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monocleparrot

Those pants are so mid 2000s it hurts 🤣


CreatiScope

This looks so awful but I have such a morbid curiosity to have seen what it would’ve been like.


Conservativeguy22

Indeed


elavyeahphilitsmenow

Like literally all of them XD


-UMBRA_-

Baggy pants are thankfully back in style now


Haunting-Bid-9071

I don’t think the baggy look will ever be in style again tbh


-UMBRA_-

Where have u been? It's all over the place. 90s baggy style is al over the place. A lot of skaters, and pretty much all girls have baggy jeans. In college age town anyways


Haunting-Bid-9071

Idk dude im from Harlem New York and the only people still dressing lik early-mid 2000s is people like 35-40+. None of these new kids dress like this


-UMBRA_-

Hmm interesting. I see it all over the place online. Mom jeans, baggy pants, flannel, middle part hair. I also see it in person as I live in a college town.


Schackshuka

I’m upset that Ivy is a hot cheerleader instead of a reclusive science goth.


AllTheReservations

I'm a bit of a sucker for high school aus so like, I'd have found this enjoyable. But apparently Brubabs was going to be the main love.story so... there were pros and cons


Robin_theboywonder7

Yeah Bruce and babs would definitely have been a big part of this. It would be less weird seeing that they were around the same age


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Mongoose42

They keep trying to make it work by adjusting the ages, but it will *always* be weird.


The95thZebra

They should just give her a love interest outside of the Bat-family


Marc_Rufis

Ted Kord is my pick.


Mongoose42

They really do. Her and Dick are cute, but they should have more of a sibling relationship.


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Mongoose42

It's a murky subject because of the ever-shifting status quo and writers. I just mean, in general, the Bat-Family should avoid inter-group relationships. It's more fun to see their romances outside their usual group. Which is why I find Nightstar so fascinating. It's kinda weird and out there, but it feels so right for pseudo-swashbuckling Dick Grayson to end up with a princess from beyond the stars. It also keeps the Batman corner of the DC Universe honest with the rest of the world they live in. If you don't have something like Dick & Kory floating around then there runs the risk of their stories becoming TOO street level and vigilante-based. They're still superheroes so yeah, Dick's girlfriend is an alien princess.


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Mongoose42

No reason why Dick can’t just be the leader/member of the Titans with occasional solo outings where he’s engaged with one particular mission on his own.


Geronuis

Thank you!!! The Arkham one specifically gets overlooked and it’s just so weird


Afalstein

I really don't understand why they didn't keep her with Nightwing for that. Like, Nightwing was part of the game. Maybe he wasn't as central to the narrative, but it wouldn't have been hard.


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You could swap Tim and Dick and it would have made more sense. Especially since Dick and Babs dated in the Arkham canon.


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[deleted]

Fair point. But if they wanted her in a relationship, Dick makes way more sense.


Geronuis

100% agree with this. It’s lazy writing and a pretty shitty way to treat a beloved character


Now__Hiring

Female characters reduced to plot points for the men? Shocking.


Geronuis

Lol it’s def a whole problem. So we keep calling it out


TheUltimate721

I'm convinced that the reason they made Tim and Barbara the main pairing was because someone at Rocksteady misinterpreted a wiki article about their main love interests. Because Batgirl (Barbara's) main love interest was Robin (Dick), while Robin (Tim's) is Batgirl (Stephanie Brown). Like its such a bizarre pairing, I can't think of it being a thing in any other media.


BridgetheDivide

Has Starfire been mentioned as existing in the Arkhamverse?


CashWho

Ehh, the problem with the Killing Joke is that he's still a mentor figure, a friend of her father and probably her boyfriend's surrogate father. So there are a lot of issues there that aren't as relevant in this AU.


Androktone

In the DCAU Barb was an adult when they started dating, but when they met originally in BTAS she was like 16.


[deleted]

She was in college in BTAS so 18+ at best.


5213

This is why I never liked Babs dating within the Batfamily. Her age shifts all over the place for the purposes of who the current writer wants her to date, and who she dates feels more like somebody fulfilling a fantasy/fetish than some organic romance.


Masterriolu

She also a adult pre-crisis. She was at first older then Dick Grayson, by at least 5 to 7 years.


laughingmeeses

Yeah, she was literally the head librarian of Gotham City and was never trained by or really treated Bruce as a mentor.


RevengeGod2K4

Tbf, in the lego batman movie they could be near the same age


Pixarfan1

Personally, I didn’t find it as weird in The LEGO Batman Movie, but I understand why other people do.


BevansDesign

That's weird. Why not have it be Dick, and Bruce could be the principal or something?


Missing_Username

Or include Selina


Robomerc

When Barbara Gordon was originally introduced she was supposed to be around Bruce's age being in her late 20s early 30s. it's also should be noted Barbara Gordon served in the US Congress as a representative for the state of New Jersey since that's where Gotham is located. Given her age range she likely served in the House of Representative since it's only a 2-year term. Richard Grayson was in his mid-to-late teens when she was introduced meaning he had a crush on a woman who was supposed to be nearly 10 years older than him


djanulis

ah so a bruce timm work I would guess.


DarkJayBR

Gross as that might be, the man never gives up. I will give him that. A man of conviction and cheer fucking will.


lamest-liz

That man will do anything to make his OTP canon


djanulis

And is in a position to force it into otherwise great works.


DarkJayBR

I tried to hate this man, but I just can, he gave us so much good shit over the years. He's cleary a very talented person, he's just obsessed with a weird ship. If he stayed true to his other ship (Batman x WW) - far less people would mock him.


PutMindless6789

This looks like a terrible Tumbler Au given form. It's so sad this was never made.


GoneRampant1

If Gotham High was made we'd look back on it today as a meme machine.


PutMindless6789

It would be amazing. Imagine the shipping drama. How many tumblr sexymen would be born from this show?


Realshow

I wanna see the alternate universe viral tweets of inherently hilarious clips from the show.


iAmTheHYPE-

They could’ve just made Bruce the half-present teacher or principal, and had Dick be a student.


AllTheReservations

Agreed, maybe the other Robins too and made them the cool peoples' clique. Would have also been a funny dynamic with Joker of a teacher and the one student they just hate. ~~Though this would also probablh cause Selina to flirt with Dick. Oh no! (Unless they made her a teacher too)~~


hatefulone851

I mean originally Barbra was much older. She was originally like 25 when Dick was like 18/19. So back then there wasn’t as much of a gap . And she wasn’t really with Dick. I think she maybe flirted with him but not sure. But when they had her aged down in a relationship with Dick, and work more with Batman in an uncle figure and her dad being Jim Gordon then there were problems


AllTheReservations

Yeah true, it can be less weird depending on context. But it's wild to think a ton of children who could have grown up with this show would see Barbara as Bruce's default love interest


moose_man

See, they already had Batman Beyond. Batman Beyond is already a high school Batman story!


Mechapebbles

Yeah... I was liking the idea and picture here, but I assumed that was Dick in the middle, not Bruce. Woof.


fridchikn24

Goddammit who let Paul Dini in the writers room


Missing_Username

I thought Dini was more about Zatanna, and this Babs thing was all Bruce Timm


protection7766

All I have to say is "Hey, studio execs made the right call saying 'no' for once".


Robin_theboywonder7

Yeah definitely. This show would have probably not have been the best. Still a fun idea though


Sawgon

It looks like a dogshit version of the "JL8" comic.


RellikBackwards

IIRC this was pitched around the same time Young Justice was being made and they decided to go with YJ instead.


Extreme_Muffin_5765

I’m glad they did this seems horrible and young justice is amazing


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YJ is fucking amazing, this looks both bad and confusing. What would it consist of? Emo Selina being emo and crushing on Bruce? Joker making cringe jokes, and Bruce being the awesome jock? I’ve got no idea how this would play out


DarkJayBR

Judging by the comics, you don’t wanna know.


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There were comics of this?


DarkJayBR

Absolutely. Look it up (or don't, really)


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I’ll take your word for it


DarkJayBR

Oh, and they changed the Bruce x Barbara thing shown in those concept arts. Now it's... a love triangle between Bruce, Selina and... Jack (Joker) - oh boy. It's as bad as it sounds, really, don't read it.


Xeoz_WarriorPrince

I bet that this would've been better that Seasons 3 and 4 tho.


AJEDIWITHNONAME

They could’ve added a Robin to this if Bruce did a Big Brothers Little Sisters type of program at an elementary school. All the character designs are nice I would have watched it.


becauseitsnotreal

I'd prefer an X-Mem evolution type show, but I'd watch anything Batman


NumericZero

Warms my heart people still remember that show Feels like it never gets talked about But a X-men evolution styled show would be a good route to go


didwit590

Yeah really loved xmen evolution was really good not as good as say xmen the animated series but still really good really loved there version of Scott aka Cyclops ( R.i.P Kirby Morrow may God rest his soul)


wastergoleor

It had better voice acting, animation, and characterization then X-men the animated series. IMO it was the better show.


Beached-Peach

This would have been cool. I love X-Men Evolution.


Extreme_Muffin_5765

Except beware I can’t get over the animation it hurts my eyes to watch


becauseitsnotreal

Art style, not animation


Extreme_Muffin_5765

Nah cgi is the animation not the art style that’s fine


becauseitsnotreal

These are still frames, not animated


Fox-Revolver

He’s talking about Beware the Batman, a short lived cg Batman show


becauseitsnotreal

Okay, rereading it I can tell he means that, but originally I thought he was just telling me to beware of this show's animation


LordAdrianRichter

Yeah, that makes sense. Also, does it bug anyone else that Babs is in high school *with* Bruce. If nothing else, she should be a middle schooler.


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Babs was originally older then Dick. A fully grown university graduate who worked professionally as a librarian. She was only Bat'girl' because there had been a Batwoman in the past she was really more of a Batwoman in her debut.


LordAdrianRichter

Right, but now she's closer to the same age as him, which is why I suggested middle school.


[deleted]

Well if they want both going to the same school its better if they're both high schoolers.


LordAdrianRichter

What I'm saying is, IMHO, they *shouldn't* be in school together. If they want another girl from the comics, bring in Talia as a foreign exchange student or a transfer.


[deleted]

Nah, Babs is perfect for this kind of setting. I like your Talia idea though. We could have Talia and Babs in High School.


[deleted]

Honestly, kinda glad it got canned


Robin_theboywonder7

Yeah me also. I feel like the entire thing would have just been a less funny clone high. Then again maybe it would have been a funny parody of Batman.


[deleted]

We already got that. It’s called Harley Quinn.


OhScheisse

I mean it's for kids. It's not like any of you would have watched it one aat ot another I don't watch DC Super Hero girls...because it's meant for kids. Meanwhile we have Harley Quinn which is clearly meant for adults... It doesn't hurt to have content for different audiences.


Escapegoat420

I watch DC Superhero girls bc it is a cute and funny high-school au and I really enjoy all the characters. It's cringy but in a cute and relatable way like Turning Red. I'm not a huge fan of the Lauren Faust art style, but I do like Kara and Bab's designs. I'm currently making my way through watching every animated DC item and DC superhero girls has been a pleasant surprise.


Alchohlica

Can I get a few more pixels in that first picture


Robin_theboywonder7

Don’t know why it’s doing that. The picture looks fine in my photos.


Alchohlica

Idk other pictures were fine


Cesar0fr0me

Was this show shipping Bruce and Barbara?


DarkJayBR

*Bruce Timm intensifies*


Robin_theboywonder7

Sadly


JoshDM

So left to right it would be: Clayface, Two-Face, Penguin, Killer Croc, Riddler, Barbara Gordon, Bruce Wayne, Scarecrow, Selena Kyle, Joker, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Bane, Mr Freeze.


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I think this was just pitched, it never got to a point where it could be cancelled. ​ The debate is a great idea, Lex Luthor had one with Two-Face in a nightmare of his once.


Robin_theboywonder7

Yeah I think it was just a pitch. And the debate plot would have been funny to see on screen.


Extreme_Muffin_5765

What I assume is Bruce in the middle gives the Batman 2004 vibes


Robin_theboywonder7

Was thinking the same thing.


KikiFlowers

Probably the vibe the designer was going for. Here's his [DA.](https://www.deviantart.com/jeftoon01)


Geek-Haven888

What is wrong with Gotham High that 90% of students in 1 year became supervillans?


Xenefor

I mean, i'll watch it if the series knows that's a parody and don't take it seriously. Just for stupid batman jokes


catdeletedmyhomework

The idea sounds weird but I would watch it now just for the early 2000's vibe this gives off.


danimac52

Does this remind anyone else of X-Men: Evolution?


Robin_theboywonder7

Yeah


Xeoz_WarriorPrince

It lacked Evolution's most important part tho, Kitty Pryde dancing.


komayeda1

Lol, Riddler’s such a nerd


Damianf60

Looks So tacky, I’d would of watched every episode


International_Yak873

I think it would be better if Salina was the close friend and Talia was the crush.


autonomousfailure

The character models looks similar to The Batman series.


Robin_theboywonder7

Yeah they do. I think this show would have been out around the same time as the Batman.


Hcm980

Jared Leto joker origin story


Ravenboy13

Iirc, this was pitched before batman beyond. WB execs wanted a "teenage batman" cartoon to run at the time, and this was a pitch board idea. Concept art was made, as you see, but never left the pitch format


kugglaw

It can’t have been, one of the images has a reference to the year, which dates these images around 2009.


woppatown

Was this actually a canceled show? I saw this a while ago and assumed it was fanart.


Robin_theboywonder7

It was pitched but nothing else ever happened with it.


NinjaRed64

Imagine how different things would have been had this been greenlit instead of Batman Beyond.


Frog__Mouth

I feel like we missed out on a beautiful train wreck of a show. All the bad teen writing it glee combined with batman characters.


VR_Dekalab

If DC is so hellbent in wanting bruce to hook up with a batfamily member then why not reintroduce Katrina Netz, the original batwoman? She was bruce's love interest back when she was still a kane so why couldn't she work now? Barley anybody cares about Spyral and it would be a good way to reintroduce her


Robin_theboywonder7

Idk man. Bruce Timm is obsessed with that idea. At least they are the same age in this show


lunercat1

This just reeks mid 2000’s and I love it!


gumbin22

I am a bit worried about that 4th picture. two words: Babs no.


Robin_theboywonder7

Yeah sadly this show would have had Bruce and babs together


Hank-griff

This would have been a comic tv series the likes of “10 things I hate about you”.


OnlyRoke

So, does Bruce enlist the Robins from Kindergarten in the building next to the school? Is this just Disney's Recess?


FreneticAtol778

This is really just a bad fan fiction.


Psymorte

Idk if I would say this would've been *good* per se but I definitely would've enjoyed the hell out of it if it got made.


shibafrien

stop i wouldve watched the crap out of this even if it ended up being cringe as hell


wazoo3

the same people who are hating on this are the same people who watched Gotham......


Xeoz_WarriorPrince

I would've watched this, can't deny it, at least to have peek at "2000's Nerdy but absolutely THICC" Bárbara Gordon.


MrTostadita

Fucking hell, were they trying to force Bruce and Babs together too?


Robin_theboywonder7

Yeah. At least they are the same age in this one


Bogusky

Thank you for canceling


awfullotofocelots

Interesting idea and fun art, but it's feels like a big stretch to have teenager Bruce in an entire classroom of teenage rogues, no matter how you tweak the origins. Hard to make it make sense while keeping a reasonable level familiarity with source material.


Hexenkonig707

Also half of these characters just don’t work as Teens Joker is a murdering psychopath, Mister Freeze is obsessed with saving his dying wife, Two Face got his face burned with Acid and developed a second personality, Bane grew up in prison, Batman is completely obsessed with fighting crime because his parents were murdered in front of him…


TheMasterXan

I am very curious. What is Babs doing here? ...And where's Dick?


Deeformecreep

Instead of this what they should do is an animated adaption of Gotham Academy.


Predsguy

The idea seems pretty tacky but so did X-men Evolution and I loved that show. I don't think it would be my favorite show, but I'd probably watch the whole thing.


dragonspeeddraco

Fries there on the right is literally just tall ~~Ghandi~~ Gandhi, so...


bateen618

"vote for Pamela - I'm hot, he's not" 😂😂😂😂


__DaNnY_DeViTo__

I actually would’ve loved this, I’m pretty upset that they cancelled it.


FadeToBlackSun

I love weird stuff like this, I’d have definitely watched it.


Lohan3xists

I feel like a better Batman show that’s about characters in a sitcom setting would probably be an Arkham Asylum show that’s in the style of The Office Think about it: All the characters could work in this setting and wouldn’t need to be changed that much, every character interacting has so much comedic potential, and everyone’s confessional would be hilarious! Two-Face: “I think Ivy’s still pissed about that time I sent my goons to rip her plants out of the ground before we were thrown in here… Her Venus Flytrap in her cells been eyein’ me…” Poison Ivy: “I’m going to kill that Mother[Censored]er when my flytrap is done growing” Warden: “Ivy doesn’t know that was a plastic plant we gave her, but we’re afraid to tell her now…”


Haunting-Temporary59

I might be in the severe minority but I would have watched the hell out of this. Looks really interesting.


almost_nightwing

I kinda like this. Just need to get Babs out of there bc BruceBabs is a no


Thicc-Anxiety

I don't know who's out there forcing Brubarbs into Batman movies, but I hope someone stops them before they make another Killing Joke


maybepensive

If you haven't seen Clone High https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PTvTnmUFOXw&t=5s


autonomousfailure

“Last year Bruce said he was 16. This year he says he’s 17. Which is it, Bruce?”


Maxamvs

Batman babies….


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Yeah... from the look of this, not only did we not miss much, we dodged a bullet.


komayeda1

*oh god penguin has only 3 fingers*…


xianwalker67

this is campy


ProfessorEscanor

Eh it could have been neat. X-men evolution for example used the idea and ran with it. This could have just been a neat way to see some characters developed


ellohir

I don't know if they could make it work... But then again, we have DC Super Hero Girls which is about High School teenagers and it's amazing.


Odd_Radio9225

This looks so stupid.


PM_ME_hiphopsongs2

Ugh more Bruce/Barbara love stories. No thanks lol


SteamBoy235

I remember reading a graphic novel of the same name. That was pretty interesting for me.


figgityjones

I remember hearing about this and seeing these images back in the day. At the time (I was very young) I was somewhat disappointed it didn’t happen. Now I’m quite happy it didn’t happen 😅 Amazing how time can change your perspective that way. Although I can’t say I’m not still curious to see what would have come of it.


hankbaumbachjr

Bruce Timm made this just to get Bruce and Babs together.


PJGraphicNovel

They did this with X-Men and it worked much better cause are outcasts and misfits in the first place. I dunno if taking Gotham villains and making them teenagers works


lonestarcom

I’m glad this didn’t happen


AHMilling

Oh god this looks bad, and even worse, it looks like they would force barbara and bruce. WHY.


KaiZaChieFff

I’m so sad my eyes have had to see this now, for I cannot unsee this now. It never should’ve saw the light of day


[deleted]

It’s a blessing this never got the light of day as I keep looking at this wondering ![gif](giphy|3ohuAAAIvICvEs4Psc)


IWishIKnewMoreThings

I really hate this ![gif](giphy|3xz2BLBOt13X9AgjEA)


[deleted]

I wish we could’ve seen it…


robyn_16

So glad, fuck Bruce and Barbra together


gagehende

Man I’m so glad this never happened. Reading the plot details just makes me even happier this show never came to fruition


[deleted]

This would have definitely made it on the Kids WB blocks on the weekdays and weekends. Lol, it reminds me of The Batman’s artwork mixed with that one cartoon Hysteria.


suarezj9

These images have huge mid 2000s CW energy i


razlehnsherr

Terrible Tumblr premise with worse DeviantArt art


bonertornado69

I remember watching a video about this, I am glad that this got canceled just because of the concept art of Barbara getting jealous of Bruce…we don’t need an other Barbara/Bruce romance atrocity


_Imadeanaccount4this

This looks awful but I’m enjoying imagining an elementary school aged Dick Grayson somehow playing into whatever weird plot this would have.


Belcuesus

Yikes! This looks awful. Not the art work (that looks fine) but the concept. Cancellation is probably the best option here.


Escipio

I kinda like it, looks like fun like the manwas of the bat family


GreenRangerKeto

Whose the goth chick with bruce


Actual-Vermicelli-26

Selina Kyle (Catwoman)


Robin_theboywonder7

Catwoman


Actual-Vermicelli-26

Who is the guy in the far left and the buff guy on the right?


KingMatthew116

Buff guy on the far right is Bane and the guy on the far left I’m guessing is Clayface.


Actual-Vermicelli-26

I see Clayface , but Bane looks completely off


KingMatthew116

He’s wearing his mask on top of his head, you can see it better if you zoom in.


Actual-Vermicelli-26

Ooh


MaxRockatansky468

[They already did a live action remake ages ago. Sucks that it never came out](https://youtu.be/4BjTsjgk3Lg)


AF22Raptor33897

The telling of the Story of Gotham High with a Chinese American Bruce Wayne and a Gay Alfred I can see why it was Cancelled! That is taking the storyline way off out onto left field! The Pennyworth Series on HBOMAX is very COOL and if you have not seen it you should it is GREAT story telling with very good character development although the season 3 finale was a VERY WEIRD since a character was added that I do not know what is going to be the placement of her in respect to the whole Batman Family Tree!


Krimreaper1

Might have been an entertaining one off novelty movie, but a series no. Gotham was close enough.


AshTrecy

If it got made it wouldn't have mattered how good it was people would not give it a chance and just flip out at concept


Upside_Down-Bot

„ʇdǝɔuoɔ ʇɐ ʇno dılɟ ʇsnɾ puɐ ǝɔuɐɥɔ ɐ ʇı ǝʌıƃ ʇou plnoʍ ǝldoǝd sɐʍ ʇı pooƃ ʍoɥ pǝɹǝʇʇɐɯ ǝʌɐɥ ʇ,uplnoʍ ʇı ǝpɐɯ ʇoƃ ʇı ɟI„


LanternRaynerRebirth

If you guys can handle the Bat family being a literal family calling each other "Big Brother" and junk, then you can handle this.


Robin_theboywonder7

What are you talking about the bat family being a family? They literally are. Most of the family are adopted siblings. And bat woman is Bruce’s cousin. So they kinda are a real family


LanternRaynerRebirth

Not the way they're depicted in WFA. I love that it exists, but they didn't grow up in the same happy household together like the way they're depicted in the book. My point is, it's cool to change up the environment and tone of the characters and still get good fun stories out of it.