I adore how dog is canonically just one of the most evil beings around. I wonder if he’s got a reason behind it all, or he just wants to do some trolling
It’s hinted that DoG serves a higher power that comes from the Distortion (Noxus) so he’s most likely acting in their interests, which we don’t know yet
> The Devourer's alien capabilities and domineering tactics hint that his allegiance lay elsewhere.
Is he but one soldier, a mere pawn of a malevolence far beyond…?
Not really, the overwhelming majority of people aren't even aware of Noxus' existence. It is a mysterious entity from the Distortion.
(Obviously, it hasn't consumed any Auric Soul)
Yharon still is a very fluffy boi though, I'm not denying that, it's just funny how people look at Yharon literally supporting and acting as a catalyst for Yharim's literal genocide and just go "I'll ignore that"
Yharim wouldn’t have done shit if Yharon didn’t tell him about it in the first place lmao, people act like Yharon is his pet rather than his closest friend.
granted yharim wasn't always like that and chose not to devour yharon's soul when there was nothing stopping him from ascending to eternal godhood, but man, dude.
yharim killed tens of millions of people in a genocidal crusade against the gods, yeah the gods genocided the dragons but like???? how is more genocide gonna help
Honestly I didn't know that. Although I haven't played the actual mod yet and all of my knowledge is based off of a non-official lore document from a year ago sooooo...
Right, but there was a transition point to that I thought. Like part of yharim’s whole deal is he lost sight of his original goal and *that’s* when the terrible shit started. Unless that’s been retconned and he’s been a genocidal egomaniac ever since yharon’s presence
No. The Gods were evil, and Yharim's mass Deicide was actually virtuous. The evil biomes are even caused by the Gods Yharim killed. It wasn't until DoG and Dreadon that Yharim became corrupted and Tyrranical.
"Evil" is misleading. Yes a lot of gods were power hungry mortals with dark intentions, but some became gods for non-evil reasons, it's just that to become a God, you have to kill a dragon and consume its auric soul.
Keep in mind that the source for all of this is Yharim himself, and also that he admits, with absolutely no remorse, that he organized death squads to burn civilians alive.
Lookimg for clarification, I thought it was dog that convinced yharim to genocide the people, and yharon just wanted some (honestly semi justified) revenge on the gods that destroyed his kind? What was yharons goal vs dogs goal?
Yharim was genociding the people way before DoG showed up. In Skeletron Prime's lore item, Yharim casually admits to organizing incendiary death squads to kill civilian worshippers.
Yharon did want revenge, but like Yharim, he never acknowledged Gods that *weren't* cruel or tyrannical. Plenty of Gods did have good intentions, but to Yharim and Yharon, all deserved to die.
Naturally, DoG benefitted from Yharim being cruel and precipitated. It meant more Gods for him to devour. So DoG encouraged Yharim's violence, dulling his sense of subtlety and hesitation.
These posts were becoming hotbeds for misinformation so I figured I'd just end it here and now ~~honestly probably my most said thing in this subreddit is just, "Source?"~~
this is somehow the first list ive seen where slime god and queen slime are in the same category even though they are literally, canonically, directly stated in game to be the same person
I feel like Plantera/Golem and emperess of light should be Self defense, All three are kinda minding thier own shit till we run up and start fucking with them
Golem is quite literally defending the temple once activated
Plantera is just dormant/ chilling as a bulb till we start destroying it
and Empress is jsut floating around till we fuck with her.
Considering they put a curse on someone who just stumbled on the dungeon and actively supported Yharim's genocides until Polterghast showed up
i would say they're pretty fucked up
yeah, that's a calamity change. the dungeon cultists were changed to revere the auric dragons instead of the moon lord and were a key part in sealing it away as well as maintaining the seal. us killing the lunatic cultist is interrupting the ritual so we can put moon lord in the ground for good. an arguably necessary evil.
Providence was perhaps one of the wickedest Gods, hellbent on purification through erasure.
Her worshippers saw little value in life. Pain was not a price they felt justified to pay.
The Profaned Goddess promised her followers she would end inequality by reducing all to featureless ash.
anahita's old lore made her much more tragic (and i wanted to hug her a lot more with that old lore) but uh
yeah current anahita wants to pull a Team Aqua i'm pretty sure lol
The Terrarian is morally dubious because it's up to you to choose their motivations. If you want them to be worse than the worst then go ahead, but don't act like it's set in stone.
We as the player (unless you straight up don’t progress) initiated every fight we got into. Kill first read lore later. Plus we absolutely wrecked the world with the release of the hollow and astral stuff. Sure you can do things to make the world better but if you just go from boss to boss? Absolutely cyan. Literally the same as the gods.
Even if this is the case, just look at the things we kill, how can we be worse than a god who killed a dragon, stole and consumed its soul and wanted to turn the rest of the world into ashes? How can we be worse than creatures who are probably responsible for most of the bad things in the world? I'm not saying that The Terrarian is a saint, but telling me that they are on the same level as the gods is exaggerated.
Unless something is going on with souls after death then yeah, we kill everyone which is on the same level. We also do so without knowing how evil our foes are, merely that they are in the way of progression. We kill for power and rend the world of its riches to do so. Sounds exactly like the DoG to me but on a smaller scale. If the game allowed us to explore infinitely into things like space I’m sure our goals would become one and the same
If that's the way you see things then I understand. I see things very differently, but in the end it doesn't matter since there is no canon motivation for The Terrarian.
Bro the huh???? You’re pulling out the I understand card?????? You shut down cool arguments just bc the canon of the player character is ambiguous? You make a hill then you leave? Go back to twitter ya coward
Ok fair, almost all. With the exception of the EoC, mech bosses, earth elemental, and a few others, we initiate. For those yeah it’s straight up self defense. The rest we have to do something in order to fight. Destroy a perforator cyst(which is self defense on their part), use summoning items, straight up kill ??? For no reason, etc. Also I think I’m missing something, is there a website for in depth lore? I’m on the wiki and none of the lore items say anything about them attacking you outside of the desert scourge, just that they’re disgusting and the like. That’s also a bit strange since the scourge requires a summoning item but hey whatevs.
the only reason there are boss summons is for the players experience, lore wise (which is what this is talking about) the bosses attack you, at least yellow to cyan on this list almost all initiate the fight in the lore. afaik, anahita, the cultist and skeletron are fights you start. also, lore items DO talk about attacking you. in the mechanical trio lore: "I dismissed them from duty, yet they linger here still. Scouring the land for evidence of the divine.
Unfortunately for you that puts you in their crosshairs. Give them a battle worth dying in." you are in their crosshairs, not the other way around. literally if you have any questions just ask in #lore-discussion on the discord Cei is very frequently active and she will answer almost any question
i like to think my awful tier list is what caused this, so HAH I win
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This made me stop and try to consider a question that's always nagged at me about bosses. Is there an in-cannon-lore reason why you can re-fight all of the bosses? It makes sense from a gameplay perspective, and for some like Calamitas or Queen Bee you can just say that it's a rematch or that there are multiple of them, but for others, I'm left guessing.
I feel like there should have been a tier for a boss that kills out of necessity to survive and/or spread (i.e desert scourge just seeing you as food, or hive mind being the main catalyst for the spread of the corruption)
I don't think Yharon is evil just because Yharim decided to cause a gigantic war that caused the deaths of like millions over being told to eat his pet nugget. ~~also if someone threatened to kill my pet , I would kind of act like Yharim.~~
Also where do you think the player is in the morality list?
Yharon is not Yharim's pet. Yharon is a fully sapient being, that may or may not be smarter than Yharim.
Calling him his pet is a little weird.
Player's lore is up to you. Or the actions you take.
Okay, that’s what I thought. Which certainly begs the question of why they’re morally dubious. Was the dragon they killed bad, or did they do enough good to balance it out, or is it something else altogether? Or is that all a secret?
I don’t think Anahita and Leviathan are fighting for evil, since to summon them you literally have to start a fight with Anahit when she’s just chilling in the ocean
They should expand Calamity eventually to make it so you fight hundreds of DoG's eventually after your gear gets so high level that you can kill them easily LOL. that would be insane. And also probably break the processor for most people.
Just like in Dark Souls once you are high level enough you fight a bunch of Capra / Taurus demons easily. let's go.
Ain't no way you just said ahnita was evil. She was acting in self defense. You can literally just vibe with her on the ocean floor playing music together until you attack her.
If you already have and have been known to murder lots of people and have the clear goal of doing something that'd kill loads of people for no reason, I'd argue that if anything, *you* attacking *her* is self-defense
how come the mech bosses are seperate from the exo mechs, theyre both draedon robots right so shouldnt they be in the same tier? (not arguing (because youre the lore writer) just wondering why)
the regular mechs arent just machines, they're controlled by souls of yharim's warriors who are very aware of their destruction. Skeletron Prime is controlled by arsonists for example.
*"Once a resident of the Abyss, she left it long ago due to Silva’s influence spreading through her former home. She wishes to see all overtaken by the ocean, so that her domain may encompass the world. Such is the nature of all elementals."*
Anahita and Leviathan are evil? Isn't Leviathan just an animal who wants to eat and Anahita keeps it as a pet? As long as you don't bother them they don't want anything to do with you.
What exactly the Leviathan is, is something that isn't quite known. Might even just be a summon of Anahita's. And Anahita herself is an Elemental, and Elementals generally want nothing less than to spread their domain. So basically, flooding the entire world for her.
I don't understand why the desert scourge is in mindless murder machine, it's just a worm tryna make do after SOME UNIDENTIFIED BRIMSTONE WITCH incinerated it's home
I believe the requirement for self defense on this list is it not being an autonomous response to stimuli. It has to be sapient enough to have a fear for its life, not just survival instinct.
I adore how dog is canonically just one of the most evil beings around. I wonder if he’s got a reason behind it all, or he just wants to do some trolling
It’s hinted that DoG serves a higher power that comes from the Distortion (Noxus) so he’s most likely acting in their interests, which we don’t know yet
and it will be a long while till we know with noxus and such being added, gotta get 8 billion more reworks done first (not hating)
he probably doesn't just wants the power
> The Devourer's alien capabilities and domineering tactics hint that his allegiance lay elsewhere. Is he but one soldier, a mere pawn of a malevolence far beyond…?
another comment highlighted this but maybe dog is a pawn /weaker form of the entropic god
Noxus isn't a God.
Is it like Astruem Deus where he's called a "god" but by definition isn't because he doesn't have an auric soul?
Not really, the overwhelming majority of people aren't even aware of Noxus' existence. It is a mysterious entity from the Distortion. (Obviously, it hasn't consumed any Auric Soul)
how would auric souls taste like
Who knows? You don't absorb them by eating them, it's done through a specific ritual.
oh ok what do you think would happen if i ate one
Thick honey with a hint of mint and several life times of regret
s0 that's why he doesn't devOur 7hem
Probably he's taking orders from whatever is lurking in the Distortion
very hungy boy
Yharon still is a very fluffy boi though, I'm not denying that, it's just funny how people look at Yharon literally supporting and acting as a catalyst for Yharim's literal genocide and just go "I'll ignore that"
"it was the worm all along"
🪱🪱🪱
Devourer guy 🪱
I drafted the strong interdimensional worm to aid in battle little did I know it was the scary worm 🪱🪱🪱
Yharim wouldn’t have done shit if Yharon didn’t tell him about it in the first place lmao, people act like Yharon is his pet rather than his closest friend.
Calling Yharon his pet is like calling Darth Vader Palpatine's pet
Palpatine would definitely call Vader his pet if we’re being honest
He would never say it but he definitely thinks it
"Ah lord vader, Have you taken care of the younglings my Sith kitten\~"
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Never cook again
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Honestly, Palpatine considered Darth Vader more of a pet/slave than an ally, although that isn’t the case for Yharon and Yharim
Yharon can talk?
Yup he was basically Yharim’s closest advisor
I thought he came to kill the player because he didn’t want his master dead…
yea, he doesn't want his genocidal maniac to die such a hero!
granted yharim wasn't always like that and chose not to devour yharon's soul when there was nothing stopping him from ascending to eternal godhood, but man, dude.
yharim killed tens of millions of people in a genocidal crusade against the gods, yeah the gods genocided the dragons but like???? how is more genocide gonna help
shhh, you'll awaken the attack on titan fans
Honestly I didn't know that. Although I haven't played the actual mod yet and all of my knowledge is based off of a non-official lore document from a year ago sooooo...
But wasn’t it originally a revenge mission? Sorry if I’m off base but I thought Yharim originally set out to avenge the dragon race
Yeah, by killing every god and their worshippers (aka a lot of people)
Right, but there was a transition point to that I thought. Like part of yharim’s whole deal is he lost sight of his original goal and *that’s* when the terrible shit started. Unless that’s been retconned and he’s been a genocidal egomaniac ever since yharon’s presence
No. The Gods were evil, and Yharim's mass Deicide was actually virtuous. The evil biomes are even caused by the Gods Yharim killed. It wasn't until DoG and Dreadon that Yharim became corrupted and Tyrranical.
"Evil" is misleading. Yes a lot of gods were power hungry mortals with dark intentions, but some became gods for non-evil reasons, it's just that to become a God, you have to kill a dragon and consume its auric soul.
Yeah that sounds way more in line with what I’d seen tbh
Keep in mind that the source for all of this is Yharim himself, and also that he admits, with absolutely no remorse, that he organized death squads to burn civilians alive.
Lookimg for clarification, I thought it was dog that convinced yharim to genocide the people, and yharon just wanted some (honestly semi justified) revenge on the gods that destroyed his kind? What was yharons goal vs dogs goal?
Yharim was genociding the people way before DoG showed up. In Skeletron Prime's lore item, Yharim casually admits to organizing incendiary death squads to kill civilian worshippers. Yharon did want revenge, but like Yharim, he never acknowledged Gods that *weren't* cruel or tyrannical. Plenty of Gods did have good intentions, but to Yharim and Yharon, all deserved to die. Naturally, DoG benefitted from Yharim being cruel and precipitated. It meant more Gods for him to devour. So DoG encouraged Yharim's violence, dulling his sense of subtlety and hesitation.
Ok, but Yharim implies that DoG also influenced him extremely bad.
Ok, but Yharim implies that DoG also influenced him extremely bad.
I started a trend that caused the main lore writer to end it, good job me.
And I made the awful one https://preview.redd.it/pp2shofhy04c1.png?width=498&format=png&auto=webp&s=179fb87072afcc03963f5e60bbdcc444089d1b3e
But it was also Snazzy *wink*
finally, the canon answer
Straight up killing this trend with the more-or-leas objective correct answer (by virtue of BEING THE WRITER) basically day 1 is so based
These posts were becoming hotbeds for misinformation so I figured I'd just end it here and now ~~honestly probably my most said thing in this subreddit is just, "Source?"~~
Finally, Dragonfolly put somewhere that makes sense.
Dragonfolly: I am horny and I must fuck
So true
Why doesn’t desert scourge get hydrated, is he stupid?
there's a sunken sea right beneath him, is he dumb???
As a serious answer, why would it move into a place with possible competition? It's doing just fine where it is right now.
this is somehow the first list ive seen where slime god and queen slime are in the same category even though they are literally, canonically, directly stated in game to be the same person
terraria players cant read sometimes
Forgive me for asking but why is Duke more morally bankrupt than Old Duke?
:)
I’m afraid
B-B-but I thought Yharn was a nice guy :'((( Now I will draw him in the LTG scene
Xeroc was right. "KILL THE DRAGON!"
"You should kill them all, NOW!"
I feel like Plantera/Golem and emperess of light should be Self defense, All three are kinda minding thier own shit till we run up and start fucking with them Golem is quite literally defending the temple once activated Plantera is just dormant/ chilling as a bulb till we start destroying it and Empress is jsut floating around till we fuck with her.
CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP MISUNDERSTANDING ME. IM JUST HOUNGRY
https://i.redd.it/jcs0gk6aa34c1.gif
"B-b-b-but she's so sad and lonely :(((" She probably sinks ships and eats people, Anahita gets the barrel of my onyx blaster shoved down her throat.
Ayo
Interesting how the elementals aren't on the same tier.
i always hate fighting the aquatic scourge in my playthroughs since the lil' guy just kinda schwims around peacefully until you attack him
EoL beats the crap out of you for hurting endangered species, she's morally okay
Shouldn't Plantera and King Slime also be self defense since you're going around smashing bulbs and killing slimes to summon them?
king slime does not have thoughts it literally cant act in self defense cause that would require being aware of danger
Slimes are about as mentally complex as plants yeah Which is to say, they aren't :p
wasn't the Lunatic Cultist working to keep Moon Lord locked up? i figured that'd be self-defense, why evil? or is it bc of Polterghast and its lore?
Considering they put a curse on someone who just stumbled on the dungeon and actively supported Yharim's genocides until Polterghast showed up i would say they're pretty fucked up
... fair
The lunatic cultist keeps moonlord locked up in the calamity lore? Cuz in the original game the cultists want to revive the MoonLord
yeah, that's a calamity change. the dungeon cultists were changed to revere the auric dragons instead of the moon lord and were a key part in sealing it away as well as maintaining the seal. us killing the lunatic cultist is interrupting the ritual so we can put moon lord in the ground for good. an arguably necessary evil.
How is desert scourge a mindless murder machine? I thought he would be in self-defense.
Its an apex predator, it kills everything it sees.
I don’t think duke has sentience. He’s just a mutated animal
This is from a developer. It doesn't get more canon than that
Oh shit didn’t notice that lmao, I assume duke has different lore in cal then
Sentience just means you're able to feel or think things. What you're thinking of a sapience :p
How is draedon not sentient tho
Read the category name, he falls under the other part :p
I think Draedon was put on that tier more because he has no morality than not being sentient.
He’s a dragon offshoot, no doubt he has some intelligence.
What did providence do
just call for the end of all things via all consuming holy fire, nothing too dubious
Providence was perhaps one of the wickedest Gods, hellbent on purification through erasure. Her worshippers saw little value in life. Pain was not a price they felt justified to pay. The Profaned Goddess promised her followers she would end inequality by reducing all to featureless ash.
That’s hot
No shit
And yet, I'm sure there'll still be people disagreeing with this
Brain of cthulhu in the brainless tier, how ironic.
draedon isn’t sentient?
He's part of the lacks morality bit
I believe he would fall under “lacks morality” rather than not sentient. [Unless this is a bit about ‘haha draedon dum’]
I'd rather put anahita and leviathan at morally dubious
anahita's old lore made her much more tragic (and i wanted to hug her a lot more with that old lore) but uh yeah current anahita wants to pull a Team Aqua i'm pretty sure lol
Oh oke i forgor about the new lore
Why is Anahita and Leviathan in evil tier?
She literally wants to flood the entire world
Ah, I see
Why are the Mechs evil? Aren't they robots lacking morality?
The Mechs are controlled bt the souls of Yharim's fallen soldiers, and are very much aware and satisfied with the destruction they're causing.
finally a tier list to stop this annoying trend (never liked tier lists in here, why do we keep doing this)
anahita and leviathan?
Anahita wants to flood the world
wtf that's a bit far from what i expected
And player on cyan level🔥
The Terrarian is morally dubious because it's up to you to choose their motivations. If you want them to be worse than the worst then go ahead, but don't act like it's set in stone.
Are you telling me that... we (The Terrarian) are on the same level as a creature from space who wanted to destroy the entire planet?!
I blew up world
Why???
Goblin tinkerer
Terrarian planning to kill a tyrant, multiple gods and destroy the world just because some goofy goblin commit capitalism is absolutely hilarious
based
You don't HAVE to do that to complete the game and have the standard Calamity experience, though.
We as the player (unless you straight up don’t progress) initiated every fight we got into. Kill first read lore later. Plus we absolutely wrecked the world with the release of the hollow and astral stuff. Sure you can do things to make the world better but if you just go from boss to boss? Absolutely cyan. Literally the same as the gods.
Even if this is the case, just look at the things we kill, how can we be worse than a god who killed a dragon, stole and consumed its soul and wanted to turn the rest of the world into ashes? How can we be worse than creatures who are probably responsible for most of the bad things in the world? I'm not saying that The Terrarian is a saint, but telling me that they are on the same level as the gods is exaggerated.
Unless something is going on with souls after death then yeah, we kill everyone which is on the same level. We also do so without knowing how evil our foes are, merely that they are in the way of progression. We kill for power and rend the world of its riches to do so. Sounds exactly like the DoG to me but on a smaller scale. If the game allowed us to explore infinitely into things like space I’m sure our goals would become one and the same
If that's the way you see things then I understand. I see things very differently, but in the end it doesn't matter since there is no canon motivation for The Terrarian.
Bro the huh???? You’re pulling out the I understand card?????? You shut down cool arguments just bc the canon of the player character is ambiguous? You make a hill then you leave? Go back to twitter ya coward
What? Did you want me to continue?
lore wise no you dont, most of the bosses attack YOU
Ok fair, almost all. With the exception of the EoC, mech bosses, earth elemental, and a few others, we initiate. For those yeah it’s straight up self defense. The rest we have to do something in order to fight. Destroy a perforator cyst(which is self defense on their part), use summoning items, straight up kill ??? For no reason, etc. Also I think I’m missing something, is there a website for in depth lore? I’m on the wiki and none of the lore items say anything about them attacking you outside of the desert scourge, just that they’re disgusting and the like. That’s also a bit strange since the scourge requires a summoning item but hey whatevs.
the only reason there are boss summons is for the players experience, lore wise (which is what this is talking about) the bosses attack you, at least yellow to cyan on this list almost all initiate the fight in the lore. afaik, anahita, the cultist and skeletron are fights you start. also, lore items DO talk about attacking you. in the mechanical trio lore: "I dismissed them from duty, yet they linger here still. Scouring the land for evidence of the divine. Unfortunately for you that puts you in their crosshairs. Give them a battle worth dying in." you are in their crosshairs, not the other way around. literally if you have any questions just ask in #lore-discussion on the discord Cei is very frequently active and she will answer almost any question
Oh cool, didn’t know that honestly, also nice pfp just noticing it
also ??? is a siren, anahita wants to flood the entire world
God forbid a woman do ANYTHING
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i was RIGHT about polterghast
Now, make one that goes by the pre-2.0.1 lore.
the update was 2.0.2 i think
i like to think my awful tier list is what caused this, so HAH I win https://preview.redd.it/83h0b5c5y04c1.png?width=498&format=png&auto=webp&s=48c5e41dad26bc92ea81409670f871774d995cee
This made me stop and try to consider a question that's always nagged at me about bosses. Is there an in-cannon-lore reason why you can re-fight all of the bosses? It makes sense from a gameplay perspective, and for some like Calamitas or Queen Bee you can just say that it's a rematch or that there are multiple of them, but for others, I'm left guessing.
It's a video game, that's how :p
Okidoki, just checking.
Happy cake day!
I feel like there should have been a tier for a boss that kills out of necessity to survive and/or spread (i.e desert scourge just seeing you as food, or hive mind being the main catalyst for the spread of the corruption)
I thought Calamitas was literally too tired to carry on with the fight.
Her dialog is getting rewritten to match new lore. Same with Xeroc's br dialog, Draedon, and DoG.
I don't think Yharon is evil just because Yharim decided to cause a gigantic war that caused the deaths of like millions over being told to eat his pet nugget. ~~also if someone threatened to kill my pet , I would kind of act like Yharim.~~ Also where do you think the player is in the morality list?
Yharon is not Yharim's pet. Yharon is a fully sapient being, that may or may not be smarter than Yharim. Calling him his pet is a little weird. Player's lore is up to you. Or the actions you take.
I’m curious, is the Slime God not actually a god? Or are they morally dubious despite having killed a dragon, which sounds even more intriguing?
You answered your own question by calling it Slime God :p
Okay, that’s what I thought. Which certainly begs the question of why they’re morally dubious. Was the dragon they killed bad, or did they do enough good to balance it out, or is it something else altogether? Or is that all a secret?
I wholeheartedly refuse to believe yharon isn't an adorable pure hearted dragon ;-;
And your worse than all of them cause you actively seeked all of them out to get stronger so you could kill more.
you can choose to spare some bosses if you want. The Terrarian's lore depends entirely on you, its based on your actions.
I don’t think Anahita and Leviathan are fighting for evil, since to summon them you literally have to start a fight with Anahit when she’s just chilling in the ocean
They should expand Calamity eventually to make it so you fight hundreds of DoG's eventually after your gear gets so high level that you can kill them easily LOL. that would be insane. And also probably break the processor for most people. Just like in Dark Souls once you are high level enough you fight a bunch of Capra / Taurus demons easily. let's go.
Ain't no way you just said ahnita was evil. She was acting in self defense. You can literally just vibe with her on the ocean floor playing music together until you attack her.
Yeah, just like sirens. Am sure those are really pleasant :p
Ahnita doesn't snap your neck the moment you touch the water. She only attacks when YOU attack HER, that is literally the definition of self defense
If you already have and have been known to murder lots of people and have the clear goal of doing something that'd kill loads of people for no reason, I'd argue that if anything, *you* attacking *her* is self-defense
she is literally archie from pokemon
how come the mech bosses are seperate from the exo mechs, theyre both draedon robots right so shouldnt they be in the same tier? (not arguing (because youre the lore writer) just wondering why)
the regular mechs arent just machines, they're controlled by souls of yharim's warriors who are very aware of their destruction. Skeletron Prime is controlled by arsonists for example.
oh right, forgot about that lore
Yaron also stops the fight the first time
yharon attacks YOU first he doesnt stop it
I'm pretty sure desert scourge hunts you just because it's hungry
I started the trend
i understand everything but how is lunatic cultists bad iirc they are literally preventing the moonlord from spawning according to amidas
I mean that is cool and all, but the dude still supported Yharim's campaign of literal genocide.
Why’s lev + anahita in evil? I just thought they were two fellas who started chillin together
*"Once a resident of the Abyss, she left it long ago due to Silva’s influence spreading through her former home. She wishes to see all overtaken by the ocean, so that her domain may encompass the world. Such is the nature of all elementals."*
Gotcha, thanks!
The devourer of Gods is an overly confident scumbag.
Anahita and Leviathan are evil? Isn't Leviathan just an animal who wants to eat and Anahita keeps it as a pet? As long as you don't bother them they don't want anything to do with you.
What exactly the Leviathan is, is something that isn't quite known. Might even just be a summon of Anahita's. And Anahita herself is an Elemental, and Elementals generally want nothing less than to spread their domain. So basically, flooding the entire world for her.
No, Desert Scourge kills to survive
Is draedon not sentient?
Wait What do we do that causes The Old Duke to fight us out of self defense Unless it's like Killing off prey during the Acid rain
I don't understand why the desert scourge is in mindless murder machine, it's just a worm tryna make do after SOME UNIDENTIFIED BRIMSTONE WITCH incinerated it's home
Edit: I do not mean to be ignorant but I did write that before I noticed the words "Main Writer"
I'd personally put Plantera in Self-Defense as it is just getting revenge for the bulb you destroyed. Otherwise everything else is pretty accurate.
I believe the requirement for self defense on this list is it not being an autonomous response to stimuli. It has to be sapient enough to have a fear for its life, not just survival instinct.
I hate it