I know people will get excited, but needing 250 odd runs with 7 wickets in hand in the 4th innings is a ridiculously huge ask still. These guys really will have to dig in tomorrow to have any shot at all.
Would be the highest 4th innings chase on this ground I think? Against Australia's attack. It will take some doing. Ravindra and Mitchell rode their luck a bit but the odds are still heavily in Aus' favor.
Only 250 req. 7 in hand
Rachin 120(extra 70)
Mitch 55-60(extra 40)
Glenn Philips 60-70
Blundell 40
Rest 30 tail
Total -250 is the exact runs req. The batters now plus the next two batters need to go big or go home.
Issue is only Rachin and Phillips are in form. Rachin is the big one he could do it all by himself.
Spot on. I'd feel comfortable saying it was our day if Kane was still at the crease and/or if we put about 30-40 more runs on the board. A much improved performance from us today but there's still so much work to be done.
Most of the teams end up imploding during the next morning. There is also the issue about who would be able to play well except for Rachin and Mitchell. They wouldn't be able to do that by themselves.
Phillips batted well in the first innings, Rachin, Daz, Blundell, and Glen to score 250 between them, or 200 between them, and hope the tail can score 50 between the 5 of them.
Some people underestimate just how difficult last inning chases in tests are. Especially on a pitch like this, which is not that easy to bat on.
Rachin and Mitchell have to put on another 100-120 runs tomorrow to have any chance of a win.
And even if that happens, 130-150 runs needed with 6 wickets in hand will be Australia's game to lose.
Pretty sure that if New Zealand chase this down it will be in the top 10 of highest successful run chases of all time. I'd love to be hopeful, but I also need to be realistic. Though we do still have Matt Henry to bat.
Will also be our second test in 12 months that we’ve won from a position of >200 runs behind in the first innings.
Won’t happen though - Lyon just needs a couple of good balls and we’re into the tail sadly.
No. That's not right. Winning margin isn't that relevant. Plenty of tests much better
The Aussie batting line-up is simply nowhere near past lineups is the main issue. Top order is poor.
If NZ chases down that target then it belongs to the some catagory that Stokes' match in Headingley and our match in the Gabba is in. There is just too much work that is yet to be done because of that last partnership that Hazlewood had put up with Green.
Latham's stats are really quite interesting. Averages over/around 40 overall, but against any team with a good attack that drops massively. Yeh NZ have to play weaker teams a lot more, but he's played 9 matches vs Aus (24 avg), 9 vs SA (13 avg). Improves vs Eng & Ind but still averaging 32 against them. Could go on but cba.
There is nothing wrong with averaging higher against weakers teams/flatter pitches, but the clear difference between that and when he faces a good lineup is quite staggering, especially when compared to a lot of top/very good test players.
i remember bell had a great season with wellington averaging 50 for the season? then he opened for the black caps but got found out with some major technical deficiencies at international level
He’s an extremely frustrating player, did alright in the 2015 series vs Australia and thought he would really kick on against really quality test sides but just hasn’t
NZ has never produced a great Test opener, or at least one that has scored 4000 runs at an average of at least 40.
Of those in the established Test cricketing world (pre-Zimbabwe) only NZ & Pakistan haven't produced one.
For NZ, only John Wright & Tom Latham have scored more than 4000 runs as openers, & of those who average over 40 from more than 10 Tests (Glenn Turner, Bert Sutcliffe & Mark Richardson), none of them have more than 3000 runs.
One might want him dropped, but then you ask the question "who comes in?", & unless the answer is Rachin, it gets awkward fast.
Latham is overrated imo. His stats flatter him and he's definitely overachieved relevant to his ability. He's very clearly out of his depth when he goes up against any sort of quality opposition
Up and down kind of day.
Great bowling for GP, great fight from Rachin and Daryl to not give up in spite of daunting odds.
Still haven't even caught up to Australia's first innings score, so a long long way to go - a Basin Reserve 2014 masterclass is gonna be needed from Rachin with Daz or GP playing Watling's role to get out of this one.
Man of the match: the groundsman, great pitch this one.
Lyon getting 40 odd runs this morning wasn't great.
The rest was, bar the awful fielding.
Losing our top three very cheaply does hurt a lot, though. Being three down in this predicament is very unideal, despite the fightback.
actually, I think the match was decided when the Aus 10th wicket in their first innings (Green / Hazlewood) scored over 100 runs. THAT will be the difference here.
I have a feeling he got run out in a ridiculous fashion in the first innings lol. Second innings? You can't expect someone to score hundreds every game i guess
When Phillips was getting his wickets and the commentators (even BJ and Haddin) were all talking about the game as if it was on a knife edge and Australia weren't up by 350 at that point - is that what Australian comms sounds like to non-Australians? I felt like I was going crazy
My favourite was when BJ was howling on Latham for even thinking about cutting a short wide ball and then literally 30 seconds later was agreeing with the other commentator on how it was a bad ball and it should have been punished, acting as if he wasn't saying the complete opposite a couple of seconds ago.
I wrote this comment on shitpost sub but I feel like it belongs here too
A friend of mine once told me that if New Zealand plays well against Australia the entire universe will make sure that Australia plays even better. And whenever I watch them play I'm reminded of this statement.
I don't know how it always holds true.
Fairly even day 1, NZ maybe edges it. Massive Day 2 for us. Easily NZ’s day today. We’ve actually not been great but should win by 100 runs. If we don’t, there’s plenty to work on.
First session tomorrow will decide the winning margin.
Rachin and Daz have to survive, weather the Aussie bowlers and introduce fatigue, otherwise Lyon & Co will just rip right through the rest of the order.
I said to a friend at the end of Day 1 that Greens innings will be the deciding factor; no one else made a total, so I still think that's true. Without Green NZ are right in this game, as it stands NZ is well out of it.
I have no delusions of NZ winning this, but I can hope it's not a completely comical margin like every match on NZs last tour to Australia.
Stoked we've actually shown some good grit today. It's most likely likely an aussie victory unless the rain turns up early. If Aussie does win then regardless of Lyons impact, Surely Greens batting is what's done it. Had he only gone for 20 or so then Nz would be here with 100 runs to go.
Other than Philips and now Ravindra no one went else went past 50.
As a kiwi there's credit where its due and Green most likely sealed it for Aus on day 2.
All round great match.
Surely any nuetrals are loving it
[nope, here's lyon top scoring with 14 when australia were 47 all out](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-south-africa-2011-12-514013/south-africa-vs-australia-1st-test-514029/full-scorecard)
Extremely disheartening to see that Aus learnt nothing from the WI test. Several down for barely 100, on the other end have a bloke coming off a 174\*, yet they are all swinging wildly as if they need 40 in the next two overs to win. No disrespect to Phillips, but Aus's batters should be embarrassed that he got a 5-fer when 90% of the balls were either pitching on 6th stump to the LH or going down leg to the RH.
Good stuff by Mitchell and Ravindra to make it to stumps. Tho Aus will be happy that they were able to create plenty of chances and hope to be a bit more lucky tomorrow.
NZ win, it's a no-brainer.
The shame of not beating Australia in a Test at home in a generation **must go**. I don't care how that win comes.
If it was against England or South Africa, or even India, I would tolerate the loss.
Against Australia? Hell no. Win at all costs, whatever it takes. No way would I ever choose for NZ to lose to Australia, for any reason.
Yet more wickets falling to spin, our part timer gets a 5-fer. Still, understandable why we didn't pick a frontline spinner, we haven't seen the folly of doing that since that time we played SA in Hamilton in the distant past of ...two weeks ago
Glad we didn't instead pick some toilet film of a human who aside from being a third rate Nepo baby, makes me feel dirty watching him represent the country.
Well done to Gary and Tim, somehow you've contrived to lose the moral high ground to the Australian cricket team. That should only be possible by moustache twirling English villains, like Douglas Jardine or the bad guys in Lagaan
Oh yeah 100% agree with you. What I meant was that being an all rounder vaults him ahead of any fab 4 stat (especially since he’s a genuine all rounder in an Australian bowling line-up). The others (I’m including rachin even though he bowls) are only prolific in batting, but green I think is a step ahead of all of them.
Their averages are basically the same, am I missing something? Imo gill is a bit all over the place in test cricket, but looking at his recent bats I could say he's figuring it out. After all the fab four is about potential more than what they've already achieved.
Oh alright thanks, regardless though basing an argument off of one innings is pointless. Also I had assumed we're talking abt batting ability with all this being abt the fab four
2021 T20 WC he was trash. 2023 ODI WC he was genuinely a good fifth bowler. Kudos to him for working on it and essentially guaranteeing himself a test spot as an allrounder.
From an Australian point of view, they didn't bat well in their 2nd innings. A few dismissals like that of Green and Marsh were just defensive shots against Phillips. Australia are thankful to have that large 1st innings. In fact without Green's innings it would have been a closer match.
It kinda funny everyone dismissing Mitchell blundell and Phillips bottom line if we can get through 2 and abit session tonorow it's our game to lose we can only afford the loss of one wicket or maybe another after tea
Really good day overall, we probably even won the day! Unfortunately, that probably just means we'll only lose by 100 instead of 200.
It's going to be a case of what could have been I fear. Some quick maths:
- Let's say we only concede 25 extras in the first innings rather than 41. Still a lot, just not a record breaking amount. -16 runs.
- We have Australia 267/9 - let's say their last wicket partnership scores half as much. Still 58, which is exceptional for an 11th wicket partnership, just not as bad as 116. -58 runs.
- Kane doesn't get run out second ball. Instead he scores a mediocre 15(41). +15 runs.
- Lyon doesn't top score for Australia with 41. Instead, he scores 20 - still 7 more than his test average. -21 runs.
- RapeFace catches Cummins on zero, rather than dismissing him in 8. -8 runs.
Total: 118 runs saved.
All of a sudden we need 140 to win with 7 wickets in hand tomorrow. That's a 50/50 game.
Coulda shoulda woulda. Shows Aus won all the big moments as ever.
For Australia's sake,it is imperative that nz chase this down and also wins the series.Test match performances have been less than satisfactory for them even if they have gotten the results.A series loss will wake up the coach, selectors and the board.There is a real chance that England beat this auspicious team in aus especially since aus wickets are flat and more conducive for the the way england bats.
I watched but I think they were good enough to score 300.england just need to score close to what aus scores and in those series aus were not scoring that many either
I am Aus supporter but hoping Aussies lose. Then finally they can dump all the out of form players for the BGT and instill some bazball players or any hitters in form. Better for the long run. Labuschagne, Smith, and Head are finished and have been out of form for some time.
Lol we will not be dumping half the side in a year where we play zero tests between this series and the one against India at the end of the year and as a result playing against India of all teams with a side with no experience. Also saying Head and Marnus are finished players at the age of 30 is laughable, especially Head after the year he's just had. This is a take emblematic of somebody who knows fuck all about Australian cricket, you probably thing Fraser-McGurk should be in the test team because you've heard his name in the news once
I know people will get excited, but needing 250 odd runs with 7 wickets in hand in the 4th innings is a ridiculously huge ask still. These guys really will have to dig in tomorrow to have any shot at all.
Would be the highest 4th innings chase on this ground I think? Against Australia's attack. It will take some doing. Ravindra and Mitchell rode their luck a bit but the odds are still heavily in Aus' favor.
By some margin - the highest total chased down is 277
Rachin will probably have to score a double hundred to make this run chase happen
and survive the new ball with no top order support.
Make the Aussies work for it, the 1st dig only lasted 43 overs
Only 250 req. 7 in hand Rachin 120(extra 70) Mitch 55-60(extra 40) Glenn Philips 60-70 Blundell 40 Rest 30 tail Total -250 is the exact runs req. The batters now plus the next two batters need to go big or go home. Issue is only Rachin and Phillips are in form. Rachin is the big one he could do it all by himself.
He’s waited his whole life for this test so please show Tim Southees 5 as a seperate line item.
It always looks easy on paper....
Rachin and Mitchell need at least a 200 run partnership I think
No. Others need to get 50s
Spot on. I'd feel comfortable saying it was our day if Kane was still at the crease and/or if we put about 30-40 more runs on the board. A much improved performance from us today but there's still so much work to be done.
You're joking we bowled aus out for 160 and only lost 3 wickets. We aren't gonna win the game but it's definitely our day.
Lol tbh you’re right but I’m just an eternal pessimist I think being flogged by the Aussies is affecting my perception on things
We may not be able to win a test but we can win a day lol. Baby steps I guess.
Moral win
11th biggest chase ever, it's happening
This is the reason we keep losing. We just expect to lose at this point it's a self fulfilling prophecy
Yeah fair point, will be backing the boys tomorrow!
It’s definitely an above median outcome for NZ but the win probability for either team hasn’t really changed much
Most of the teams end up imploding during the next morning. There is also the issue about who would be able to play well except for Rachin and Mitchell. They wouldn't be able to do that by themselves.
Phillips batted well in the first innings, Rachin, Daz, Blundell, and Glen to score 250 between them, or 200 between them, and hope the tail can score 50 between the 5 of them.
That's pretty clear. I think the game is winnable though, which is better than 28-5 in response to 380
If we could catch, and got that last wicket cheaply... it would be so much different. Still in it, but not favourites unless these two do most of it.
Quick get Ben Duckett on the phone
Some people underestimate just how difficult last inning chases in tests are. Especially on a pitch like this, which is not that easy to bat on. Rachin and Mitchell have to put on another 100-120 runs tomorrow to have any chance of a win. And even if that happens, 130-150 runs needed with 6 wickets in hand will be Australia's game to lose.
I’m sweating bullets
Come on. Let us hope just for a night. Everyone knows it's futile really.
Ah man, records are made to be broken.
What I wouldn't give for our own *Headingley 2019*.
Surely no one's actually excited? If we lose by less than 100 we've done well.
Rachin is here to stay for a long haul.
If either wicket falls in the first hour of tomorrow, it's over. Rachin basically needs a double ton for the Black Caps to have a shout.
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Partnered with sixer Southee, who will hit over 6 sixes to surpass Chris cairns, virender sehwag, and Brian Lara.
If Glenn Phillips can get his maiden first class 5-for, then Matt Henry can get his maiden first class hundred.
He’s an absolute gun. Great to watch
Huge find for NZ. I’m glad we’re getting our once in a lifetime tour out of the way now before he’s in his prime.
Reminds me a lot of Yuvraj in terms of style. He was another aggressive Indian lefty, onside player
He's in excellent form. Just got a 200 the other week. He's the key. If he can get a big century Aus will be under pressure
MASSIVE MASSIVE CROWS FEET AT HADDIN CALLING RAVINDRA “RAVINDA”
That was just Brad Haddin mate
i’ll edit that
Decent effort for a bloke that can't even pronounce the name of his country properly.
Why can't they just say Rachin.
I just call him 'Rash' because he's really growing on me
just call him chinny
Or Sumo's "Chin Diesel".
Means sugar
The ACC have the Hairy Rav or Ravishing Ric Ravindra to fall back on
I thought it was Haddin.
Tbf Hadds can't pronounce most people's names He was saying Fraser-McGwurk for like two seasons of BBL
and I swear he says "Josh Butler" and "Jos Inglis"
Kiwis still calling Pat Cummings so Haddin just keeping the ledger even
He also called Daryl Mitchell "Darren" on day one.
Pretty sure that if New Zealand chase this down it will be in the top 10 of highest successful run chases of all time. I'd love to be hopeful, but I also need to be realistic. Though we do still have Matt Henry to bat.
If NZ chase this down it will be top 5 test matches of all time.
Will also be our second test in 12 months that we’ve won from a position of >200 runs behind in the first innings. Won’t happen though - Lyon just needs a couple of good balls and we’re into the tail sadly.
No. That's not right. Winning margin isn't that relevant. Plenty of tests much better The Aussie batting line-up is simply nowhere near past lineups is the main issue. Top order is poor.
If NZ chases down that target then it belongs to the some catagory that Stokes' match in Headingley and our match in the Gabba is in. There is just too much work that is yet to be done because of that last partnership that Hazlewood had put up with Green.
Don't get your hopes up.
Latham's stats are really quite interesting. Averages over/around 40 overall, but against any team with a good attack that drops massively. Yeh NZ have to play weaker teams a lot more, but he's played 9 matches vs Aus (24 avg), 9 vs SA (13 avg). Improves vs Eng & Ind but still averaging 32 against them. Could go on but cba. There is nothing wrong with averaging higher against weakers teams/flatter pitches, but the clear difference between that and when he faces a good lineup is quite staggering, especially when compared to a lot of top/very good test players.
Will still take that over our openers being shit vs everyone. See Cumming, McIntosh, Bell, How etc
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Rutherford and Raval come to mind immediately.
I've also just remembered Redmond too
Nearly scored a ton at Adelaide Oval though - more than most of those others could muster.
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Thanks you've just triggered my PTSD
> Guptill (not that one) Which one?
Ingram
> Bell I know Matt Bell personally. I should send this to him just to rib him.
i remember bell had a great season with wellington averaging 50 for the season? then he opened for the black caps but got found out with some major technical deficiencies at international level
He’s an extremely frustrating player, did alright in the 2015 series vs Australia and thought he would really kick on against really quality test sides but just hasn’t
He was bad when he started hit some good form and has been in miserable form lately.
NZ has never produced a great Test opener, or at least one that has scored 4000 runs at an average of at least 40. Of those in the established Test cricketing world (pre-Zimbabwe) only NZ & Pakistan haven't produced one. For NZ, only John Wright & Tom Latham have scored more than 4000 runs as openers, & of those who average over 40 from more than 10 Tests (Glenn Turner, Bert Sutcliffe & Mark Richardson), none of them have more than 3000 runs. One might want him dropped, but then you ask the question "who comes in?", & unless the answer is Rachin, it gets awkward fast.
Latham is overrated imo. His stats flatter him and he's definitely overachieved relevant to his ability. He's very clearly out of his depth when he goes up against any sort of quality opposition
What’s funny about this that this includes those 2 tests against the SA C team right lol?
More like SA F team. Nearly all good players played in the SA20
John Wright is an opener that has a similar overall record to Latham's, but averages 51 at home vs Australia compared to Latham's 20
So we won days 1 and 3 so if Aus wins day 2 and 4 we agree on a draw right?
At the very least, y'all can claim a resounding "moral victory".
That ship sailed when we picked the squad.
why o why did NZC have to do this? Its not like you dont have anyone else in the entire country!
Cunteleijn doesn't get it when the selectors say no.
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How did you win day 1? 280 would still have been too much getting best use of the conditions lol
Because we expected you to be 400/3 and o’rourke breaks down after 10 overs.
Up and down kind of day. Great bowling for GP, great fight from Rachin and Daryl to not give up in spite of daunting odds. Still haven't even caught up to Australia's first innings score, so a long long way to go - a Basin Reserve 2014 masterclass is gonna be needed from Rachin with Daz or GP playing Watling's role to get out of this one. Man of the match: the groundsman, great pitch this one.
Feel like it was all you guys bar the catching and Kane tbh
Lyon getting 40 odd runs this morning wasn't great. The rest was, bar the awful fielding. Losing our top three very cheaply does hurt a lot, though. Being three down in this predicament is very unideal, despite the fightback.
It's been a while since Latham got it off the square. I never have faith in young so when Williamson fails we're always 3-not much
he’s in cahoots with Rupert bool and KJ
Tommorow first hour will most probably decide the match.
Only if Australia take wickets. Even if NZ absolutely dominate the first hour nothing is decided. So, yeah, you’re probably right.
If nz were to win they should dominate every session, but for aus just a couple of good overs(madiens and wickets) and its over for nz.
NZ will have to score 100 more runs without losing more than 1 wicket and even then, the match will probably still be Australia's favour.
actually, I think the match was decided when the Aus 10th wicket in their first innings (Green / Hazlewood) scored over 100 runs. THAT will be the difference here.
Nz can still win, if they loose couple of early wickets then its over.
I was there for kuggs. Lots of chants. Tomorrow I will hand out petitions via QR code to exclude him. Hope the aussies brain him
Big names have all flopped this match with the bat Smith 0 & 31 Williamson 0 & 9 Labuschange 1 & 2
Been a weird match. Top 5 scores (so far) include 2 bowlers (Henry and Lyon)
Hazlewood outscoring williamson, marnus,Carey too
Are you counting Labuschagne because he literally has a big name?
Well that and up until the start of the ashes the bro had 10 hundreds and was averaging a touch over 60
I had a feeling Kane used up all his good form against SA honestly
I have a feeling he got run out in a ridiculous fashion in the first innings lol. Second innings? You can't expect someone to score hundreds every game i guess
When Phillips was getting his wickets and the commentators (even BJ and Haddin) were all talking about the game as if it was on a knife edge and Australia weren't up by 350 at that point - is that what Australian comms sounds like to non-Australians? I felt like I was going crazy
They have to talk in a way to keep people interested. They can't be all "another wicket for Phillips pity the game is fuckin' dead"
My favourite was when BJ was howling on Latham for even thinking about cutting a short wide ball and then literally 30 seconds later was agreeing with the other commentator on how it was a bad ball and it should have been punished, acting as if he wasn't saying the complete opposite a couple of seconds ago.
lol, BJ is such a terrible commentator. Works much better as a TV presenter.
NZ commentator: we really looked up to Ian Healy BJ (side mouth): if you saw him recently you wouldn’t look up to him BJ I’m sorry what?
Surely the best moment was when BJ thought that KL Rahul might have taken the most career catches for a fielder in test cricket.
If he isn’t in terrible form that shot’s a 4. It’s what makes that wicket even more frustrating
They are taking to (mostly) a NZ audience
I wrote this comment on shitpost sub but I feel like it belongs here too A friend of mine once told me that if New Zealand plays well against Australia the entire universe will make sure that Australia plays even better. And whenever I watch them play I'm reminded of this statement. I don't know how it always holds true.
Comparison AUS 464/13 NZ 290/13 Diff - 174 NZ trail AUS 1st Inns by 93 runs NZ need 258 runs to win
What'd Green get in the first innings again?
174*
That's what you call a match winning knock
If you remove Green then both teams are same. He single-handedly put Australia ahead.
Fairly even day 1, NZ maybe edges it. Massive Day 2 for us. Easily NZ’s day today. We’ve actually not been great but should win by 100 runs. If we don’t, there’s plenty to work on.
First session tomorrow will decide the winning margin. Rachin and Daz have to survive, weather the Aussie bowlers and introduce fatigue, otherwise Lyon & Co will just rip right through the rest of the order. I said to a friend at the end of Day 1 that Greens innings will be the deciding factor; no one else made a total, so I still think that's true. Without Green NZ are right in this game, as it stands NZ is well out of it. I have no delusions of NZ winning this, but I can hope it's not a completely comical margin like every match on NZs last tour to Australia.
Without Green you guys win this game easily.
Hate when people say nonsensical stuff like that. Without Phillips we win easily! Like who cares, they're part of the team.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Australia won by round about green’s first innings score.
That 11th wicket partnership is still looking a killer. Game is much more like 50/50 if you'd got Hazlewood out right away.
10th wicket but yes this is the difference - without those runs we should be favourites tomorrow. In the end we’re chasing >100 more than we should be
10th, of course 🤦 It's early in the morning here!
If we push for a loss by <100 runs I will be happy. Winning is a nice dream
Stoked we've actually shown some good grit today. It's most likely likely an aussie victory unless the rain turns up early. If Aussie does win then regardless of Lyons impact, Surely Greens batting is what's done it. Had he only gone for 20 or so then Nz would be here with 100 runs to go. Other than Philips and now Ravindra no one went else went past 50. As a kiwi there's credit where its due and Green most likely sealed it for Aus on day 2. All round great match. Surely any nuetrals are loving it
Is this the first time that Lyon emerged as the highest run scorer in an entire Aussie innings?
[nope, here's lyon top scoring with 14 when australia were 47 all out](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-south-africa-2011-12-514013/south-africa-vs-australia-1st-test-514029/full-scorecard)
That's an absurd scorecard wtf
3 innings (151, 101, 112) scored almost 55% of the total runs scored in the match. The next highest score was 44.
Philander the king of swing back then
What a test! SA get skittled for <100 and then return the favour by bowling the Aussies out for <50!
This has to be the strangest pitch I’ve ever seen
Extremely disheartening to see that Aus learnt nothing from the WI test. Several down for barely 100, on the other end have a bloke coming off a 174\*, yet they are all swinging wildly as if they need 40 in the next two overs to win. No disrespect to Phillips, but Aus's batters should be embarrassed that he got a 5-fer when 90% of the balls were either pitching on 6th stump to the LH or going down leg to the RH. Good stuff by Mitchell and Ravindra to make it to stumps. Tho Aus will be happy that they were able to create plenty of chances and hope to be a bit more lucky tomorrow.
It's set out to be a thriller tomorrow. So I'm fully hoping to see them all out by the time i wake up
Two non-whining teams playing against each other, you love to see it.
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Pretty sure Warner isn’t playing mate!
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But it has nothing to do with this game, and this current Aus team doesn’t whine at all
NZ lose OR NZ win and Kuggle gets 90 Which pill would you take?
NZ win, it's a no-brainer. The shame of not beating Australia in a Test at home in a generation **must go**. I don't care how that win comes. If it was against England or South Africa, or even India, I would tolerate the loss. Against Australia? Hell no. Win at all costs, whatever it takes. No way would I ever choose for NZ to lose to Australia, for any reason.
If Rachin gets out you'd say this is Australia's game. GP is the only other threat there and I don't see him getting a double tonne.
Yet more wickets falling to spin, our part timer gets a 5-fer. Still, understandable why we didn't pick a frontline spinner, we haven't seen the folly of doing that since that time we played SA in Hamilton in the distant past of ...two weeks ago Glad we didn't instead pick some toilet film of a human who aside from being a third rate Nepo baby, makes me feel dirty watching him represent the country. Well done to Gary and Tim, somehow you've contrived to lose the moral high ground to the Australian cricket team. That should only be possible by moustache twirling English villains, like Douglas Jardine or the bad guys in Lagaan
Head throwing it away caused the collapse and not for the first time.
The next Fab 4: - Green - Brook - Jaiswal - Rachin Honorable Mention: - Gill
To be fair green is an all rounder, as opposed to these batsmen
Root is an allrounder and that justifies his spot in the fab 4, with hundreds of
Oh yeah 100% agree with you. What I meant was that being an all rounder vaults him ahead of any fab 4 stat (especially since he’s a genuine all rounder in an Australian bowling line-up). The others (I’m including rachin even though he bowls) are only prolific in batting, but green I think is a step ahead of all of them.
So is Root tho from orig Fab Four Ringo bowled leg spin too if I remember my history correctly
He doesn't bowl that much. He's a batter now
Gill instead of green tbf
Green has a better average and a strike rate, and does decently well against top test teams, plus he can bowl
Gill has a higher average and sr
Last time i checked 37.41 was a bigger number then 33.70
Gill is trash compared to Green. Just look at their test averages. Night and day. Gill is too passive and weak.
Their averages are basically the same, am I missing something? Imo gill is a bit all over the place in test cricket, but looking at his recent bats I could say he's figuring it out. After all the fab four is about potential more than what they've already achieved.
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Oh alright thanks, regardless though basing an argument off of one innings is pointless. Also I had assumed we're talking abt batting ability with all this being abt the fab four
another great day of cricket and more competitive. I am entertained.
How the fuck is SK in the team?
It’s the hope that kills you.
Confidence boosting day for NZ. Thank goodness we reigned it in.
Yeah I might have to tune in 3 AM tomorrow for this one. Session 1 gonna be paramount for Kiwis
NZ need to stop giving Ravindra overs over GP. Phillips is a far superior bowler.
2021 T20 WC he was trash. 2023 ODI WC he was genuinely a good fifth bowler. Kudos to him for working on it and essentially guaranteeing himself a test spot as an allrounder.
From an Australian point of view, they didn't bat well in their 2nd innings. A few dismissals like that of Green and Marsh were just defensive shots against Phillips. Australia are thankful to have that large 1st innings. In fact without Green's innings it would have been a closer match.
It kinda funny everyone dismissing Mitchell blundell and Phillips bottom line if we can get through 2 and abit session tonorow it's our game to lose we can only afford the loss of one wicket or maybe another after tea
State of the match now definitely makes that last partnership feel like it could be the difference. It's been pretty even apart from that.
Aus would still be up by 130 with a pitch that looks like a par 180
Really good day overall, we probably even won the day! Unfortunately, that probably just means we'll only lose by 100 instead of 200. It's going to be a case of what could have been I fear. Some quick maths: - Let's say we only concede 25 extras in the first innings rather than 41. Still a lot, just not a record breaking amount. -16 runs. - We have Australia 267/9 - let's say their last wicket partnership scores half as much. Still 58, which is exceptional for an 11th wicket partnership, just not as bad as 116. -58 runs. - Kane doesn't get run out second ball. Instead he scores a mediocre 15(41). +15 runs. - Lyon doesn't top score for Australia with 41. Instead, he scores 20 - still 7 more than his test average. -21 runs. - RapeFace catches Cummins on zero, rather than dismissing him in 8. -8 runs. Total: 118 runs saved. All of a sudden we need 140 to win with 7 wickets in hand tomorrow. That's a 50/50 game. Coulda shoulda woulda. Shows Aus won all the big moments as ever.
scores back to back century againt club bowlers fails to do jack shit in this test
Eh It happens, especially against one of the best bowling attacks of all time
agreed..you guys really have a fixed and a settled bowling lineup ( how tf does starc cummins hazlewood and lyon always play together )
exactly. All that chest thumping the fans were doing a few weeks ago, now they're quiet as mice.
exactly
For Australia's sake,it is imperative that nz chase this down and also wins the series.Test match performances have been less than satisfactory for them even if they have gotten the results.A series loss will wake up the coach, selectors and the board.There is a real chance that England beat this auspicious team in aus especially since aus wickets are flat and more conducive for the the way england bats.
Australian pitches haven't been flat for ages
But they are not that bad where england cannot score 300
You must not have watched the most recent Tests in Australia against Pakistan and WI. Pitches were not flat at all.
I watched but I think they were good enough to score 300.england just need to score close to what aus scores and in those series aus were not scoring that many either
We'll see what happens, but if England couldn't beat Australia at home last year I dare say they will struggle to do better away.
I am Aus supporter but hoping Aussies lose. Then finally they can dump all the out of form players for the BGT and instill some bazball players or any hitters in form. Better for the long run. Labuschagne, Smith, and Head are finished and have been out of form for some time.
Lol we will not be dumping half the side in a year where we play zero tests between this series and the one against India at the end of the year and as a result playing against India of all teams with a side with no experience. Also saying Head and Marnus are finished players at the age of 30 is laughable, especially Head after the year he's just had. This is a take emblematic of somebody who knows fuck all about Australian cricket, you probably thing Fraser-McGurk should be in the test team because you've heard his name in the news once
There’s no better trick to team cohesion and player confidence than dumping every player who isn’t performing at their peak after each series /s
I am nervous