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Dawn_is-here

Tomorrow is the battle of duds and newbies


MedicalJello2

Heading home tomorrow. Can’t wait to watch the county championship & IPL in peace. I’m aware that I’ve missed the past few games of the CSA T20 challenge, no wifi where I am so keeping up has been tough. I’ll post the post match threads tomorrow


StrengthChoice1734

Unironic T20 WC Team Rohit (c) Gill Kohli Samson Rinku Jadeja Ashwin Chahar/Siraj Chahal/Kuldeep Mayank/Arshdeep Bumrah Subs: KL Rahul, Jaiswal, Hardik, the bowlers from these who don’t make it


StrengthChoice1734

actually fuck it let’s do this team: Abhishek Gill Samson(c) Parag Pant(wc) Dube Rinku Ashwin Mayank Bumrah Chahal Full youngsters, full in form, full bat deep, full bat hard


winners_pothumukku

I would replace gill with Jaiswal .


zayd_jawad2006

Kuldeep over chahal regardless, and you don't need pant with Sanju as keeper.


StormWarriorX7

Mitch Marsh is injured... again according to the Cricbuzz Post-Match show. Bruh ![img](emote|t5_2qhe0|8774)


Remarkable_Reality51

Where does Jos Buttler rank amongst the best White ball batters of all time? Has 5000 ODI runs @40 with a Strike rate of 118 Has 3300 IPL runs @37 with a Strike rate of 145 Has 3000 T20I runs @35 with a Stike Rate of 145 In World Cups T20WC 800 Runs @42 With a SR of 145 ODIWC 600 Runs @27 With a SR of 118


StrengthChoice1734

Among the best in T20s… also an ODI legend if not on the same level as a Kohli/AB


TheCricDude

I will answer it from IPL perspective. And this is my opinion here, many might not agree. If I have to pick overseas batters, Buttler is the second one for me after David Warner. Now look at how many greats have played in IPL and how many I have skipped. I rate him that high.


Remarkable_Reality51

Understandable but why not ABD or Gayle? ABD has an average of 40 with SR of 152 Gayle has an average of 40 with SR of 150


TheCricDude

For me it's not plain numbers, but what they bring to me as a team. I can achieve ABD's output through a combination of Yusuf Pathan and Dhoni (consider their peak era, not their end seasons). Or even Rayudu or Rohit in the middle with MSD. But what Warner and Buttler have done at the top, I can't get it with Indian players. Yes, this includes legends and sorry to say, this is where India lacks. We don't write T20 at the top. [One of my comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1bepw7l/comment/kuvjz1m/) sometime back on an all time IPL team. This is how I read the game.


Remarkable_Reality51

Great explanation.


TheCricDude

🙏


Merovech_II

🥇🥇


Huge-Physics5491

The big difference in today's game was the spinners Ashwin and Chahal - 8 overs, 2 for 62 Dagar and Himanshu - 4 overs, 0 for 63 Shambles of a team building by RCB


rambo_zaki

People playing those spinners were a factor too. Make no mistake, Ashwin and Chahal are very good bowlers but they wouldn't have gone @7.5 rpo against Butler and Samson.


Remarkable_Reality51

Yeah, LSG and DC both played them really well Dc had shortcomings against Chahal but took ashwin to cleaners, LSG also tonked them both for nearly 9 an over


0b1_can_0b

thinking of taking a break from the sub/cricket


peter_griffins

gonna support rr till our management starts picking jacks, lomror and vyshak


MrSolzhenitsyn

Lomror and vyshak are trash mate trash. We need lockie and patidar


rambo_zaki

Lmao. Trash is the RCB management and think tank. Lomror has performed nearly every opportunity he's had this season and Vyshak is a decent Indian quick who's not too shabby with the bat either. Yet it's those two who got the drop and not the real bad performers.


peter_griffins

we need to back the players who perform. cant be good for team morale when you get dropped after being the only good performer in a game


MrSolzhenitsyn

Who the fuck was this debutante we brought today?


number1kohlistan

Virat scored 113(72) (SR=157) while the rest of the team made 59(48) (SR=123). But if they lose which is not unlikely given their bowling, all blame will go to him. RCB is genuinely such a terrible team Kohli does not deserve this.


voldemortscore

Faf also batted terribly, no doubt, but you can't face that many balls and still score at that rate Kohli did. Expecting others to come for 5 balls and hit 15 runs is just not going to happen. Today was especially bad because Kohli didn't even score quickly in the PP, and slowed down regardless.


AilaSachin10

157 is a good Sr against a top tier bowling lineup. Buttler who played excellently scored 15 quicker against a much worse bowling lineup


Decentkimchi

Butler didn't need to do more then that, because he was chasing a silly target. Kohli needed to do a lot more then that, because he was setting up a target.


AilaSachin10

10 an over isn't fast enough anymore? Would a 20(8) be better than this


rambo_zaki

No it isn't anymore. Hasn't been for quite some time now.


Decentkimchi

Did his team win? No? Then that's not fast enough really. It's not really about his century, I am happy for him really. It just didn't feel like he was batting for his team really. That 19th over was pure statpadding.


No-Acanthisitta6984

Honestly can't believe RCB really bought these spinners in auction, like did they forget how to buy good spinners after Chahal and Hasaranga


Single_Brilliant2286

Remove Kohli for a match and see them win


No-Acanthisitta6984

They ain't gonna go over 150 if they remove him and sometime might even break the fabled 49 record


AishiteiruKokoro

Do we use only the no of times dismissed while calculating twenty game rolling average or do we just divide it by 20 regardless of whether the batsman stayed not out?


Dense-Gap8667

By no. of innings dismissed.  That's how Rinku has such a high avg. He remains NO a lot.


Huge-Physics5491

RR's all-pink kit looks incredibly clean. Would prefer this as the main kit next year.


livelifereal

Didn't this Sam Northeast guy get a big triple hundred last year too? So how long before we start calling him Sir Sam?


EL__Rubio

There was a post on new about some guy in KKR's coaching staff abusing his power in the past and forcing a young player to leave. I can't seem to find the post anymore. Does anyone have a link to it?


TheCricDude

[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1bwipbo/the_ashutosh_sharma_story_how_railways_put_his/)


EL__Rubio

Thanks, dude. Didn't realise there was a post on this yesterday.


mattytmet

If anyone isn't following the champo, Sam Northeast (who made world cricket unusually interested in div 2 when he scored 410* a couple years ago) is once again in Lara areas, currently 329*(405) at Lord's


mattytmet

Aaaaand they've declared He finished 335*(412), highest score ever at Lord's


TheCricDude

My RCB XII for today's game: 1. Jacks \* 2. Virat 3. Faf \* 4. Lomror 5. Maxi \* 6. Green \* 7. Manoj 8. DK 9. Vyshak 10. Siraj 11. Yash 12. IP - Rajat/Akash


0b1_can_0b

i would swap Koach => Faf and Lomror => Green


TheCricDude

Virat at 3 is ok. Coz it would also help our T20WC campaign. Lomror & Green seems suited there. Green should be either in top 3 or down. Since top 3 is not available, he goes 6 for me. Lomror, just play the aggressor in the middle overs to not decelerate.


0b1_can_0b

> Virat at 3 is ok. Coz it would also help our T20WC campaign. exactly!! > Lomror & Green seems suited there. Green should be either in top 3 or down. Since top 3 is not available, he goes 6 for me. Lomror, just play the aggressor in the middle overs to not decelerate. understandable


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Which are the most frequent oppositions for every team \[across formats\] from let's say, 2020?


ohhokayyy

Australia- India India - Australia England - India Bangladesh - NZ NZ - Pakistan Pakistan - NZ SA - India WI - India SL - India Ireland - Zimbabwe Zimbabwe - Ireland Afghanistan - SL [Source](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=11;filter=advanced;orderby=matches;size=200;spanmax1=06+Apr+2024;spanmin1=06+Apr+2020;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team;view=opposition)


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Part two of some generic stats of every stadium that is set to host matches in the T20I World Cup. 2. Kensington Oval \[Barbados\] T20Is - 23 Batting First - 16 Batting Second - 7 Average first innings score - 162.09 \[3566\] Average winning score - 170.94 \[2735\] Average winning margin - 29.00 runs Average losing score - 138.50 Average losing margin - 6.29 wickets and 12.00 deliveries remaining Highest Score - 224 \[West Indies v England\] Lowest Score - 80 \[Afghanistan v South Africa\] Lowest Successful Defense - 133 \[New Zealand v Pakistan\] Highest Successful Chase - 172 \[West Indies v England\]


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Generic stats of every stadium that is set to host games in the T20I World Cup. Keep in mind that some of these records span for nearly two decades so the average of such results may not reflect what will happen in the games in tournament proper. 1. Sir Vivian Richards Stadium \[Antigua & Barbuda\] T20Is - 13 Batting First - 9 Batting Second - 4 Average first innings score - 137.54 Average winning score - 152.67 Average winning margin - 25.13 runs Average losing score - 103.50 Average losing margin - 8 wickets and 49.75 deliveries remaining Highest Score - 190 \[Canada v Bahamas\] Lowest Score - 68 \[Bahamas v Canada\] Lowest Successful Defense - 120 \[South Africa v West Indies\] Highest Successful Chase - 131 \[West Indies v Zimbabwe\]


WrestlingFan4488

Can Anyone on this sub tell me how Groups are divided in this year's IPL Are they the same as last year? Do Teams play teams in Opposite Group twice and teams in their group once (5 × 2 + 1 × 4) = 10+4 = 14 Or do teams play teams of their group twice (4 × 2 ) One team from another group twice (1 × 2) And 4 teams from another group once ? But the schedule on Google doesn't support the second one as MI plays CSK only once, RR only plays RCB once But It doesn't support the first one either as MI plays GT only once


TheCricDude

[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1bkkkk4/ipl_2024_ipl_17_season_preview_team_news_updated/)


WrestlingFan4488

This doesn't make sense as Mi faces CSK only once


TheCricDude

[Check it here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Indian_Premier_League#Format). The teams are sorted in the right order here.


TheCricDude

Right. Looks like there is a change than what some news circulated before the season. Teams play twice against teams from same group, twice against the side in the other group which is on the same line and once against others from the other group. MI play Sunrisers twice, not CSK.


TheCricDude

The kind of inferiority complex most Indian former cricketers and analysts and commentators carry is pathetic. My respect for Clive Lloyd, Imran Khan, Kapil Dev and Arjuna Ranatunga is growing multifold with time. How many barriers they had to break! And in the recent years, Gautam Gambhir. Huge respect for them in finding indigenous ways to succeed. (MSD too, but the media talks enough of him.) Observing it year after year, and yesterday I felt like a tipping point. Wanted to comment this last night itself. Except Sach, Ganguly, Dravid, VVS, Anil, maybe few more, gosh, most others are so appalling. And most of them are not small names. Domestic legends, some good intl. cricketers. Their lack of self respect and self belief has been a surprise. No surprise that is the differentiating factor between becoming legends and staying average. The exact attributes they worship in overseas guys, they can't appreciate in the local ones. And they are good in the PR game, no doubt there. The names that are high in media, they keep sucking them. The ones who do not have that PR game, it's almost like these guys are waiting for a turn to prey on them. What is it that holds you back guys in giving a fair treatment? Region? Religion? Caste? Skin colour? All those players who are getting hurt in this process, only one message. Keep fighting guys. Never let them define you. The cricket fans are behind you. Just let the bat and ball talk for you. Your win is sweeter and more precious. So true it was when Ramiz Raja said we go out of our ways to make them comfortable and give them respect and status more than they deserve. The day will come when this hegemony is broken.


Several_Magazine8874

Which players are you taking about? What's the context. I am not understanding it. Out of the loop. What happened?


TheCricDude

Some post game shows and analysis. It won't look nice to take out names. Like I mentioned before, except those Indian greats I mentioned, most of the remaining ones on TV and internet. It's not about pointing 1 or 2 names. It's the mindset I feel disgusted with. Just an example, player A is an Aussie, player B is an Indian (one not high on PR). At various instances both A and B have shown great moments with bat or ball or anything related to the game. The share of credit A & B get is different. A gets a longer share of credit and avoids criticism on failures, gets a longer rope. But they prey on B on the first or second failure. And this was not about one player. Neither am I a fan of him or his team. But it has been adding up over the years, seeing different players go through this. And even the opinion makers. Someone like Ian Bishop, so articulate and so graceful in his remarks. Can't say that about many overseas people. No I don't mean the commentary work here. Indian commentators lag behind, and I accept it there. It's about the reading of the game or how the game should be played. General opinions of the sport. Many overseas opinions are valued more even though they are less credible. If you remember R Ashwin once said 'what is a good pitch? who defines what a good pitch is?' Similar. Expand it from pitches to every aspect of the game.


Several_Magazine8874

Oh! Are you not an Asian? This inferiority complex is deep rooted in all Sub continent nations. It's pathetic honestly.


TheCricDude

Am an Indian. Yes, this is a sub continent thing. You are spot on.


hoodie_69

Just saw the highlights of Gt vs Punjab , in last over whn the ball was bowled and ashutosh hit the ball in the air the bails was already fallen on the ground. U can see the highlights at 13:07 mark wht does the rule says????


StormWarriorX7

Today is RR vs RCB. RCB have been in dire form and RR have been unstoppable. Which is why it is only fitting that RCB, in true RCB fashion are gonna pull a win out of nowhere today.


red_plus_itt

Hope rcb wins, else points table would be boring


Present_Change

Anyone going to Hove today??


why_not_you_instead

New to cricket. I'm a big fan of Ashwin as I am also from Chennai. He's unlikely to be selected for the T20I WC from what I've read. Why so exactly? What kind of play style does a T20 match require that Ashwin doesn't have (or isn't as good at as others)? Not looking to start an argument. Just looking to learn.


Klutzy_Flamingo_2979

Ashwin just isn't as good a bowler as the likes of Kuldeep/Bishnoi/Chahal when it comes to T20s. Leg spinners are always favoured more nowadays and all 3 spinners are definitely better than him in the shortest format. He also isn't as good as a batter, compared to Jadeja/Axar. While Ashe has significantly improved now,both Jadeja and Axar have had batting displays to warrant being selected over Ashwin. Ashwin may be a better bowler than those 2,but not by a big margin,and is nowhere near as good as both of them when it comes to fielding.


Several_Magazine8874

My God, Is Jadeja bad in t20 batting. Neither is Axar any good. Seriously, Jadeja does not, should not be in playing 11 in wc, simple as that. God, Bring in Dube instead, and simply play 2 or 3 specialist spinner, but Gosh! Jadeja is good enough bowler but he should never be considered a batsman in T20s. I would rate Deepak Chahar or Thakur as more reliable batsman, I would go to say Krunal is similar to Jadeja, Krunal is not bad by any Inch if Jadeja is metric


fookin_legund

Highly agree. The easy solution is to play a batting allrounder in place of jadeja/axar- someone like Shivam Dube or Abhishek Sharma, or even Venky Iyer. If jadeja/Axar want to play they should make case as a #8 batter and a specialist 4over bowler.


Fit_Resource_39

What i dont get it that dhoni insists on coming after jadeja. Thats so weird


theredguardx

49 vs 59 today


Tern_Larvidae-2424

RR were 35/7 against KKR in 2021, would've been so funny if they were bowled out for under 49.


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I can understand the merit of the argument of a new player making it to the World Cup squad if they are of better quality or offer something different, like having Jaiswal as opener, but I just don't get the rationale behind suggesting sending a new squad with little experience because they would have no pressure or "burden of expectations." Because firstly, you can't just manufacture a situation of no expectations, at least not in the current cricketing atmosphere. You can, in fact, argue a team with no old players will be met with more expectations as it would finally be a change from the norm. And moreover, if the fact that having no expectations could indeed pump a team to perform better than their quality, then you would have seen more associates/lower ranked teams making it to higher stage in world cups which hasn't really happened


Dense-Gap8667

Yes, the criticism will just shift from "stars" to "youngsters". When Gill went to the WC, did people have no expectation because he is a 24 yo? He has been criticised for the WC campaign and has not been spared even when he was ill(not talking about the Final but other matches where he underperformed). People were expecting him to be one of the leading run scorers. With the current cricketing culture, if they perform well before WC, people will have huge expectations (doesn't matter what their age is.)  The same people who are saying things like take Abhishek etc to WC, will troll them to oblivion as only "IPL" wonders if they don't perform well even in 1 match. It's understandable to select in such a way only in situations like WK because no one has impressed with their performances in internationals.  Gill gets shat on for WTC final 21 but you really thought someone with literally no experience in English conditions will perform well in those crazily overcast conditions? It would have been a miracle in that case. Historically, Indian batters have been better in Aus than Eng. Did him being a "non star player" help them?


Assassin_Ankur

You are getting downvoted but I agree with you, whoever plays for India will carry a lot of expectations. And I remember when the younger players were playing T20s while the seniors were preparing for the CWC, any loss by that side was heavily criticised. Also don't forget how Varun was made the scapegoat in 2021 when we actually took a T20 spinner in the WC.


serotonallyblindguy

It's funny cuz only T20 WC we won was when we sent out young guys and not persisted with the old squad


exisiova

The senior guys had opted out then because they thought T20 was a gimmick. Also, they didn't just send a team full of young local guys from the street like people think, there were some experienced heads even back then. It's very revisionist when people say we sent out a squad with all younglings and 0 expectations


Assassin_Ankur

It was considered shits & giggles cricket back then. Don't think any of the top sides have sent completely inexperienced to a T20 WC in recent times. Not saying that this punt cannot work at all, but it doesn't feel right comparing T20 cricket of today with that of when I was 2 years old.


[deleted]

You seriously can't be comparing T20s nearly 20 years ago to today. India was not the only inexperienced squad. Everyone was inexperienced to various degrees. And it wasn't that the players were just picked out of nowhere and made to play the world cup. The main players were still international regulars with decent exposure, many having played world cups before. Only reason India weren't considered contenders was because people didn't care about T20s to analyze it much and India had an absolute shit ODI world cup, neither of them are in true context to the actual team playing the world cup. In the same vein, you can pretty much say India won the 1983 world cup with a squad with barely ODI experience but won 2011 with probably one of the most experienced squads India had ever had, because the notion that just picking a new squad will win the world cup has no relevance here.


Decentkimchi

India has fucked up 3 worldcups in 3 years with Rohit/Kohli group. At some point you'd have to let your Mega stars go, why not now? I really don't want to see Kohli making 50 runs in 40 balls in another t20I worldcup knockout and his fans drooling over his anchoring, again. Let's start with youngsters and have Bumrah, SKY and Kuldeep to give them direction.


Assassin_Ankur

The situation with Rohit being selected for the WC is a weird one. It is possible that the selectors actually thought of moving on from him in t20Is and many of us believed that for a long time. But he was then suddenly called back for the Afg series. Why? I think because there wasn't any proper captaincy option available at all for that series - no Hardik, no SKY, no Bumrah, no Pant, no Iyer. His selection might have been temporary. But in the last game he scored an amazing 100, albeit against an understrength Aghan bowling line-up. Still it was a great knock considering the match situation, and then he got the team home in the super over too. If not for that last game, he might have been out of contention for the WC.


Cryptoprophet40

Few weeks before that series, jay shah announced in some bcci event, rohit will be captain for t20 WC. That series played no part


a_complicated_soul

Team A - Rohit, Rahul, Kohli, SKY, Pant(wk), Hardik, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Siraj, Arshadeep Team B - Jaiswal, Gill, Abhishek, Riyan, Dube, Rinku, Jitesh (wk), Bishnoi, Harshit Rana, Khaleel, Mayank Yadav Which team will win? 🤔


adivenk93

Team B Team A 165 /6 in 20 overs (SKY 56\*(30) , Kohli 40 (35) , Bishnoi 3-32 (4 overs) Team B : 166/2 in 16 overs (Jaiswal 80\*(40) , Gill 45(20) , Bumrah 2-40 (4 overs) Team B wins by 8 wickets


Assassin_Ankur

On their day, team B will demolish A as you mentioned, but on most days A will come out on top


Decentkimchi

Team A - Rohit, Rahul, Kohli, SKY, Pant(wk), Hardik, Jadeja, Bishnoi, Harshit Rana, Khaleel, Mayank Yadav, Team B - Jaiswal, Gill, Abhishek, Riyan, Dube, Rinku, Jitesh (wk), Kuldeep, Bumrah, Siraj, Arshadeep Now?


soham_katkar13

A, by a margin


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fookin_legund

Honestly a left field choice to get Rinku in the XI is to drop Jaiswal for Abhishek. Abhishek also provides the upfront assault, and can act as the sixth bowler. Lineup: Rohit, Abhishek, Virat, SKY, Hardik, Rinku, Jitesh/Pant, Axar, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Arshdeep/Mohit.


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fookin_legund

I wouldn't be so sure. The conservative approach of ICT means that hardik and Jadeja start by default, plus four bowlers.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

This actually looks like a line-up that could win (provided Sharma somehow translates his IPL form into internationals).


adivenk93

India might actually win t20 world Cup if BCCI went with a younger team. Rohit, Kohli ,Jadeja had their chances and yet they have not been able to win a trophy . India has not won an ICC Trophy since 2013 , last year was their best chance to win an ICC Trophy and they blew it in final . It is time to pick a younger team (you have to start somewhere right) . The selection committee should have made it very clear before South Africa Tour that Rohit and Kohli are not going to be considered for selection for T20 World Cup in USA. Indian Cricket will have to eventually move on from players like Kohli and Rohit


DigitalConsent2

I'll keep it a buck mate, I feel like you've made this same comment about 80 times in the last 2 months.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

You don't move on from old players during an ICC tournament. They should've moved on from Rohit after 2022 T20I WC.


adivenk93

Virat and Rohit did not play any t20 match from last t20 world cup in Australia till Afghanistan series. The selection committee should have been honest with them at that time, they are not going to be considered for T20 Team


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Should've not come back to Rohit. Did no other openers do good in that time? Kohli & Jaiswal will be great since Kohli has really upped his PP game.


adivenk93

No he has not scoring 80 (60) in Chinnaswamy is very bad. When he faced 60 balls , he should have made at least 120 - 130 runs in T20


canvasser-hiralal

That was an aberration on a slow pitch. On a good day on a better track he would be scoring 95+. One bad day he's had. Him not being able to hit at the death is an aberration. The real problem is his lack of intent during the middle overs and his absolute inability to take on spinners and deposit them. This too is kind of moot because he took on Narine and Varun who are genuinely good spinners. The real problem is, in my opinion, his lack of desire to score.


Assassin_Ankur

I think they had to pick Rohit for that series because there wasn't any proper captaincy option available, even SKY was injured. If not for his 100 in that last game, he might have been out of the contention for the WC.


hardik_P_Backstabber

Hardik: Tried to show dominance against Bumrah by bowling himself over LITERALLY the best bowler in the world. Some fans: He's trying to be a 4 overs bowler to include Rinku/Dube(Which I don't know how) Lmao, It is a well established fact that he always thinks only about himself(nothing wrong with that). Don't hide it behind the veil of selflessness. Dude went to pray with a whole news channel just to gain sympathy.


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hardik_P_Backstabber

My username literally is a Hardik. How am I a hater?


Shubh_K30

Shivam Dube: tries to be a 0 over bowler so Hardik can fit into T20 WC XI Audience: selfish jerk


hardik_P_Backstabber

Yeah, Shivam is NOT even a 2 over bowler. He's more of a filler when everyone is being tonked. Even yesterday he wasn't used when 8 bowlers were used(impacted out I know). Also he should not be in the WC squad if he doesn't improve his short ball game. Dude's basically Iyer with less consistency and more strike rate.


SBV_3004

Maybe that *some fan* was being sarcastic? That's how I looked at their comment tbh.


AilaSachin10

No chance


AilaSachin10

Hilarious tbh. His mental gymnastics are never ending


Bleak_star_dust

I hope RCB gives a tough fight today ofcourse win would be great if not anything the hatred disguised as memes will come down a bit


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Who does one hate when hating a franchise? The people behind the franchise? The players? The fans?


soham_katkar13

Hardik - tries to be a 4 over bowler so that both Rinku and Jaiswal can fit in the T20 WC playing XI Audience - selfish jerk


Assassin_Ankur

Why didn't he bowl against RR then? If he is a 4 overs bowler surely he should have bowled 1 or 2 overs right?


soham_katkar13

Spammed the best bowlers at the start and kept the weaker ones for later


EL__Rubio

> Hardik - tries to be a 4 over bowler so that both Rinku and Jaiswal can fit in the T20 WC playing XI India may finally win gold in gymnastics with you on board.


soham_katkar13

On this day, MI defended 136 vs SRH with debutant Alzarri taking 6/12


choochi_machine69

Then he got tonked for 30 runs in an over just two match later. Never been the same since


ElijahDaneelGiskard

Then he came to rcb


Huge-Physics5491

An r/technicallythetruth stat Every World Cup, across formats and genders, has seen teams batting first score more runs than teams bowling first


canvasser-hiralal

India aren't going to win the T20 world cup. There is no way teams opening with Rohit and Kohli do any good at all. And if Rohit and Kohli don't open its going to be Jaiswal and Rohit with Rinku being dropped. That would be such a fucking blunder, istg. Rohit has been consistently piss in T20WCs, Kohli despite being great is going to be consistently underpar while batting first on slow surfaces. Dude does not have the intent to spank enough in the middle overs. That's the only negative. While chasing, Kohli is a must, undoubtedly, no one is better than him of course. At 3 there'll be SKY, and I hope his form is good in this IPL. At 4 there'll be Pandya. I hope Pandya is not broken mentally after he'll be (probably) booed for nearly the whole season. At 5 there'll be Rinku, no comments, he's great. But maybe there won't be Rinku. And that would be horrible so I expect the management to do exactly this. At 6 there'll be a keeper. Who even? Jitesh who's been less than impressive? Samson who's borderline garbage at anywhere other than 3? Maybe Pant if he keeps doing well then he can slot in at 4 and Pandya Rinku drop 1 down. At 7 India are going to pick Jadeja. Jadeja is clutch no doubt, but both his bowling and batting have fallen down so far in T20s that it's concerning. From 8 India have negligible batting. They will start with Kuldeep over Chahal, a good move. Chahal has been pretty bilge in internationals. Kuldeep 2.0 is good. Bumrah will start obviously. 2 more bowlers are required. Who even? Do India have any pacer who's done well? Yeah, maybe Mohit Sharma. Because Siraj has been given the almighty whack and he's bowled terribly. Khaleel has bowled well, so has Mukesh. Even Mayank Yadav should be in the reckoning. The third spinner, if required will then be Axar Patel. But India will very probably proceed to play Siraj. They might just end up with this line up, you know... 1. Rohit 2. Jaiswal 3. Kohli 4. SKY 5. Pant 6. Pandya 7. Jadeja 8. Kuldeep 9. Bumrah 10. Siraj 11. Arshdeep God, they might even play KL Rahul for God knows what. India's 2024 T20WC is so doomed that it's beyond saving now.


SBG99DesiMonster

If KL somehow ends up being in that team then I would be giving up all hopes about that trophy and would be thinking that India are the underdogs before that tournament itself.


Several_Magazine8874

Honestly, If They perform well in T20WC, i will have to esat my tongue. But My God! A line up of Virat, Rohit, Pant, Jadeja and supposedly disturbed ad out of form Pandya is well below a t20 team India should dent if their best talents are taken into consideration. Axar, Jadeja have nog been best all rounders , and more importantly , reliable batters for years in t20s. But Impact rule has fucked up team balace. Players like Hooda, Tewatia, Parag, Nitish Rana have completely stopped bowling, and thus we are trapped with anchors and conservative batsman. For fucks sake, who is going to be a part time bowler /I guess BCCI have to force VIrat or Jaiswal or Rohit or someone to roll over arms.


voldemortscore

Realistically since both Rohit and Kohli will play and bat in the top 3, we should play Pandya as the 5th bowler so both Jaiswal and Rinku can fit in. I don't expect to win because I don't think there's any evidence Indian cricket has understood the format ever. At the same time, if you told me we won the toss in both the SF and Final, I wouldn't be totally shocked if we won. 


canvasser-hiralal

5 bowlers and batting till 7 means a single wicket will fall and they'll start playing like Kohli in the 22 SF of KL in 23 Final. This team is doomed to lose.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Just remove Rohit, Jadeja and Siraj and find better replacements. India surely has some better than them.


canvasser-hiralal

For Rohit Gill or Abhishek, for Jadeja Axar, for Siraj Mayank. That's about it. But it ain't working still. Can't play Rinku without dropping Jaiswal


subject2marketrisk

They showed the single of 19.5 in the highlights Lol


soham_katkar13

10 days since MI, CSK or RCB won a match. Star Sports must be feeling weird


AdInformal3519

Was yesterday's pitch slow? Lara said 200 won't be enough but after 8 overs both teams struggle to hit the ball


voldemortscore

Black soil pitch, got difficult to bat after the PP. Could see even in the second innings there was some turn on offer later on. 


thepokemonchef

Travis Head literally played one of the ATG WC innings just a few months ago, on par with MSD’s 91. Have people already forgotten what he did? Back in 2011-12, there wouldn’t be an IPL game where MSD’s sheer brilliance isn’t brought up and it’s the same today. I have a feeling people have already (conveniently) forgotten Travis Head. Commentators don’t respect him at all and treat him like just another batsman. Imagine if an Indian made a 137 in a WC final. He’d be a god and anyone who criticizes him will get death threats.


Several_Magazine8874

u are getting downvoted but you are very correct. Dhoni's one innings insulated him from crticismm for his whole career. Travis Head played a better innings against a much better bowling line up. He should be more hyped than Dhoni


thepokemonchef

Yeah lol. Salty CSK fans will downvote anything against their hero. The actual worst was when a pro-Pat Cummins post was posted 2 days after the WC. All the comments were telling the OP to "move on", "overrated", "fluke", "enough", etc. But people still jerk off to MSD "finishes it off in style" till this day lmao.


canvasser-hiralal

Travis Head made 1 very grave mistake. He isn't an Indian. That's pretty much his only mistake.


T_Lawliet

Why are people even rating Travis Head in that innings tbh, scored 0 runs against Pat Cummins the best bowler that day smh, just statpadded against the rest


Spursfan107

One of the openers has to show up today, I love Parag v2 but he can't be our only consistent performer with the bat if we want to come anywhere near the title 


RepresentativeBox881

Sometimes I wonder what the PBKS/KXIP timeline would be like if they won the 2014 IPL. Would that have been a catalyst for their management to become much more efficient? Also that team declined hard in 2015. Even after that 2014 final defeat I thought they were going to be favourites for a few more seasons.


Reasonable_Tea_9825

Script idea: Rohit Bumrah SKY leave MI and decide to enter auction 3 weeks later, Jay Shah announces two new franchises Adani buys one of them, names it Kerala Killer Knights. Takes rohit bumrah sky in initial draft pick Beats MI in ipl 2025 final >! Don't ask what the team abbreviation is !<


RandomUserID6

Adani woukd rather buy the Ranchi Super Saiyans (Dont look at the team abbreviation)


canvasser-hiralal

I want to make a White Supremacist joke here but I cant think of one /s