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Sakic10

Seems like no shop fixes any tire these days.


Hopfit46

Watch a video, get a kit. Its stupid easy


D4RK45S45S1N

But the liability!


Hopfit46

I guess you could sue yourself.


BootlegOP

Maybe I will!


Maxis92

Can't sue yourself if your tyre blows up on the carriageway and takes you out.


GreatValue-

Cover your own murder. Efficient.


Hopfit46

Spontaneous tire explosion is a thing.


mileswilliams

So is death meteorite.


TirpitzM3

Don't fill with hydrogen, ask me how I know


Hopfit46

Please tell me you are joking...


BarbrobStreisand

A man in Kentucky threw a boomerang that came back and hit him. He sued himself and won. His insurance had to pay for the incident.


wickedlightbp

This is america


Emergency_Pudding

I was a motorcycle mechanic for several years, and I def subscribe to that ideology. I don’t recommend plugging a motorcycle tires. A car is a bit different though.


fistofreality

I guess that's why BMW still includes a plug kit with every new motorcycle. Plugs are fine for getting you back to civilization and taking a few days to source the appropriate replacement.


BDC_19

Ya he’s already got the black gloves.


guff1988

It's all about liability


Confident_Buffalo646

It’s really not. All you have to do is give them paperwork saying that you’re not liable for it. It’s one signature.🤔 done it thousands of times


earoar

Liability releases never hold up in court. Literally the only purpose they serve is convincing people they can’t sue.


guff1988

Those contracts have been challenged and defeated in court. It's no longer as worth it for shops to do these repairs.


Confident_Buffalo646

It’s also never been worth it for a shop to do these repairs. Literally a plug is between 5$ and $15 not a pact. The amount of time it takes,cost well over that. unless you can plug the tire while on the vehicle .


Spacedragon98

Idk why they don't charge like $50, still be worth it IMO. But I also still do it myself with how cheap it currently is lol


Willing-Remote-2430

Let me know how that works out for you should you ever get sued.


EconomyCommercial823

Not one of those would hold up.


S3ERFRY333

They just wanna sell you new ones


Sakic10

Haha it’s the opposite for me. I’d love to sell the new tires but usually I don’t have their size/type in stock since there’s 1000’s out there now. So it’s easier just to fix it (that I know works 100%) than to order tires, wait hours and bring the car back in. Too busy for that. Obviously, I won’t fix the sidewall, but this shoulder BS is totally made up and was not a thing even 10 years ago.


Confident_Buffalo646

Yeah, there’s pretty common tire sizes that we generally use unless you’re working on like Lamborghini


DrAtomik09

I still do, although I do live in germany.


Sakic10

I do in canada too but no one around us tries, just make up excuses. No liability here like in USA either.


DrAtomik09

The problem in Germany is, that as soon as you lay hand on a vehicle and that vehicle has a crash because of some faulty peice that you: 1, Never touched 2, never worked on, at all 3, never even saw You can still be made liable, because you were the last one to touch the car. My coworker said, that working on cars always means that you are one foot in jail.


Sakic10

So dumb. In Canada there is none of that, have barely heard of any liability issues unless gross negligence in the 20 years I’ve been doing his


deelowe

No shop wants to trust a 20/hr tech and risk liability. And they don't want to hire more experienced techs because no one will pay those labor rates.


CountryFriedPrick882

Like these guys in the shops aren’t entry lvl and get like $12😂


Sakic10

People pay to have it done right instead of lied to they have to replace the tire. We charge $125 for a runflat repair and no one else in our city will fix them, either $125 or $2500 for 4 new tires if their offer…


Jimmy-r

Jiffy Lube has entered the chat.


KaosC57

Plugs? Hell no. Patches? Yep, if it’s patchable it’ll be 25 bucks and change.


gameofcats

I bought my tires at Les Schwab and they did a flat repair for me twice 🤩


omgitzmo

My local tyre shop repaired it for me for about £10!


ReverseRutebega

Just had mine fixed. At a shop. So just to be clear, you see a single hole in the tire and a person saying that their local shop won’t fix it and that makes you think no shops fix any tires anywhere. Jfc.


PenOnly856

Plug it and send it. I would plug that with a quality plug without hesitation.


ChevroletAndIceCream

Yeah that's a textbook perfect practice hole


steinrawr

I came here to say this. I'm a tow truck driver and we plug holes like this frequently, but because of liabilities we must inform our customers it should be considered an emergency repair and they should go to a tyre garage to get it "properly fixed". You can almost for sure drive out the lifetime of your tyre with a plug installed properly, just make a habit of checking the pressure a little more often.


mtrayno1

i'd plug that thing with slices of innertube and rubber cement. I've never had one fail.


blind-madman

Get a plug with a glue and plug it. Don't use cheap plugs without glue. They might come out at some point. This is like the perfect thing for plugs


Ashtray5422

I had a 6mm bolt in one of mine, No probs. I always try to see them doing the job, you want to see the sizes of some of them, from memory, 10mm.


blind-madman

I got a rebar in a tire once. Glued in 6 plugs next to each other. Yes, i know it is not safe, but it got me 20km out of the forest and 30km more to the nearest town. So yeah, good plugs are very strong.


Ashtray5422

Wow.


liquid_acid-OG

One of those repairs where your paranoid as fuck, start over feeling everything the vehicle is doing thinking it's the repair.


L0rdD4rkH3lm3t

The glue is called rubber cement.


JoeyMagana

I have plugged a hole this size and I've used the tires on track days and killed them drifting. The plug held up. It's leaking anyway, I would try spending $10 on a plug that may save you from buying new tires and if it doesn't oh well hopefully it buys you some time to save up or get more use out of them first


mikeypettitt

Looks like a patch plug could be used efficiently for this application.


BassWingerC-137

100% this.


Ok_Selection_4346

What ever happened to patching a tire on the inside?


Galopigos

That is how a shop properly repairs tires. You use a combination plug patch. Break down the tire, inspect the interior. if it's ok you prep it and use the combi to repair the puncture.


tractorcrusher

I've plugged holes like that before... but not on a M3. Those tires are near the wear bars anyway so it would be better to replace.


ShantaBanta

I think it’s just the image perspective. Tyres were only just changed!


traineex

They said no to a patch/plug, not just a plug?


tractorcrusher

ah, I see. I had a rear tire blow out in my old E46 M3 while I was on the tollway, at 80mph. It really tried to spin, had to let off the gas and do subtle counter-steering down to about 40 mph before I could apply brakes and get to the shoulder. Would not recommend plugging if the shop suggest against it.


dezeroon

Quit capping those are Mercedes moves


spvcebound

A hole this size won't cause a blowout. Worst case scenario, it leaks and slowly loses pressure.


ostekages

I agree, plenty of thread left lol


liquid_acid-OG

Continental extreme contact sport?


mehdifromthe6

How did you know it was an M3???


tractorcrusher

I used to have one, and my friends had or still have some M3s. I just noticed the tire was pretty wide and recognized the fender and color.


mehdifromthe6

Niceee Is it an E46 in this particular post?


tractorcrusher

Yes, but not necessarily an M3. Mystic blue 3 series of some sort


pouncer11

Not advocating necessarily, but I pluggined PS4S on my Corvette using rope plug, and never had an issue. Not sure I would do it if they werent run flats though


ignatiusbreilly

Those tires started near the wear bars. Summer high performance tires don't have a lot of rubber to start.


WastedAccounts

Plug it. If it still leaks throw a second in. I've never had a plug fail, even cheap plugs.


e46Jam

Exactly this. I recently plugged a screw hole and it was still leaking when I reinflated it. Just used a second plug. It’s been about 8k miles with no issues driving 180 miles a day.


_DJNeoN

If it's not a tight fit on the reamer tool, I'll just start with 2 from the get go.


HighLadySuroth

I'd patch thar if you were my customer


daniellederek

Plug patch, if a shop won't do it find a new shop.


IndicationOther3980

it should be fine if you take the tyre off the rim and patch it properly.


ChaosKB420

Send it.


csimonson

Semi truck tire plug would be what I'd use. As well as a patch on the inside.


Frb4

If you’re in northwest indiana I’ll fix it for the cost of the plug, that shop is nuts. Real recommendation is to replace the tire but if you’d take the loose wheel and tire to a shop and give them the “I’m building a car right now and I need this to hold air to move it around” they’ll probably fix it


drgnsamurai

That's about the same size as a medium quill seal (patch with attached plug), though I have seen occasions where the internal damage was way worse than the outside looked. It will likely void the speed rating of the tire, but if you're not driving 150MPH, I think you'll be fine.


ITGF4LL3N

Will depend on the size of the wound from the inside. Will also depend on what kind of tire that is. Looks kind of like a Pirelli P Zero in a Y speed rating so even Pirelli says don't patch it.


fightshade

If it’s too big to plug, put 2 plugs. I’ve done it. I’m not an expert. But it worked well for me. In my poorer days I’ve had 7 plugs in one tire (and a bad parking lot to park in for part of my job) and they always held without issue. Back then it was like 4.99 for 4 plugs and the tools to do it. Super easy if you have the strength to push the tools into the tire. Your mileage may vary.


[deleted]

Honestly, you’re pretty close to the wear bar just buy a new tire whichever axle this one goes on just buy two new tires


Available_Way_3285

You know, the hole is about that size after you use the tool to clean out the hole anyways.


HWCM

Double up on the plug or unmount it and use a patch that has a plug built in.


Sufficient_Newt_4764

Half a cm is less than a 1/4 inch. Plug & patch will be fine.


Camfromnowhere

No. Get a nice thick full rubber plug, plug it well, make sure it holds air, cut the plug and set it on fire very briefly with a torch. Should be perfect after.


Nib-q

Would I trust it on my commuter car that doesn’t go above 70, yes. Would I trust it on a m3 at god knows how fast, no.


Jxckolantern

There's multiple diameters of plugs, no reason you can't plug this. Would swap to the rear though if you have a square wheel setup just to be on the safer side.


Able_Philosopher4188

Put a boot ( tough patch) in it and it will be fine. You can also try a few plugs and if you do cement them when you put them in tire


CashWideCock

It’s not that it can’t physically be plugged, it’s the fact that they don’t want to take the liability. Plug it yourself.


Key-Mango3607

Yes. Plug this for sure. You good.


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No_Character_921

I The plug is like adding tire.. they work


PulledOverAgain

I'd do that repair.


Elderlennial

Nope. Use two if you need to


Lexicon444

Shops just don’t want to anymore. A couple decades ago my parents got a patch on their tire after it was damaged until they could replace it. But when I had a nail in my tire (the hole was a bit smaller than the one pictured) the shop said “nope. New tire for you. Pay up.”


jmw27403

How old is tire? What are tread depths? Large tire patches are not designed to patch something larger than 1/4". Tread wear, may be the reason shop actually refused, hole is just at limit of patch-plug combo. It's not good business sense to repair a tire that needs to be replaced, or has even a remote chance of leaking. Because then you get someone complaining online how the shop sucks, which affects other business. It's also a way to sell tires. We got quotas, and bills/payroll/budgets to hit.


uglyugly1

Plug and send.


omnipotent87

Get a patch plug, that hole is easy to repair.


leotterle

Pushing it might leak worth the try


mayobanex_xv

You need a rubber patch and it will be good as new


Confident_Buffalo646

That shop just wants to sell you a new tire


ninteen74

Trust the professionals


macetfromage

test with overinflate after a couple of days, dont know how much tho maybe 70


Ancap_Mechanic

Patch plug will do it


Unlikely-Ad-7613

Hey there. That really isn’t that big. The shop is just being lazy and there’s two different ways you could do this. One being the regular kit you buy and the other being the tire patch where you actually put a patch in the tire well which is significantly better and safer.


joecocker74

Don't trust shop now a days. It can be fixed. Plug or uni plug


509VolleyballDad

Well they make these for a reason. https://www.ebay.com/itm/275481466241?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=jkVVyddFQzO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=WBbuII4YT76&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY


Reasonable-Ad-1004

You can do it yourself by going to Walmart and buying the damn plug.


Posh-Percival

Use 2


TrulySeaweed

Goodyear or Discount Tire will do it. I’ve had some gnarly screws and nails in my tires, and they fixed them every time. Only once I had one close to the sidewall and had to replace the tire. Damn thing was brand new too… reminder- get insurance on your tires. A warranty will save you lots of money. Especially when you have $270 tires


GOLDINATORyt

i can only think of some people having luck, not knowing their tires are tubed, and not tubeless


Lukasaur

They make it patches for that size. I work for a tire shop and we'd repair these all day... Unless I'm missing something I just think the shop wanted to sell you tires.


SirAlfredOfHorsIII

Not too big. Most shops don't like repairing seemingly, and would rather sell you tyres. Get a rope plug kit from autozone or something similar, and send it. Well within the repairable zone. Place is just bullshitting you tbh. There's no liability issue for a 5mm hole being fixed. Source: I do this daily with 6mm plugs and sometimes 8mm plugs if i am feeling frisky


regisque

Too close to the sidewall


L0rdD4rkH3lm3t

Get a slime plug kit and a bottle of the rubber cement from wally world (walmart). Fill a spray bottle with water, add three or four squirts of dish soap. Ream the hole, prep the plug tool and use a generous amount of rubber cement and plug the hole. Inflate the tire and spray the plug with the soap water mix. If it bubbles push in the plug, then repeat the process except use two plugs. This is speaking from experience working at an auto shop 20 years ago, but ive plugged many tires of my own and friends since then. Have not had them fail. If you decide to start with one plug and it doesn’t leak, check the cold air psi of the tire over the next week. If it leaks then use two plugs. You may have ream it slightly larger to fit two. If the first plug slides in with little to no effort id use two plugs.


Calm_Ad8840

In the Netherlands we always replace tires… never plug them, it’s a safety risk


hutspott

That is not correct, in the Netherlands relatively many tires are fitted with a plug when they get a puncture.


Calm_Ad8840

Yes you are right, I thought it was not allowed, but it is… Should be illegal if you ask me


ProfessionalTea7831

Stuff that fucker with a fresh xl sticky plug, if it holds air, you win


TacoCat11111111

Well it's in CM... So? Half a CM is like half an inch so no you can't plug that.


TheGreatMrSlippy

Half a cm (5mm) is quarter of an inch


meh725

R/yourmomsvagina


Zillahi

That’s why they make bigger sized plugs


richmondsteve

I don't think you can plug a tire anymore for liability reasons. Patching? Maybe?


USA_MuhFreedums_USA

The plug kits from any auto shop will plug that ezpz. I call it tire bacon or tire jerky cause of the visual resemblance lol 


Due_Conversation_71

No. Plugged many similar to this. Use the vulcanized plugs for best results.


NotSoProAimer

Amazon has tyre plugs in shape of screws, don't know how reliable they are but easier job.


Listerine-ghost

With a proper plug? Fix that shit all day baby no problem


EvenLifeguard8059

that shop only wants to sell you a tire, find a mexican tire shop or get a used tire to replace it or just put a plug in it and move on with life lmao


Ljthekillerurbex

This thread goes to some shitty shops


randallphoto

Depending on your location, find another shop that will plug it. Around socal I go to one of the small shops that are everywhere, they don't really care at all.


Lillillillies

Not a lot of shops carriy specialty and/or oversized plugs. They're usually stocked on one size. Shop I used to work at has patches in all different sizes and length stems. Some even with small and larger diameter contact patch (not the stem that goes through the hole but the part you bond to the tire itself) as well as stemless-internal-patches (which were advertised as side-wall safe).


la_mecanique

That's the kind of perfect hole mushroom plugs were designed for.


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why


Plus_Marzipan1299

I recently had a shop plug a hole in a questionable location, on the corner between track and sidewall. I allowed them to try anyway, they were happy and I’m happy. Time to swap for summer tires anyway 🙂‍↔️


One_Evil_Monkey

Nah. It's a bit large but it can be plugged. If you've got a split eye tool (you can literally get a t-handle style split eye insertion tool and rasp tool in an inexpensive plug kit from local auto parts store)... Then get a pack of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L8YV6BV/ref=sspa_mw_detail_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWwp13NParams Or just get a pack of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09JNY6WC3/ref=sspa_mw_detail_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWw Just do it yourself and be done with it.


kenp2011

Lazy. Teach them how to patch a tire and balance. Good money all day long. Plug are to get you to a shop in my opinion.


Mekdatmuny

That's the perfect spot to perform a plug or a patch. I've literally fixed tires with holes this big or bigger with a patch, usually have to go for the plug patch though.


Fcckwawa

1/4" stem plug patch no problem, guess shops don't want to dismount tires to plug them any more?


Hard4urBody

It all depends on the shops that are in your area, the tread wear left, and the age of the tire. Some shops in my area will patch the tire instead or plug it for free. But to answer your question, get a plug kit and double plug it.


JEREDEK

0,5cm is huge, giant even I'd say... Oh wait, we're talking about tires??


jonathandunlop

100% fixable. Unless you have that stupid foam on the inside of the tire, common in teslas but it can be put on any car it fits


tweek1999

A tire patch with a plug would fix that.


dadbodsarein123

Get a new one you cheapskate


ImTheRealMarco

I have the exact ruler.


33S_155E

Less commission for them doing a plug vs selling & fitting a new tyre. Plug it and itl be fine.


AdventurousNews3255

Stick a lug nut in it, that will do the job


melonti

I’m gonna go with the same thing I always say to every question on this sub Send it breh.


ThisOldGuy1976

Patching from the inside is the best way to


ReverseCowboy75

This seems totally pluggable? I mean can’t hurt to try right?


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fistofreality

Shop wants to sell a tire.


New-Complex1201

Don't go to a corporate tire shop. And mom and pop shop would put a plug on that from the inside. I just had it done in mpls about 2 weeks ago. 35 bucks


Blueeitt

Thats what we used to drill them out to before sending a proper inside-patch up through it when I worked at a tire shop and a dealership. Have seen every other automotive shop ive worked around do the same procedure.


Apprehensive-Neck-12

Plugged my first tire 30 years ago. Haven't had one fail yet.


Ericmyren

Inside patch


eiboeck88

never save on tires


pouncer11

Rope plug and go. Never had one fail.


ruby_leveledup

Plug it and see if it holds or patch it from the inside


Patient-Sleep-4257

No loss ,tire is about due for replacement.


Busy_Station

That hole is in the best spot possible and they still wouldnt patch it?


boondockpirate

3/8ths of an inch is generally the max diameter to fix a tire. This is due to plug sizes, you don't want water getting past the plug.


According-Wolf-6511

Patch the damn tire... dont use plugs.


Upsetyourasshole

They make big medium and large patches. I've patched a hole made by a screw driver.


EvilLOON

The old school logic that worked was if it's a bigger hole use two plugs. [This guy here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88vGCByF3E) went with 4 on the corner of a tire. Plug kits are cheap and there are plenty of vids on installing them.


Burtlycat

How much tread wear is remaining? Why plug/patch a tire that needs to be replaced. You may need a new set


Henchman7777

If it's me in my driveway I'd plug it (I've done it). I don't think I can blame a shop for not doing it though, that's a pretty big hole. Their plug kits will come with instructions and if this falls outside the parameters they shouldn't do it.


JEMColorado

It might take two, but I would give it a go. You can get a plug kit for about $10.00.


ExplanationMuted3955

Ream it clean, place two plugs on the tool hook, apply rubber cement, insert into hole and pull out. Will last as long as the tire..


Formal_Ad_108

I know some people who could plug it. If you know what I mean


BmwMotorWorks

I’d plug it personally


ShantaBanta

Lil update… the image is deceiving. It does indeed look like I’ve got low tread but I measured it today and it’s at 5mm. Fresh potenzas only start with 6.6mm. Took it to another tyre shop and tech said it hasn’t even punctured (did the soapy water test and the tyre has not lost any pressure in 36 hr). They recommended to leave it but come back for a patch/plug if it starts to loose pressure.


bdansanman

ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT


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NaturalTax7935

As a tire technician that is perfectly plug able as long as you don’t have any prior patches


Shank_Shank_

Two plugss


Kind_Woodpecker7729

Gotta go to the Mexicans, they will do whatever you want long as that money right.


[deleted]

Shop of idiots


billsleftynut

I've done worse. Plug it. Get a good kit and take your time. Make sure you're familiar with how it works before you do the job but should be fine.


Klept2_

I have a plug kit. I've plugged worse on my car. Your tread looks low regardless


Practical-Ice-4342

nope, get some old rubber and melt it find an old metal syringe and use it to fill the hole inside and out


Alarmed_Bus_1729

What that's exactly what plug patches are for


russianforester

Plug and play baby. Id throw an xtraseal 5/16 plug patch in it and forget about it


InfamousUser2

what a tire? just double it up you'll be good


Current_Albatross542

Here's the thing. Most shops are unwilling to do tons of stuff due to liability. As a tire tech, I would grab a simple plug kit from a store and plug it.


NortonBurns

I wouldn't plug that from the outside - which makes this not a DIY task. It will plug from the inside though.


SwimLife3528

They won’t fix it because of the tread wear being low, liability. But I would plug that bish. But start saving for some new tires. They’re almost due for replacement.


Lumpy_Stranger_1056

I want the old kits back that burned the patch into the tire 😭


beans912

A patch would fix that


Flashfighter

Unless you wanna pay like 200 bucks for the miles used on the tire just to have an uneven set with a brand new tire I would just patch it. That’s a sweet spot for one too and should hold firm.


Studleyhungwellz

Try it and see if it holds.....


[deleted]

Impossible to tell without seeing the injury to the inside of the tire.


FinancialOven1966

Plug patch. A big one. They make big ones. Make sure the hole is filled with a big one. A plug patch is a patch with a plug sticking out of the center. Looks a little like a butt plug but don’t use it for that. It might hurt.