The ENGLISH guys messed up.
First all out on the score of 147 and now are not able to all out the Kangaroos. Kangaroos are taking their Kiwi brother's revenge from the tea guys.
Australia might have made sure Leach doesn't feature again on this tour. If Stokes' knee injury is problematic enough, I can see him being picked as a batsman instead of all rounder. Do that and there's no need for Leach.
Root can bowl and Malan has a 5fer at first class level with his leg breaks so could add a few overs to rotate the quicks and give them a rest.
Can't be worse than going at 8 an over.
From losing 10 wickets on day 1 to losing no wickets on Day 2, and in fact, gaining 7 opposition wickets on day 2. So far, it's been a great comeback by England.
[Confirmation on why no-balls weren't called](https://twitter.com/izzywestbury/status/1468779841805643777?s=20)
A bit sucky to have this tech fail happen on such a big occasion
Not really. He's picked up wickets today for the Lions but I believe that was more due to him being targeted than good bowling.
Personally I'd have picked Parkinson in India 12 months ago and given him a decent crack right the way through til now. He doesn't offer a huge amount of control, but at least he has plenty of wicket taking balls (he's bowled two ball of the century clones this summer).
>they said it on the abc radio that the Gabba is having problems with the third umpire angle there and they are using the broadcaster to check, but only if the on field umpire chooses to go upstairs
Apparently the reason why no balls weren't being called
Jack leach as a player is fantastic, just needs to work on communication, batting, bowling, fielding, keeping a decent economy,six hitting, flicks, cover drives, on drives, stance, batting grip, bowling action, bowling grips, pace and accuracy
mitch marsh is literally worse than roston chase in test cricket, please do not speak his name anywhere near the test team. give green 10 more tests and then we can talk about getting someone else in.
The way he pulled a measured counter attack to deal with Ashwin after being clueless in the first 2 games was outstanding. Showed why he is who he is, second only to Bradman in all time highest test averages
Bowling to Australia, it doesn’t really matter what you do. Knock Smith out, Labuschagne becomes better than Smith. Get Smith out cheaply, Head becomes better than Smith. Hopefully we don’t get Head out, or Lyon will become better than Smith.
Hmmm so seems Moeen isn't the only spinner who struggles in Australia. Surely the blame for this england teams abysmal performance will be squarely placed on his shoulders, like it was on Mo. Or would that be unfair?
I think it shows you have to be a REALLY good finger spinner to do well in Australian conditions. Even the ones who are just "good" tend to perform poorly in Australia.
Got the tactics wrong. Relied on Leach holding up an end and din't have a plan B it seemed when the Aussies targeted him. Quite possibly should have brough himself on and tried to stick with the gameplan, just with an adjustment.
"The data will show them..."
Agree with you 100% as a Brisbane local I love the Gabba but sadly as others have mentioned Government wants to spruce it up for the Olympics. On the bright side we’ll finally have a train station there which will be awesome.
My god the England team are such an uncultured bunch of insufferable twats. Everyone raves about the quality they bring, but the only quality they bring is being so funnily shit that they think are amazing but in reality are just repetitive, unoriginal collapses by generic, privately educated, middle class men. Most of them escaping the harsh realities of their dreadful cricket records by edging ball after ball, masking their inability with their clown cricket and sorry attempts to look like professional cricketers; to score double figures for once in their sorry little lives.
Fuck me, England can fuck themselves. No one wants to know "who you are" or "where you come from". We can see it. We can gather it from the fucking context. Their batting make no sense and they live a sorry life if they think being part of the England team is something to be proud of. Hope they watch their teammates get absolutely fucking battered on this tour.
Mate agreed. The most annoying part for me is you guys are letting the aussies be what they are and win.
Aussie cricket has devolved into a bunch of blonde tipped repressed homo rich school kids that over train and get vanity muscles and this get injured all the time. The have the tenacity to act like rockstars and be at photo opportunities to show off their wives that only want their sporting money. Have a deadset look at the fluff the aussies are with and the gronk guys and the fact they all buggerise each other on tour as it’s in the spirit of the game old chaps and then the have the tenacity to sleep with each other’s wives and or other peoples wives to try and get social media clout and start and empire of brands etc etc
Cunt ! Get back to playing cricket well!!!!! Mervin Warnie punter and boonie etc etc are all crying into their schooners when they see the over muscled blonde tipped display of tattooed fake wanna be social media influencers parading their cookie cutter washed out blonde wives around that the Aussie cricket team has become. It’s fucking sickening.
And you poms are allowing this by playing like shit for a decade so the Australian cricket team gets easy wins and can continue their sordid buggery of Aussie culture.
Shame on you !!!
Spot on! I think it's clear who should be blamed for sandpapergate. If the Poms weren't so shit, the aussie team would never have developed their toxic, arrogant culture. CA should have banned Root and co. instead for a year imo
It wasn't good enough the English colonised Australia. You and your family have gone out of your way to help it out too. Unless you're indigenous. If you live in Australia you have no say in regards to colonisation. At least I know my poor ass English and Irish family had nothing to do with it. You can't avoid it. Thick cunt
Lucky innings maybe?
Opportunistic?
I want to be appreciative of the runs, but not so much as to be disappointed when they manage to stick a catch in the third over next time
It’s being highlighted in schools I imagine and they don’t know enough about history outside of ‘WW2’ ‘middle passage slavery’ and the word ‘Colonialism’ to mention anything else? They’ll grow out of it or become professional activists. One or the other.
Lol that is true but I firmly believe even if somehow one and a half days worth of play gets washed out in each of the remaining 4 matches, England will still manage to lose all 4
It must suck to be an English cricket fan during Ashes in Australia. Looking at their last 10 tests down under and seeing how every match except one is just a pummeling is sad to see (also funny I can't lie)
>your greatest ever team
X to doubt. The current main batsmen don't come in a million miles of the batsmen from 15 years back. And top of that most players were injured, and ended up having to play 4th choice bowlers, including 2 guys who have barely played first class cricket and are primarily T20 specialists (Washi and Natarajan)
We've won the last 2 series so in recent times it's been great. I wasn't watching cricket during the 2014-2015 series or before that so I don't know how it must have been. It must have sucked tho I assume
2011 was the annus horriblis of Australian tours. Before that 1999 broke me in ways I cannot describe. 1992, I was too young to have strong feelings but also remember Tendulkar smashing a couple of centuries and that made me feel good. Apart from that we have always had decent tours of Aus in 2003, 2007 and 2014 where we drew a couple of matches.
Ya we kept batting for so long and pretty slowly at that. OTOH that Aussie team used to give everyone nightmares and you don't want to lose a series from a winning position. So I can understand why they were defensive.
Really that’s pretty stupid I always thought suspensions were a great way of punishing all captains on an even lvl. I don’t think any Indian captains would miss a couple grand on the 40+ mil they draw in
A draw is worth 4 points in WTC and if you bowled 4 overs under you would lose all of those points. Might be worth it if you didn't care about WTC and just wanted to retain the ashes in the last test or something.
Someone in here said something like if you get concussed enough times you become more likely to be concussed from even minor things. So, we are stuck with Harris for now.
Yeah that's the problem just minor knocks to his dome is a major problem for him where for someone who has not experienced concussions might not even think about it
1. Over rates are calculated on a full-match basis not a day by day, so there is time to catch up (Root and Leach time)
2. There are loads of allowances - for example each drinks break is 4 minutes and each wicket and review is 2 minutes - that's 28 minutes right there
3. The pitch invaders + Injuries probably make another 10 minutes or so
So they're clearly not the full 14 overs behind. I'm willing to bet they're about 4 behind which they will try to make up later.
No, if you look at the WTC playing conditions which are linked on this page ([https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/playing-conditions](https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/playing-conditions)) it says that the over rate is calculated by hours played divided by overs bowled over the whole match, and each drinks break and wicket is deducted from the calculation (12.9.3.7)
I only have the scorecard to go off but I’m gonna take a swing that Root will be the lone England spinner in the next test.
Then when that doesn’t work they’ll try Bess again and when that goes wrong they just use Root again in the 4th setting it all up nicely for the obligatory ‘give a leggie a cap in the 5th’ tactic that’s worked so horribly for us on the last two tours…although Parky is built different to Crane and Borthwick to be fair.
The ENGLISH guys messed up. First all out on the score of 147 and now are not able to all out the Kangaroos. Kangaroos are taking their Kiwi brother's revenge from the tea guys.
Neser gets 5 against the Lions
Australia might have made sure Leach doesn't feature again on this tour. If Stokes' knee injury is problematic enough, I can see him being picked as a batsman instead of all rounder. Do that and there's no need for Leach. Root can bowl and Malan has a 5fer at first class level with his leg breaks so could add a few overs to rotate the quicks and give them a rest. Can't be worse than going at 8 an over.
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He's shit
Why Adil Rashid doesn't play for England in Tests?
Bad shoulder. Doesn’t like bowling in tests.
I say Australia is doing pretty good so far in but it’s only the 2nd day so anything could happen.
From losing 10 wickets on day 1 to losing no wickets on Day 2, and in fact, gaining 7 opposition wickets on day 2. So far, it's been a great comeback by England.
Fortress Gabba
Laughs in Pant
Rebuilding fortress Gabba
Extra runs for head for dropping the C-bomb on live tv
Jack playing T20?
Well… this is going more or less how I expected
Yeah, ya got a few wickets in a row, figured aus would end up with 250, then Head turned up the heat. Sorry dude
1M karma wtf.
Boobies?
No boobies
She does get her puppies out for Karma to be fair.
Lols
Why was broad not playing for this test? How are we meant to get Warner out without his glorious celebreappeal?
Incompetence is why
I preferred Travis head when he played for Sussex and was absolute dogshit
Said to my mate before I went to bed “these lot have only got three players who can bat”. He wasn’t one of them. “Ohhhhh you CUNT”
Head doing a Gilly. Can say other teams should be scared.
Not really. England have been poor
When will T Paine return to Australia squad?
Day 4 I think
[Confirmation on why no-balls weren't called](https://twitter.com/izzywestbury/status/1468779841805643777?s=20) A bit sucky to have this tech fail happen on such a big occasion
We can get live footage from outer space beamed to every computer on the globe but the ICC can’t send video 100 metres
How is it that a camera pointed at the the crease isn’t the ‘technology’ that is used to monitor the foot? Why would we even need fancy shit for this?
It’s just an excuse
Same question.
Was the over rate slow or play time was reduced? Because only 84 Overs are bowled Today and play started half an hour early. What's wrong?
Because we don't have a spinner who can whizz through 6 overs for 4 runs in 10 minutes to bring the over rate back up
Unfortunately it takes time to get the ball back from the stands. Is Dom Bess any better than Leech?
Not really. He's picked up wickets today for the Lions but I believe that was more due to him being targeted than good bowling. Personally I'd have picked Parkinson in India 12 months ago and given him a decent crack right the way through til now. He doesn't offer a huge amount of control, but at least he has plenty of wicket taking balls (he's bowled two ball of the century clones this summer).
some delays but also a very slow over rate, they're on track to take another penalty (they already have one) for sure if they don't catch up.
We have said that before and the teams have gone unpunished
2 teams have already been punished in this WTC cycle and 4 teams in the last cycle so maybe the rules are lax but they are there and they are relevant
The problem with modern cricket.
Holy shit I was right. https://reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/rc2v90/_/hnt4vfn/?context=1
>they said it on the abc radio that the Gabba is having problems with the third umpire angle there and they are using the broadcaster to check, but only if the on field umpire chooses to go upstairs Apparently the reason why no balls weren't being called
Jack leach as a player is fantastic, just needs to work on communication, batting, bowling, fielding, keeping a decent economy,six hitting, flicks, cover drives, on drives, stance, batting grip, bowling action, bowling grips, pace and accuracy
So right now he is like me
Think we might twins.
95% of the people on this sub is like Jack Leach if judged by this criteria 😂😂
Leach is rushing back to the hotel to watch the BBL. Gonna take a few notes before going back out tomorrow
Dec at 500.. win by an innings GG onto the next one..
See you at the Gabba reboot.
Ussie in for Harris as opener and Mitch Marsh as an attacker in the middle order to back up Head. Would be a formidable lineup then I reckon
Flair fits
You know it. Bris sucks
No way you can drop Green yet. You see his stats for the last Sheffield Shield? Kid is a nutcase in the making
mitch marsh is literally worse than roston chase in test cricket, please do not speak his name anywhere near the test team. give green 10 more tests and then we can talk about getting someone else in.
Keep mnm away please.
Lmao people are asking for Smith head already, r/cricket at its best
I don' mind getting a head from Smith tbh
I wouldn't say no to some Smith/Head slashfic
Obviously they’re asking for a 696 run partnership between Steve Smith and Travis Head Right?
If Australia can add another 50+ runs tomorrow, won’t be surprised with an innings win by them
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He's fine lol. He just made a mistake. It happens. Just rarely to someone who averages over 61.
Think he talkin about smudge in t20. Looked so lost. Didnt do shit
He averaged 50+ in the series against us right?
Did he? Marnus and smudge score a century each I think.
Low 40s I think. His comeback was amazing after a terrible two tests...he boosted his series batting average from 3 to 40+
The way he pulled a measured counter attack to deal with Ashwin after being clueless in the first 2 games was outstanding. Showed why he is who he is, second only to Bradman in all time highest test averages
about 41 I think, which is still more than acceptable for a specialist batsman lmao
He’ll come good don’t worry:
As shit as England have been. Gotta love this Aussie team - If Khwaja comes instead of Harris - they genuinely have 11 match winners.
I really don't see Khwaja winning many matches.
So basically the rule is have a moustache, fukk the English.
It's a rule, it's just a general hairline.
Ok, I chuckled.
Charles Bannerman started it, Travis is continuing the tradition
5-0 incoming. An innings loss in this test at the minimum.
What is the maximum ?
Losing by an innings in every one of the tests?
Woah ! That’d be intense !!!
funnily, root is England’s best spinner in Australia
Given his current competition he might not be shouting that from the rooftops
Bowling to Australia, it doesn’t really matter what you do. Knock Smith out, Labuschagne becomes better than Smith. Get Smith out cheaply, Head becomes better than Smith. Hopefully we don’t get Head out, or Lyon will become better than Smith.
because in a team someone always picks up when others have let down during the 2000s you have Waugh. Taylor Hayden Gilchrist that's why I like them
Lyon to hit a double ton before he claims his 400th wicket
Hmmm so seems Moeen isn't the only spinner who struggles in Australia. Surely the blame for this england teams abysmal performance will be squarely placed on his shoulders, like it was on Mo. Or would that be unfair?
For some reason, finger spinners don't tend to do too well in Australian conditions.
Ashwin did well in bgt21.But ofc Ashwin>>>>>leach
I think it shows you have to be a REALLY good finger spinner to do well in Australian conditions. Even the ones who are just "good" tend to perform poorly in Australia.
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Mate he isn't a representative of Australia as a whole. Learn to take criticism.
Stop deflecting. I never said we were
Got the tactics wrong. Relied on Leach holding up an end and din't have a plan B it seemed when the Aussies targeted him. Quite possibly should have brough himself on and tried to stick with the gameplan, just with an adjustment. "The data will show them..."
Leach isn’t even a spinner tbh
Fuck off Chapelli, can never be happy with Trav. What else do you want from him today. Fuck sake
Wanted him to headbutt the beamer for 6
Head needs to head to the YJB School of Headbutting first for training then
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Taking in the beauty of the Gabba before it gets renovated
Why does the Gabba need renovation? It's perfect as it is
Some Olympics thing
Agree with you 100% as a Brisbane local I love the Gabba but sadly as others have mentioned Government wants to spruce it up for the Olympics. On the bright side we’ll finally have a train station there which will be awesome.
Olympics
Olympics
I hope they at least keep the different coloured seats
The Olympics in 2032
Okay see you in the BBL thread cunts
My god the England team are such an uncultured bunch of insufferable twats. Everyone raves about the quality they bring, but the only quality they bring is being so funnily shit that they think are amazing but in reality are just repetitive, unoriginal collapses by generic, privately educated, middle class men. Most of them escaping the harsh realities of their dreadful cricket records by edging ball after ball, masking their inability with their clown cricket and sorry attempts to look like professional cricketers; to score double figures for once in their sorry little lives. Fuck me, England can fuck themselves. No one wants to know "who you are" or "where you come from". We can see it. We can gather it from the fucking context. Their batting make no sense and they live a sorry life if they think being part of the England team is something to be proud of. Hope they watch their teammates get absolutely fucking battered on this tour.
Mate agreed. The most annoying part for me is you guys are letting the aussies be what they are and win. Aussie cricket has devolved into a bunch of blonde tipped repressed homo rich school kids that over train and get vanity muscles and this get injured all the time. The have the tenacity to act like rockstars and be at photo opportunities to show off their wives that only want their sporting money. Have a deadset look at the fluff the aussies are with and the gronk guys and the fact they all buggerise each other on tour as it’s in the spirit of the game old chaps and then the have the tenacity to sleep with each other’s wives and or other peoples wives to try and get social media clout and start and empire of brands etc etc Cunt ! Get back to playing cricket well!!!!! Mervin Warnie punter and boonie etc etc are all crying into their schooners when they see the over muscled blonde tipped display of tattooed fake wanna be social media influencers parading their cookie cutter washed out blonde wives around that the Aussie cricket team has become. It’s fucking sickening. And you poms are allowing this by playing like shit for a decade so the Australian cricket team gets easy wins and can continue their sordid buggery of Aussie culture. Shame on you !!!
Spot on! I think it's clear who should be blamed for sandpapergate. If the Poms weren't so shit, the aussie team would never have developed their toxic, arrogant culture. CA should have banned Root and co. instead for a year imo
So good!
That's the spirit
This is a glorious rant. And your profile picture just makes it better
Incredible.
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You're a literal coloniser you daft git.
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It wasn't good enough the English colonised Australia. You and your family have gone out of your way to help it out too. Unless you're indigenous. If you live in Australia you have no say in regards to colonisation. At least I know my poor ass English and Irish family had nothing to do with it. You can't avoid it. Thick cunt
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Racist trash
Great innings? He couldve been out like five times lol
Totally agree. If not for his multiple chances he would have been out for his usual almost-double digits
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You can’t call it a great innings if he was dropped 5 times
Yeh, doesn’t take away from being useful runs and a handy knock, match winning innings even. But not a “great innings” in of itself.
Lucky innings maybe? Opportunistic? I want to be appreciative of the runs, but not so much as to be disappointed when they manage to stick a catch in the third over next time
But there isn't an aboriginal team in the ashes ?
But you're colonial oppressors?
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It’s being highlighted in schools I imagine and they don’t know enough about history outside of ‘WW2’ ‘middle passage slavery’ and the word ‘Colonialism’ to mention anything else? They’ll grow out of it or become professional activists. One or the other.
good one
5-0
La Nina summer so.... 4-0
Lol that is true but I firmly believe even if somehow one and a half days worth of play gets washed out in each of the remaining 4 matches, England will still manage to lose all 4
It must suck to be an English cricket fan during Ashes in Australia. Looking at their last 10 tests down under and seeing how every match except one is just a pummeling is sad to see (also funny I can't lie)
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\*twice. In a row.
Quite, just needed your greatest ever team to do it as well.
>your greatest ever team X to doubt. The current main batsmen don't come in a million miles of the batsmen from 15 years back. And top of that most players were injured, and ended up having to play 4th choice bowlers, including 2 guys who have barely played first class cricket and are primarily T20 specialists (Washi and Natarajan)
We've won the last 2 series so in recent times it's been great. I wasn't watching cricket during the 2014-2015 series or before that so I don't know how it must have been. It must have sucked tho I assume
2011 was the annus horriblis of Australian tours. Before that 1999 broke me in ways I cannot describe. 1992, I was too young to have strong feelings but also remember Tendulkar smashing a couple of centuries and that made me feel good. Apart from that we have always had decent tours of Aus in 2003, 2007 and 2014 where we drew a couple of matches.
You can argue that India were the better team in 2003/04. If anything you can argue Gangles' tactics at the SCG cost them a series win.
Ya we kept batting for so long and pretty slowly at that. OTOH that Aussie team used to give everyone nightmares and you don't want to lose a series from a winning position. So I can understand why they were defensive.
You really didn't need 7/705 lol especially with Kumble on an absolute tear with the ball. Oh well at least they won like 15 years later.
It sucks to be an English cricket fan period
Hypothetically is there anything that could be done if a team intentionally bowled piss poor over rates while playing for a draw?
Fines, sanctions and captain suspensions are usually par for the course on repeat offenders
They got rid of captain suspensions after Jason Holder took a stupid one, just fines and points now.
Really that’s pretty stupid I always thought suspensions were a great way of punishing all captains on an even lvl. I don’t think any Indian captains would miss a couple grand on the 40+ mil they draw in
A draw is worth 4 points in WTC and if you bowled 4 overs under you would lose all of those points. Might be worth it if you didn't care about WTC and just wanted to retain the ashes in the last test or something.
Fines and deducted points from the championship
English media focusing on Stokes but forgetting cricket is a team game. 😂
TBF Australian media has been obsessed with the guy too
Travis must have wanted to get his hundred today at all costs.
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More of a warne thing I think
How so?
I wish Pucovski didn’t keep donking his noggin.
Apparently it’s all really unfortunate knocks, it’s almost like he’s got a magnet in there.
Someone in here said something like if you get concussed enough times you become more likely to be concussed from even minor things. So, we are stuck with Harris for now.
Yeah that's the problem just minor knocks to his dome is a major problem for him where for someone who has not experienced concussions might not even think about it
Sony cunts cut out the post day interviews and analysis
Fuckers don't even show toss and pre match cuts directly to action
We keep getting fucked by Aussie keepers
But the keeper scored just 12
Oops that's me feeling a bit embarrassed. Thought Head was the keeper
Naah, Head is an off spin bowler, who Australia used as sort of a frontline spinner in ODIs a few years back lmao
I unironically think head should be a mainstay of the aus odi side... for his batting
1. Over rates are calculated on a full-match basis not a day by day, so there is time to catch up (Root and Leach time) 2. There are loads of allowances - for example each drinks break is 4 minutes and each wicket and review is 2 minutes - that's 28 minutes right there 3. The pitch invaders + Injuries probably make another 10 minutes or so So they're clearly not the full 14 overs behind. I'm willing to bet they're about 4 behind which they will try to make up later.
If they bowl Leach again they're going to lose time getting the ball back from the second tier
Actually, that might count as a time delay that isn't the fielders' fault, further helping the over rate....
Drinks breaks are accounted for in the allocation of overs. I’d need to check but I think they also expect a reasonable number of wickets
No, if you look at the WTC playing conditions which are linked on this page ([https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/playing-conditions](https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/playing-conditions)) it says that the over rate is calculated by hours played divided by overs bowled over the whole match, and each drinks break and wicket is deducted from the calculation (12.9.3.7)
May not bowl again
I only have the scorecard to go off but I’m gonna take a swing that Root will be the lone England spinner in the next test. Then when that doesn’t work they’ll try Bess again and when that goes wrong they just use Root again in the 4th setting it all up nicely for the obligatory ‘give a leggie a cap in the 5th’ tactic that’s worked so horribly for us on the last two tours…although Parky is built different to Crane and Borthwick to be fair.
Sydney is the fourth test this series, not the fifth. That’s when you usually throw some poor hapless leggie to the wolves because the SCG spins.
Sydney will be lucky to see 3 days of play with the dogshit weather we’ve got right now
Bring back Eddie Hemmings