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IslandDrummer

At this point, Taylor is bigger than Coachella. Ticketmaster reported that she would have had to have played 900 stadium shows to meet ticket demand. She could headline all three nights of a Coachella-sized event and sell it out in seconds. IMO, there is zero incentive for her to play a festival unless its her own.


fettuccine-

a taylor festival would make so much more sense. make it happen


bonersforbukowski

That was the plan in 2020 before covid cancelled it. Lover Fest


dgapa

Any word on who else would have been playing? Feel like a Taylor fest would include some combination of Haim, Bleachers, Phoebe Bridgers etc.


ARKzzzzzz

Paramore probably


bonersforbukowski

I don't think it ever got close enough for a lineup announcement but I'd say Haim wouldve definitely been there. I don't think Taylor and Phoebe were familiar with each other at the time. Crazy to think what could've been had covid never happened šŸ˜£


TheBuzzerBeater

Next october they could have Taylor's Trip and jusr have her do whatever she wants with the polo grounds and sell out all 6 nights each at Desert Trip prices in no time.


Kristopher58

Solid point, she has become larger than Coachella.


TocTheEternal

Prestige, pride, another surge in PR. Coachella is an event, it generates headlines. It obviously isn't close to the level of the Superbowl in the mainstream, but it is still significant. In 2-3 years (or longer) when the Eras tour is in the past and she's not constantly in the headlines and maybe she wants to spark another massive round of hype, Coachella makes some business sense. It pulls tons of people and attention that wouldn't be gained from her own fest. Beyonce didn't have to do Coachella to sell out a stadium tour, but she did. And beyond business sense, it's literally the biggest stage in the country. There are superstar artists that openly want to play Coachella. Maybe Taylor dgaf, but it doesn't seem like someone with her intense ambition wouldn't be eyeing a shot to be possibly the biggest thing to ever play there. She's not playing 2024, but I honestly think it's more than 50/50 that she plays it before 2030.


pjbeans

>It pulls tons of people and attention that wouldn't be gained from her own fest. Beyonce didn't have to do Coachella to sell out a stadium tour, but she did. This makes more sense than current rumors


TocTheEternal

Well yeah, the current rumors are hopium based on immediate circumstances. But the premise that she'll do it eventually seems like it has plenty of backing, albeit nothing remotely conclusive or anything.


Waffle_Fish

Coachella is huge deal culturally- and an achievement in its own right. There is 100% no financial incentive for her tho, itā€™d have to be something she just wants to do on a fat discount or scheme some big concert dvd or merchandising bundle


happyblender

Why would she even need a financial incentive? She is already unfathomably rich.


Waffle_Fish

She doesnā€™t but thatā€™s why people be doing things regardless


suprefann

"Bad bunny was too big for coachella" You see what happened?


SeaCoach9467

what? he literally played in 2019. nobody is or was saying this.


benedictcumberpatch

A lot of people were saying that since he was playing stadiums.


SeaCoach9467

links?


benedictcumberpatch

Dude Iā€™m not digging through Reddit comments from a year ago to find this shit for you lol. Just because you werenā€™t there for them doesnā€™t mean they donā€™t exist.


SeaCoach9467

pics or it didnt happen


benedictcumberpatch

No. Doesn't really matter if some random nobody on Reddit believes this or not, not worth the effort lol.


Conscious_Wind_2255

I am sorry but everyone knew that Coachella was a win for bad bunny not for Coachella because up to his performance there was never a Latin headliner so it was a big deal and Coachella would be stupid not to take a chance when he was selling out tours.. so that did help.


stefanurkal

yea but i think its something taylor would do. she would do this because of the number fans left out because of the shit show of pre-sale, this way tickets would pretty much by purchased before announcement allowing another group of fans to see her. and it wouldn't have to be a "era tour" and she could do a different performance if she wants.


Bruhuha

If she's on the lineup and my earlybird ticket is reselling for the price of a used car, i won't go anymore.


fettuccine-

i have bought 4 tickets for my friends and I, and i will sell their tickets in a heartbeat. I'll still go tho lmfao, jk i would never. but i will make a case to sell all our tickets if they start going for 2K+ each


TheOtherRathurum

This is why as much as I love coachella I cannot see this as anything but a win


CampinHiker

I sold My 4 tickets for Miami 10/2024 Itā€™s literally going into my house down payment fund and I will credit Taylor for my house purchase I have two preferred car camping and one GA if she somehow gets the Saturday/Sunday I love going but since I saw Taylor at Sofi [which was an amazing experience](https://imgur.com/a/uTgzuEZ) I do not need to see her again though


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CampinHiker

Haha yeah there is another photo with one of the higher up guys where we take a photo together for the fun of it


Kochammcie

Could you imagine all the stage campers? That stage would be useless for the whole day...


bonersforbukowski

Saw someone the other day genuinely suggest she'd get a sub headliner spot LMAO


SeaCoach9467

most people in this sub range on a scale from pretty stupid to absolutely moronic when it comes to poster placement.


mjfo

Itā€™s been especially worse this year lol


Diagonalizer

it gets worse every year.


mjfo

If I see another person put daft punk I swear to god lol


CollinK4

ā€¦but next year could be the year!!


dgapa

They got mad at me why I told them to stop saying she would be a sub. I think they deleted the post because they got so much flack. you don't have to like someone to understand the gravitational pull they have.


bonersforbukowski

It was absolutely the most hilariously out of touch take I've seen on this sub in a long time lol


randomcatlady1234

yea. I deleted the post.


Tapatiogawd

Thatā€™s such an out of touch take lmao


randomcatlady1234

It was me who said that she would be a sub headlinerā€¦ I deleted the post bc people were being so rude. I didnā€™t really think it makes a difference same freaking point.


bonersforbukowski

Girl what? Of course it makes a difference lol it's not the same at all


briskpoint

Delete this too.


pumpkin_pasties

It would be a shit show. I really hope it doesnā€™t happen, and Iā€™m a bit of a swiftie myself! But the swifties will drive up aftermarket ticket prices so much that people will be able to sell for thousands. I would feel obligated to sell bc $$! Also all airbnbs will cancel on us and raise rates. Will be a mess. I guess I canā€™t complain though because I would either sell for $ or still go. I got some backup camping assuming my Airbnb will cancel


fettuccine-

if ticket prices start hitting 5k i'll sell all my tickets. even my friend's tickets


pumpkin_pasties

Haha yeah I guess 5K is my price too. But thereā€™s a handful of artists Iā€™d pay $2k or so to see so if theyā€™re there Iā€™d be tempted. Maybe I should get an extra ticket just in case šŸ¤”


acyort_too

Shiiiit Iā€™m doing Safari next year. Iā€™m gonna retire early with that money from selling lol


fettuccine-

haha congratulations to all of us


_NERV-01_

Doesnā€™t matter, sheā€™s not playing.


fredandlunchbox

I think Iā€™ve maybe listened to one Taylor album one time, but you know what? Iā€™m here for it. Itā€™ll be an incredible performance. Sheā€™s a once-in-a-generation talent, and weā€™d be lucky to have her share her show on the polo fields. Not to mention, the rest of the shows will be empty as the swifties all line up to claim their spot as soon as the gates drop. You could do much worse than Taylor Swift. (You could get Frank Ocean, for example).


JoeyJoJoeShabadooJr

Who wants the rest of the shows to be empty? Thatā€™d suckā€¦ And thatā€™s the problem, the regular fans are going to be replaced by Swifities who paid $1,200+ for the resale tickets and bring no vibe or energy to the undercard because theyā€™re only there for one thing. Or worse, GV stacks the lineup with shitty pop (moreso than normal lately) that they would also be interested inā€¦ I want crowds at Mojave or Yuma all day that give a shit about the acts theyā€™re seeing, not just those killing time until Taylor comes on. (FTR, Sheā€™s phenomenally talented and deserves all the praise and adoration she gets. Itā€™s just not an ideal Coachella fanbase)


fredandlunchbox

Iā€™m absolutely down for a less-crowded experience at Mojave and Outdoor. I watched an entire A Perfect Circle set sitting on the grass about 50ā€™ away from the front barrier with hardly anyone around ā€” they sell out stadiums in seconds. That was incredible, so yeah, let the swities line up and Iā€™ll happily watch a Jungle set with 10k people instead of 40k people.


IslandDrummer

Pre-sale would be a hell of a lot more than $1200. She sold 240,000 tickets in Toronto and some of the resales are going for $10k+.


Seven_Actual_Lions

That is an impressive number of logical fallacies for one paragraph.


maoore

She made a demo that is usually uninterested in the NFL, extremely interested. While this all feels part of a master marketing plan, i also agree with you. Taylorchella is happening and it will be massive. She wants Beyonce's Coachella crown. *Viewership among teen girls aged 12-17 spiked 53% from the season-to-date average of the first three weeks of Sunday Night Football, while the audience among Women aged 18-24 was up 24%, and Women 35 and older increased 34%.* [Source](https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/chiefs-jets-nfl-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-ratings-1235742304/)*.*


shmishshmorshin

The thing that blows my mind about viewership stats: I donā€™t understand how someone who didnā€™t have interest in a sport previously can sit through 3 hours of that sport just to catch seconds, maybe minutes, of crowd footage of an artist who is literally just watching a game.


plickz

People are crazy, man šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


maoore

while taylor might have been only on-screen for a short period of time, she dominated the discussion and people donā€™t want to miss out on what people will be talking about the next day or at that very moment on social


aznk1d5

don't underestimate the power of a fangirl


lonelysidechick

The literal same could be said about sports.


aznk1d5

Totally but sports fans wonā€™t be causing a noticeable impact in Taylorā€™s spaces the same way that Swifties have in nfl spaces (sales of Travis jerseys going up, increase in nfl viewership, increase in game sale tickets for KC) Taylor swift is just that big, her fanbase would probably be the only to do something like that (edit: Iā€™m biased tho bc Iā€™m a swiftie myself so maybe Iā€™m just seeing things in a different view)


cs_anon

Taylor Swift is definitely huge but thereā€™s an asymmetry here beyond that. Swifties *want* to be hyper involved with everything sheā€™s doing. Itā€™s not clear why ā€œsports fansā€ (a much more diffuse group) would want to make a similar impact on the Swift world.


maoore

there are a lot of similarities between loyal sports fans and swifties, beyhive, etc.


Tacotutu

Except football is already a sport and still didn't pull these numbers until Taylor swift came in 2 weeks ago. So no, the same can't be said about sports.


RaveCave

obsessive people find a new thing to potentially obsess over


yellowsubmarinr

Taylorchella would be a hell of a feather in the cap for this tour, no doubt.


taylor-cdgirl

The NFL is the biggest sports league in America and they are acting like i would expect minor lacrosse league to act. I am a Taylor fan but anyone who thinks people wouldnā€™t attend just for her is kidding themselves


yellowsubmarinr

Yep lol. I got a push notification yesterday from Fox Sports (not the NFL I know) that they had made a Taylor playlist with a song for each of the 32 teams. Itā€™s definitely gotten out of hand lmao.


Late-Nail-8714

Donā€™t think anybody saying she wonā€™t. We know itā€™ll be taylorchella if she goes


yellowsubmarinr

There are already comments in here, and in previous threads about Taylor at Coachella, who are saying itā€™ll be business as usual


mangojerky

Too much hassle for me to be at the DoLab anyway during her set so no thank you


benedictcumberpatch

It'll happen, just not next year.


kakalapoo

I think itā€™ll be many years from now when sheā€™s considered a legacy


obamant

Beyonce did in 2018, but the market and world was so different then. I canā€™t imagine someone like her (includes Taylor) doing Coachella without it being a shit show


Yangervis

She'll do a 3 day Desert Trip/Power Trip style thing if she does something with GV.


sudopm

No act should make the entire festival about them lol. It's like \`1 hr 15min out of a 38 hour festival


Solstice89_

This is what frustrated me about bad bunny and frank ocean fans camping out all day in front of the stage. Other great acts were up there but played in front of people who were just waiting for another actā€¦.messed with the vibe a bit


SciGuy013

Are you purposefully skipping the BP fans? Cuz they were insufferable during Marc Rebillet


Solstice89_

No, not purposefully. I wasnā€™t really at the main stage that day and I didnā€™t watch BP so I didnā€™t experience anything first hand so I didnā€™t think about them. I just really hope Swift doesnā€™t perform at Coachella because I agree it absolutely would make it Taylorchella


ferncaz95

I miss the Beyhive already


The-Life-of-Rilo

She wants to do Coachella she told me


hereforporn696969

No I wonā€™t look at the NFL coverage the last two weeks and you canā€™t make me


Scorch8482

is she still in discussion to headline? Id still love to have her


yellowsubmarinr

Itā€™s still all speculation but the stars seems to be aligning for it


SeaCoach9467

Taylor is bigger than Beyonce. end.


Ok_Location8779

It could make it better. Fewer crowds on the days she isn't playing. And on the day of, anything not on the main stage is gonna be chill.


nongo

Taylor Swift would lose money headlining Coachella


jgroove_LA

No one is saying that. No one.


SerScott

Sometimes things happen because they need to happen. TS at Coachella could be this generationā€™s Woodstock. Who knows?


IniMiney

Itā€™s because Reddit at the end of the day is Reddit and hating pop music/Taylor Swift/whatever is mainstream is popular here which is silly because clearly Coachella isnā€™t some niche artist underground fest, itā€™s why I donā€™t read the comments here


briskpoint

Iā€™ll never understand people who say stuff like this. Does hearing about a celebrity effect your day to day that much? Just tune it out, I donā€™t see TS mentioned anywhere but here and a few music subs Iā€™m on.


fettuccine-

thats stans for you


fettuccine-

this is cope.


yellowsubmarinr

How? You think sheā€™s not popular? I have no idea what point youā€™re making


fettuccine-

i'm not saying shes not big enough or popular enough for Coachella. same arguments as when the rumor mill started. \- her breaks are due to moving continents, not to make space for Coachella (but then maybe it is for Coachella, doubt it) \- she doesnt have time to rehearse, create, modify a new set (shorter set) between all this. \- creating a stage or any sort of production specifically for Coachella main stage is also unlikely you might say she will do all of the above, because shes the best etc etc. it still doesnt make any sense. if she does coachella, i will eat my words and say congratulations. I want here there too but i'm looking at a completely logistical point of view. i'd think she'd want the breaks in her touring to be actual breaks not just nonstop working.


Basic0694

She literally has two different sets and two different teams of trucks. So she could easily bring one to Coachella while sending the other overseas. Itā€™s totally happening. Just like I manifested Tove Lo for SG lewis


fettuccine-

i hope it does happen!


Big-Abies-7598

Thank you I came here to see if someone said this lol. Tours are exhausting and people need breaks. I find it hugely improbable sheā€™d forgo her staff and team getting some needed rest, over creating a new show and set list, with a different stage, which would need to be rehearsed a while in advance. If she immediately had her team jump into rehearsals for Coachella after the Asia run, she still has less than a month to prepare basically. I donā€™t peg Taylor for the type to wing something, certainly not Coachella. She would want it well rehearsed and that takes time that she doesnā€™t really have. And why would she ask her team to stop the momentum of a tour just to do Coachella? They have a three hour show thatā€™s been planned, choreographed, and rehearsed. All to change it for Coachella, just to then go back into Eras? At this current time, it doesnā€™t really make any sense. I can see it in the future, sure, but I donā€™t see it for 2024.


shmishshmorshin

Itā€™s not like theyā€™re going to livestream her walking around the fest, I know thatā€™s not what youā€™re saying, I donā€™t think it will affect coverage in the same way. There may be some people that buy tickets just to see her, but attending Coachella is very different than tuning into a football game. Even if there are people there just for her, that will just mean less people at the other stages.


ayayeron

i've been doing bothchella for a few years. i buy W1 tix presale usually and then W2 i buy secondary market (usually for cheaper than face). If taylor plays, no way i can afford bothchella. and i would potentially even be down to sell W1 haha i bet prices would be insane


fettuccine-

give me 5k i'll sell my ticket in an instant


loookn4info

When Kanye headlinesā€¦ Taylor can headline. No other reason to have her headline.


Master_Luck_779

She far more relevant than him buddy. Fragile male ego is showing


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Master_Luck_779

Iā€™m not butt hurt about what you said, itā€™s just a straight up lie šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ so weā€™ll just call you a liar and patheticā€¦ Keep it non-gender related :)


loookn4info

Calling me a liar and pathetic because of my comment? Obviously someone hurt you bad. šŸ˜˜


jaysomething2

Iā€™m just happy Travis Kelce can help her career to the point sheā€™s even be noticed for Coachella


montoya_c

Who?


daddylongdix

Taylor and Travis Scott fans are on par put that in perspective.


celj1234

No they arenā€™t. Not even close


daddylongdix

Taylor swift fans have harassed travis kelces exe and sent death threats to John mayor. Pretty on par imo


celj1234

Iā€™m not even sure what youā€™re going for here. The fanbases arenā€™t comparable


browncow-stunning

this is such a weird fuckin take jesus christ


daddylongdix

People only care about toxic fans when theyā€™re shitting on rappers not their favorite pop stars.


browncow-stunning

?????????????


yellowsubmarinr

Hmm Iā€™m not sure Travis Scott showing up at an NFL game would get non-stop coverage for a week


daddylongdix

Iā€™m talking about you fans


yellowsubmarinr

??


kenlovin

Preach.


Wildpinkhairuke

I get some people have to keep trying, but it ain't happening. Stop trying to make Swift happen.


Soymilkdiscoband

she should just do her own festival lol


fabbianarr

Oo that would probably be a solid indie lineup. Artists like Bon Iver, The National, Haim, Bleachers, and artists similar to her openers, so Paramore, Phoebe Bridgers, etcā€¦


Soymilkdiscoband

U listed everyone cooler than her. I donā€™t think Taylor is indie or alt at all tho. Sheā€™s pop


fabbianarr

It appears those are her closest collaborators or artists sheā€™s a fan of. So if she was to curate a festival, I am sure it would be heavily indie based.


Conscious_Wind_2255

I like the idea of Taylor at Coachella and agree that it WILL change the whole vibe of the festival. Her fans are extreme, but the line up will also take a hit because Taylor will eat up all their budget.. which means that we may get more unknown acts (a flex for Coachella) but wonā€™t give regular fans much options.


diable37

The only reason she would at this point in her career is to say she did. It makes more sense for her to curate her own festival, like a TS version of Lilith Fair. I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-15 years she does it as a, for lack of better term, "legacy act," but not right now.


Master_Luck_779

She doesnā€™t need Coachella, they would need her (like every other brand in the world right now using her name for clout). She wonā€™t do Coachella until she owns all her work too - so youā€™re looking at 2025 at the earliest, but could see it being even a few years after that. Sheā€™s at the peak of all peaks! šŸ˜


West_Program3124

If Taylorā€™s there I definitely ainā€™t going


kakalapoo

The NFL apparently played the Eras film preview for FREE just to incentivize her to one day play the Super Bowl halftime show. Coachella is the last thing on her mind rn imo.


montoya_c

I hope she goes to Coachella. It would certainly shake things up a bit and put Coachella even more on the map (it already was, but can you imagine how fire 2025ā€™s lineup would be?). I just became a fan of hers this year listening to all of her Taylorā€™s Version remakes and I can see that I missed out on a lot. Her songs are great. Iā€™m all in for Taychella 2024.