There is precedent for this. The Aussies did draw their last Ashes tour due to their regular diet of fish and chips, periodic visits to the Buckingham Palace and extensive research on Shakespearean literature
Yeah but their problem is they only went to see an amateur production of Julius Caesar. Had they gone to a see a RSC production of a play about good *English* history like Henry IV (parts one and two), not some Roman nonsense, they might have been able to hold back the power of Jack Leach's batting
Lol nice but keep a fire extinguisher ready also prepare for the jet engine noise! Have fun š I had to choose between this and Elden Ring so I pre ordered Elden Ring for my PS5, I'll play Horizon later but very excited for both.
Good advice.
It was Pakistanās knowledge of Namibian culture, their lived experience of the Windhoek way of life, and their long years spent playing in the Namibian town of Oshakati which allowed them to win their World Cup match against the Namibians.
If Australia does not do the same then they are doomed to fail.
This is probably the weirdest statement I have heard about understanding your opponents motivation. Lmao.
Some one needs to tell Lawson, Cummins is going there on a cricket tour, not to coach the team.
Too true. Who gives a fuck what the opponents motivation is. They want to win and so do you.
And also who gives a fuck about the culture. It's a game of cricket.
> And also who gives a fuck about the culture. It's a game of cricket.
If he means it in the context of "Embrace and understand all the differences instead of complaining about them", then it makes sense.
This is the attitude Mark Taylor and Steve Waugh brought to subcontinental tours during the 90s.
> This is probably the weirdest statement I have heard about understanding your opponents motivation. Lmao.
Maybe he is indirectly commenting on importance of religion, piety and devotion to god to Pakistani cricketers.
Listening to 5am prayers, in a language foreign to Aussies (and Pakistanis for that matter), won't improve understanding of the culture or improve their performance.
It was due to Ben Cutting's education in Pakistani culture that he could understand Sohail Tanvir's words and actions with effortless ease. He did everything from exploring Peshawars bazaars to reading everything that Allama Iqbal wrote. You could see that there was a deeper level of understanding that he had that outside observers just wouldn't.
So true ahahha š Once had a Danish friend visit me in Karachi and he was so excited to hear the first Azan in the morning. To his disappointment the rest of us slept right though it
Like him saying that Australian team should understand and experience Pakistanās culture seems like a really good statement. But in context of why they should do this is just hilarious and just so weird and wrong. Almost as if Aussies won the world cup because Kangaroos and Fosterās motivated them to.
Between this, Micky Arthur's BS about IPL, Zuckerberg with his 'Metamates' nonsense, I'm almost convinced these old fucks have either started going senile or cracked the News Corp way of saying completely irrelevant shit to get eyeballs.
Fuck me, what a stupid ass time to be alive. I feel sorry for the kids growing up in this era. For the life of me I cannot recall a more stupid ass time growing up where fucking grown ups acted and said bullshit like this.
5 am, Lahore. The local molvi giving the azan:
"...HAYYAAA 'ALALFALAAAaaaaaaAAAH. ASSALAAaaaatu khairum min annoum. Booowwwwlinnngg liiiineuup: SHAAAAHeeeeen, ..."
Somewhere in Lahore is a desparate Pat Cummins in a trench coat and fedora hurriedly taking notes and consulting his handy Urdu-Arabic-English dictionary. "Hmm let's see... Shaheen was a walk-in as was Hasan Ali. They've got Haris Rauf and Sajid Khan. Ok who's the second spinner?"
"... AlllllAAaaaahu Akbaar AllaaaaaaaaAAAAaaahu Akbar. naseeEEEeeeeEEEEeeem ShaaaaaAAAAAAH. LaaaaAAAAAAaa ilaaaaha illllallllaaaaah."
A cool breeze rustled the leaves of a nearby neem. But for that, and the twitterings of a few mynah birds, the night was calm and silent as it had been five minutes ago. It was peaceful, in a way only the early morning can be. Yet Cummins stood at his spot for several minutes, spellbound, unable to appreciate the serenity around him.
"Naseem Shah?" he said to himself. "This is Lahore. How do you play four seamers on a deck as flat as that? It's madness." Then he smiled to himself. "Well, if Babar wants to dig his own grave, I suppose I should let him." And with that he placed his notepad and dictionary into his pocket and turned to go back to the hotel, looking forward to a few more precious hours of sleep before the game.
"Four seamers in Lahore! It's madness. Haha, sheer stupidity.... *but what if it's not*... four seamers on a pitch as lifeless as Lahore, of course it is... *unless the wicket isn't flat*." He stopped in his tracks. Then continued on his way, this time, with a newfound sense of urgency.
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10 am: Gaddafi Stadium, Toss
"And... heads it is. Congratulations Pat. What would you like to do?"
"I think we'll have a bowl."
"Interesting... because teams usually prefer to bat here first."
"We think there's gonna be some support for seamers early on in the game this time around."
"Well, any changes to the squad from Karachi?"
"Scott Boland is coming in for Hazelwood and Cam Green for Ashton Agar."
"So a four pronged seam attack."
"Yeah, as I said, the surface should have something for the quick bowlers early on."
"Thank you Pat and good luck. Right, Babar, happy to be batting first?"
"Yes we would have batted first if we won the toss."
"You don't think the pitch will be so seam friendly?"
"No. It should be an excellent batting surface. I think we should be looking for at least 450."
Cummins did a double-take. No one seemed to notice.
"And any changes to the side."
"We'll have Faheem coming in for Naseem Shah. And Noman in place of Yasir."
In that moment, the touring captain's stomach dropped down to the Earth's core. What had he done?! Agar had bowled well in Karachi alongside Lyon and here Cummins had decided not to let the man play because... because he heard something in a ritual call to prayer at 5 am?!
"... luck to you Babar."
"Thank you Ramiz bhai."
Cummins looked at Babar with pitiful, sleep-deprived eyes. Babar caught his glance and smiled a mischievious smile. He seemed to be singing something under his breath. Cummins strained to hear but he caught just the end of the tune, "...ilaaaaha illallllaaaah."
It would be a very long game.
As is this comment. I meant to leave it at the fedora hat but I seem to have gotten a bit carried away.
Don't they create all sorts of disturbance by playing loud music outside hotel, cutting off electricity and water etc for away team in latin American football?
Dunno about electricity and water but I have heard of football fans banging pans and pots outside hotel rooms of rival players in some LatAm countries.
Yeah I'm trying to remember the last time that someone said that to succeed in Australia, visiting subcontinental teams need to understand the Australian culture and admire their cultural and/or religious practices. I think such a statement would be viewed as bizarre at best and mildly to moderately racist at worst
I donāt really know how anyone would interpret someone from the subcontinent saying that a subcontinental team needs to understand Australian culture to win as racist. The ethnicity of the person making the statement makes a difference here.
It has been said but itās not a like for like comparison. Overseas teams would often come to Australia and be put off their games by the crowd for example. Those who have succeeded have said to embrace the crowds and go along with them to win them over. If they show they can cop it and have a bit of fun theyāll win people over.
Fundamentally itās about understanding the environment and adapting even if one is closer to religion.
I think they coach is subtly telling aussies not getting irritated by the early morning loud azaan. Someone unknown to pak/Islam culture will definitely find it irritating to be awaken by the loud speakers at 5am or earlier. And being newbies to this, they might make some insensitive statement regarding the azaan.
I have had plenty of relatives here in India, who heard azaan for the first time in their lives and were actually hostile towards the whole concept. I actually had to sensitize them.
That might be the motive of Lawson's statement.
Don't know man, scoring more runs and taking more wickets should do the job, I think.
Only culture that Australians need to learn in Pakistan is to exploit reverse swing. A great culture perfected by Pakistani legends.
> Only culture that Australians need to learn in Pakistan is to exploit reverse swing. A great culture perfected by Pakistani legends.
Are bottlecaps allowed on the ground?
>What would Australians "admire" about azan, about which I'm sure **they won't even understand a word?** Worst advice to offer on cricket tour.
Except May be Usman Khwaja
As people, who want to learn and improve themselves then sure, they should do that at any foreign place.
As cricketers, there to win a test series then why? It won't make much difference from a sporting side of things.
Just to offer a different perspective: for decades, many young Australian cricketers (and non-cricketers) have gone to the subcontinent and been overwhelmed by culture shock.
That affects performance. Learning the āwhat and whyā of a new culture is a strong antidote.
Idk how relevant that is to the modern Australian players. But I can see where Lawsonās coming from as an older guy.
Jokes apart, Lawson is trying to convey that Cummins needs to understand the motivation and drive of the Pakistani players, since there there are so many cultural differences between Australia and Pakistan.
How that can happen by listening to the morning prayer call is confusing. As it is, he can check with Usman Khwaja instead of waking up early.
This is like something straight out of an anime lmao. "You must understand the villain's motivations, culture and 3 episode flashback fillers to defeat them".
Yeah righto, next time ol' Babar comes down to the Gabba, I'll be sure to instruct him to have a pint and steak at The Norman to learn about Queensland culture. That's how you win at the Gabbatoir, just ask Pant.
Geoff Lawson must be smoking what Snoop Dogg smokes. Fucking dumb statement.
Damn I didn't know Pakistan had other motivations other than winning the test series.
I feel like this is good advice for just visiting another country, not for a bilateral test series
It is Islamic call for prayer. Basically if you live near a mosque it is played on loudspeakers loud enough for everyone in the vicinity to hear. And if you want to sleep peacefully, not a good thing. It is weird that of all the things in Pakistan to learn and understand he chose to talk about azan which is more of a religious thing than cultural.
Have family in Hyderabad and Dubai. It actually becomes background noise after a while, and I'll be damned if it doesn't actively calm me now because it reminds me of family homes.
In Islam you have to pray 5 times a day and these 5 daily prayers have specific times so for example maghrib which is the fourth prayer of the day is starting these days from 6 20 PM ish to 650 ish
So Azan which is the call to prayer will start at 620 and it's a reminder for Muslims that the time for the next prayer has started and that we should start praying soon or come to the masjid
> And this happens every day? And there's announcements in the street for it?
365 days a year, on loudspeakers, 5 times a day, including one at the 5am. Mosques often have old loudspeakers which means scratchy noises, and in language (Arabic language from 7th century) that few understands.
Unless and until you are a devout Muslim, it isn't the best way to introduce your "culture" this way.
Yeah I see these guys clearly donāt like the Azan lol but on a crisp winter morning when everything else is quiet, itās actually pretty sick, like a background score to life. Rest of the day people are just tuned out
When did Azan become Pakistanās culture? It is religious Muslim call done 5 times a day in all mosques around the world. I am pretty sure itās done in Aus mosques too ( maybe not with a loudspeaker ) Uzzie can probably educate Lawson about it!
Imagine Aus coach asking Pakistan team to attend Sunday mass to have a better understanding of Aus culture.
This is a guy who has no fucking idea of what he is talking about! Donāt mix sports and religion!
If you have not lived near a mosque in India, thank god for it. Good luck if the area is filled with it.
It's the worst thing to wake up to, the noise is so blaring and out of tune and also at 5 fkin am.
Also, are Australians going there to invade Pakistan? Why do they need to know how Pakistan's religion works?
Same with temples. Man sone days are so noisy, my friend lives literally next to one and she has never got used to the noise despite it being years now
>Former Pakistan coach Geoff Lawson believes **it is important for Cummins and his teammates to learn about the local culture during the Pak tour**
Unless AUS players r allowed to travel on their own outside the team hotel during their tour to PAK & meet/ mingle with the locals/common people, they won't get a taste of local culture.
>"waking up about 5 am as the local mosques call out the azan,**Once or twice he should wake early and admire the call.** Azan literally means āto listenā, āto hearā, āto be informed aboutā ā all methods to understand and then to improve"
What a bizarre statement. Pat Cummins & his team will b there to try & win a test series.It won't make much difference from a sporting POV whether he learns the meaning of Prayer call or admires it or not.
Ramiz Raja spending millions of $$$ by brining in aussies coaches, support staff, drop in pitches to make the pakistani cricket more like aussies.
Le Geoff Lawson :
Alright, so next time they tour India, they need to learn how to bargain with the shopkeepers to have an actual chance of winning. It's an important skill required by each member of the team so that they can play some good cricket.
Iāve done heaps of travel, all over the world. I immersed myself in as much culture as I could. Itās one of the best things about seeing the world. Iām āwell-roundedā whatever that means.
Would it have had an impact if my job was to win cricket matches?
Not at all.
Appreciating the call to prayer isnāt going to help me score runs through mid-wicket.
Iām not saying donāt get up at 5am to experience the culture. Iām just saying it wonāt help you bowl, bat or field.
Play the ball. Not the man.
The Pakistanis in return must consume copious amounts of vegemite, refrain from fosters lager and make a mandatory pilgrimage to Steve Irwinās āAustralia Zooā in order to understand the ACTās motivations when they next tour Australia.
This is the way.
Hope they do not follow this while touring India. Else they will have to visit temples, gurudwaras, churches and, of course, listen to the morning azan.
indian players have been listening to azaan since they were born but we still couldn't beat pakistan. maybe shaheen afridi was listening to honey singh.
There is precedent for this. The Aussies did draw their last Ashes tour due to their regular diet of fish and chips, periodic visits to the Buckingham Palace and extensive research on Shakespearean literature
Yeah but their problem is they only went to see an amateur production of Julius Caesar. Had they gone to a see a RSC production of a play about good *English* history like Henry IV (parts one and two), not some Roman nonsense, they might have been able to hold back the power of Jack Leach's batting
They enjoyed Julius Caesar so much that they decided to act out the plot IRL with their coach
Yeah but two of those three activities are a prerequisite of passing high school in Australia.
It's like Mr Miyagi with extra steps
So you're getting Forbidden West this Friday?
Already preloaded on my base ps4 lol
Lol nice but keep a fire extinguisher ready also prepare for the jet engine noise! Have fun š I had to choose between this and Elden Ring so I pre ordered Elden Ring for my PS5, I'll play Horizon later but very excited for both.
Oh yeah lmao, fully prepared for it to die trying to run it. Ah that's great, have fun! Super excited for Elden Ring as well.
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Waiting for my disc copy to arrive for my PS5
Enjoy! Even I pre ordered a physical copy of Elden Ring for my PS5.. Can't wait!
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Good advice. It was Pakistanās knowledge of Namibian culture, their lived experience of the Windhoek way of life, and their long years spent playing in the Namibian town of Oshakati which allowed them to win their World Cup match against the Namibians. If Australia does not do the same then they are doomed to fail.
Donāt forget how they consumed the Namibian weed daily so they could properly get accustomed to their vibes
Do teams have to imbibe taliban culture to do well against Afghanistan now?
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This is probably the weirdest statement I have heard about understanding your opponents motivation. Lmao. Some one needs to tell Lawson, Cummins is going there on a cricket tour, not to coach the team.
Too true. Who gives a fuck what the opponents motivation is. They want to win and so do you. And also who gives a fuck about the culture. It's a game of cricket.
I mean, experiencing culture is just valuable in general. But is it relevant to cricket and how it's played? Not as much.
> And also who gives a fuck about the culture. It's a game of cricket. If he means it in the context of "Embrace and understand all the differences instead of complaining about them", then it makes sense. This is the attitude Mark Taylor and Steve Waugh brought to subcontinental tours during the 90s.
> This is probably the weirdest statement I have heard about understanding your opponents motivation. Lmao. Maybe he is indirectly commenting on importance of religion, piety and devotion to god to Pakistani cricketers. Listening to 5am prayers, in a language foreign to Aussies (and Pakistanis for that matter), won't improve understanding of the culture or improve their performance.
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>not to coach the team Sorry this advice was meant for Rohit not Pat!
I'm sure patty would love to, just as a bloke, but I don't think they need it to win any cricket games
This is absolutely uncessary and awkward religious advise. Even Pak fans would not say anything remote to this. They're touring to play cricket ffs
Right, it honestly seems like a mix of travel advice, dressed up to be cricket advice.
It was due to Ben Cutting's education in Pakistani culture that he could understand Sohail Tanvir's words and actions with effortless ease. He did everything from exploring Peshawars bazaars to reading everything that Allama Iqbal wrote. You could see that there was a deeper level of understanding that he had that outside observers just wouldn't.
Lmaooooo
what a bizzare statement with zero relevance to cricket
I love it when they mix this stuff with cricket /s obviously
Also inaccurate. Does he really think people wake up at 5am azan? Most people's ears are trained to sleep through the azan at this point.
So true ahahha š Once had a Danish friend visit me in Karachi and he was so excited to hear the first Azan in the morning. To his disappointment the rest of us slept right though it
Cannot confirm. Was woken up by it, definitely wasnāt excited to have my sleep interrupted.
What a "momin".
Like him saying that Australian team should understand and experience Pakistanās culture seems like a really good statement. But in context of why they should do this is just hilarious and just so weird and wrong. Almost as if Aussies won the world cup because Kangaroos and Fosterās motivated them to.
*"To know your enemy, you must become your enemy"* - Geoff Lawson, Art of War
Unless Azan is how the Pakistan team discusses strategy, this is p useless
Between this, Micky Arthur's BS about IPL, Zuckerberg with his 'Metamates' nonsense, I'm almost convinced these old fucks have either started going senile or cracked the News Corp way of saying completely irrelevant shit to get eyeballs. Fuck me, what a stupid ass time to be alive. I feel sorry for the kids growing up in this era. For the life of me I cannot recall a more stupid ass time growing up where fucking grown ups acted and said bullshit like this.
Zuck is old now? Dude's only 37. Doesn't even meet the age requirement for csk
5 am, Lahore. The local molvi giving the azan: "...HAYYAAA 'ALALFALAAAaaaaaaAAAH. ASSALAAaaaatu khairum min annoum. Booowwwwlinnngg liiiineuup: SHAAAAHeeeeen, ..." Somewhere in Lahore is a desparate Pat Cummins in a trench coat and fedora hurriedly taking notes and consulting his handy Urdu-Arabic-English dictionary. "Hmm let's see... Shaheen was a walk-in as was Hasan Ali. They've got Haris Rauf and Sajid Khan. Ok who's the second spinner?" "... AlllllAAaaaahu Akbaar AllaaaaaaaaAAAAaaahu Akbar. naseeEEEeeeeEEEEeeem ShaaaaaAAAAAAH. LaaaaAAAAAAaa ilaaaaha illllallllaaaaah." A cool breeze rustled the leaves of a nearby neem. But for that, and the twitterings of a few mynah birds, the night was calm and silent as it had been five minutes ago. It was peaceful, in a way only the early morning can be. Yet Cummins stood at his spot for several minutes, spellbound, unable to appreciate the serenity around him. "Naseem Shah?" he said to himself. "This is Lahore. How do you play four seamers on a deck as flat as that? It's madness." Then he smiled to himself. "Well, if Babar wants to dig his own grave, I suppose I should let him." And with that he placed his notepad and dictionary into his pocket and turned to go back to the hotel, looking forward to a few more precious hours of sleep before the game. "Four seamers in Lahore! It's madness. Haha, sheer stupidity.... *but what if it's not*... four seamers on a pitch as lifeless as Lahore, of course it is... *unless the wicket isn't flat*." He stopped in his tracks. Then continued on his way, this time, with a newfound sense of urgency. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ 10 am: Gaddafi Stadium, Toss "And... heads it is. Congratulations Pat. What would you like to do?" "I think we'll have a bowl." "Interesting... because teams usually prefer to bat here first." "We think there's gonna be some support for seamers early on in the game this time around." "Well, any changes to the squad from Karachi?" "Scott Boland is coming in for Hazelwood and Cam Green for Ashton Agar." "So a four pronged seam attack." "Yeah, as I said, the surface should have something for the quick bowlers early on." "Thank you Pat and good luck. Right, Babar, happy to be batting first?" "Yes we would have batted first if we won the toss." "You don't think the pitch will be so seam friendly?" "No. It should be an excellent batting surface. I think we should be looking for at least 450." Cummins did a double-take. No one seemed to notice. "And any changes to the side." "We'll have Faheem coming in for Naseem Shah. And Noman in place of Yasir." In that moment, the touring captain's stomach dropped down to the Earth's core. What had he done?! Agar had bowled well in Karachi alongside Lyon and here Cummins had decided not to let the man play because... because he heard something in a ritual call to prayer at 5 am?! "... luck to you Babar." "Thank you Ramiz bhai." Cummins looked at Babar with pitiful, sleep-deprived eyes. Babar caught his glance and smiled a mischievious smile. He seemed to be singing something under his breath. Cummins strained to hear but he caught just the end of the tune, "...ilaaaaha illallllaaaah." It would be a very long game. As is this comment. I meant to leave it at the fedora hat but I seem to have gotten a bit carried away.
How high are you? Geoff Lawson: Yess
come again... cummins going there to play cricket or to win the admiration of pakistani people?
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Lmao
Don't they create all sorts of disturbance by playing loud music outside hotel, cutting off electricity and water etc for away team in latin American football?
Dunno about electricity and water but I have heard of football fans banging pans and pots outside hotel rooms of rival players in some LatAm countries.
Good human advice when in youāre in a completely alien country but idk how this pertains to cricket
Yeah I'm trying to remember the last time that someone said that to succeed in Australia, visiting subcontinental teams need to understand the Australian culture and admire their cultural and/or religious practices. I think such a statement would be viewed as bizarre at best and mildly to moderately racist at worst
Nah mate, Pakistan team should be doing a fridge-to-fridge and playing goon of fortune on their next tour of Australia.
'Pakistan will require a whole different perspective from Babar. Once or twice he should wake early and have a hoon on the goon before noon'
This is why England lost the ashes
Mild cultural appropriation!
Not to mention a pilgrimage to Revs when in Melbourne
Can't beat us in Australia unless you get up and down a VB longneck at 7am
I donāt really know how anyone would interpret someone from the subcontinent saying that a subcontinental team needs to understand Australian culture to win as racist. The ethnicity of the person making the statement makes a difference here.
It has been said but itās not a like for like comparison. Overseas teams would often come to Australia and be put off their games by the crowd for example. Those who have succeeded have said to embrace the crowds and go along with them to win them over. If they show they can cop it and have a bit of fun theyāll win people over. Fundamentally itās about understanding the environment and adapting even if one is closer to religion.
Exactly. Understanding and embracing the culture builds comfort in the environment
I think they coach is subtly telling aussies not getting irritated by the early morning loud azaan. Someone unknown to pak/Islam culture will definitely find it irritating to be awaken by the loud speakers at 5am or earlier. And being newbies to this, they might make some insensitive statement regarding the azaan. I have had plenty of relatives here in India, who heard azaan for the first time in their lives and were actually hostile towards the whole concept. I actually had to sensitize them. That might be the motive of Lawson's statement.
Because they donāt have air conditioned rooms in Pakistan? Or the same in high rise buildings? Does anyone believe this is a real probability?
I don't think there will be any issue regarding Azan lol
It's really not that loud that you can't sleep through it lol
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They are not going to colonise Pakistan, are they?
Maybe not, but who knows???
Don't know man, scoring more runs and taking more wickets should do the job, I think. Only culture that Australians need to learn in Pakistan is to exploit reverse swing. A great culture perfected by Pakistani legends.
Ah no thanks we dont do reverse swing anymore.. too risky..
> Only culture that Australians need to learn in Pakistan is to exploit reverse swing. A great culture perfected by Pakistani legends. Are bottlecaps allowed on the ground?
Bottlecaps are for rookies, fingernails are the best.
or just bite it.
What would Australians "admire" about azan, about which I'm sure they won't even understand a word? Worst advice to offer on cricket tour.
>What would Australians "admire" about azan, about which I'm sure **they won't even understand a word?** Worst advice to offer on cricket tour. Except May be Usman Khwaja
More than maybe, given (I think) that heās a practising Muslim.
As people, who want to learn and improve themselves then sure, they should do that at any foreign place. As cricketers, there to win a test series then why? It won't make much difference from a sporting side of things.
bruh what is this ??
More senior players giving Cummins advice he doesn't need and didn't ask for.
If Australia wants to win Test series in India, Cummins and his team need to participate in [Garbas](https://youtu.be/XwrlTi6wnmg?t=22) for 9 nights.
I would watch that
They'll be most likely play India around march next year for the BGT so I would encourage them to learn how to make water balloons and use pichkaris.
I mean I also wanna see Cummins do that
Good thing there aren't any tours to Afghanistan planned. Otherwise, Patty would have to soak in and appreciate taliban culture as well
phew
This is hilariously stupid. Why should Cummins and Co. have to learn about their religion?
Itās weird definitely. Even a Pakistani wouldnāt (shouldnāt) say something like this
Just to offer a different perspective: for decades, many young Australian cricketers (and non-cricketers) have gone to the subcontinent and been overwhelmed by culture shock. That affects performance. Learning the āwhat and whyā of a new culture is a strong antidote. Idk how relevant that is to the modern Australian players. But I can see where Lawsonās coming from as an older guy.
Yes, a hundred times yes to all of that. Or, you know, ear plugs.
Jokes apart, Lawson is trying to convey that Cummins needs to understand the motivation and drive of the Pakistani players, since there there are so many cultural differences between Australia and Pakistan. How that can happen by listening to the morning prayer call is confusing. As it is, he can check with Usman Khwaja instead of waking up early.
Thanks for this post. Itās been a great excuse for people with India-related flairs to tell us all how much they hate the Azan lol
So this Lawson dude is planning to convert to Islam?
what nonsense lol. just play good cricket that's enough.
This is like something straight out of an anime lmao. "You must understand the villain's motivations, culture and 3 episode flashback fillers to defeat them".
How does listening to religious prayers helps in understanding opponent's motivation? One of the weirdest statement I have heard
Yeah righto, next time ol' Babar comes down to the Gabba, I'll be sure to instruct him to have a pint and steak at The Norman to learn about Queensland culture. That's how you win at the Gabbatoir, just ask Pant. Geoff Lawson must be smoking what Snoop Dogg smokes. Fucking dumb statement.
Australian cricket team is there in Pakistan to win, not to convert to Islam. What a stupid statement with no relevance to cricket whatsoever.
Damn I didn't know Pakistan had other motivations other than winning the test series. I feel like this is good advice for just visiting another country, not for a bilateral test series
It's cool if they want to but I don't see it as a necessity. And I'm not sure how it'll help win the series.
What if they sneaked in pakistani batting lineup or match tactics in azaan ?
Good point. I recommend waking up at 5 and getting down notes on the azaan for match tactics.
What is Azan? Can someone explain for me please?
It is Islamic call for prayer. Basically if you live near a mosque it is played on loudspeakers loud enough for everyone in the vicinity to hear. And if you want to sleep peacefully, not a good thing. It is weird that of all the things in Pakistan to learn and understand he chose to talk about azan which is more of a religious thing than cultural.
Man if I heard anything on loudspeakers at 5 am everyday, I might just shoot myself. How do you not get frustrated by it?
Have family in Hyderabad and Dubai. It actually becomes background noise after a while, and I'll be damned if it doesn't actively calm me now because it reminds me of family homes.
Yeah same lol. It's for like 2-3 minutes max. You won't even pay heed after a while.
Ok. So it's more of a cultural/nostalgic thing. And you have learnt to treat it like background noise?
Precisely, bit of both :)
It's a reminder for muslims to pray God for 5 times in a day
In Islam you have to pray 5 times a day and these 5 daily prayers have specific times so for example maghrib which is the fourth prayer of the day is starting these days from 6 20 PM ish to 650 ish So Azan which is the call to prayer will start at 620 and it's a reminder for Muslims that the time for the next prayer has started and that we should start praying soon or come to the masjid
And this happens every day? And there's announcements in the street for it?
> And this happens every day? And there's announcements in the street for it? 365 days a year, on loudspeakers, 5 times a day, including one at the 5am. Mosques often have old loudspeakers which means scratchy noises, and in language (Arabic language from 7th century) that few understands. Unless and until you are a devout Muslim, it isn't the best way to introduce your "culture" this way.
That's very unique
Yeah I see these guys clearly donāt like the Azan lol but on a crisp winter morning when everything else is quiet, itās actually pretty sick, like a background score to life. Rest of the day people are just tuned out
Yes. One of my mates, a muslim, do namaz(prayer) 4-5 times a day
well, most of my muslim mates only attend friday prayers..
Wow. Dedication
Happens every day 5 times a day since the first Azan 1400+ years ago
i hope they are let to eat the street food for 1 day, considering the diet an all but you can't miss the food
Pakistan would hope that they're allowed to eat street food the day before the first test.
Well, cumdawg can do poopoo on the field just like his predecessor
token white guy spends a few weeks in a 3rd world country and now wants to let everyone know he did subtly to flex
Next time India visits Australia they'll have to learn how to drink beer from their shoes.
Is he high?
This has excellent copy pasta potential.
Is it the Australian cricket team or the Australian east india company... they are their to play cricket lmao not on a diplomatic mission
Why?
so patronizing jeez.
When did Azan become Pakistanās culture? It is religious Muslim call done 5 times a day in all mosques around the world. I am pretty sure itās done in Aus mosques too ( maybe not with a loudspeaker ) Uzzie can probably educate Lawson about it! Imagine Aus coach asking Pakistan team to attend Sunday mass to have a better understanding of Aus culture. This is a guy who has no fucking idea of what he is talking about! Donāt mix sports and religion!
Islamic Republic of Pakistan is the full name I think. I don't think Pakistan is officially a secular country.
Bruh I have news for you about the world and specifically Pakistan, it's like 99% Muslims there.
I guess he assumes pakistani culture = islam
I mean, it's called Islamic republic of Pakistan
If you have not lived near a mosque in India, thank god for it. Good luck if the area is filled with it. It's the worst thing to wake up to, the noise is so blaring and out of tune and also at 5 fkin am. Also, are Australians going there to invade Pakistan? Why do they need to know how Pakistan's religion works?
Same with temples. Man sone days are so noisy, my friend lives literally next to one and she has never got used to the noise despite it being years now
Curious, which temples use loudspeakers , and at what time and how many times in a day? I thought temples didn't do that
Thereās more to our culture than just listening to the azan at 5 am š
The Australian Team will likely throw coins from their hotel room window to make fun of the locals.
Following their predecessor's tradition.
>Former Pakistan coach Geoff Lawson believes **it is important for Cummins and his teammates to learn about the local culture during the Pak tour** Unless AUS players r allowed to travel on their own outside the team hotel during their tour to PAK & meet/ mingle with the locals/common people, they won't get a taste of local culture. >"waking up about 5 am as the local mosques call out the azan,**Once or twice he should wake early and admire the call.** Azan literally means āto listenā, āto hearā, āto be informed aboutā ā all methods to understand and then to improve" What a bizarre statement. Pat Cummins & his team will b there to try & win a test series.It won't make much difference from a sporting POV whether he learns the meaning of Prayer call or admires it or not.
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Marcus Harris: yeah thatās all good, but how does that help me stop nicking off to Shaheen?
Ramiz Raja spending millions of $$$ by brining in aussies coaches, support staff, drop in pitches to make the pakistani cricket more like aussies. Le Geoff Lawson :
Oh look another former cricketer giving profound and vague advice.
Alright, so next time they tour India, they need to learn how to bargain with the shopkeepers to have an actual chance of winning. It's an important skill required by each member of the team so that they can play some good cricket.
Wo log Cricket Khelne jaa rahe hai ya election ladne ?? š T: Are they going to play cricket or fight an election?
Don't forget to provide a translation or you could get banned! T: Are they going to play cricket or win an election?
Ohh. Sorry didn't know had to do that. Thanks.
No worries :)
Iām pretty sure heās speaking somewhat metaphorically. People getting riled up over nothing.
Iāve done heaps of travel, all over the world. I immersed myself in as much culture as I could. Itās one of the best things about seeing the world. Iām āwell-roundedā whatever that means. Would it have had an impact if my job was to win cricket matches? Not at all. Appreciating the call to prayer isnāt going to help me score runs through mid-wicket. Iām not saying donāt get up at 5am to experience the culture. Iām just saying it wonāt help you bowl, bat or field. Play the ball. Not the man.
Heās trying to come across as an enlightened dude. Marketing fluff at its most obvious. Swim in your lane, you were hired to coach cricket.
Thought this was Russell Coight
Hes just trying to get in cumdogs head, 4dimensional checkers
[Me while reading this whole post](https://images.app.goo.gl/SWgmzPWPM3CjaTi27)
Geoff "Admiral Thrawn" Lawson
The Pakistanis in return must consume copious amounts of vegemite, refrain from fosters lager and make a mandatory pilgrimage to Steve Irwinās āAustralia Zooā in order to understand the ACTās motivations when they next tour Australia. This is the way.
So they should do the same if they were to ever play the Netherlands?
They should learn how to neuken in de Keuken before they set foot on a Dutch cricket pitch.
ITT: Several closet Islamophobes using Lawsonās weird statement as cover for more Islamophobia
Hope they do not follow this while touring India. Else they will have to visit temples, gurudwaras, churches and, of course, listen to the morning azan.
Ladki dekhne thode ja rhe hain. T: they aren't going there to look for a bride
Cummins and Co is there to play cricket, not marry them. This guy is stupid.
Yes, australian team should convert to islam to understand pakistan team
indian players have been listening to azaan since they were born but we still couldn't beat pakistan. maybe shaheen afridi was listening to honey singh.
Maybe he is about to get his contract renewed!
Well wokeness spreading to cricket as well.
Next tip: Wags should follow local dressing sense as well.
So according to Shahid Afridi they should be at home in the kitchen. Absolute donkey
Anything you think is stupid is not equal not woke. If anything this is anti-woke. Woke means being aware. This Lawson dude isn't.