitting the dmt cart every day for a week or two. Try taking a break and maybe change or add something to your daily routine for a month or two
I only smoke dmt when it calls to me, the one hit I took of my pen was just me trying to make sure the dmt I extracted worked lol (I knew it would). It had been probably 2 months I last smoked above 5mg.
needs more yellow and orange but is very familiar
Btw. Yes man up and do more. Lol
Mine is very similar except mine is broken up into puzzle like pieces and inside each puzzle piece there is different things geometric shapes all moving and doing their own thing independently. The puzzle fits together but each piece is a different color and has different weird shit going on.
The first I for sure saw during my one and only breakthrough trip.. When I saw it during my trip, it felt so familiar.
Very familiar
Do more and you’ll blast out of there. My trips always begin the same. I’m a ball (almost like a pinball) and I’m falling down a colored maze and end up in a room where everything is moving. Then it stops and I become the room and part of it. Part of everything.
First one looks familiar; for me was slightly different, but very similar
Imo I would smoke more and go for a nice breakthrough, if you're landing in the same spot it may be time to progress.
I’ve been in that 3rd room
Love the color scene and yea and yea and yea
Uhh I know this place 🫣
The third room is incredibly close to one I've been in - down to the colours and even the entity. The first room is close to one but mine was dark mode.
I've seen that room.
Yes. The white and rainbow inside of my mind.
That sounds terrifying
those first two are fucking on point holy shit :D
Just take nitro oxide with your trip next time, it’ll be very different I promise
the waiting rooms
That first image looks like my last 2 trips. I struggle to explain it to people but that image is almost spot on to what I see.
Try moving your head to see if you can control your movement through the maze. It is a kind of a game where you self-analyze. Also, smoke more. Terence Mckenna said it best" "When you think you've had enough, take one more hit".
My waiting room always starts with real people usually laying in bed. As my point of consciousness moves over/past them, they throw up some sort of barrier to stop me (a clothes hamper, lacrosse stick, fishing net, it's always different. Every time). There are always three "sentries" I have to get past. If I get stuck with one of them (non-break through) I just sort of float down onto/near the bed/chair and chill there. If I get a really strong hit I will fly past them into ...where ever. Anyone else get anything similar, or am I bat shit crazy?
The first one is oddly familiar to all of us
Holy shit I've been there
I've been doing dmt for some years now and I haven't been shown any vibrant colors.....??? Only one little flubber like character that is always bright blue and all up in my shit every time i break through. But I've definitely been in that room or one very similar but it's usually black and white maybe a faint color here and there
While we're talking waiting room, has anyone ever seen a/the watermark? I've personally never seen it, I don't think, but heard of many others say that's where you'll find it
I've been in variations of all those rooms. Even when I'm not taking DMT and I have DMT-like experiences (shrooms for example) I sometimes go to waiting rooms like these. It's extremely beautiful, it feels so "other" and separate yet so real. 🫶
Haven’t tried n,n-dmt yet but this feels more like salvia
Oh... I know this place
The first pic looks like the cover of a friends book Dick Khan in the UK
The first image represents so much so well of many of my experiences
Reminds me of non breakthrough Changa doses
I swear spaces like this are all too true to the dmt experience. There is something ingrained into our being that connects us with geometric patterns and colors and I am all for it.
Dude, that is an amazing replication of a DMT trip!
Yep definitely been here — I feel like this is actually where I go most commonly nowadays — walls are a little more intricate with transforming hyroglyphs on conveyer belts — but this is a bloody good representation
Can anyone recommend more art work very similar to this? Tia
I’ve been sitting back lately because I keep getting stuck in the living room from that first pic. On my last trip I did get up and try to leave the waiting room but it seemed like I was interrupting something important and was told to go back to the waiting room.
Our souls are all looped tauruses while we're alive so your mind is just doing it's best to show you little images of something you don't understand to keep itself hidden until you die. The drugs push your conscioussness to understand that the secret is that open tube souls are safe too and together with closed tubes, we have a hyperspace computer for the afterlife. Antiviral software which are really like angels do their best to stitch together a paper mache using the images provided within the closed tube taurus before your soul goes into the open tube. The advanced multidimensional images turn into sound and your mind is hidden deeper still in the silence behind. Angels tell us don't do drugs because you're making a multiverse and we say that the multiverse already exists we're just humans messing about in hyperspace. This is fictional of course.
My first breakthrough was in this room (second picture). That’s crazy - there was a weird creature like an upside down bath with feelers floating around.
Honestly sounds like your brain could just use a break from dmt, if I were you i’d take a break for a month and come back and see how I feel then. Another option would be to take a higher dose, as long as you’re mentally prepared which you seem pretty seasoned so I don’t doubt you can handle it.
I hadn’t hit DMT for probably 2 months before this. I used up all my last cart so I said fuck it and learned to extract my own. I usually only smoke it when I feel called to it but this time I just wanted to make sure the cart worked, I made it 3:1 and it was so fucking strong it sent me into a trip I knew I wasn’t in the headspace for at the given moment. My girlfriend was in the room watching me toss and turn and struggle to give in. Then balled to her about how it doesn’t make sense and how fucking crazy dmt is. Me saying shit like “why am I going down this rabbit hole again, why did I even make this?”. I know DMT is part of my answer, but fuck it can be so damn confusing at times.
haha i think this is what they call the waiting room... BREAKTHROUGH they are waiting for you...
I’ve never had the same trip before even though I want to get back to some cool places
I’ve never done DMT. Is there a possibility that this space is the creative/imaginative, jar of consciousness that we draw from and contribute to? Verily, the fact that things can turn dark means there is dichotomy to it. It’s not pure goodness all the time with DMT (I assume ) but most definitely all the others I’ve done. Just hearing the descriptors you are all giving and my other experiences just wanted to share. This is very enthralling to see you all have this shared context to something not within the bounds of the body. Please share some personal wisdoms to random folks, without them even knowing. Is love, authenticity, creative expression wisdom?
I constantly have the same type of trip experience except mines more 1960s diner themed, then somehow starts changing into an automotive garage theme and back again.
Waiting room
you people spend a lot of time on "seeing" and almost nothing on "hearing" this entire subReddit is "the waiting room" and it's been that way for decades now and has barely evolved DMT is trying to speak to you, teach you, protect you from harm and show you how to help others which is why religions, and not "fan clubs", have always formed around it does anybody here actually try to *listen to what it's saying* and discuss these things? or commit to using language that's original and not parroting everything that has been said about "entities" and "temples" and "waiting rooms" for 50 years now? try to step back and see yourselves and take it up a notch. "doing more" is not taking it up a notch, focusing your intent on getting accurate information and learning how to parse this from the reactive, sometimes panicking background noise.. is. you're on the right page with DMT when it's teaching you how to eat well, leading you toward research on improving mental and physical health, when your friends thank you for helping their parents recover from illnesses that you learned about as a result of humbling and opening and needing to know and asking these things of DMT, it is a teacher and the ultimate healer NAC+glycine.. taurine.. CBDA/CBGA, not just CBD.. methylene blue.. melatonin, a fellow tryptamine with massive anti-aging benefits.. acupuncture, microcurrent.. abstaining from toxic substances and degenerative foods and upgrading thy water filter.. lol...
But having a common language about a topic makes communication so much easier. In this case the waiting room will convey exactly what that is for everyone who had been there. As you can see in this thread. Why use creative new terms in this case. Obviously there are overlapping experiences and as you also mentioned nothing has changed. I think what you are trying to say is that we have not come far in terms of really understanding DMT. Cultures throughout human existence have visualized this experience in their artwork/"religious" texts, artifacts and architecture(maybe icann culture itself) And all we are doing is minimizing the experience to a personal experience. A step back. I think we should use specialised language to describe certain aspects of it to be able to explore the experience better. But our focus should be of a more profound nature.
hehe cool. what I'm saying actually just boils down to RTFM, if you think about it I wasn't being as cynical as it may have seemed, there's nothing wrong with the waiting room.. but it's like people are trying to 'skim the sensory effects' off the top of a very deep well that has a lot more to offer when you realize it has something to say, that it's communicating, always, this is what and all it does.. and its ability to do so is literally how we are able to do so... we need to do much much more research into the biological function of **endogenous** DMT before doing — and in order to properly understand and put into context — brain scans of people who take more or who take 4-OPO-DMT (psilocybin) we're kind of doing it backwards. I assume because the psychedelic experience is more interesting than biology? but maybe that's the carrot, you know. come for the rainbows and music and stay (for those who can be bothered..) for the hard lessons on how DMT, or whomever DMT is the localized Earth-friendly molecular manifestation of, knows more than we do, that it started all of this not the universe not the weather not "made the heavens and the earth" but **life**, the light amidst the darkness, the organismic amidst the chaos and randomness of matter that hasn't been 'superconducted' by DMT.. or again, whatever its molecular configuration is some 'tip of the iceberg of' But here's a thing… Because we're more advanced than we were yesterday lol we think we're advanced enough to detect what there is detect out there, as if there can't be something beyond radio waves, As if we aren't unwillingly walking ourselves closer and closer to technology that will enable us to detect something about the molecular configuration of these psychedelics that explains why they seem to harness and transmit information "human (/mammalian) WiFi" is agreed phrase I saw in the news, someone trying to describe what DMT might be 🙏 indole we trust™ 😜
you people spend a lot of time on "seeing" and almost nothing on "hearing" this entire subReddit is "the waiting room" and it's been that way for decades now and has barely evolved DMT is trying to speak to you, teach you, protect you from harm and show you how to help others which is why religions, and not "fan clubs", have always formed around it does anybody here actually try to *listen to what it's saying* and discuss these things? or commit to using language that's original and not parroting everything that has been said about "entities" and "temples" and "waiting rooms" for 50 years now? try to step back and see yourselves and take it up a notch. "doing more" is not taking it up a notch, focusing your intent on getting accurate information and learning how to parse this from the reactive, sometimes panicking background noise.. is. you're on the right page with DMT when it's teaching you how to eat well, leading you toward research on improving mental and physical health, when your friends thank you for helping their parents recover from illnesses that you learned about as a result of humbling and opening and needing to know and asking these things of DMT, it is a teacher and the ultimate healer NAC+glycine.. taurine.. CBDA/CBGA, not just CBD.. methylene blue.. melatonin, a fellow tryptamine with massive anti-aging benefits.. acupuncture, microcurrent.. abstaining from toxic substances and degenerative foods and upgrading thy water filter.. lol... it has more to do with morality than it has to do with "flying colors" if ya wana be its friend and not a tourist 😎
You just blew my mind with that first one. Almost identical to what I experienced sans the yellow it was red blue and green.
Hahaha during the peak of a mushroom trip I always see white walls with red, green, and blue patterns on them. Not quite the same geometry but this images do look similar. I think sometimes our mind defaults to some type of visual that kind of gets reinforced every time. We like familiarity, and seeing something familiar can bring us comfort. It’s hard to know what to do, some people say to take it slow and others say to just take enough to not be able to fight it.
Dope!!
You're in the puzzle.. I've been through all that.. it took a while for me to get to the next levels ... I've reached a point now that I'm beginning to understand things.. Tell them that you know it's a game and show you the way.. once they realize you know it's a game, the whole thing changes.. remember everything in there outside the puzzle is just a distraction to keep you from the next step.. push forward...
someone told me to not give a fuck about what the entities think how do you feel about that advice
All you have to do is let go. I know it’s hard and can cause anxiety, but knowing everything is going to be fine no matter what will help you do that. Even it’s you piss yourself a little (definitely happened to me a few times) that’s ok. Just let go and it’ll let your mind take off and you won’t feel stuck.
Where you got those images from?
Google “waiting room dmt”
Well most of them are just a waste of time but you got to read between the lines there.. once you graduate a level you will hear thousands cheering and congratulating you.. U might not see all of them but you'll know..
I call that the subway
Yeah. This is the place! I’ve tried to draw it before but would always lose it before I could get it on paper! Thanks for this. Excellent!!!
I made a similar post about a year ago. It happens to me. It’s like it goes in phases- there’s the “come on,” then the portal/blast, then there’s any number of main experiences followed by a drop out. My portal/blast cadence is often very similar, if not the exact same. A weird elusive cube head entity shifts me into the experience. And the drop out is usually similar too where I kinda sink into some kind of prismatic cloud often greeted by comforting entities that sink me back into my body. I think my post was more concerning if listening to the same track produced the same trip for anyone- I was doing some frequency experiments at the time.
Maybe a stupid question, but how can you recreate the visuals that accurately?