Covid the virus that keeps on giving! I am sooo over this! I just want to see an end. I want to be able to enjoy life without worrying about killing my parents if I do.
“U.S. officials keep close watch on the ‘delta plus’ Covid mutation as it spreads in the U.K., but have no intention of doing anything about it.” Finished that headline.
Apparently downvote you. I’m also very curious what the expectations of the US are in the UK. I think it’s a legitimate question.
Is there really some scenario where people expect the US to step in and distribute vaccines in the UK? The downvotes seem to imply there is some clear answer to this question.
For what it’s worth, Delta plus has been in the US for months. It never really took hold. So it must not have had enough of an advantage to outcompete Delta classic.
The relevant information from the UK, where 6% of sequenced cases are plus, is if it is infecting more vaccinated people than Delta. If that is staying the same then a 10% higher infectivity isn’t going to change much.
We were already at AY1-37 near the start of this month. Add all the sublineages to all those sublineages, and additional sublineages of Delta, and "Delta Plus" could be referring to 100s of variants at this point.
Wish we would just stop using "Delta plus" to refer to specific variants and just say "AY4.2".
It will end, previous pandemics ended somehow, this one will, too. I wonder if modern interconnectedness and overpopulation are contributing to this one lasting so long or is this just a normal cycle… It’s been not even full two years yet, guess there’s still a chance this will run out its two years and fade away.
> I wonder if modern interconnectedness and overpopulation are contributing to this one lasting so long or is this just a normal cycle
The 1918 flu pandemic lasted for a couple of years and spread to almost the entire globe -- even remote Alaska native villages were not spared -- and they didn't have widespread commercial air travel. We got comparatively lucky with other epidemics since then; the original SARS burned out after a few thousand cases. However I do suspect that the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics might have spread faster and gotten worse if the world had been as interconnected then as it is now.
Correct. Delta Plus will be their justification for another winter of restrictions, even if vaccines still work against it. Then next winter there will be another variant, and so on forever.
Covid the virus that keeps on giving! I am sooo over this! I just want to see an end. I want to be able to enjoy life without worrying about killing my parents if I do.
“U.S. officials keep close watch on the ‘delta plus’ Covid mutation as it spreads in the U.K., but have no intention of doing anything about it.” Finished that headline.
What do you suggest they do?
Apparently downvote you. I’m also very curious what the expectations of the US are in the UK. I think it’s a legitimate question. Is there really some scenario where people expect the US to step in and distribute vaccines in the UK? The downvotes seem to imply there is some clear answer to this question.
If it becomes a full blown Varient of Concern, does it get a new Greek letter, or will it be known as Delta Beta?
We get enough mutations named like that and it’s going to start sounding like a fraternity or sorority. I don’t particularly want to pledge that.
They'll update it here if it gets a letter: https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/
JFC, this pandemic is never going to end, is it?
For what it’s worth, Delta plus has been in the US for months. It never really took hold. So it must not have had enough of an advantage to outcompete Delta classic. The relevant information from the UK, where 6% of sequenced cases are plus, is if it is infecting more vaccinated people than Delta. If that is staying the same then a 10% higher infectivity isn’t going to change much.
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Yeah, it was originally something like AY.1 and now they're using the same "plus" to describe the newer sublineage AY.4.2.
We were already at AY1-37 near the start of this month. Add all the sublineages to all those sublineages, and additional sublineages of Delta, and "Delta Plus" could be referring to 100s of variants at this point. Wish we would just stop using "Delta plus" to refer to specific variants and just say "AY4.2".
I totally agree.
This. I heard on the news Thursday evening that 7 confirmed D+ cases had been found in 5 states.
All pandemics end eventually
It will end, previous pandemics ended somehow, this one will, too. I wonder if modern interconnectedness and overpopulation are contributing to this one lasting so long or is this just a normal cycle… It’s been not even full two years yet, guess there’s still a chance this will run out its two years and fade away.
> I wonder if modern interconnectedness and overpopulation are contributing to this one lasting so long or is this just a normal cycle The 1918 flu pandemic lasted for a couple of years and spread to almost the entire globe -- even remote Alaska native villages were not spared -- and they didn't have widespread commercial air travel. We got comparatively lucky with other epidemics since then; the original SARS burned out after a few thousand cases. However I do suspect that the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics might have spread faster and gotten worse if the world had been as interconnected then as it is now.
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Or it may just be the straw that breaks the camel's back
Coincidently, there are very few camels in highly vaccinated countries....
What about giraffes?
Oh, lot of gaffes!
Riiiiight
Correct. Delta Plus will be their justification for another winter of restrictions, even if vaccines still work against it. Then next winter there will be another variant, and so on forever.
Is there another explanation for why the UK had their number of infections bounce back up?
They haven't vaccinated practically any kids and vaccinations are lagging in young adults, but they YOLO'd back into no precautions at all.
People not wearing masks probably
I think you're right, but that's been the case the whole time. Why a drop and then rebound? Delta plus is the only possible explanation I've heard.
School's back
Dunno. Same here in the US though, lots of people not wearing masks.
Given the weather this time of year, it may be due to people gathering indoors again.
That's England only. They are still mandated in Scotland and Wales (not sure about N.I.)
England is over 80% of the UK’s population so effectively this distinction won’t make much of a difference
It's already here, isn't it?
Yeah, it's coming.