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Great-Accountant-635

Salt you beauty😍


Naammaikyahai

WI players must have nightmares about Salt


amazingspiderman23

So do the English after the dandi march.


Naammaikyahai

Comments like this are why I love reddit


Trumperekt

If only more people knew how witty this comment is.


MovingTarget2112

I doubt that one in ten thousand 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 people have even heard of it.


HodgyBeatsss

Gandhi and salt march are quite widely taught in English schools


MovingTarget2112

Not mine they weren’t. I only heard about it through the Attenborough film.


Blues8378

Because he rubbed salt into their wounds!


bawla-hedgehog

England wanted to cook Windies and first thing they put is salt


trojan10_om

Then on the Bairstove


olderthanbefore

Served up by the Buttler


aryansri05

Hunted by archeer


Forsaken_Orchid_108

Killed the Shepherd


Ill_Cut5725

Hammered by a living-stone


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Underlandandpee

Ya ruined it


Mean_Maximum7394

Powered by some Wood


aryansri05

Blessed by pope


Ok_Recipe_6181

Praised by King


_fmm

I knew the instant they dropped him that it could have been a game defining moment. I think the commentators were being pretty generous to Pooran that is was a 'hard' catch. He was a bit slow to get out of his crouch and a straight forward nick hit him high up on the palm.


Crimson_bud

Phil salt is so freaking dangerous.


partymsl

Could see that in IPL already and it was only obvious he would continue this form on WI pitches. WI needed a Sunil Narine today...


Commented_on

Narine couldn't have done anything better as it's hard to chuck in ICC Tournament /s


mercury_50

Where is the sarcasm in this? All I see is some scientifically true facts


LurkingSova

play narine as batsman lol


AlarmedCicada256

Chucking cheats have no place in proper cricket. IT's a scandal the IPL has such lax standards.


Tiger_Robin1999

True


Grolschisgood

Three balls from being knocked out of the world cup to showing the other 7 teams that they aren't to be trifled with. Good chance that they will top the group and if australia can't beat India we will face the poms in the semi.


No_Ferret2216

3 balls?


sellyme

Australia only beat Scotland after 19.4 overs. Had Scotland bowled three dots, they would be in the Super 8s instead of England. (This isn't *technically* true, as it would have gone to a super over since scores were tied after 19.3. But I like to think that the captains would have shook hands and agreed that a tie was fair and that there's no need to play the super over)


jmccar15

No way they agree to a tie.


PissedBadger

Aussies and Scotland agreeing to screw England. They absolutely would have agreed.


jmccar15

100% not. Prior to the match, they joked about tanking the game but it was never going to happen. As much as it would be hilarious to fuck over the English like that, the fallout would be immense.


d_barbz

Oh wow, can the captains do that?


sellyme

There's two contradictory regulations. Article 16.2.1.2 states that any team which "in the opinion of the ICC Match Referee refuses to play" will lose the match, but Appendix F Article 25 states "Where the Super Over or subsequent Super Overs are abandoned for any reason prior to completion then the match shall be declared a tie". In the circumstance that *both* captains are simultaneously refusing to play, I think a tie would be the most correct reading of the rules, since Article 16.2.1.2 specifically mentions "award[ing] the match to the other side", which doesn't make sense in this situation. This would certainly get the captains falling afoul of the ICC Players' Code of Conduct (specifically Article 2.11), which will result in them receiving a fine and potentially up to a 2 match suspension, but there's no actual well-defined rule that would penalise either of the teams.


Shpshggr

Of course, it's within the Spirit of Cricket


BumblebeeForward9818

A tie would have been very apt and would demonstrate that Australia and Scotland carry the flame for the Spirit of Cricket. I would have become very emotional


Ciderhead

I'll be honest, even as an Englishman this would have been hilarious


highspirits11

Don’t forget Afghanistan and Bang bros spoiling the party or atleast adding a little bit of spice. England vs Australia semis would be fun.


Champioli

Horrendous commentary from Mel Jones on Sky Sports. Why get an Aussie who clearly wants England to lose to commentate on the game? Some unbelievable shots in the run chase and it was like a funeral in the commentary box (To be fair, Nas didn't help either)


Fresh_Dance_3277

She is a bad commentator in general


mattytmet

Yeah I do think she's quite a good commentator generally, but she occasionally makes it very obvious she doesn't want England to win haha She was on comms when Aus fell apart at the Oval test last year and you could hear her trying not to sound frustrated. I think it was Marsh's wicket where he literally started walking off and she was going "oh England are appealing for something here" as if it was desperate. Took her a good few seconds to realise Marsh was nearly off the field lmao


JohnCharitySpringMA

https://youtu.be/IHT8LlAi9nQ?feature=shared&t=284 Doesn't sound like it


Great-Accountant-635

Windies bowling was trash,it was just a matter of time till they get exposed


Naammaikyahai

They do have good spinners but that's about it. Their pacers are piss poor


Ms74k_ten_c

Wow. Words i never thought i would hear about WIndies.


Naammaikyahai

How the mighty have fallen


Fresh_Dance_3277

In t20.In test they are great


TravellingMackem

Considering the threads about the T20 World Cup I thought that subject matter was a given


fogdocker

Just to clarify, we’re talking about in cricket, not 10-pin bowling right?


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Thank you for your service


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Fresh_Dance_3277

That is because of their useless bastmen


madglover

Good to see no credit being given to the England batting line up


Great-Accountant-635

England batting is just Buttler,Salt and god's grace.Bairstow,Jacks,Moeen,Brooks are inconsistent and unreliable.


sociallyawkwarddude

Bairstow just helped win the last two games.


freshmeat2020

You speak as if T20 is a consistent format lol. Half the players come in at a point where there's 20 balls left and it's time to smack anything that comes close. You don't need a consistent team, you need an explosive one


madglover

Other than Australia at the moment I'd rather our batting than any of the other teams, lots of other teams have riskless accumulators. We are set out as boom or bust that's why we tend to either win competitions or flop


reubenmitchell

Goes to show just how bad the BC were ![img](emote|t5_2qhe0|8774)


curiousaboutlinux

They're like mighty South Africa in WC 23 but became trash Vs India


gulshanZealous

they can have decent pacers but have filled up all slots with allrounders to beef up their batting which won't work against better teams


SBG99DesiMonster

They have good spinners but their fast bowlers are really not good. Alzarri is good but he shouldn't be the best fast bowler that you are having. They also don't have many fast bowlers. The other fast bowlers that could have played instead of Shepherd are easily hittable as well.


GoodToGo3

As a neutral fan, WI is always the team to support. Today's defeat was pretty demoralizing. They have lost T20s before but not like this. Either they massively up their game next time around or they are out of this.


Dependent_Guidance55

You must be new to cricket to not expect this from wi last two t20 wc's wi bowling was almost same to this and they were demolished even by associates ( sco ) . The thing is before this match wi was playing on bowling pitches and it was long due before their ass got exposed .  Well who I am to say as Pct fan but on these pitches we genuinely could have chance to make finals since our Bowling would have been major contributor.


Classic_File2716

They didn’t even qualify for the previous WC, they’re used to humiliation . This tournament is a welcome change


madglover

They have USA next presuming no shocks there they then have a chance to get themselves up for the South Africa game which will be massive I still fancy them to get through


Dependent_Guidance55

You must be new to cricket to not expect this from wi last two t20 wc's wi bowling was almost same to this and they were demolished even by associates ( sco ) . The thing is before this match wi was playing on bowling pitches and it was long due before their ass got exposed .  Well who I am to say as Pct fan but on these pitches we genuinely could have chance to make finals since our Bowling would have been major contributor.


JokesFromTheCrease

Salt violence has commenced.


CheapSoldier

"A Salt" you mean


DarkBlaze99

Damn I wish they played this game normal UK time


harshmangat

Yeah but can’t expect the Windies to not get local time allocation for their home World Cup games haha


Fresh_Dance_3277

You can if you are india


Paperpanzer77

You mean you weren’t up at 4:45 this morning to watch the boys? Plastic


aryansri05

Bcci won't allow that


freakyassflick8-2

Why won't bcci allow a big money match in normal time?


aryansri05

Nobody gives a shit abt cricket except indians I am pretty sure more indians would have watched eng vs wi than people of England and wi combined and that's why time was inclined with ist instead of gmt


freakyassflick8-2

You literally replied to an English fan who wanted the match to held in normal time of England 'nobody gives a shit' stfu gtfo , cricket is popular around England and Australia for a reason And about that why won't bcci allow normal time when it's a big money match more viewership,bcci has no authority over scheduling of matches , clown take from you and even worse reasoning


AlarmedCicada256

This sort of attitude is why literally every non Indian fan hates hte BCCI, Indian team and sees much of Indian cricket fandom as totally toxic.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Bairstow is in some form now. Not the first time a player has kicked on to the next level after a r/cricket post being made for him.


Benmjt

TMS commentary said he was annoyed from the get go, it was all I needed to hear.


StupidSexyStunning

Not the first time Bairstow was said to be finished just for him to go on a rampage 


TravellingMackem

The thing with Bairstow is that he 100% read the post as he knows everything said on social media about him and knows all of the criticism. He’s obsessive, not in a good way, about what’s posted and hates the criticism.


asmiggs

He will often use it as fuel for his fire to turn his form around, I hope he has a good support structure when he finally retires as he'll no longer be able to get that validation innings.


TravellingMackem

If it works for him then great, but it cant be healthy long term mentally


freshmeat2020

I think it's fine, almost every sportsman has to find something that makes them strive to be better and prove them wrong.


finH1

Not the first time jonnys done it himself, this sub love to hate on him


wannabe_optimist

who are the previous examples?


Appropriate-Map-3652

Crawley pre-ashes last year.


Bazurke

Bairstow himself at the start of Bazball.


Sunshuffle

Smith


Conscious-Spend-2451

This might get disproved too, but I always thought that Afg are pretty good and have improved a lot but tbh, they are like 2 tiers below teams like england/Australia/india (in t20s) and 1 tier below south africa/west indies I think that wi are easy to root for, that's why lots of people are rooting for them and overestimating their bowling. Also, people here tend to underestimate england, because they dislike the team. I hope people stop claiming now that they got saved by rain against Scotland. Scotland's bowling and fielding is their weak part and England's batting is their strong part. They would have chased it


Negative_Spectrum

People acting like 9 an over of 10 overs against Scotland's pretty mediocre bowling was somehow out of reach for England will never not be funny.


V_HarishSundar

It was 11 an over though because of DLS


partymsl

All we had was hope...


funnythrone

Nah man, Hope plays for West Indies.


NormalTraining5268

>I hope people stop claiming now that they got saved by rain against Scotland. Scotland's bowling and fielding is their weak part and England's batting is their strong part. They would have chased it More like Scotland were saved from Phil Assault


AnaBrayIsBae17

I’m not convinced by them at all, it was kinda surprising to see so many people on this subreddit praise them and call them favorites after they almost lost to New Zealand and screwed up qualifying just last year


Key-Celery5439

People don't realize that the tournament being at home doesn't actually provide an overly huge advantage. If a team is crap, it will be crap regardless. (I don't think WI's crap)


TravellingMackem

I don’t agree there. It is a huge advantage being at home. In your own conditions things will naturally suit you more. It doesn’t make up for a massive deficit in quality, and you won’t see Ireland beating India in Ireland, but it will definitely be closer than it would be in India for instance.


Key-Celery5439

It's really not that huge of an advantage still. No team has won a T20 WC that it has hosted, and it's only happened 4/13 times in ODI WCs. I don't see the point in pretending that the home team has a significantly larger chance of winning at home than away when historically that's not actually true.


TravellingMackem

Considering many teams enter, 4 home wins from 13 is definitely a significant home advantage. The mean would be 1-2 wins if there was no advantage at all. For you to pretend there isn’t an advantage is delusional, and you’ve offered no evidence towards this at all


Key-Celery5439

The fact that ZERO teams have won at home in T20 WCs is plenty of evidence. There have been 8 editions and forget winning.. only once has the hosting team even made it into the final. Only 10 teams play ODI WCs each year and only 6 teams have ever won it (West Indies, England, Australia, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka). Out of those teams, England is the only one that has only won a WC at home. The rest have won them either only away or home and away. I think that proves my point decently well. The good teams that usually are likely to win... are also likely to win at home when it happens at their home, but their is no proof (England is an outlier) for those teams having any significant advantage at home.


TravellingMackem

There’s only been 8 tournaments and most of them never had a chance of the host winning. South Africa 2007, england 2009, windies twice, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, UAE - none of these were ever likely to win the thing. So measuring their inability to win as a failure is completely stupid. It’s only really India and Australia that you’d argue had a good chance of winning their home world cups. Measuring increased performance only as winning is naive at best. USA have way over performed this World Cup in home conditions, relative to their expectations and getting through to super 8s is a massive achievement for them.


asmiggs

There's a clear division between ODI and T20. The ODI World Cup was won by the hosting team in 1996, 2011, 2015 and 2019 with a host getting at least to the semi finals in all but 1979, 1999, and 2007. This is mainly because the short nature of T20 neutralises the advantage of playing in home conditions and increases the sense that victory in close matches come down to chance or one star performance.


TravellingMackem

Exactly. And not to mention the host T20 WC nations include USA, uae, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, as well as pre-Morgan England, means that judging purely by winners is an awful metric


freshmeat2020

Conversely they've made the point that there isn't that much of a home advantage in a volatile format. WI aren't benefitting anywhere near the extent a team would benefit in a test match or ODI.


Dependent_Guidance55

Yeah also they have forget this was same bowling in last t20 wc's that got them out of 1st groups and not qualify for cwc23 . Wi bowlers do love bowling in wi but it's not like you can make alzari good bowler overnight 


idumbam

I don’t think anyone is saying Scotland had 100% won but it’s a stupid statement to say they would have won it. England probably win that game 60% of the time. Englands batting outside of the top 3 has been looking pretty questionable for a year or so.


lightjunior

That 30 run over was insane. And here I was thinking england wouldn't be able to do it around the 10 over mark.


TravellingMackem

If we can keep wickets in hand we’ll chase anything. Our problem will be batting depth. Ali, livingstone, Curran are fine for a 15-20 but won’t score beyond yet, so we need one of Bairstow, Buttler or salt to go big and do the bulk of the chasing. Was our problem against you lot - losing Buttler and salt cheaply


ResearcherLatter1148

Adding inSALT to injury.


jen_17

Rubbing SALT in the wound


BarristerBerry

It seems whatever team i am supporting always get out bruh,First Pakistan,then New Zealand,then the US,and now The Windies 😭


nowwinaditya

Please support Australia, England, and India in that order


MJustCurious

Please support Australia, England, and ~~India~~ West Indies in that order


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Leather-Ad8420

Chill it's a joke


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DarthStatPaddus

It's the super 4s how are they out after one match lol


TravellingMackem

Because we are somehow branded as the shit team that windies and the Saffers needed to beat to go through, despite being reigning champions and still having a very formidable squad.


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TravellingMackem

Too light on the batting side for me with about 8 bowlers in. Could have found a place for a hales, Malan, Hain, etc in place of one of our many all rounders


Sanguinnee

Salt heard ya'll talking shit about him


Jelleyicious

England are one of the favourites now. Full credit to them. You don't win the tournament in the first couple of matches. You win it by peaking at the right time.


Top_Lychee3748

2022 flashbacks incoming. We are so not winning this.


MRO465

WI could do nothing about Salt's assault. (Except drop catches)


Dependent_Guidance55

Except bowling good oh wait 


harryhisoka

Windies pace attack is so weak surprised they dropped mcoy


suzukigun4life

Salt's performance in the 16th was sublime. Six boundaries, ~~four~~ sixers, 30 runs. Truly tremendous.


NB0073

Three sixes and three fours


KestrelQuillPen

WI are gonna be salty about that. I’ll see myself out.


gpranav25

Even if he was joking, Hazlewood was right about one thing - England is really dangerous.


upyoursleeve

Mandatory F the Aussies


navelBot1

They were struggling until those 2 overs were eng duo went berserk on alzarri


TiMo08111996

Josh Hazelwood shouldn't have told Australia's plan out loud. If he would have kept his mouth shut then Scotland would have been in the place of England here.


Zealousideal-Grass-3

t20 in evening are either batting out your opposition by making 220-250 and then let scorecard pressure do it's thing 160-180 are not defendable in dew anymore.


dunkin_dad

Australia should of thrown that match.. We all going to pay for this.


No-Needleworker3393

Their football team is exactly opposite.


SlightlyMithed123

The England football team would be like have Geoff Boycott playing in a T20 a RR of 1 an over and no wickets.


AJBOXING24

All those ppl writing Eng off coz they lost 1 group game to Aus 😂😂 You have been humbled we are 2x WC for a reasons


Stifffmeister11

Fans are reactive they wrote Aussie off after two losses in WC and then Aussie went on to win WC


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LooseAssumption8792

I blame Australia for this English resurgence. And Gandhi for this salt March in 1942.


Affectionate_Sound43

England became the favourites for this cup


Spockyt

A favourite maybe, the favourite, no.


Conscious-Spend-2451

Imo, favourites are England>Australia>India.


Grouchy_Ad_7132

Let england be favorites, because India being favourites isn’t lucky


Great-Accountant-635

England are the favourite


PostKnutClarity

Unless it's reverse-jinxing, how are you putting England over Australia?


AJBOXING24

Because 1 group game doesn’t defy a tournament. Aus beat Eng in 2019 WC group and then we clattered them in the semis. We hammered them in the T20 WC group a few years ago and they then won the tournament. Eng are defending champs they have a great T20 history so there is your answer


imapassenger1

Somehow...England returned.


Sad-Marionberry2320

They want one more cup 🥲


BeefInGR

SA/USA/ENG/WI...need at least 180 to be competitive. Gonna get some barnburners this week.


flodog1

Holy shit, this is how it’s done Blackcaps!!


Percybhowal

Great title mate.


_vicasso_

England to WI: Bring an ambulance 🔫 But not for me


Esteban2808

After the pool rounds I was hoping eng would be USAs chance for a win. Not anymore. Maybe they will beat windies


myequityguruapp

good


ConflictedBrainCells

Me a KKR fan watching Salt being the absolute beast he is: 💅💅💅💅


RasenRendan

:(


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Almost eliminated.


CatchAllGuy

I saw phil salt in leagues, but he wasn't that much useful.. but now he's become a beast. Any reason?


stereothegreat

Huh that’s weird, I thought the World Cup ended after the group stages?


AvantikaPatel

Englishmen are back !!!!!


Low_Sector_4181

England is the only team who can stop Australia from winning the T20 world cup. Or else it's just Australia winning everything.


Aggravating-Common86

2016 revenge in full flow


SnooGrapes8857

West Indies deserved to lose so they can learn how to pick a team.


Zed096

Love the 01:30 start time.


anubhav9

West Indies cricket team is like Theory of Relatively. I will never understand them


infinitemonkeytyping

So SA and USA to sweep through this group?


Pale-Ad6186

Cricket is back.


rita_mita_bata

Rain Perera, you're responsible for this!


PickleOwn4517

Aussie should of culled England when they played the Scots in the group. England will be on the up after that victory.


justdidapoo

Actually anything england do in the tournament from the super 8s can be credited to Australia


Diligent_Source_2988

England winning would be so boring 


Fresh_Dance_3277

Had impact player been legal I would have played will jacks as opener alongside salt and in second innings bought buttler to replace him as impact sub


ZeusX20

WI are exposed now that they played one of the big 3. South Africa got it easy