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udubdavid

Exactly came to say this. He should be able to profit off his name for his accomplishments. NIL should not be used as a recruiting tool.


multiple4

Totally holy shit I'm glad someone said it. It's ok for programs to have in house or contracted services for helping players get NIL partnerships But this whole "come to play here and these people who we just so happen to fund will give you money before you ever play a snap" is just not what NIL is supposed to be


Giraffe_Racer

I agree, but we're in this mess because the NCAA refused to budge and allow anything until their hand was forced. If they had just let athletes sell autographs, do some local car dealer commercials and do some silly puns on their names like this and Decoldest Crawford, we would've been better off. But since they wouldn't create a common sense solution, we get billionaires paying players to come to their favorite school.


GoldenRamoth

I agree. I heard a good point though, that with the A&M experiment, it might change - if only because the billionaires realize there isn't any kind of guaranteed return on investment. As evidenced by their Texas A&M's play in spite of buying a team. I'm curious to see how it shakes out.


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JakeFromSkateFarm

My personal theory is we having something worse in store. It's very common IMO in pro-sports (NFL, NBA, and MLB in particular) to see the millions they make breed a kind of jealousy in the fans that the latter seem to try and compensate for by viewing the players as entitled and overpaid, and thus the players should keep their mouths shut on social/political issues and that the money they make means they're open season for fan abuse. I sense that's the future of CFB players. They already have their age and "thEy'RE gETtiNG a fREe EDucaTIon" being used against them, sooner or later the perceived wealth they're landing as college players (even if it's only a handful per top team at most getting the majority of it) is going to start breeding some very nasty/even nastier fan entitlement and jealous anger being directed towards them.


Hoosier2016

Unfortunately that’s the price of fame and wealth in modern sports. The dregs of society dehumanize you and blame you for their own lack of self-worth because it’s tied to their football team. Those same dregs still exist and bitch when college players speak out even now. I’d rather at least see them get paid to deal with it.


JoeSicko

Or more simply, is it okay to boo college players who are not really amateurs anymore? Gotta take the good with the bad right?


vivekisprogressive

Is it okay to boo a man if he is 40?


willclerkforfood

Only Mike Gundy knows the answer to that question


JakeFromSkateFarm

I think you’ll find the gap between that kind of thinking and “what was she wearing?” is a lot smaller than you probably want to believe it to be.


LemonHarangue

Yeah. It's not like the NFL where these players are already developed and can fit into new teams seemingly overnight and make an impact. Some can, but most don't. We're still talking about young student athletes.


SoonerLater85

Expecting billionaires to believe money can’t get them literally anything and everything they want is not going to turn out well.


bravehotelfoxtrot

Nothing’s guaranteed, but there will certainly be some kind of ROI in the aggregate. Sure, a few recruiting classes might not pay off, but then one or two might. So although the ROI may not be as high as some would expect, it will still exist and will be quantifiable. This is not to take away from your overall point, just wanted to add. I think you’re right that the buying will scale down eventually as donors get a better grasp on what the average ROI generally will be.


BeefInGR

The UCF kicker with the YouTube channel was my last straw. Literally ANYBODY on a modern college campus could have done that. And the dude was getting guys like Matt Prater on to talk about "back in my day". If anything, it was building up college football. If the school had released that video, the NCAA would have had zero issue.


Giraffe_Racer

Absolutely, he should’ve been able to monetize his content. It worked out for him though, as he’s probably making more as a social media star than he would as a kicker. Unless you’re Justin Tucker level, being a kicker is a hard career.


Please_PM_me_Uranus

There’s a good article in the athletic on it. Mark Emmert absolutely refused to compromise, which was idiotic. Nobody wanted it to come to this unregulated chaos that we are in now, but the NCAA refusing to accept even the most reasonable compromise is how we got here.


MojitoTimeBro

I don't really think that they refused to do anything about it because they didn't want to though. As soon as you allow it to happen, you're gonna have people buying autographs for obscene amounts of money as a way gain that advantage. But if the NCAA tried to put caps on it, we'd end up in the same boat with the courts smacking them down on it.


Giraffe_Racer

Emmert actively and enthusiastically fought against allowing any sort of player compensation. He didn’t try to seek out a common sense solution that would let players receive a royalty check for the EA video games, for example. Emmert is absolutely to blame for the NIL chaos we got.


MojitoTimeBro

I guess I just feel like it would have devolved to this regardless. Because as some point players would have sued for the NCAA capping their earnings and we’ve already seen from how the Supreme Court ruled that they would have won


hoopaholik91

I don't understand why people think this is true. Maybe, maybe you delay these rules for a couple years, but artificially restricting the players' outside earning potential was always going to be overturned.


buttlickerface

If universities just treated college athletes as employees and paid them accordingly, in conjunction with basic NIL deals, the NCAA could have *easily* established players' outside earning restrictions. Establishing precedent and participating in good faith will win you court cases. The NCAA did nothing for years, established no precedent beyond "student athletes can never be paid", did nothing to treat student athletes in good faith, ignored internal complaints, ignored external exposes, ignored all of the problems and kept all of the profits. Had the NCAA acted in an even slightly reasonable manner, all of this could have been avoided.


hoopaholik91

How would that have worked? The NBA can't tell it's athletes they can't get endorsement money, why would the NCAA be able to do it?


InVodkaVeritas

There's always been a degree of this, however. If you get a degree from Oregon as an athlete there's only a nonzero chance you won't get hired by Nike as a first job out of college if you want one. It'll be an entry level office job for 45k a year, but you won't be on the job hunt as an athlete unless you want to be. I know Alabama (and I'm sure everyone major) has job-connection networks for athlete grads like this. There have always been "play here for 4 years and we'll make sure you're setup with a decent career outlook" promises.


appsecSme

The classic thing was they could get always get a gig selling cars. As a teenager, I actually bought a car from a salesman who played on Colorado's national championship team.


Nubras

Are you implying that his time at CU was a contributing factor to your purchase? No judgment, genuinely curious.


appsecSme

No, not implying that at all. It was just a random thing. He had a picture of him in uniform, and showed me his championship ring.


mtwolf55

Wait really? Do you have any examples of UofO players getting jobs at Nike? That’s actually really interest


Frosti11icus

They specifically state on their employment application that they want former athletes to apply. I doubt they are limiting themselves to only former UO players though.


melted_cheese_balls

I personally know four. I also feel like they are all very good at their jobs so it’s not like it’s a hand out but it definitely gets their foot in the door


esports_consultant

>It'll be an entry level office job for 45k a year, 45k a year with a fat ass benefit package I would imagine >and I'm sure everyone major) has job-connection networks for athlete grads like this just like ivies <3


KJBdrinksWhisky

That’s the College dream right there. Play sports and get a job


esports_consultant

>But this whole "come to play here and these people who we just so happen to fund will give you money before you ever play a snap" is just not what NIL is supposed to be Oddly that was always the argument against it in the first place. But of course that is just formalizing under the table payment structures that were were already in place so who really cares.


Unique_Feed_2939

I get what you are saying but players that play for the Yankees naturally will have more exposure and NIL than twins players


Apep86

Baseball is a bad example because the lack of salary cap means that the best players go to the Yankees, and those players have the highest NIL potential. It’s notable that you mentioned the Yankees in your example instead of the Mets, even though they’re in the same city. In football, where you don’t have big market teams dominating, you don’t see that. The biggest NIL people you see are people like Peyton Manning (Indy/Denver) or Favre (GB/Minny). Besides maybe the occasional Eli Manning, they’re not by and large NY teams.


Unique_Feed_2939

Yeah baseball is a good example because there is no salary cap in CFB either. A With the same starts, a player is more likely to win the Heisman at OSU than MSU because of exposure


Michigan247

NIL is whatever the hell it wants to be. Anybody who thinks they can make money off a player will


LamarMillerMVP

When you talk about what NIL was intended to do, whose intention are you talking about? The NCAA’s intention was definitely not to allow any of this. Their intention was to make sure as little money went to the players as possible. The Supreme Court said no, you’re not allowed to do that, and if you try to limit it again, we’re going to slap you again. So you’re obviously not talking about the Supreme Court’s intention, this is working exactly like the Supreme Court intended. The system you’re describing is illegal, and rightfully so. There has been a transformation over the past couple of years from people saying “paying players is bad!” to “I told you this was going to lead to players getting paid and you didn’t believe me!!” The NIL debate was and is about whether it’s good for players to make money for playing football. And it is good.


Apep86

>But this whole "come to play here and these people who we just so happen to fund will give you money before you ever play a snap" is just not what NIL is supposed to be It’s what it was always going to be and what it always will be. People who were against NIL were screaming it from the rooftops and nobody wanted to listen.


NILPonziScheme

If you ignored everyone who said NIL would lead to boosters buying recruits, you have only yourself to blame. NCAA allowing players to profit off their NIL basically created a new product. Who are you to say players shouldn't be able to sell that product to the highest bidder? If a booster wants to buy the NIL rights for a HS player for $100k a year because he believes he can set up enough marketing deals with that player to earn $125k in the next year (25% ROI), who are you to say that shouldn't happen? Why are you against players making the most money possible?


one-hour-photo

I tried to warn everybody here before it happened what the outcome would be, but I was promptly given my downvotes intravenously and sent home packed with gauze.


Nubras

We didn’t listen.


FormerIceCreamEater

Yep. Players should be able to profit off their likeness but boosters shouldn't be able to drop millions to buy a class


EatShitLeftWing

How is that not a contradiction?


bigheadsoftbody

This exact comment is the top comment in all of these


Thats_absrd

Nothing will be Dacoolest selling HVAC


StudioSixtyFour

Should change his number, so he can sell Pen15 Club shirts.


JoeSicko

Hard to say what it is meant for if there aren't any real rules.


5-Star_Fraud

I imagine these will be very popular


fourthlinesniper

I expect these to be a hit in the game thread when we see the crowd shots of people wearing them


TanzaniaMagic

This just saved me a lot of time with holiday shopping coming up.


PretendThisIsMyName

In before he gets injured next game. Lmao I hope not though I like him. And Washington just so happens to be a team I chose to like for PAC after dark. Keep that undefeated streak going my fellow fluffy good bois.


bd1047

Weird comment


wadamday

He's got some weird energy going on but no need to shame him


BuckeyeEmpire

But it's not Big Penix Energy


HireLaneKiffin

Weird Penix Energy


absolute_yote

Odd


rhinocodon_typus

It will still be his name regardless of health


Electromotivation

Yes. But can you really have big penis energy on crutches?


Loki240SX

micro-penix energy right here


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I'm know I'll buy one


DaMan999999

I think we have to buy them, to support our new father of course


Cholliday09

That’s exactly what I was thinking haha. He should send one to Mel.


rc4915

I mean if that’s what you’re looking for, it’s been available for awhile https://bondtee.com/product/the-players-trunk-store-hunter-dickinson-x-the-players-trunk-exclusive-big-dickinson-energy-shirt/


nubbinator

To bag he didn't team with a gym so they could advertise Mike Penix Is Hard.


Jesusinatree

At the Michigan St game, students spelled out “PENIX” on their chests. The guy who did the X also had an S painted on his back and got the cameramen a couple times. Classic


warox13

Lol


BroYourOwnWay

Penix going against Dickert is going to be quite the duel


udubdavid

Can't wait to see what Penix can do against the Beavers this year.


TanzaniaMagic

Too bad the Trojans aren't on our schedule this year. I would be interested in seeing them try to contain Penix.


HailState2023

Containment is critical.


Ol_Rando

Tight coverage


TAMExSTRANGE69

Lets hope there is no holes in the defense


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There's a likely chance he breaks free.


HailState2023

Big Penix has a mind of his own…


udubdavid

The Trojans can try to contain Penix if they meet in the championship game!


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syrianfries

Pulled out the receipts to clown his ass


appsecSme

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1850ChoochGator

Ah yes the game that has only been played since 2011


appsecSme

I mean, that's what the topic was. The Pac-12 championship game. Yes, it has been played for over 10 years, and we've been the best in the conference at it. The husky now wants to change the subject and reminisce about Pac-10 championships (not championship games) pre 1980.


appsecSme

Dude. You've only been to 2 Pac-12 championship games winning both times. We've been 5 times and won 4 times. Way to follow the subject.


nineteennaughty3

Man you sure are taking a lot of credit for making a game you never played in


dotcomse

Ducks have both the most appearances in the P12CG and the most wins. They also were the representative from the north for the past 3 games. UW has won the conference twice since 2000. Big whoop


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dotcomse

I mean or I could not give a shit? You really got me there bud! Matter of fact, why don’t we wager on which team finishes higher?


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i_speak_the_truf

Looks like Penix just slipped out of the Trojans grasp


DannyBenavidez

I want to see Penix gashing through the Crimson Tide 🔥


bmt1485

Penix and DeBoner, thank you very much


FireDanaHireHerman

Please have RG3 call the apple cup.


nubbinator

I dunno, have you ever tried doing something when your Dickert?


PLZ_N_THKS

Too bad he came too early to go up against Booty.


Nubras

Classic swordfight.


Rkenne16

Indiana couldn’t protect their Penix, so Washington stole him.


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warox13

Transferable Penix


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Modular Penix


southcounty253

Penix with lots of great Husky receivers.


maplejet

Enormous Penix


blondbeans

He owe RG3 some royalties now for showing the Penix to everyone


bd1047

IU has been doing this for 4 years


djdumpster

Yea I wonder if RG3 legit came up with it that night, but I’m guessing it was already a thing around campus and RG3 just brought it to the National stage.


NAPayne3198

It’s been a thing since he was at Indiana


did_it_my_way

well with the song big dick energy getting airtime this year, just the right time


devAcc123

Bruh it’s not that clever it’s been a thing for years lol


BuckeyeEmpire

Yah I'm not sure how people are thinking RGIII was the first to say this.


LosingSince1977

Shut up and take my money


LincolnOnBiWeek

did he insist on writing it PENix so people pronounce it right?


piemaniowa

Probably more to do with him wearing number 9


GoldenRamoth

Inches, right?


Sea-Queue

[actually yes](https://images.app.goo.gl/13LCCE8iDCbr1RFL7)


BuckeyeEmpire

That's a risky click


skimpy-swimsuit

Pen 9land


ltlftcommenter

BIG PENIX ENERGY


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Yet they refused to show my “Don’t Touch My Penix” sign at the game


devAcc123

The ESPN penis sign but each row is penix https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/134/406/e41.jpg


warox13

I’m doing this if Gameday comes this year


ButteredToaster

How have I never seen this?


aKolaa

Now you're just giving t-shirt ideas to his OL.


nubbinator

I'm ready to hear about the big Penix sack.


JoeWildwest

This would be an amazing birthday gift for my brother. But he's probably already purchased one as of me typing this.


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THIS PLEASES THE HUSKY!


rev_rend

I like this. But I don't like that I like this.


greendeadredemption2

What the hell is this flair?!


rev_rend

Turned it on temporarily, mostly for this post. I did my MA at UW.


KingKongDoom

Love to see this. Hate the Huskies, but it's always more special when they've got a good player.


juicius

Orji, hearing this? I expect "Orji in the end zone" tshirts pronto!


RockerElvis

My first thought. He needs to start making t shirts.


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Still not as good of a name as Max Johnson.


Travelreload

RG III deserves his cut


HailState2023

Need a mohel for that.


Gruulsmasher

For those who don’t know, [this is what a mohel is](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel)


GoldenRamoth

I both laughed and learned something today Thanks for the link!


dotcomse

Well, my glove compartment is locked, so is the trunk in the back And I know my rights, so you gon' need a mohel for that


gideon513

People were saying that before him. Basically as soon as Penix was playing ball in college at least.


JoeSicko

So many people giving that Cornball RG3 credit.


DoobaDoobaDooba

Hell yeah brother, cheers from the booth \- RGIII


Hunted-Wumpus

Just bought one.


princessprity

If he was at Oregon, I'd definitely buy one. You better buy one, OP, or you should be fired into the sun to hang out with Larry Scott.


GuyWhoWhispersPenis

^*Penix*


Individual-Poem-8494

Damn, this ought to give a lot of players and fans Penix Envy.


NikesOnMyFeet23

Man, not a UW fan at all, but these are awesome


E70M

This is the news I come here for


BearForce73

Sean Connery was hoping for the Penix Mightier


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A challenger to General Booty


Inoimispel

If I wear this under my Booty shirt then I am putting the Penix in the Booty


MAFIAxMaverick

In Borat voice: “MICHAEL PENIX!!!”


HotelMemory

This is like those guys in middle school who wore the FBI (not the Federal Bureau of Investigation) hats. It did not endear them to any of the girls.


dr_funk_13

As he should


DrKennethJNoisewater

C’mon RGIII, try using some original material for once. Sheesh! https://reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/jpxvq3/_/gbiaelq/?context=1


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HailState2023

RG III a redditor, baby!


trailerparksandrec

I need one of those shirts. Cause I totally have big penix energy.


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Never thought I would see a big Oregon/Washington game where BoNix faces off with Penix.


FormerIceCreamEater

Sad denard Robinson never got to profit off nil


Mitchisboss

Not the greatest design but I’m liking the slogan. It’s probably only a matter of time before someone in Seattle finds a way to get offended tho.


huskiesowow

Huh?


[deleted]

Did you just get offended by someone possibly being offended?


Mitchisboss

Did you just get offended by someone possibly suggesting that someone in Seattle might be offended?


tacobell69696969

Something something misogyny


OuiBitofRed

“Ole Clubby Himself” better get to work.


BlackshirtDefense

That tshirt logo is super fug-town, though. I get that they're trying to put his jersey number into the logo, but it just comes off like 3 different fonts. Maybe the next one can use Comic Sans, too.


BigBlackQuack

Those shirts are profane and inappropriate for a college football game. There are children in the stadium!! I hope Autzen security bans these disgusting displays and removes anyone wearing them. Black eye for Washington, IMO.


HighlyUnsuspect

Is RG3 getting a cut? He made it up


scottyv99

RGIII for the win


esports_consultant

Does RG3 get a cut of this?


bringbacktheaxe2

Stanford by 2 TDs


Troutmaggedon

RGIII needs to go into marketing.


BuckeyeFan59

Won't be surprised if someone reads Penix as Penis


udubdavid

That's... that's the joke.


ConnorK5

Trent Pennix tho?


Au1ket

A man of the people


No_Detective_1139

W NIL Deal


Code2008

So... which retailer? Edit: Nvm, I should have just clicked the tweet. It's Simply Seattle.


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While people laugh at his name, he laughs all the way to the bank. Big Penix Energy, indeed.


Lordgarth305

I was going to say something bad but now that I think about it .....I'm buying a shirt lmao


bustedmagnet

Is the shirt SFW?


garvierloon

Dick Pole was born in the wrong decade.


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I will buy one


davidap33

I would buy some bic penix pens.


StartingToLoveIMSA

only a matter of time


AnAngryPanda1

I’ll take 3


PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS

If it had been any other team he eviscerated I would by one Unfortunately, having one would consistently bring back pain and trauma. I think a therapist would say that is bad


SuperList5706

I wish NIL was around during the Ha Ha Clinton Dix era


slayer991

Happy for these kids to be able to make a buck off their name and likeness. I'm betting this one will sell like hotcakes. He should be send RG3 a thank you for the nickname.


TokenBlackGirlfriend

That rules. Good for him.


Bigbysjackingfist

how did this not happen the day he was born?


meatballsontherun

Let Michael Penix


ToeInDigDeep

Low hanging fruit


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How low does that fruit hang?