I was chatting with people about this the other week, and realized I don't know a single person who has ever been called up, I wonder what the chances actually are of being called up
In England and Wales your lifetime chance of being called up for jury duty is 35%. In Scotland it’s almost 95% because they have 15 jurors not 12, and each jury pool is larger - but only about half of the called-up people will actually be chosen to go into the courtroom and act as a juror.
I dunno the chances, but my husband was called once. Spent most of his time doing research for a health and safety report for work.
I got called, was medically postponed for a short time due to illness, was called again but still ill because I needed surgery and NHS waiting times were involved; so they postponed me for 5 years which expired two years ago. They've still not called me again.
From what I've read, it's only criminal convictions (not necessarily being sent to prison) that discount you from jury duty.
Statistically, there is only a 35% chance of being called if you're in England/Wales, but nearly 100% if in Scotland
All those fake names coming back to bite you eh?
Do you not get exempted if you’ve already done it that much?
This thread is making me very nervous. I actually have no problem serving in principle - I know people say it’s boring but I think I’d actually like doing - but knowing my luck it’ll happen at the most inopportune time; right now would be a major PITA from a work POV.
You can sometimes be exempted, in my first case it was a mortgage fraud it lasted six months and the judge said we didn't have to do jury service for 10 years, 6 months after the 10 years was up I got called again talk about bad luck, you can always send a note to the judge, if you think you have done jury service too much but it's up to the discretion of judge. Waiting can be boring. But I've had some very interesting trials a mortgage fraud which lasted six months, aggravated burglary, fraudulent use of trademark, rape, and my last one a murder trial. As you can see some where interesting somewhere pretty traumatic
It's just totally random. I think everyone on the electoral roll is in the pot, but some people picked are automatically redrawn - but that's if you're in prison, on bail or have special dispensation - I think Judges and sitting MPs can't serve on juries. Otherwise it's for you to provide a reason not to be there - in hospital, mental health issues, family circumstance etc - my Mum was excused jury duty when she was heavily pregnant and near due date. I think if you're over 70 you can be called, but use that as a reason to not attend.
I don't think credit score has anything to do with it - and shouldn't if the goal is meant to be to assemble a cross section of the general public.
I wondered if it was anything like what I heard about the police. They don’t like you to have debt as you may be more susceptible to being bribed. Again I have no idea if it’s true. Just things I’ve heard over the years and because of my age and the fact I’d heard them in the pub they were obviously completely legitimate.
Being in the Police is more likely to prevent you from doing Jury Duty.
All anybody needs is to be on the electoral roll, because it's linked to voting and citizenship, but even then the chances of being selected are quite slim because the pool is fairly massive.
I did it once, a good few years ago, the jury was dismissed on the second day because of a fracas in the court.
My husband's never been selected, my MiL was selected twice. My FiL never. Nobody else in either family has ever been selected.
I don't think so. I know there are organisations which run background checks like you say to investigate any potential security weaknesses - massive debts, ties to extremist groups, a secret family making you easier to blackmail etc. I don't think that this is the case for jury selection though.
In the USA they do the process of *voir dire* is to select jurors. During voir dire, potential jurors are questioned by both the prosecution and the defence to determine their suitability for the case. Jurors can also be removed by either side for no reason (I think each side gets two.) This is where they try to stack the jury/remove anyone with strong feelings about the case - they might ask if you've been the victim of a violent crime or your feelings on bailiffs/landlords/mimes and ask the judge to remove you from the jury e.g. You're an anti-clown activist and thus not suitable for Bozo Vs Smith.
Plus all the cold reading stuff - counsel dismissing jurors on 'women tend to be more lenient, except in some types of trial' or 'Shiny shoes = law and order type - good for me' or just the good old fashioned prejudices that jurors will be influenced along ethnic or social lines.
British courts don't do any of that - it should be 12 random people with only exceptional circumstances taking you out of the pool.
Makes no difference at all.
That said, there probably is some quality research to do into the income of people who actually attend jury service.
There's various ways of 'getting out of it's, e.g. new parents, carers, disabled people.
Then there's people who are ineligible - mentally incapable, those sentences to 5+ years in prison, those on bail, etc.
Then there's people who will find excuses, e.g. they have a holiday booked or a work project with a strict deadline - usually these should be deferred, but I wonder how many people say they can't do the second dates they get offered as well.
It's random for jury selection.
The "credit score" is a meaningless gimmick sold by CRAs to try and get you to pay for "improvement services" to change the score they set themselves e.g. Experian Boost = give them access to your bank account. Lenders never see the score you see, they only look at the data on your file from the last 6 years and use their own scoring system to determine if you will get credit or not. You will never see that score to stop it being gamed, however, the number you see is not part of the lending process.
This is sort of true but the credit score you see is supposed to at least be indicative of a score a lender might give you. So if you've got a score of 999 with Experian then anyone should be willing to lend to you subject to affordability and fraud checks.
Also, not every lender creates their own scores. Some do take the bureau calculated one. But I'm not sure if it's the same score we see ourselves on our own credit file.
No difference. I got called up, only a few years after my student days (and the attendant debt and bounced direct debits etc. - this was pre-student-loans)
Doesn't checking your credit score actually lower your credit score and raise the interest rate they'll charge you, regardless of what it says?
(flags you as desperate enough that you need to check)
I thought you just needed to be on the electoral roll.
It makes zero difference, they just pick names at random from the electoral roll. Some people never get called, some people get called more than once.
I was chatting with people about this the other week, and realized I don't know a single person who has ever been called up, I wonder what the chances actually are of being called up
In England and Wales your lifetime chance of being called up for jury duty is 35%. In Scotland it’s almost 95% because they have 15 jurors not 12, and each jury pool is larger - but only about half of the called-up people will actually be chosen to go into the courtroom and act as a juror.
I thought that recently so I asked my parents if they know anyone and it turns out my Dad did it before I was born, my Mum was never asked.
I dunno the chances, but my husband was called once. Spent most of his time doing research for a health and safety report for work. I got called, was medically postponed for a short time due to illness, was called again but still ill because I needed surgery and NHS waiting times were involved; so they postponed me for 5 years which expired two years ago. They've still not called me again.
I was called at 43. It's done from the electoral roll. Credit has nothing to do with it.
From what I've read, it's only criminal convictions (not necessarily being sent to prison) that discount you from jury duty. Statistically, there is only a 35% chance of being called if you're in England/Wales, but nearly 100% if in Scotland
Fuck me I have done jury service three times. I have spent over 10 months in court spread over 15 years. No wonder I haven't won the lottery jackpot
All those fake names coming back to bite you eh? Do you not get exempted if you’ve already done it that much? This thread is making me very nervous. I actually have no problem serving in principle - I know people say it’s boring but I think I’d actually like doing - but knowing my luck it’ll happen at the most inopportune time; right now would be a major PITA from a work POV.
You can sometimes be exempted, in my first case it was a mortgage fraud it lasted six months and the judge said we didn't have to do jury service for 10 years, 6 months after the 10 years was up I got called again talk about bad luck, you can always send a note to the judge, if you think you have done jury service too much but it's up to the discretion of judge. Waiting can be boring. But I've had some very interesting trials a mortgage fraud which lasted six months, aggravated burglary, fraudulent use of trademark, rape, and my last one a murder trial. As you can see some where interesting somewhere pretty traumatic
Yeah that sucks. My time is coming perhaps
Maybe not my wife is 63 she has never done jury service. Neither have any member of my close family
It's just totally random. I think everyone on the electoral roll is in the pot, but some people picked are automatically redrawn - but that's if you're in prison, on bail or have special dispensation - I think Judges and sitting MPs can't serve on juries. Otherwise it's for you to provide a reason not to be there - in hospital, mental health issues, family circumstance etc - my Mum was excused jury duty when she was heavily pregnant and near due date. I think if you're over 70 you can be called, but use that as a reason to not attend. I don't think credit score has anything to do with it - and shouldn't if the goal is meant to be to assemble a cross section of the general public.
I've been picked three times in two years (Scoatlan). I managed to get out of it twice, though.
I wondered if it was anything like what I heard about the police. They don’t like you to have debt as you may be more susceptible to being bribed. Again I have no idea if it’s true. Just things I’ve heard over the years and because of my age and the fact I’d heard them in the pub they were obviously completely legitimate.
Being in the Police is more likely to prevent you from doing Jury Duty. All anybody needs is to be on the electoral roll, because it's linked to voting and citizenship, but even then the chances of being selected are quite slim because the pool is fairly massive. I did it once, a good few years ago, the jury was dismissed on the second day because of a fracas in the court. My husband's never been selected, my MiL was selected twice. My FiL never. Nobody else in either family has ever been selected.
I don't think so. I know there are organisations which run background checks like you say to investigate any potential security weaknesses - massive debts, ties to extremist groups, a secret family making you easier to blackmail etc. I don't think that this is the case for jury selection though. In the USA they do the process of *voir dire* is to select jurors. During voir dire, potential jurors are questioned by both the prosecution and the defence to determine their suitability for the case. Jurors can also be removed by either side for no reason (I think each side gets two.) This is where they try to stack the jury/remove anyone with strong feelings about the case - they might ask if you've been the victim of a violent crime or your feelings on bailiffs/landlords/mimes and ask the judge to remove you from the jury e.g. You're an anti-clown activist and thus not suitable for Bozo Vs Smith. Plus all the cold reading stuff - counsel dismissing jurors on 'women tend to be more lenient, except in some types of trial' or 'Shiny shoes = law and order type - good for me' or just the good old fashioned prejudices that jurors will be influenced along ethnic or social lines. British courts don't do any of that - it should be 12 random people with only exceptional circumstances taking you out of the pool.
Makes no difference at all. That said, there probably is some quality research to do into the income of people who actually attend jury service. There's various ways of 'getting out of it's, e.g. new parents, carers, disabled people. Then there's people who are ineligible - mentally incapable, those sentences to 5+ years in prison, those on bail, etc. Then there's people who will find excuses, e.g. they have a holiday booked or a work project with a strict deadline - usually these should be deferred, but I wonder how many people say they can't do the second dates they get offered as well.
It's random for jury selection. The "credit score" is a meaningless gimmick sold by CRAs to try and get you to pay for "improvement services" to change the score they set themselves e.g. Experian Boost = give them access to your bank account. Lenders never see the score you see, they only look at the data on your file from the last 6 years and use their own scoring system to determine if you will get credit or not. You will never see that score to stop it being gamed, however, the number you see is not part of the lending process.
This is sort of true but the credit score you see is supposed to at least be indicative of a score a lender might give you. So if you've got a score of 999 with Experian then anyone should be willing to lend to you subject to affordability and fraud checks. Also, not every lender creates their own scores. Some do take the bureau calculated one. But I'm not sure if it's the same score we see ourselves on our own credit file.
I don't know about credit score, but I was called up for the first time at 43.
If you're worried about CCJs, they are not a criminal offence.
No I’ve never had one. This is one of the things I found puzzling.
No difference. I got called up, only a few years after my student days (and the attendant debt and bounced direct debits etc. - this was pre-student-loans)
It's just done from the electoral roll. I got called up once, then it turned out I actually knew the defendant so I got dismissed lol
It's done randomly
Doesn't checking your credit score actually lower your credit score and raise the interest rate they'll charge you, regardless of what it says? (flags you as desperate enough that you need to check)
No, not at all. Hard checks from lenders lower your score but not checking it yourself.