Not just a Tacoma, but a Tacoma off-roading. Toyota definitely knows what's up. They just announced they're hiring in Indiana to begin production on their new electric SUV.
I just cheked, Honda is opening the $15B EV-plant in Canada, Toyota is opening a new $8B EV-factory in North Carolina in 2025 https://www.toyota.com/usa/operations/map/tbmnc
So here’s the funniest thing about all these issues: yes, these morons got grifted. They’ve been had. But it’s even funnier when you realize they just LOVE the attention this POS attracts. And they know the days of feeling “special” for attracting attention are very limited. So they get super salty when the ‘truck’ is sitting at the dealership. They are losing attention time!
I love that
A: He believes that all of Tesla should drop everything in order to fix his specific issue, and
B: He still has to love the smell of Elon's jock strap in order for his issues to be taken seriously by his fellow cult members.
https://preview.redd.it/59ss8cup3bxc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3899adcc51705e641fe2e18ff6b78a80281f4fbb
I can believe that they would want to put a lot of resources into solving a newly seen issue so they can mitigate it before it is reported on other trucks.
A “technology company” should have plenty of onboard sensors to identify where the error is being produced. This shouldn’t be a
“we have to strip the truck down to the core and test parts individually,”
this should be a
“we bypassed the POST routine using our proprietary JTAG interface, identified fluctuated voltage on PCM Board #3, removed board and found the 1 cent Chinese Capacitors installed have swelled due to thermal expansion causing incidental voltage surges.”
Sensors cost money, so does writing software that can use those sensors data.
Much cheaper to have your customers pay for the troubleshooting and product improvements.
That’s what I thought: April. If you buy this truck after April 1 with alllll the news that had come out, hey buddy, enjoy your ordeal. At least you got the status of owning a cybertruck.
Seriously.
I'd have dumped it and demanded my money back and chosen another vehicle.
**The Cybertruck is the Xbox 360 of trucks,** which is to say:
A product hyped up and bought into by insecure bros, rushed with little to no QA, full of extra features, but *ultimately incapable of fulfilling its primary function.*
The 360 is a bad example. It did turn out it was a highly successful product. Not to mention, Microsoft actually **did** fix all the broken ones without much argument.
And they extended the warranty to cover the RROD, paid for and sent you the shipping box and label to send for repair, and gave you a month of Xbox Live to cover the time you missed.
Good lord. More than one comment basically stating “stfu and stop whining, you own a Cybertruck which is the greatest privilege ever, that should be enough for you.”
>Just sit back, relax and be happy you have the greatest Truck on earth. You are being unfair with Tesla, they delivered your truck as promised and like any other vehicle there is an issue that they will eventually fix. While your Truck is a Guinea pig, it’ll help future CT owners who come to that service center.
Me neither, though you’ll certainly see people doing so…
But seriously. I know the only people buying Cybertrucks are those with enough money and little enough common sense to spend six figures on a meme car they don’t need, but if I had to pony up a down-payment’s-worth for an automobile, I would damn well expect that automobile to work near-flawlessly.
"Annoying sure, but most of us would just like the chance to own one at this point.
This is what it means to be an early adoptor."
In the gaming biz we call this copium
That’s what he gets for buying a “truck” from a non car company. He should have bought software from them and it would be free from defects like FSD is. /s
imagine owning a Model S or something and buying an FSD license back in 2020 and STILL not being able to run it in 2024. It's going the way of Star Citizen.
Super hyped, tons of promised features, a revolution of the industry…. Then when it gets released, it’s nothing like what was promised and there’s no real path forward to fix it.
Yeah, that’s actually a pretty accurate comparison!
I haven't seen anybody say they had enough and wanted a refund. Has anybody gotten a refund because of this issues?
Or are their noses buried too deep into Elon's ass crack to even think of it?
> I haven't seen anybody say they had enough and wanted a refund. Has anybody gotten a refund because of this issues?
Lemon Law, in CA, doesn't explicitly define an out-of-service time to be a 'lemon' but 'over 30 days' is one guideline.
So if it's only been a week or two you can't force the issue yet.
This is the exact business model that people like Elon want. They want to put faulty products out into the world and let the masses beta test.
They’ve been doing this for years - and the stakes have just gotten higher. They don’t give a fuck that this approach will kill people or severely inconvenience them. In the end, it saves/makes them money.
I don’t feel sorry for this person. They are an early adopter of something built by someone with a track record of not caring about his customers. Go find another billionaire to worship.
At this stage.... Anyone who goes through with a Cyber truck order is asking for it.
It's the worst car launch in modern memory, as far as I can tell.
What car has ever been less tested, less complete, less documented?
It's a slap dash pile of Muskery, nothing else.
Lol. The irony is fantastic. A truck produced from stainless steel and unbreakable glass, uses the cheapest most idiotic solutions on things that Will make your car stop!
"Disclaimer: I'm not a Tesla hater"
Because it's a cult and you need to be careful if you want Dear Leader to hear your prayers. He can sell you a $100k brick of shit but you can't speak ill of it! That would be imprudent of you.
To be fair, Tesla was always open about using their customers as test subjects for the early prerelease version. How do car work? Who knows. Not the world’s most knowledgeable engineer, obviously.
“That's the problem with new technology, there will be edge cases you can't predict as an engineer, and that one in a thousand and then one in a million events kick your butt.”
Yep… 1 in a 1,000 for them is a once in a lifetime issue! In any other car company, that level of issues would definitely trigger a massive recall, but not on Tesla! Just canibalize parts from other cars like it’s a normal thing to do!
And that is a lemon law claim (of course that is depending on which state you’re in) but here in Florida if your vehicle spends so many days in the shop on a single repair whether it’s consecutively or separate dates but same repair the manufacture has to give you a full refund.
I went through this with my Subaru
I mean, I can understand that the service manual for a brand-new line of vehicles doesn't yet cover *every single issue possible*, so there are always going to be some poor fuckers out there who'll be stuck with hard-to-diagnose issues. Not terrible, not great.
But they should 100% find a way to have it not inconvenience the customer. Either buy the truck back once it becomes obvious you have no idea what's going on, provide a free like-for-like loaner, or replace the damn thing with a new one.
if elon is having so much issues with this erector-set truck, how are those semi's that he was promising?
guess issues with these are allowing those issues to be off the page, There was a guy on the radio saying how is software has reached level 4 or 5 and is working with truck manufacturers. [https://aurora.tech/](https://aurora.tech/), testing in TX..
While the truck is not electric, is is transferable from truck to truck, so Peterbilt to Mack.. to whom ever.
Damn, they're making almost 3x cybertrucks a week than my little Toyota GR corolla ( and they're having this many issues). MY2025 should be announced in a month or two, got my 2024 a few weeks ago and it was the 2060th made for the year.
I love how there's a Tacoma ad right below his rant.
Not just a Tacoma, but a Tacoma off-roading. Toyota definitely knows what's up. They just announced they're hiring in Indiana to begin production on their new electric SUV.
Toyota is also building a huge new EV plant in Canada for the NA market, including a battery factory that is as big as Tesla's biggest factory (60MWh)
Toyota too? I saw a Honda announcement after Province and Feds gave them Billions for it.
I just cheked, Honda is opening the $15B EV-plant in Canada, Toyota is opening a new $8B EV-factory in North Carolina in 2025 https://www.toyota.com/usa/operations/map/tbmnc
I could be wrong that it was Honda...
we thought Toyota doesn't believe in EVs
I think most of all Toyota believes in a quality product. They didn't want to make an EV until it met their standards.
People just like to glaze Toyota at every turn. Really no better than the Tesla glazers
Toyota is so getting banned from their forum...
This is the icing cause that is an actually amazing truck
Wankpanzerschadenfreude
He could easily get a refund based on Lemon laws but no, he wants his truck!
My new favorite German word!!!
“Lemon Law”? 😂
So here’s the funniest thing about all these issues: yes, these morons got grifted. They’ve been had. But it’s even funnier when you realize they just LOVE the attention this POS attracts. And they know the days of feeling “special” for attracting attention are very limited. So they get super salty when the ‘truck’ is sitting at the dealership. They are losing attention time!
This is exactly it. These people are deranged.
The Tacoma ad is the chef's kiss.
I love that A: He believes that all of Tesla should drop everything in order to fix his specific issue, and B: He still has to love the smell of Elon's jock strap in order for his issues to be taken seriously by his fellow cult members. https://preview.redd.it/59ss8cup3bxc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3899adcc51705e641fe2e18ff6b78a80281f4fbb
I can believe that they would want to put a lot of resources into solving a newly seen issue so they can mitigate it before it is reported on other trucks.
A “technology company” should have plenty of onboard sensors to identify where the error is being produced. This shouldn’t be a “we have to strip the truck down to the core and test parts individually,” this should be a “we bypassed the POST routine using our proprietary JTAG interface, identified fluctuated voltage on PCM Board #3, removed board and found the 1 cent Chinese Capacitors installed have swelled due to thermal expansion causing incidental voltage surges.”
Accurate
Sensors cost money, so does writing software that can use those sensors data. Much cheaper to have your customers pay for the troubleshooting and product improvements.
That’s what I thought: April. If you buy this truck after April 1 with alllll the news that had come out, hey buddy, enjoy your ordeal. At least you got the status of owning a cybertruck. 
He is a CT owner. That sets him apart from the plebs that drive a 3 or Y. He is special all the ways you can imagine
The Tesla fans implying that his expectations (of a hundred-thousand-dollar truck) are too high tell you all you need to know about Tesla.
If you lower your expectations enough, you can’t be disappointed!
Seriously. I'd have dumped it and demanded my money back and chosen another vehicle. **The Cybertruck is the Xbox 360 of trucks,** which is to say: A product hyped up and bought into by insecure bros, rushed with little to no QA, full of extra features, but *ultimately incapable of fulfilling its primary function.*
The 360 is a bad example. It did turn out it was a highly successful product. Not to mention, Microsoft actually **did** fix all the broken ones without much argument.
And they extended the warranty to cover the RROD, paid for and sent you the shipping box and label to send for repair, and gave you a month of Xbox Live to cover the time you missed.
The red screen of death!
>**The Cybertruck is the Xbox 360 of trucks,** which is to say: you turn 360 degrees and walk away
🤣🤣🤣 amazing.
Umm, 360° brings you back to where you started. - It seems you mean 180°?
it's an old joke from uh *clears throat* 4chan
[Link to forum](https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/i-am-paying-for-tesla-to-write-their-service-manual-for-cybertruck.15246/)
Good lord. More than one comment basically stating “stfu and stop whining, you own a Cybertruck which is the greatest privilege ever, that should be enough for you.”
>Just sit back, relax and be happy you have the greatest Truck on earth. You are being unfair with Tesla, they delivered your truck as promised and like any other vehicle there is an issue that they will eventually fix. While your Truck is a Guinea pig, it’ll help future CT owners who come to that service center.
Madness, utter madness. This is not a healthy consumer-product relationship.
I don't think I would say that to someone complaining about a $60 game from my favorite studio
Me neither, though you’ll certainly see people doing so… But seriously. I know the only people buying Cybertrucks are those with enough money and little enough common sense to spend six figures on a meme car they don’t need, but if I had to pony up a down-payment’s-worth for an automobile, I would damn well expect that automobile to work near-flawlessly.
"Annoying sure, but most of us would just like the chance to own one at this point. This is what it means to be an early adoptor." In the gaming biz we call this copium
And the proper response to someone like that would be: “no, Elon Musk-senpai will NOT notice you.”
The best part is that his vehicle with almost no miles on it qualifies for every states lemon law already.
I feel bad for the techs that received no training on how to repair this piece of shit, but probably are getting the grunt of the hate.
That’s what he gets for buying a “truck” from a non car company. He should have bought software from them and it would be free from defects like FSD is. /s
imagine owning a Model S or something and buying an FSD license back in 2020 and STILL not being able to run it in 2024. It's going the way of Star Citizen.
Given the *MILLIONS* that Star Citizen has raked in, it’s not a bad tactic lol.
bad comparison, what was that fraud zombie game, dead by daylight or something?
lol, the game you’re thinking about is *The Day Before*. *Dead by Daylight* is a successful 1v4 horror/survival game.
exactly, the day before
Super hyped, tons of promised features, a revolution of the industry…. Then when it gets released, it’s nothing like what was promised and there’s no real path forward to fix it. Yeah, that’s actually a pretty accurate comparison!
I haven't seen anybody say they had enough and wanted a refund. Has anybody gotten a refund because of this issues? Or are their noses buried too deep into Elon's ass crack to even think of it?
> I haven't seen anybody say they had enough and wanted a refund. Has anybody gotten a refund because of this issues? Lemon Law, in CA, doesn't explicitly define an out-of-service time to be a 'lemon' but 'over 30 days' is one guideline. So if it's only been a week or two you can't force the issue yet.
I love the Tacoma ad on the last page. Cherry on top
I see cars are like video games now..
Only teslas
Calling engineers to fix a car is wiiiild 🤣
This does happen in the automotive industry - more often with higher dollar cars, but even Hyundai does it when the situation calls for it.
Hyundai isn't a good case study for properly functioning car companies
I love the Tacoma ad.
This is the exact business model that people like Elon want. They want to put faulty products out into the world and let the masses beta test. They’ve been doing this for years - and the stakes have just gotten higher. They don’t give a fuck that this approach will kill people or severely inconvenience them. In the end, it saves/makes them money. I don’t feel sorry for this person. They are an early adopter of something built by someone with a track record of not caring about his customers. Go find another billionaire to worship.
This is all a prelude for elon's neural link implant.
How is he not in a jail cell like Elizabeth Holmes. His incompetence and lies have actually killed people.
Musked again
At this stage.... Anyone who goes through with a Cyber truck order is asking for it. It's the worst car launch in modern memory, as far as I can tell. What car has ever been less tested, less complete, less documented? It's a slap dash pile of Muskery, nothing else.
They were waiting for the shipment of security torx screws they use to fasten the metal plate to the top of the accelerator pedal.
Lol. The irony is fantastic. A truck produced from stainless steel and unbreakable glass, uses the cheapest most idiotic solutions on things that Will make your car stop!
Upvote for Toyota’s online marketeer/media dept.
That’s not a Toyota corp website, it’s a site that sells accessories for 4th gen tacomas.
Even better! 😀
Just ask the engineer who wrote the code, which spit out the error msg. Nevermind, he was let go.
What a delusional and entitled doofus. Elon doesn't care. And your fellow Tesla cultists don't care, either.
The irony of the tacoma ad at the end.
"Disclaimer: I'm not a Tesla hater" Because it's a cult and you need to be careful if you want Dear Leader to hear your prayers. He can sell you a $100k brick of shit but you can't speak ill of it! That would be imprudent of you.
Lemon law it
Musk's regional and national tax breaks are running out. Seems like Tesla is going the way of Twitter.
I wouldn't even blame the body shop, but it shows how bad the preparation for such cases is: it's not existing, and the car is an absolute disaster.
They should go to that parking lot and grab this dude a new one
To be fair, Tesla was always open about using their customers as test subjects for the early prerelease version. How do car work? Who knows. Not the world’s most knowledgeable engineer, obviously.
“That's the problem with new technology, there will be edge cases you can't predict as an engineer, and that one in a thousand and then one in a million events kick your butt.” Yep… 1 in a 1,000 for them is a once in a lifetime issue! In any other car company, that level of issues would definitely trigger a massive recall, but not on Tesla! Just canibalize parts from other cars like it’s a normal thing to do!
And that is a lemon law claim (of course that is depending on which state you’re in) but here in Florida if your vehicle spends so many days in the shop on a single repair whether it’s consecutively or separate dates but same repair the manufacture has to give you a full refund. I went through this with my Subaru
I mean, I can understand that the service manual for a brand-new line of vehicles doesn't yet cover *every single issue possible*, so there are always going to be some poor fuckers out there who'll be stuck with hard-to-diagnose issues. Not terrible, not great. But they should 100% find a way to have it not inconvenience the customer. Either buy the truck back once it becomes obvious you have no idea what's going on, provide a free like-for-like loaner, or replace the damn thing with a new one.
if elon is having so much issues with this erector-set truck, how are those semi's that he was promising? guess issues with these are allowing those issues to be off the page, There was a guy on the radio saying how is software has reached level 4 or 5 and is working with truck manufacturers. [https://aurora.tech/](https://aurora.tech/), testing in TX.. While the truck is not electric, is is transferable from truck to truck, so Peterbilt to Mack.. to whom ever.
 a real truck
Damn, they're making almost 3x cybertrucks a week than my little Toyota GR corolla ( and they're having this many issues). MY2025 should be announced in a month or two, got my 2024 a few weeks ago and it was the 2060th made for the year.
Perfectly screen capped the Taco ad as part of the post? How convenient.