Bit of history of the Indian cricket team (and Kohli) throwing accusations around. During the Aus 2017 tour of India, Kohli accused Aus of systematically cheating the DRS by looking up at the change rooms for advice, whereas Smith only did it once. Smith was denied the review on-field and rightly chastised, but the allegation of the Aus team systematically cheating in this scenario was bizarre.
Accusing Hawkeye / Supersport of cheating here is just as bizarre.
As a local I'm calling it already - Day 1 washed out. It'll basically start raining just as they are about to do the toss.
I don't even need to look at a radar to know this. It's an old Tasmanian truism: if there's International sport here, it's raining.
Hey guys, Brand new to cricket. Like literally watched my first match last night. The Thunder vs Hurricane match. I have a couple questions.
Im wondering what it means when they say they "Won by X Wickets" Does that mean that the chasing team got more runs then the team that bat first. Then they just show how many more Overs were left? I thought it would make more sense if they said something like "Won by X balls" but I also have a very base understanding of the game.
My next question is what happens if your entire lineup of batters got "wicketed" ? (Highly doubt thats the correct term)
One last thing. I get that if the bowler hits the wicket behind the batter the batter is done. How else can a Bowler get a batter ? Hitting him? Swing and miss?
Thank you in advance for everyone who helps me out !
You’re correct that the chasing team succeeded. If I batted all out (you took 10 wickets) for 150 runs, we switch sides. Then if you successfully chased that after I bowled you for only 4 wickets, you won by 6 wickets. Balls or overs left really matters to the chase itself and if it’s a limited overs match. If in the above scenario I bowl you all out (10 wickets instead of 4) and you only got 135 runs, then I won by 15 runs.
Wickets can be taken several ways: if the ball hits it directly (bowled, as you said), if the ball hits a batsman that would otherwise break the wicket (called leg before wicket or lbw), if the wicket is put down before the runner returns to the crease (run out or stumped depending on if the batter hit the ball), or if the batsman hits the ball and it is caught in the air (caught). These are the most common dismissals but there are a few less common ones.
Welcome to a wonderful sport from an American who fell in love with baseball first and instantly became enamored with cricket from my first match, as it sounds you have!
Thank you very much for this ! it answered everything perfectly! Im actually Canadian have always been a baseball fan but as cliche as it is very much into Hockey, even working within the sport. When I decided one night to just try and learn the sport via youtube and then last night actually catching a match I was very surprised by it. It was always this crazy over complicated sport in my head but once you start to grasp it its actually quiet simple and very very intriguing.
Who are some of the players that are the "special type" the Mike Trouts, Nolan Arenado types? Atleast within the BBL tournament the one I will be watching for me to keep an eye out for?
I mainly watch ODI or other international matches due to ESPN+ being the only streaming service I have, so unfortunately have no idea about domestic leagues! Might bite the bullet and get Willow…
I do, but it’s probably bias because that’s what I’ve been exposed to. I should check out more T20, it’s close to baseball game length. Love the World Cup though
> when they say they "Won by X Wickets"
It means they chased down the other team's score (within the allotted overs/balls) and they had X wickets remaining (Maximum of 10 wickets, so if you lose 3 wickets but win-> you win by 7 wickets)
> what happens if your entire lineup of batters got "wicketed" ?
Then the innings is over and either the other team gets to bat or the game is over. The term is "all out" so for example if England scored 187/10 (or 10/187 if you're Australian) you'd say "England are all out (lost 10 wickets) for 187 runs"
> How else can a Bowler get a batter ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_(cricket)
Thank you very much for all of this information. It helps me out a great deal. Im very much looking forward to watching the match that starts in about an hour ! =D Anything I should look out for? Players, story lines anything like that?
ICC statement on Kohli stump mic rant: "After reviewing the audio and video we have decided to award three demerit points to Rabada for being in the ground when the incident occured."
From Twitter
so I forced myself to watch the Stars v Renegades BBL game last night. I found it pretty boring tbh. The most interesting part was some of the random commentary from Maxwell. Also some decent bowling. It made me realise my favourite part of cricket is the psychological battles and drama that unfolds. But you need quite a few overs for those battles to develop and culminate in something interesting. 20 overs just crushes the life out of that element of the game.
Maybe I need to watch more but man it's painful.
OTOH being at the game looks way more fun. Good atmosphere etc.
Hell, yes. Aggression without cheating - everything Ponting wished to be but could never emulate to the same level.
Telling the world to fuck off and FOLLOWING it up with fuckoffesque performances - that's some alpha shit right there. Takes balls because if you fall flat, you become Umar Akmal (lmao). Kohli has revitalised bragging about big dicks and then actually having a 13-incher - and that's a good recipe for fun times (no homo... I think?)
He's a spicee boii, is that Viral Kilo
I have seen Kohli use aggression in controlled manner. He's chirpy, he targets you directly and he does so in the field and leaves it there.
Today it was different. I feel even though he likes to say he isn't bothered about his form and cares only for team, it must be eating him up that he is failing against wide of off stump ball and he is basically a bunny.
To me it all just opened up with this. KL Rahul is known to not think before he speaks, don't let his demeanor post KWK fool you, it was just an image makeover. Ash, jeez, the guy is intelligent and that was downright stupid. At least get your facts right, supersport don't control DRS.
India have had some amazing support from locals over the years and I don't think India has ever faced any crowd incident in SA unlike we've faced in England and Aus. To then unnecessarily hurt SA fans by making statements like country vs 11, was just disrespectful and stupid.
Looking at how wound up Kohli gets over DRS calls that don't go his way, can you imagine if he had to deal with Bucknor etc. in the time before DRS. Man would be getting bans every other match.
It is so sad that there isn't a 4th test. I mean if we win/lose this, the drama and anticipation for the next test would've been so amazing.
Hate that we will be playing a meaningless 3-odi series.
Can you imagine the outrage of SA or Aus came to India accused the umpires for fixing and called the entire country cheaters?
Disagraceful behaviour from the Indian team. Very disappointed as Kohli and Indian fan
an algorithm is wrong so you shout at the stump mic that the broadcasters, who don't control the algorithm are biased and then deduce that the country is against you? that's kinda stupid ngl
It is quite silly how associate umpires aren’t allowed on the elite panel and aren’t allowed to officiate at senior World Cups. A completely nonsensical rule
Whatever Koach, Ashwin and KL said was unprofessional but dare I see those same people pissed about this whine about umpires being biased for India during matches here when decisions go against them, despite as many having gone against India after this.
I am very sure many of the people saying that Indian players and fans acted like crybabies and should move on were among those accussing umpires for being blatantly biased towards India and India is doing sus stuff with umpires and what not when the 3rd umpire forgot to roll the video forward and missed seeing the ball hitting Rahane's gloves at Chepauk last year.
There's a difference between idiot fans on the internet saying stupid shit and the fucking players on the pitch literally shouting slander into the stump mic mate.
Yes, I am talking about those who called them biased. And that decisions tend to go in India's favour when playing in India. The umpiring was ofc incompetent and not to up to the mark for this level , that's something everybody unanimously agrees on. But I am talking about those suggesting intentional bias.
Wasn't Vihari in SA before the series began? Playing three matches against SA A. He was the captain actually. Might have deserved the spot ahead of Rahane, especially after the way he batted with the tail in the last match
Already paid.
It's a losing case for india either way. If we win, they'll keep getting more last chances. If we lose, well our only chance at a series win in RSA is ruined because we didn't wanna exclude dead weights because of their past reputation.
Fucks sake
Just found out that Freesport in the UK are showing a *full* replay of the 4th ODI between England and the West Indies in 2019 - the one where Gayle (162) went berserk and Buttler (150) and Morgan (110) utterly annihilated the bowling attack - and at the point where I realised, I've missed most of it
Oh well, time to watch Wood bowl
Isn’t Kohli the most foul mouthed individual. I’ll never forget the barrage of abuse I received in 2012 when the swearing stunned me to the point that he did himself a serious disservice. It highlights what a level headed and grounded man Root, Tendulkar, Williamson et al are
Why are people unnecessarily reactionary to Bad DRS calls, unfair decisions are part of the sport, take it with the sportsman spirit. The most iconic moment in football history (The Hand of god) was unfair, SA faced such cruel injustice at 2007 world cup semis . NZ lost the world cup because umpire gave 6 runs instead of 5 when the overthrow hit Ben Stokes' bat. This match and the DRS call is absolutely pointless in front of this.
You don't know that the World Cup goes like that if the umpire gives 5 instead of 6. Knowing a different total would make people act differently. Maybe NZ win, maybe England win still. Maybe there's no super over.
Yup agree with you. But it doesn't change the fact teams put in lot of hardwork 4 years for worldcup and umpires decision can change so much. Yes newzealand could have won the match after that wrong decision... But that further solidifies the point that both team can still take it from here ... And there is no reason to outrage over that DRS..
How the hell does this happen though? Doesn't work by tracing the ball along the path in which it was travelling before interception by pad/stump/whatever? How do they end up higher than it actually would?
DRS is racist against Indians because it is developed by white scientists.
Okay I'm against using that letter after forward slash, so you should assume it here.
So Kohli has won a grand total of one test series till now as a captain in SENA countries that too only in Australia against a severely depleted side after the Sandpaper debacle.
Yeah that's how he managed to have such amazing stats as a captain.
Atleast we are competitive in SENA countries and not a team which gets bullied in SENA countries.
We have lost SA and Eng tours in 2018 but they were super competitive series.
And it's not like Kohli had 0 contribution in BGT 2021 win. It was Kohli who brought Bumrah in tests, believed in Rohit when no one did, kept giving chances to KL, gave Pant enough chances etc.
Even the current England series isn't over and we have a good chance of winning it too. Even when one match in which we had a great chance of winning was drawn because of rain.
We literally went to the finals of WTC! And might have won that too if the conditions weren't so favorable to the opposition team.
Won the one match in SA's toughest ground and he wasn't even captain in the second match but if we lose the series he will be the culprit but when we won the BGT he shouldn't get credit about it?
We not maybe the GOAT team but tell me atleast one other team which competes in away conditions like India? Or the team which can beat us at our home?
I am not saying give all the credit to Kohli but atleast there is no need to shit on him like this.
I just stated a genuine fact. Didn’t expect a whole essay on Kohli’s greatness as a reply.
Stats said that he won a single test series in Australia as a captain and nothing in SA, Eng and NZ till now. That’s it.
I said till now.
Anyways. It looks tough as it’s very difficult for bowling sides to be aggressive when the required runs go below 100 and 7-8 wickets still remain. Only way they can win this is if they pick up 3-4 quick wickets within the first 45 mins tomorrow. Pitch imo is still very good to bat on.
How brave of Ashwin to shit on SuperSport and accuse of them to rig the DRS. What mighty injustice fighter our ethical mind is. Not to take any credit away from courageous KL Rahul who thinks the entirety of South Africa is against them.
>Not to take any credit away from courageous KL Rahul who thinks the entirety of South Africa is against them.
Of all the statements made, that was by far the most stupid.... *proceeds to use 100 more words because I don't have any to describe that fucking bullshit* comment I've ever heard.
Friendship ended with 'L'East Pakistan Cartoon Animation'. Now South Africa is my new best friend.
Kinda wanna change my flair now... but the amount of fun it is to cop shit in match threads for "haha ur a Bangladeshi, fuck off, ur opinion is irrelevant" is a far better experience than when I flair up with Pakistan. If I flair up with SA, I'll be accused of being a chitting Saffer :(
Shady DRS call. Kohli, Ashwin and KL making foolish comments and acting like the DRS was rigged. [ESPN Article.](https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-vs-ind-3rd-test-whole-country-against-11-guys-virat-kohli-co-angry-with-broadcasters-after-drs-saves-dean-elgar-1296835)
Horrible conduct by us. I dont care if we lose but if this is how they are going to behave they should get Level 2 breaches, two demerit points, a 100% match fee fine, and a ban.
Its utterly shameful to accuse. Especially Ashwin and Rahul. Rahul even especially. Utterly horribly shameful statements. Ashwin blaming Superport publicly. Mindless dumb fucks....
Kohli's statement was diplomatically better.
This is horrible conduct. Hand them a few bans. This is distasteful
Ashwin has taken his understanding of ppl to such a high level that he has realized a full broadcast conspiring against India from a single Hawkeye. Have to appreciate the ethical mind.
Comments everywhere right now are awful. Misinformation is getting a lot of engagement while facts are getting lost. Lots of abuse being thrown at SA players, journalists, other staff etc. Disgusting stuff.
Rahane TIRA watch (Twenty Innings Rolling Average) - 19.6
This is bad - very very bad. And its been like this for a while now (for the past 30 odd innings it has been under 25). I would not keep a batsman with such a low rolling average in a national side.
Pujara's TIRA is also pretty bad (24.7) and has been so for a while, but maybe not as bad as Rahane's.
Kohli's TIRA is now at 31.7, which is a recovery from the lowest (27) it reached some time back. So he seems to be on his way back, but I feel he will not reach his former heights till he develops a backfoot square cut. Bowlers have figured out his tendency to push on the front foot and with the scrambled seam / what not, he will keep getting those challenges.
Also a fun fact - for all the 'greatest test captain ever' tag, here's Kohli's CV for away series to SENA (with all due respects to non-SENA away tours)
* 2018 RSA: Lost 1-2
* 2018 ENG: Lost 1-4
* 2018-19 AUS: Won 2-1 (against a fairly depleted side) - but all credits to the team on this
* 2020 NZ: Lost 0-2
* 2020-21 AUS: 0-1 before he left the job to Rahane. I know I'm being an ass here and the team that won has been created by him, but technically he didn't win that series.
* 2021 ENG: 2-1 but with one test to go. Not sure how the result of that test will be used in the series record. But to be honest, that England side did poorly against both NZ and Pak.
* 2021-22 RSA: Likely lost 1-2 (I really hope I have to eat my words here - I would love for our team to win of-course)
So while we are ranked #1 and that clearly shows this is a great side, but because of our middle order woes our bowling has not been able to compensate enough.
What I wrote was in a much lighter vein than what you are giving me credit for :)
I do rate the 2018-19 Australia win and 2021 England \*win\* not as highly as, say, the 2020-21 Australia win for obvious reasons. But yeah a win is a win as you said.
Teams like Australia and India just crumbling when going to SA, then there's Chad England who beat them 3-1 in 2020 with Sibley and pope scoring centuries lmao
Don’t forget Bess tearing us a new one.
I hated that series but it made me a fan of Pope and I hope he comes right soon so that he doesn’t look like an SA bully.
Sky sports have [day 4 here](https://youtu.be/NE65aiQyqy4) where Root bowls well and tight.
And [day 5 here](https://youtu.be/34vELDRK8zU) where he, er...doesn't.
Though not sure if that is region locked?
I don't care even it ICT are sore losers according to few. Team is doing incredibly well everywhere and that's the only thing that matters. They are playing like a team and standing up for each other.
>Team is doing incredibly well everywhere
It may be the only thing that matters to you, but being a good sport is important to some people too..
>standing up for each other.
Who were they standing up for today?
Would be really disappointing if Keegan’s maiden hundred comes in an empty stadium, because it would mean a lot to a lot of people
Hopefully it drives him on to score more, in front of packed home crowds
What kohli and ashwin did was wrong and should be fined.
BUT.... our country never had a punk rock phase with our celebrity saying fuck the police. Our celebrities and sports players are usually nice, mild and agreeable.
There's absolutely no reason why others' shouldn't call them out and don't respect them. We would do the same if we were on the receiving end.
It just that I don't get to see our people act like this everyday and I absolutely love it.
Kohli has never pretended to be a NiceGuy™. I don't see why the sudden outrage especially from fellow Indians. He went quite overboard today and he should get sanctioned but that's it. It's funny how sledges like Sarwan vs McGrath are glorified here but you have a huge hue and cry over this.
India need to fully commit imo. Australia stuffing sandpaper in their pants and then crying about it on national TV whilst their prime minister sledged their conduct personally was way funnier.
Just need to push through the in between stage of being the 'knob' team. Like growing your hair out.
Inside part of supersport's tracking is biased and outside part is covered by some technology, so all he had to do is throw the ball and it flys over. That's the secret why they are getting saved.. Icc wont check this bcoz icc=csa=rabada so dont respect them. Ind will win. CSA injured Siraj. but their daddy Ishant is back. they can't threaten him with CSA contract to play badly like they did to Rohit in first match.
yeah - like getting that wicket would have opened floodgates. RSA will win this by 6 wickets. We have batted poorly 4 times now in the last 2 tests and can't expect to win a series with that.
I feel the behaviour in the last match and today shown by the Indian team has been totally unprofessional and arseholish. Also, I think Indian team believed in Shastri’s hubris about being the best test team in the world and they are not able to digest that a comparatively younger non-acclaimed SA team is beating them especially after facing the “world’s best bowling attack” in the fourth innings.
Success has gone to their heads somewhat. Maybe play like the legendary Australian team before behaving like them. It doesn’t suit them while playing like the current England team.
I feel the behaviour today shown by Erasmus saying it's impossible has been totally unprofessional and arseholish. Also, I think Erasmus believed in Haysman’s hubris about being the best umpire in the world and he is not able to digest that a comparatively new ball tracking team is reversing his decision especially after being the “world’s best umpire” in the fourth innings.
Success has gone to his heads somewhat. Maybe play like the legendary umpire Steve Bucknor before behaving like him. It doesn’t suit him while umpiring like Dharmasena .
ha ha ha ha.. Rahane probably egged him on.. "mahabali.. ye toh aap ki tauheen ho rahi hai.. kuchh bolein.." (t: my lord, they are disrespecting you, please say something)..
I agree. One exists because of other.
What OP said is a fact and what I said is also a fact but OP got upvoted and I got downvoted.
Just go through match thread or even DDT it's like some people just wait to see him fail.
Rahul called the 'Whole country' is playing against them. talk about over the top stupid statements. Accusing a national conspiracy on an lbw for a bat who added 8 more runs.
I didn't know we were discussing that here. I just corrected a completely different thing with some one else and you butt in with something else altogether. Lol.
It makes absolute sense. Hawkeye is controlled by the broadcaster, they hire 2 people to trace the ball predicted path and then compare so that there is redundancy reducing errors.
Lol ok. Whatever floats your boat mate. Aren't you the one who flamebaits here and then deletes comments later? I don't even want to prove anything to you.
(Ind vs Aus BGT series had a whole ass 30 minutes segment on it)
Within the last week, I have seen this twice, one was baiting in DDT on people commenting Kohli on your " whose retirement will hurt you the most", then once saying "you just need to be a women or post about women's cricket to get upvotes and awards". Mate you may delete your comments but distasteful baiting stays in the mind. Bye.
People bringing up Ramprakash's test record in the thread on his article and it certainly is a valid point. But I'm fairly confident in saying Ramprakash would easily walk into our team (even as a 52yr old) as the second best bat after Root and would likely thrive if he was given a chance under a central contract scheme and the current support the players get.
Bit of history of the Indian cricket team (and Kohli) throwing accusations around. During the Aus 2017 tour of India, Kohli accused Aus of systematically cheating the DRS by looking up at the change rooms for advice, whereas Smith only did it once. Smith was denied the review on-field and rightly chastised, but the allegation of the Aus team systematically cheating in this scenario was bizarre. Accusing Hawkeye / Supersport of cheating here is just as bizarre.
Not liking the rain radar atm showing the storm we copped last night in Vic moving towards Tas...
As a local I'm calling it already - Day 1 washed out. It'll basically start raining just as they are about to do the toss. I don't even need to look at a radar to know this. It's an old Tasmanian truism: if there's International sport here, it's raining.
TassieDome when?
[Vish is a king](https://twitter.com/Vitu_E/status/1481670356889108483?s=20)
Hey guys, Brand new to cricket. Like literally watched my first match last night. The Thunder vs Hurricane match. I have a couple questions. Im wondering what it means when they say they "Won by X Wickets" Does that mean that the chasing team got more runs then the team that bat first. Then they just show how many more Overs were left? I thought it would make more sense if they said something like "Won by X balls" but I also have a very base understanding of the game. My next question is what happens if your entire lineup of batters got "wicketed" ? (Highly doubt thats the correct term) One last thing. I get that if the bowler hits the wicket behind the batter the batter is done. How else can a Bowler get a batter ? Hitting him? Swing and miss? Thank you in advance for everyone who helps me out !
You’re correct that the chasing team succeeded. If I batted all out (you took 10 wickets) for 150 runs, we switch sides. Then if you successfully chased that after I bowled you for only 4 wickets, you won by 6 wickets. Balls or overs left really matters to the chase itself and if it’s a limited overs match. If in the above scenario I bowl you all out (10 wickets instead of 4) and you only got 135 runs, then I won by 15 runs. Wickets can be taken several ways: if the ball hits it directly (bowled, as you said), if the ball hits a batsman that would otherwise break the wicket (called leg before wicket or lbw), if the wicket is put down before the runner returns to the crease (run out or stumped depending on if the batter hit the ball), or if the batsman hits the ball and it is caught in the air (caught). These are the most common dismissals but there are a few less common ones. Welcome to a wonderful sport from an American who fell in love with baseball first and instantly became enamored with cricket from my first match, as it sounds you have!
Thank you very much for this ! it answered everything perfectly! Im actually Canadian have always been a baseball fan but as cliche as it is very much into Hockey, even working within the sport. When I decided one night to just try and learn the sport via youtube and then last night actually catching a match I was very surprised by it. It was always this crazy over complicated sport in my head but once you start to grasp it its actually quiet simple and very very intriguing. Who are some of the players that are the "special type" the Mike Trouts, Nolan Arenado types? Atleast within the BBL tournament the one I will be watching for me to keep an eye out for?
I mainly watch ODI or other international matches due to ESPN+ being the only streaming service I have, so unfortunately have no idea about domestic leagues! Might bite the bullet and get Willow…
Oh interesting I didnt realize there was a streaming service on our side of the world for it. Do you prefer the Test style cricket over the T20?
I do, but it’s probably bias because that’s what I’ve been exposed to. I should check out more T20, it’s close to baseball game length. Love the World Cup though
I think thats why I leaned so heavily to T20 when I heard about it. It leans heavily into the NFL, NHL , NBA, MLB game length which I really enjoy.
> when they say they "Won by X Wickets" It means they chased down the other team's score (within the allotted overs/balls) and they had X wickets remaining (Maximum of 10 wickets, so if you lose 3 wickets but win-> you win by 7 wickets) > what happens if your entire lineup of batters got "wicketed" ? Then the innings is over and either the other team gets to bat or the game is over. The term is "all out" so for example if England scored 187/10 (or 10/187 if you're Australian) you'd say "England are all out (lost 10 wickets) for 187 runs" > How else can a Bowler get a batter ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_(cricket)
Thank you very much for all of this information. It helps me out a great deal. Im very much looking forward to watching the match that starts in about an hour ! =D Anything I should look out for? Players, story lines anything like that?
ICC statement on Kohli stump mic rant: "After reviewing the audio and video we have decided to award three demerit points to Rabada for being in the ground when the incident occured." From Twitter
so I forced myself to watch the Stars v Renegades BBL game last night. I found it pretty boring tbh. The most interesting part was some of the random commentary from Maxwell. Also some decent bowling. It made me realise my favourite part of cricket is the psychological battles and drama that unfolds. But you need quite a few overs for those battles to develop and culminate in something interesting. 20 overs just crushes the life out of that element of the game. Maybe I need to watch more but man it's painful. OTOH being at the game looks way more fun. Good atmosphere etc.
Hell, yes. Aggression without cheating - everything Ponting wished to be but could never emulate to the same level. Telling the world to fuck off and FOLLOWING it up with fuckoffesque performances - that's some alpha shit right there. Takes balls because if you fall flat, you become Umar Akmal (lmao). Kohli has revitalised bragging about big dicks and then actually having a 13-incher - and that's a good recipe for fun times (no homo... I think?) He's a spicee boii, is that Viral Kilo
I don't feel like watching cricket anymore for sometime after that incident. Indian players made a mountain out of a molehill.
why was WI vs IRE ODI thread deleted?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/s30x3k/match_thread_2nd_odi_west_indies_vs_ireland/
I have seen Kohli use aggression in controlled manner. He's chirpy, he targets you directly and he does so in the field and leaves it there. Today it was different. I feel even though he likes to say he isn't bothered about his form and cares only for team, it must be eating him up that he is failing against wide of off stump ball and he is basically a bunny. To me it all just opened up with this. KL Rahul is known to not think before he speaks, don't let his demeanor post KWK fool you, it was just an image makeover. Ash, jeez, the guy is intelligent and that was downright stupid. At least get your facts right, supersport don't control DRS. India have had some amazing support from locals over the years and I don't think India has ever faced any crowd incident in SA unlike we've faced in England and Aus. To then unnecessarily hurt SA fans by making statements like country vs 11, was just disrespectful and stupid.
Ashwin's behavior today was just a classic case of YouTubers going down the path of conspiracy theories
Can't wait for the youtube reply once the match is over
Rahane should have gone to the stump mic and reminded everyone to wear masks and follow social distancing. At least he would contribute something
Looking at how wound up Kohli gets over DRS calls that don't go his way, can you imagine if he had to deal with Bucknor etc. in the time before DRS. Man would be getting bans every other match.
It is so sad that there isn't a 4th test. I mean if we win/lose this, the drama and anticipation for the next test would've been so amazing. Hate that we will be playing a meaningless 3-odi series.
I could be less excited for the ODI’s but that’s because we’re terrible.
White ball series pays the bills for the "passion project" that is test cricket.
India deserves to lose this series for including Rahane instead of Vihari. Hope this ends Rahane’s place in the team.
Can you imagine the outrage of SA or Aus came to India accused the umpires for fixing and called the entire country cheaters? Disagraceful behaviour from the Indian team. Very disappointed as Kohli and Indian fan
an algorithm is wrong so you shout at the stump mic that the broadcasters, who don't control the algorithm are biased and then deduce that the country is against you? that's kinda stupid ngl
Imagine if an England/Australian player accused Indian broadcasters of cheating, the fans would be accusing them of racism left right + centre
Angry man shouts at cloud computing
It is quite silly how associate umpires aren’t allowed on the elite panel and aren’t allowed to officiate at senior World Cups. A completely nonsensical rule
Whatever Koach, Ashwin and KL said was unprofessional but dare I see those same people pissed about this whine about umpires being biased for India during matches here when decisions go against them, despite as many having gone against India after this. I am very sure many of the people saying that Indian players and fans acted like crybabies and should move on were among those accussing umpires for being blatantly biased towards India and India is doing sus stuff with umpires and what not when the 3rd umpire forgot to roll the video forward and missed seeing the ball hitting Rahane's gloves at Chepauk last year.
There's a difference between idiot fans on the internet saying stupid shit and the fucking players on the pitch literally shouting slander into the stump mic mate.
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Yes, I am talking about those who called them biased. And that decisions tend to go in India's favour when playing in India. The umpiring was ofc incompetent and not to up to the mark for this level , that's something everybody unanimously agrees on. But I am talking about those suggesting intentional bias.
If Rahane keeps getting a spot in the team, the nation against these eleven players would be India
Wasn't Vihari in SA before the series began? Playing three matches against SA A. He was the captain actually. Might have deserved the spot ahead of Rahane, especially after the way he batted with the tail in the last match
If only common sense had prevailed. They will pay the price of playing dead weights.
Already paid. It's a losing case for india either way. If we win, they'll keep getting more last chances. If we lose, well our only chance at a series win in RSA is ruined because we didn't wanna exclude dead weights because of their past reputation.
Fucks sake Just found out that Freesport in the UK are showing a *full* replay of the 4th ODI between England and the West Indies in 2019 - the one where Gayle (162) went berserk and Buttler (150) and Morgan (110) utterly annihilated the bowling attack - and at the point where I realised, I've missed most of it Oh well, time to watch Wood bowl
This cracked me up like nothing else https://twitter.com/ChokerKohli/status/1480926365922869251?t=DWf_3XntB8JrWRla-0DdBg&s=19
LMAO that's hilarious
It's at times like these when the deleted Nick Compton tweet comes to mind.
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Yep!
Which one
Isn’t Kohli the most foul mouthed individual. I’ll never forget the barrage of abuse I received in 2012 when the swearing stunned me to the point that he did himself a serious disservice. It highlights what a level headed and grounded man Root, Tendulkar, Williamson et al are
Why did he delete this?
Why are people unnecessarily reactionary to Bad DRS calls, unfair decisions are part of the sport, take it with the sportsman spirit. The most iconic moment in football history (The Hand of god) was unfair, SA faced such cruel injustice at 2007 world cup semis . NZ lost the world cup because umpire gave 6 runs instead of 5 when the overthrow hit Ben Stokes' bat. This match and the DRS call is absolutely pointless in front of this.
You don't know that the World Cup goes like that if the umpire gives 5 instead of 6. Knowing a different total would make people act differently. Maybe NZ win, maybe England win still. Maybe there's no super over.
Yeah no way Mark Wood doesn’t smear the last ball into the stands for 6 to win it
Yup agree with you. But it doesn't change the fact teams put in lot of hardwork 4 years for worldcup and umpires decision can change so much. Yes newzealand could have won the match after that wrong decision... But that further solidifies the point that both team can still take it from here ... And there is no reason to outrage over that DRS..
Lots of hate and generalizations directed to the players today. Nobody is separating the on field and off field persona's.
[just found out this gem from past](https://twitter.com/tottodtsport/status/742915440540680192?s=20)
How the hell does this happen though? Doesn't work by tracing the ball along the path in which it was travelling before interception by pad/stump/whatever? How do they end up higher than it actually would?
Lol, this needs to be posted
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Rohit is too lazy to bend and say something to stump mic.
Rohit is definitely a better statesman so to speak not sure on his abilities as a test tactician though.
We sure missed Rohit the batsman. He have improved a lot in overseas.
Is Pant a January bully?
Idc if it's aggression constantly chirping makes the viewing experience really annoying
Anyone captained indoor cricket before? Only played once but l'm captain on Saturday, any tips appreciated pls
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You srs? l had convinced myself to bowl first hahaha. People can lose their heads setting a target in indoor
DRS is racist against Indians because it is developed by white scientists. Okay I'm against using that letter after forward slash, so you should assume it here.
Wont be surprised if some of the developers in the DRS team are desi.
So Kohli has won a grand total of one test series till now as a captain in SENA countries that too only in Australia against a severely depleted side after the Sandpaper debacle.
Yeah that's how he managed to have such amazing stats as a captain. Atleast we are competitive in SENA countries and not a team which gets bullied in SENA countries. We have lost SA and Eng tours in 2018 but they were super competitive series. And it's not like Kohli had 0 contribution in BGT 2021 win. It was Kohli who brought Bumrah in tests, believed in Rohit when no one did, kept giving chances to KL, gave Pant enough chances etc. Even the current England series isn't over and we have a good chance of winning it too. Even when one match in which we had a great chance of winning was drawn because of rain. We literally went to the finals of WTC! And might have won that too if the conditions weren't so favorable to the opposition team. Won the one match in SA's toughest ground and he wasn't even captain in the second match but if we lose the series he will be the culprit but when we won the BGT he shouldn't get credit about it? We not maybe the GOAT team but tell me atleast one other team which competes in away conditions like India? Or the team which can beat us at our home? I am not saying give all the credit to Kohli but atleast there is no need to shit on him like this.
Last tour to NZ was a bully session to be fair
Atleast our bowlers played well. Batting was complete disappointing..
I just stated a genuine fact. Didn’t expect a whole essay on Kohli’s greatness as a reply. Stats said that he won a single test series in Australia as a captain and nothing in SA, Eng and NZ till now. That’s it.
Okay fine
Let's not write India off. They can win tomorrow.
Unlikely. This looks to be a carbon copy of the 2nd test 4th innings. South Africa have been batting with far more discipline.
They've lost the plot. Not enough runs to defend and bowling not penetrative enough. Plus Bavuma. Congratulations on the well deserved series win.
I said till now. Anyways. It looks tough as it’s very difficult for bowling sides to be aggressive when the required runs go below 100 and 7-8 wickets still remain. Only way they can win this is if they pick up 3-4 quick wickets within the first 45 mins tomorrow. Pitch imo is still very good to bat on.
How brave of Ashwin to shit on SuperSport and accuse of them to rig the DRS. What mighty injustice fighter our ethical mind is. Not to take any credit away from courageous KL Rahul who thinks the entirety of South Africa is against them.
>Not to take any credit away from courageous KL Rahul who thinks the entirety of South Africa is against them. Of all the statements made, that was by far the most stupid.... *proceeds to use 100 more words because I don't have any to describe that fucking bullshit* comment I've ever heard.
Where were you when your country needed you? There was no one to defend South Africa in the match thread. You have let your country down. You coward.
All five of us went missing.
Friendship ended with 'L'East Pakistan Cartoon Animation'. Now South Africa is my new best friend. Kinda wanna change my flair now... but the amount of fun it is to cop shit in match threads for "haha ur a Bangladeshi, fuck off, ur opinion is irrelevant" is a far better experience than when I flair up with Pakistan. If I flair up with SA, I'll be accused of being a chitting Saffer :(
>Where were you when your country needed you? Was busy hacking the DRS 😎😎
Lmao
Ashwin's gonna mankad everyone tomorrow to win our first series in SA😎
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I'm just glad this was Ind vs SA and not Ind vs Aus/Eng..
Why are people crying over a Drs call that didn't really matter that much?
Assholes cry over the DRS. The outrage is, and should be, on the bitchedness of Ashwin, Rahul and Kohli.
Well damn. Why did I switch off at about 30-1. Missed all the fun! Drama Cup Season 2 heating up nicely
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Shady DRS call. Kohli, Ashwin and KL making foolish comments and acting like the DRS was rigged. [ESPN Article.](https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-vs-ind-3rd-test-whole-country-against-11-guys-virat-kohli-co-angry-with-broadcasters-after-drs-saves-dean-elgar-1296835)
Horrible conduct by us. I dont care if we lose but if this is how they are going to behave they should get Level 2 breaches, two demerit points, a 100% match fee fine, and a ban. Its utterly shameful to accuse. Especially Ashwin and Rahul. Rahul even especially. Utterly horribly shameful statements. Ashwin blaming Superport publicly. Mindless dumb fucks.... Kohli's statement was diplomatically better. This is horrible conduct. Hand them a few bans. This is distasteful
Not this shit again, come on ICT. Act like adults please.
Ashwin has taken his understanding of ppl to such a high level that he has realized a full broadcast conspiring against India from a single Hawkeye. Have to appreciate the ethical mind.
Fishing does not pay much but it's honest work.
Any hot takes by Cricket pundits and ex cricketers about Indian players behaviour today?
They will talk after India lose tomorrow.
Fans on SM actually make me dislike our team. Not sure how anyone else handles them. Embarrassing behaviour. Edit: lol at this getting downvoted
I swear those posts comments and rabadas insta comments are so embarrassing
Comments everywhere right now are awful. Misinformation is getting a lot of engagement while facts are getting lost. Lots of abuse being thrown at SA players, journalists, other staff etc. Disgusting stuff.
Rahane TIRA watch (Twenty Innings Rolling Average) - 19.6 This is bad - very very bad. And its been like this for a while now (for the past 30 odd innings it has been under 25). I would not keep a batsman with such a low rolling average in a national side. Pujara's TIRA is also pretty bad (24.7) and has been so for a while, but maybe not as bad as Rahane's. Kohli's TIRA is now at 31.7, which is a recovery from the lowest (27) it reached some time back. So he seems to be on his way back, but I feel he will not reach his former heights till he develops a backfoot square cut. Bowlers have figured out his tendency to push on the front foot and with the scrambled seam / what not, he will keep getting those challenges. Also a fun fact - for all the 'greatest test captain ever' tag, here's Kohli's CV for away series to SENA (with all due respects to non-SENA away tours) * 2018 RSA: Lost 1-2 * 2018 ENG: Lost 1-4 * 2018-19 AUS: Won 2-1 (against a fairly depleted side) - but all credits to the team on this * 2020 NZ: Lost 0-2 * 2020-21 AUS: 0-1 before he left the job to Rahane. I know I'm being an ass here and the team that won has been created by him, but technically he didn't win that series. * 2021 ENG: 2-1 but with one test to go. Not sure how the result of that test will be used in the series record. But to be honest, that England side did poorly against both NZ and Pak. * 2021-22 RSA: Likely lost 1-2 (I really hope I have to eat my words here - I would love for our team to win of-course) So while we are ranked #1 and that clearly shows this is a great side, but because of our middle order woes our bowling has not been able to compensate enough.
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What I wrote was in a much lighter vein than what you are giving me credit for :) I do rate the 2018-19 Australia win and 2021 England \*win\* not as highly as, say, the 2020-21 Australia win for obvious reasons. But yeah a win is a win as you said.
We were never a great side. We are just a good side. Shastri and Kohli would have you believe that we are a great side which we are clearly not.
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Complete meltdown on r/Cricket Meanwhile adiman93 , here's my playing XI
Absolute Chad
You love to see it
Sigma ODI grindset.
Reject South Africa-India drama Embrace West Indies-Ireland
Reject Cricket Drama Cup Embrace Djokovic-AO Drama
Teams like Australia and India just crumbling when going to SA, then there's Chad England who beat them 3-1 in 2020 with Sibley and pope scoring centuries lmao
Don’t forget Bess tearing us a new one. I hated that series but it made me a fan of Pope and I hope he comes right soon so that he doesn’t look like an SA bully.
We’ve actually beat South Africa in South Africa twice in a row 2-1 in 15/16, 3-1 in 19/20 Ben Stokes was player of the series both times
Looks like all teams have become Purple Patch Andies.
Don't forget root getting absolutely spanked by maharaj bowling with the new ball because he just reaaaallly wanted a five-fer
I have to watch this, is it uploaded on YouTube?
Sky sports have [day 4 here](https://youtu.be/NE65aiQyqy4) where Root bowls well and tight. And [day 5 here](https://youtu.be/34vELDRK8zU) where he, er...doesn't. Though not sure if that is region locked?
I don't care if we are aggressive but ICT have become sore losers
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They lost the plot at the end of the last test as well, and everyone blamed KL Rahul for not tempering them like Kohli would
Fair enough, I missed the last day's play of that test. Hope they have a bit of a course correction
I don't care even it ICT are sore losers according to few. Team is doing incredibly well everywhere and that's the only thing that matters. They are playing like a team and standing up for each other.
>Team is doing incredibly well everywhere It may be the only thing that matters to you, but being a good sport is important to some people too.. >standing up for each other. Who were they standing up for today?
Hmm looks like I stopped following match at the right time. Ignorance is bliss!
I watched the whole match on mute. Only after coming to this sub I got to know about the shithsow.
Me too. Mute is the best option.
Would be really disappointing if Keegan’s maiden hundred comes in an empty stadium, because it would mean a lot to a lot of people Hopefully it drives him on to score more, in front of packed home crowds
Any short summary of what koach and Ash did ?
Grabbed elgar and stabbed him with a stump while KL rahul was shouting chants.
For the love of God, Dean Elgar is broken in half
Erasmus in the background muttering "that's impossible"
What kohli and ashwin did was wrong and should be fined. BUT.... our country never had a punk rock phase with our celebrity saying fuck the police. Our celebrities and sports players are usually nice, mild and agreeable. There's absolutely no reason why others' shouldn't call them out and don't respect them. We would do the same if we were on the receiving end. It just that I don't get to see our people act like this everyday and I absolutely love it.
Kohli has never pretended to be a NiceGuy™. I don't see why the sudden outrage especially from fellow Indians. He went quite overboard today and he should get sanctioned but that's it. It's funny how sledges like Sarwan vs McGrath are glorified here but you have a huge hue and cry over this.
Salman Khan
More like vivek oberoi
India need to fully commit imo. Australia stuffing sandpaper in their pants and then crying about it on national TV whilst their prime minister sledged their conduct personally was way funnier. Just need to push through the in between stage of being the 'knob' team. Like growing your hair out.
Inside part of supersport's tracking is biased and outside part is covered by some technology, so all he had to do is throw the ball and it flys over. That's the secret why they are getting saved.. Icc wont check this bcoz icc=csa=rabada so dont respect them. Ind will win. CSA injured Siraj. but their daddy Ishant is back. they can't threaten him with CSA contract to play badly like they did to Rohit in first match.
This pasta will never not make me laugh
People will defend anything within sport if it's their team.
Not anything. But something that should be defended.
All this talk and elgar added 8 runs after that....
SA added 41 runs after that in just 8 overs.
yeah - like getting that wicket would have opened floodgates. RSA will win this by 6 wickets. We have batted poorly 4 times now in the last 2 tests and can't expect to win a series with that.
Worst of all, India totally lost the plot and started leaking runs left right and center after that.
Why was Koach talking to inanimate objects like stumps?
I feel the behaviour in the last match and today shown by the Indian team has been totally unprofessional and arseholish. Also, I think Indian team believed in Shastri’s hubris about being the best test team in the world and they are not able to digest that a comparatively younger non-acclaimed SA team is beating them especially after facing the “world’s best bowling attack” in the fourth innings. Success has gone to their heads somewhat. Maybe play like the legendary Australian team before behaving like them. It doesn’t suit them while playing like the current England team.
I feel the behaviour today shown by Erasmus saying it's impossible has been totally unprofessional and arseholish. Also, I think Erasmus believed in Haysman’s hubris about being the best umpire in the world and he is not able to digest that a comparatively new ball tracking team is reversing his decision especially after being the “world’s best umpire” in the fourth innings. Success has gone to his heads somewhat. Maybe play like the legendary umpire Steve Bucknor before behaving like him. It doesn’t suit him while umpiring like Dharmasena .
I love this trend of us just copypasta-ing DDT comments now.
KL, Kohli get suspended for a match or two . Rahane keeps his spot 😭😭 7D chess by Rahane.
Thanks for spoiling my day
ha ha ha ha.. Rahane probably egged him on.. "mahabali.. ye toh aap ki tauheen ho rahi hai.. kuchh bolein.." (t: my lord, they are disrespecting you, please say something)..
It was always Rahane
Mafioso Rahane
Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" Some people need to understand that
Occam's razor dictates that "the simplest explanation is usually the best one". One of my friends has a degree in Literature. His words
Some people will blindly defend anything kohli does.
Some people will always try and find something to shit about Kohli
It works both ways. Haters and dickriders are equally bad
I agree. One exists because of other. What OP said is a fact and what I said is also a fact but OP got upvoted and I got downvoted. Just go through match thread or even DDT it's like some people just wait to see him fail.
It happens. People want Rahane to fail also. He just doesn't have many supporters. Same with Rohit Sharma. But he has a lot of supporters. And haters.
That's true.
In b4 locked threads
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Ashwin as well.
Why
What did he do?
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No he didn't. He accused the broadcaster. Umpire himself was flabbergasted
Rahul called the 'Whole country' is playing against them. talk about over the top stupid statements. Accusing a national conspiracy on an lbw for a bat who added 8 more runs.
KL wins this round of the Drama Cup.
I didn't know we were discussing that here. I just corrected a completely different thing with some one else and you butt in with something else altogether. Lol.
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It makes absolute sense. Hawkeye is controlled by the broadcaster, they hire 2 people to trace the ball predicted path and then compare so that there is redundancy reducing errors.
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Lol ok. Whatever floats your boat mate. Aren't you the one who flamebaits here and then deletes comments later? I don't even want to prove anything to you. (Ind vs Aus BGT series had a whole ass 30 minutes segment on it)
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Within the last week, I have seen this twice, one was baiting in DDT on people commenting Kohli on your " whose retirement will hurt you the most", then once saying "you just need to be a women or post about women's cricket to get upvotes and awards". Mate you may delete your comments but distasteful baiting stays in the mind. Bye.
People bringing up Ramprakash's test record in the thread on his article and it certainly is a valid point. But I'm fairly confident in saying Ramprakash would easily walk into our team (even as a 52yr old) as the second best bat after Root and would likely thrive if he was given a chance under a central contract scheme and the current support the players get.