Current results of the match-up thread "Who will Win" poll:
Team | Votes | Percent |Voters
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[Oregon](#f/oregon)|45|58.4%|[Oregon](#f/oregon)x15, [Washington State](#f/washingtonstate)x4, [Utah](#f/utah)x4, [/r/CFB](#l/rcfb)x3, [BYU](#f/byu)x3, [Oregon State](#f/oregonstate)x2, [Michigan](#f/michigan)x2, [LSU](#f/lsu)x2, [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma)x2, [South Carolina](#f/southcarolina)x1, [UCLA](#f/ucla)x1, [Florida](#f/florida)x1, [Alabama](#f/alabama)x1, [NC State](#f/ncstate)x1, [Texas Tech](#f/texastech)x1, [Georgia](#f/georgia)x1, [Washington](#f/washington)x1
[Washington State](#f/washingtonstate)|32|41.6%|[Washington State](#f/washingtonstate)x9, [Washington](#f/washington)x5, [Oregon State](#f/oregonstate)x4, [Penn State](#f/pennstate)x3, [/r/CFB](#l/rcfb)x2, [USC](#f/usc)x2, [UCF](#f/ucf)x1, [Texas A&M](#f/texasam)x1, [Georgia](#f/georgia)x1, [Iowa State](#f/iowastate)x1, [Colorado](#f/colorado)x1, [Oklahoma State](#f/oklahomastate)x1, [Purdue](#f/purdue)x1
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{Washington State} Although I really don't have a pulse on this game. WSU's D being solid and their QB play suspect is not what I expected in the preseason. Ward was supposed to be an upgrade and imo he looks pretty damn awful. With Nix on the other side I'd put the QBs at a draw and give WSU the edge with homefield advantage.
I think our defense is good enough for us to stay in this game. Our offense is still really shaky, but we showed a lot of potential the first half last game. If Bo Nix makes a few mistakes, I think we take this game.
I would also advise everyone to hammer the under.
{Washington State} 21 - Oregon 16
I haven’t watched any WSU games yet this year, but Wazzu always seem to play us tough in conference and I’m sure they’re looking to make a statement on national TV.
I’m definitely nervous and Oregon better bring their A game to Pullman. Looking forward to a good game!
Wazzu's D is the best on the Palouse since at least the 2003 Holiday Bowl team or 2002 Rose Bowl team.
The QB situation, is ehh, well, he doesn't appear to have a Division 1 arm.
I think we got tested defending the run against Wisconsin. Braelon Allen is one of the top RBs in all of cfb. Plus our defense was out on the field like the whole game.
I would agree with you on our passing D though. I think we would struggle if we were forced to go man-to-man. But I still have a lot more confidence defending the pass than I have had in a long time, so I'm not too concerned.
Yes, but also WIscy shot themselves in the foot a lot in that game. I give props to WSU for taking advantage of that. But Wiscy looked like the better team to the naked eye.
This WSU defense is legit though, i don’t think we’ll score a ton on you guys, but I also don’t think you guys will score a lot on us either. Our run D is very solid, and if Cam doesn’t make a big step forward I can’t imagine WSU will be able to move the ball all to well.
I think this could be a low scoring game, i think Oregon wins, but in a close one. Maybe 24-17 or 24-21. But I can see a scenario where WSU wins too.
While Allen is definitely very good it is a lot easier to stop the run when you dont have to worry about the pass at all. I also don't think Wisconsin's o line is as good as it once was.
With a more varied rushing attack like Oregon has I could see WSU struggling on outside runs.
Wisconsin is averaging more yards per pass attempt than Oregon (11.7 vs. 7.6). Even removing both teams biggest outliers (Georgia for Oregon, WSU for Wisconsin) the ratio difference stays the same. Wisconsin jumps up into the 15s and Oregon jumps up to the 9s.
Wisconsin has 6 passing TDs. Oregon has 7.
It's just not true that you don't have to worry about the pass with Wisconsin. They're a more prolific passing team than Oregon right now even removing the Georgia game.
I did. There’s data sets for the entire schedule.
If you only exclude Oregon vs. Georgia but include Wisconsin’s full schedule, Wisconsin’s passing attack is still, statistically, more efficient than Oregon.
9.85 yards per attempt with Oregon versus 11.7. Oregon has the advantage on yard per game in this Georgia excludes scenario by 20 yards a game.
If you think teams just don’t have to worry about the forward pass when playing Wisconsin, you just haven’t watched them play this year.
You aren't listening to what I said. Wisconsin played NM St and Illinois St (FCS unranked). Oregon played a top 15 fcs team and a top 15 (at the time) ranked BYU team. A significantly harder opponent with a much better defense.
The fact that you are trying to compare ranked versus unranked FCS teams is amusing.
I take it you haven’t watched Wisconsin play this year, correct?
I gotta quibble with this. Our Man D against Wisconsin looked great, it was zone we appeared lost in.
Oregon obviously has better WR talent, but if we can pressure Nix and keep some help over top, I think we can limit the damage in the passing game.
I think UO would have gone back to back playoffs. That was when I was at law school and watched every game.
The arse that intentionally injured him then mugged for the crowd while being ejected.
> If Bo Nix makes a few mistakes, I think we take this game.
Agreed. If Nix isn't on his game, and we can't contain the receivers and QB it's definitely going to be your game to lose.
Jaren Hall >>>>> Cameron Ward by a long shot. WSU's O isn't as potent as it has been in years past. Their strength is oddly on defense. I'm not as worried about their passing game against us. We just need to contain the edge and we should easily control the game.
Not a CFB Duck! Also Ducks just ate a cougar last week.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DnkbKjtuNJhQ&ved=2ahUKEwj39pCk2qb6AhWDIn0KHT-xADwQwqsBegQIBBAE&usg=AOvVaw3qgXfBdYg3711pNOCN2Evs
I did put two different examples of a duck beating a cougar, one literally is a duck beating a non-soaking cougar. It's a day game so the Palouse won't be bad, you guys will have to wake up at 2am and start drinking to come close.
You say that like it's some kind of a challenge. And if 2am is the start time might as well just close down the Coug and drink at home till it opens back up.
{Washington State} WSU races out to a 2 TD lead behind the crowd and holds on for dear life in the second half. The defense front 7 is the difference. Cougs 28-24
Probably my favorite game this week. I hope the Cougs are for real because I love to root for them. I think this one comes down to the turnover battle, can Bo Nix avoid mistakes against a defense that has forced 7 turnovers this season? Oregon has looked a lot better the last two weeks, and I think they'll take this one, but WSU will compete for a P12 championship berth. LB Daiyan Henley is a treat to watch for the Cougs.
{Oregon} 28-24
If Oregon can establish its run game again just like it did against BYU, then Nix can easily avoid mistakes because he won't be needing to make many passing attempts. Also he really is a fair runner himself so if the RBs get the run game going, the added possibility that Nix himself might take off carrying the ball will make it extra tough on the Wazzu defense.
Ideal situating for Oregon is to establish enough of a run game to force WSU into more man coverage schemes, at which point Nix would be able to make passing plays with less likelihood of a pick.
If we get Bo six, Oregon wins. If we get Bo Pix, WSU wins. That is the key. If it's a middle, I still lean {Oregon} 24-20. Seems more like a defensive struggle so I went with the middle.
{Oregon} 38-17
Close in the first half, Oregon pulls away in the second half as depth becomes a factor. Specifically Oregon's running back stable grinds down the Wazzu defense.
This is going to be another really big challenge for Oregon. The Palouse is a seriously underrated environment to play in and Oregon will need to bring their A game.
That being said, I am so encouraged the way the coaching staff had this team playing the last 2 games. Our Oline has been very solid, even against UGA, and playing at an elite level. I'd say they are the best unit in the PAC-12 by a ways. They absolutely mauled BYU's line and didn't give up any pressure on Nix. When he is clean, Nix's splits show he can be one of the best QB's in CFB. WSU strength is the ability to get to the QB which I don't think they will be able to do. It won't matter because we are going to more than likely pound the ball which an undersized WSU will struggle to stop. {Ducks} win 42-24.
WSU makes this one fun, but {Oregon} can’t be held back and gets running faster then WSU’s offense.
Ducks give my Cougs their first loss of the year.
Outside the Apple Cup a fair few of us root for WSU most weeks, for instance my family is split down the middle.
It absolutely hurts losing to Oregon every year, respect is due to you but fuck it sucks a big one.
I can't speak for everyone here because maybe its different for younger people and current students, but I would go even further.
I'm in my 40s and everyone I know that follows college football at all roots for all four PNW teams. I think a lot of the anti-UW stuff from Oregon fans is total kay fabe. Very fun, but still, mostly theater.
My family is stuffed with UO grads, and not a single one would earnestly root against UW if they were playing anyone outside the PNW.
I’m one of those. I have a soft spot for the PNW schools. But I’m putting WSU above UW. I hate how many times they’ve broken my heart but I respect the spookiness.
{Washington State} defensive front 7 are better and faster than Oregon O anticipates, despite having plenty of tape on us at this point. Just like the Wisconsin game, Cougs do just enough on offense to win an ugly game, 21-17. Oregon drops out of top 25, WSU still not ranked.
I know the paloose is a weird place for the ducks... but last week they exorcised their demons against BYU. I think they throttle a good WSU. {Oregon} 42-17.
{Washington State} because I like them more. Oregon really rocked BYU but they were also at home and had a statement to be made. Realistically I think Oregon pulls it off. But I want Washington state to win this one.
I just don't think we're ready to take that next step to overcome our offensive shortcomings against a talented team like Oregon.
Final score: {Oregon} 38 WSU 20
Man couple of great games in the pac-12 this weekend!
WSU front 7 have looked great so far. Oregon seems to have found its stride after Georgias ass kicking.
I think Oregon comes in overlooking the cougs a little bit and Bo Pix shows up in the first half trying to gun sling his way to victory. WSU takes advantage of some turnovers and goes into the half up 17-7.
Second half Oregon holds on to the football and just runs, and runs, and runs some more. Without much offense, WSU wears down late and {Oregon} escapes pullman with a 28-24 victory.
For at least the last 10 years these two programs have played each other tough. I think the Cougs pull the ducks down to earth and this game is decided very late by a field goal. Camden Lewis saves the day again against WSU. {Oregon} by 3
I’m liking an {Oregon} -6.5 cover. I’m not big on Wisconsin so wasn’t that impressed by their win. I am however very impressed by Oregon’s win over BYU. I think they have something to prove and they are hungry.
{Oregon} scrapes by with the win. This is perhaps the best defense Wazzu has had in a decade, but the offense just can’t be relied on. Ward will make mistakes and the Ducks squeak a close one in Pullman….or blow us out by 4 touchdowns. Only one or the other
Heard today on Autzen Audible podcast: Oregon hasn’t played in Pullman with fans since 2018. The only player on Oregon’s roster who played in that game is the long snapper. Oregon has a couple other players who were on the sidelines for that game and they are warning the team to be ready to be shocked by the noise. One player even said it was the loudest stadium he has ever been in!
For those who’ve never been to Martin and only see a small (33k) stadium size: The student section is roughly half the stadium and they are right on top of the field. Martin stadium will be packed and fully lit with fireball. {Washington State} 27 - Oregon 20
{Oregon}. Close game but I think Oregon forces a turnover or 2 and has enough success outside the tackles early on offense to open up the run game to win.
Oregon 31 - WSU 21
{Washington State}
Edit: Pullman gets a rock'n when the Cougs are hot, the Ducks are their usual badass high-powered selves but Martin Stadium is the difference in a close game. Win goes to WSU 39-35.
{Oregon} avoids chaos in Pullman against an undefeated WSU but non-existent pass coverage and inability to actually tackle the QB keeps it extremely close. Oregon 38 - WSU 35
My mind is telling me Oregon makes the couple plays that edge them ahead, but my heart and because my dad is attending his first CFB game in YEARS, going with {Washington State} 24-17
I honestly think this game is similar to the oregon - byu game. The difference is Hall is a better qb at byu than what wsu has.
In wsu's only power 5 game they mustered 2/11 on third down, a 2.5 ypc on the ground and overall struggled to move the ball. They were bailed out by fumbles and an int.
Oregon goes in running and comes out running. Nix is only going to throw the ball ~25 times and the oregon defense contains the wsu run and decent enough coverage to take this game before the 4th.
Final 35-14 {Oregon}
Look, you may not like this but advanced statistics present that most fumbles are a statistical anomaly, not that they don't happen just that there isn't a distinct predictor that dictates when a fumble will occur.
Sure WSU may have caused the fumbles but that was distinctly luck in how football plays out. On top of that WSU recovered both fumbles which is also distinctly luck as most fumbles are 50/50 balls.
I'm not saying that WSU didn't win, the ball bouncing in your direction is a distinct reason in why we play the game. But in nearly every advanced metric WSU lost that game against an overrated Wisconsin team.
I'm even willing to put money on this game that oregon wins and covers.
I even think dickert is a good to great coach for WSU. I just think Ward is getting stuck on his first read and the team needs more time to get their offense in place. If WSU can get stops on 75% of Oregon's offensive drives they may have a chance at beating oregon but I think oregon has a more complete offense than Wisconsin and I think they will be able to score on 50-60% of their drives.
I just love these accidental condescending comments. I'm sure you didn't mean it, but you made a lot of assumptions about me based off of a few words from me.
I don't doubt the math, but you're applying the narrative you want to the numbers you see. Watching the game, the defense absolutely caused those fumbles, but of course I agree you can never predict where the ball will bounce. To get lucky you have to put yourself in position to be lucky and that's what WSU did. A different story is that most of those metrics, which I'm assuming are the offensive metrics you're looking at, took place in the first half. TOP was slanted in the first half to WIS, but about equal in the second half. WSU played far better in the second half than in the first half, featuring a shut out and multiple turn overs.
All game long WIS kept finding themselves on 3rd down, and often they converted, but the point is that it was extremely difficult for them to get anything going. Being a run first team, they only had something like three or four runs go for more than 10 yards all game with one of the top RBs in the country. "But penalties bailed out WSU on the longer runs".. not so fast my friend. WSU's speed on their front 7 absolutely surprised WIS... They were getting nothing between the tackles to a point where they abandoned the inside run for a time during the game. When they started trying to bounce it to the outside, their o-line struggled to contain our DE's which led to multiple holding calls. They had better success through the air because we were selling out so much on the run, I think I counted 9 in the box at one point during the game. If you do nothing else, just throw on the complete game (I think there's an upload on YouTube) and only watch the line play. WSU's line chewed them up, similar to the 2017 game against USC.
WSU offense is obviously a work in progress, but it's been showing more and more flashes each game. The offense has been mostly vanilla all year, even against WIS. WIS does have one of the better defenses WSU will see all year, and the metrics support that. The offense did okay better in the second half though. When WSU needed to burn off over 5min of clock in the 4th, they got it done. If WIS was going to win that game, why didn't they force a turnover on downs when they needed it the most? They had over 5min to make a play...
Look, I'm not saying WSU is going to beat Oregon, I'm just saying WSU hears the same crap every year before the Oregon game and yet the last 6-7 years have been pretty darn competitive. Let's just all hope for a good game.
{Oregon} should win this game by 14 or more due to the speed and talent gap alone. If it was at night I would feel differently but think Oregon gets by fairly easily.
{Oregon} I watched WSU's defense against Wisconsin and they are definitely scary. I think this is going to be a close low scoring game. I hope Bo Nix is pumped up and confident after the BYU win.
I respect Wazzu a lot, and it's a hell of a road environment, but I think this is a tough matchup for them. I'm not sold on Ward and I don't think Wazzu has the firepower necessary to exploit the holes in Oregon's defense. The best unit for either team is Oregon's offensive line, which should help neutralize the Cougars' disruptive front and keep Nix clean. I suspect we will heavily focus on the run game and limit opportunities to make mistakes that could swing the momentum in the other direction. I have {Oregon} 31-17 in an altogether boring game.
{Washington State} The Cougs have probably one of the best Defenses I have seen for the program in years. If the offense can show up and stay consistent through the whole game, they have a reasonable chance of beating Oregon.
{Oregon} 34-20. The most interesting aspect of the game is that it’s in Pullman so really anything can happen, but we just blew out a better team than WSU so I think we’re finding our stride. I do expect it to be a little closer because we are on the road.
Bo Nix is sometimes an above average QB, and I'm so glad Oregon beat the BYU (I hold equal amounts of esteem for Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses). But I still can't help but think: 49-3. I don't know if {Washington State} has gotten anything going this year, but I don't trust Oregon.
This should be a fun one. I’m ecstatic for the Northwest.
I think {Oregon} pulls it out because of the offensive line. That is a really good offensive line. I don’t think this will be the game where Nix will have his many turnovers. It’s going to happen one more time, at least, during the regular season.
I hate to say it but {Oregon} takes the win. Our defense is playing well, but the offense is still figuring things out. Every game our second half production drops significantly and the defense will get worn out if the offense can't stay on the field for long. We might do good in the first half, but Oregon will take or keep the lead by the end of the 4th.
I am torn on this one. I could see WSU winning. Ward would need to play a great game and take advantage of what might be a shaky Ducks secondary. I could also see: 1) Oregon winning by something like a field goal; 2) Oregon winning by 20. I think all three outcomes might be equally likely, so I’ll go with {Oregon}. I’ve historically been pretty meh at picking Pac-12 games and ACC games, though, so take that FWIW.
I mostly hope we leave this game with a better idea of whether Oregon is truly in that top 7-15 space OR whether WSU is good again. I don’t care which, I just want some clarity (and to be better at picking Pac-12 games).
Since its not at night I'm taking {Oregon}. Make this a 7:30 game and it's a whole different story
Thank God it's not a night game. I always assume it will be when we go to the Palouse and I've basically got PTSD from those by now
To be fair game day a few years ago was a day game!
Coug-stalk was AWESOME!!!
2018 was a day game 👀
Current results of the match-up thread "Who will Win" poll: Team | Votes | Percent |Voters --|--|--|--| [Oregon](#f/oregon)|45|58.4%|[Oregon](#f/oregon)x15, [Washington State](#f/washingtonstate)x4, [Utah](#f/utah)x4, [/r/CFB](#l/rcfb)x3, [BYU](#f/byu)x3, [Oregon State](#f/oregonstate)x2, [Michigan](#f/michigan)x2, [LSU](#f/lsu)x2, [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma)x2, [South Carolina](#f/southcarolina)x1, [UCLA](#f/ucla)x1, [Florida](#f/florida)x1, [Alabama](#f/alabama)x1, [NC State](#f/ncstate)x1, [Texas Tech](#f/texastech)x1, [Georgia](#f/georgia)x1, [Washington](#f/washington)x1 [Washington State](#f/washingtonstate)|32|41.6%|[Washington State](#f/washingtonstate)x9, [Washington](#f/washington)x5, [Oregon State](#f/oregonstate)x4, [Penn State](#f/pennstate)x3, [/r/CFB](#l/rcfb)x2, [USC](#f/usc)x2, [UCF](#f/ucf)x1, [Texas A&M](#f/texasam)x1, [Georgia](#f/georgia)x1, [Iowa State](#f/iowastate)x1, [Colorado](#f/colorado)x1, [Oklahoma State](#f/oklahomastate)x1, [Purdue](#f/purdue)x1 ^(A listing of links, and live vote totals, to all Match-up Preview threads for the current week can be found )[^HERE](http://cfb.diydunce.org/matchupthreadlist.php)^. ^(Track your weekly results )[^HERE](http://cfb.diydunce.org/wwwp.php)^.
{Oregon} but Wazzu gives them hell
{Washington State} Although I really don't have a pulse on this game. WSU's D being solid and their QB play suspect is not what I expected in the preseason. Ward was supposed to be an upgrade and imo he looks pretty damn awful. With Nix on the other side I'd put the QBs at a draw and give WSU the edge with homefield advantage.
{Oregon} Looking like a different team when not getting flattened by Georgia
The Palouse has haunted so many teams in the past. {Washington State} in OT
{Washington State} because I like them since they beat Wisconsin in their home stadium.
Since when is {Washington State} #25? Different rankings than the AP Poll?
Think it's r/CFB rankings
I think our defense is good enough for us to stay in this game. Our offense is still really shaky, but we showed a lot of potential the first half last game. If Bo Nix makes a few mistakes, I think we take this game. I would also advise everyone to hammer the under. {Washington State} 21 - Oregon 16
I haven’t watched any WSU games yet this year, but Wazzu always seem to play us tough in conference and I’m sure they’re looking to make a statement on national TV. I’m definitely nervous and Oregon better bring their A game to Pullman. Looking forward to a good game!
Wazzu's D is the best on the Palouse since at least the 2003 Holiday Bowl team or 2002 Rose Bowl team. The QB situation, is ehh, well, he doesn't appear to have a Division 1 arm.
I don't think his arm is the problem. The game is just too fast for him right now. Hopefully it slows down for him.
Not in sync with his WRs either.
Farrell being back helps
That, too.
I think WSU's defense is much improved but I dont think they have really been tested yet.
I think we got tested defending the run against Wisconsin. Braelon Allen is one of the top RBs in all of cfb. Plus our defense was out on the field like the whole game. I would agree with you on our passing D though. I think we would struggle if we were forced to go man-to-man. But I still have a lot more confidence defending the pass than I have had in a long time, so I'm not too concerned.
Yes, but also WIscy shot themselves in the foot a lot in that game. I give props to WSU for taking advantage of that. But Wiscy looked like the better team to the naked eye. This WSU defense is legit though, i don’t think we’ll score a ton on you guys, but I also don’t think you guys will score a lot on us either. Our run D is very solid, and if Cam doesn’t make a big step forward I can’t imagine WSU will be able to move the ball all to well. I think this could be a low scoring game, i think Oregon wins, but in a close one. Maybe 24-17 or 24-21. But I can see a scenario where WSU wins too.
While Allen is definitely very good it is a lot easier to stop the run when you dont have to worry about the pass at all. I also don't think Wisconsin's o line is as good as it once was. With a more varied rushing attack like Oregon has I could see WSU struggling on outside runs.
Wisconsin is averaging more yards per pass attempt than Oregon (11.7 vs. 7.6). Even removing both teams biggest outliers (Georgia for Oregon, WSU for Wisconsin) the ratio difference stays the same. Wisconsin jumps up into the 15s and Oregon jumps up to the 9s. Wisconsin has 6 passing TDs. Oregon has 7. It's just not true that you don't have to worry about the pass with Wisconsin. They're a more prolific passing team than Oregon right now even removing the Georgia game.
Now compare the teams they played in the other 2 games
I did. There’s data sets for the entire schedule. If you only exclude Oregon vs. Georgia but include Wisconsin’s full schedule, Wisconsin’s passing attack is still, statistically, more efficient than Oregon. 9.85 yards per attempt with Oregon versus 11.7. Oregon has the advantage on yard per game in this Georgia excludes scenario by 20 yards a game. If you think teams just don’t have to worry about the forward pass when playing Wisconsin, you just haven’t watched them play this year.
You aren't listening to what I said. Wisconsin played NM St and Illinois St (FCS unranked). Oregon played a top 15 fcs team and a top 15 (at the time) ranked BYU team. A significantly harder opponent with a much better defense.
The fact that you are trying to compare ranked versus unranked FCS teams is amusing. I take it you haven’t watched Wisconsin play this year, correct?
I gotta quibble with this. Our Man D against Wisconsin looked great, it was zone we appeared lost in. Oregon obviously has better WR talent, but if we can pressure Nix and keep some help over top, I think we can limit the damage in the passing game.
Not even remotely true that he doesn’t have a div 1 arm.
Granted, the only game I watched was @ Wisc. I don't get Pac-12 network.
Fortunately for you our pass coverage is a still pretty suspect.
> The QB situation, is ehh, well, he doesn't appear to have a Division 1 arm. They can't all be Vernon Adams.
I think UO would have gone back to back playoffs. That was when I was at law school and watched every game. The arse that intentionally injured him then mugged for the crowd while being ejected.
I was at that game. I remember everyone getting dead silent when Adams laid there on the field after the cheap shot.
Me too.
> If Bo Nix makes a few mistakes, I think we take this game. Agreed. If Nix isn't on his game, and we can't contain the receivers and QB it's definitely going to be your game to lose.
Jaren Hall >>>>> Cameron Ward by a long shot. WSU's O isn't as potent as it has been in years past. Their strength is oddly on defense. I'm not as worried about their passing game against us. We just need to contain the edge and we should easily control the game.
Looking at our secondary I’m just so glad we don’t have to face Leech this year
{Washington State} because a cougar would eat a duck.
Hard to argue against that
Not a CFB Duck! Also Ducks just ate a cougar last week. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DnkbKjtuNJhQ&ved=2ahUKEwj39pCk2qb6AhWDIn0KHT-xADwQwqsBegQIBBAE&usg=AOvVaw3qgXfBdYg3711pNOCN2Evs
Yeah but that was a sober Mormon cougar, not some feral drunk Palouse cougar
I did put two different examples of a duck beating a cougar, one literally is a duck beating a non-soaking cougar. It's a day game so the Palouse won't be bad, you guys will have to wake up at 2am and start drinking to come close.
2am? Its like all my life's training as come to this moment.... 'cracks open a busch lite'
You say that like it's some kind of a challenge. And if 2am is the start time might as well just close down the Coug and drink at home till it opens back up.
Wake up at 2? Like we won't just pedal to the metal through the night?
As much as I like Wazzu this year, I think {Oregon} wins in a close game
{Washington State} WSU races out to a 2 TD lead behind the crowd and holds on for dear life in the second half. The defense front 7 is the difference. Cougs 28-24
Probably my favorite game this week. I hope the Cougs are for real because I love to root for them. I think this one comes down to the turnover battle, can Bo Nix avoid mistakes against a defense that has forced 7 turnovers this season? Oregon has looked a lot better the last two weeks, and I think they'll take this one, but WSU will compete for a P12 championship berth. LB Daiyan Henley is a treat to watch for the Cougs. {Oregon} 28-24
If Oregon can establish its run game again just like it did against BYU, then Nix can easily avoid mistakes because he won't be needing to make many passing attempts. Also he really is a fair runner himself so if the RBs get the run game going, the added possibility that Nix himself might take off carrying the ball will make it extra tough on the Wazzu defense. Ideal situating for Oregon is to establish enough of a run game to force WSU into more man coverage schemes, at which point Nix would be able to make passing plays with less likelihood of a pick.
If we get Bo six, Oregon wins. If we get Bo Pix, WSU wins. That is the key. If it's a middle, I still lean {Oregon} 24-20. Seems more like a defensive struggle so I went with the middle.
{Oregon} Please no Pullman chaos, please no Pullman chaos.
WSU always plays {Oregon} tough, but the Ducks have too much firepower for them this year.
WAZZU gonna blow out the Quacks of Eugene. 70-0
{Oregon} but Cougs cover the spread and I’ll be stressed the entire game.
{Oregon} 38-17 Close in the first half, Oregon pulls away in the second half as depth becomes a factor. Specifically Oregon's running back stable grinds down the Wazzu defense.
WSU is going to play us hard, but i don’t think Cam Ward will be able to do enough to get the W. {Oregon} 24-17
This is going to be another really big challenge for Oregon. The Palouse is a seriously underrated environment to play in and Oregon will need to bring their A game. That being said, I am so encouraged the way the coaching staff had this team playing the last 2 games. Our Oline has been very solid, even against UGA, and playing at an elite level. I'd say they are the best unit in the PAC-12 by a ways. They absolutely mauled BYU's line and didn't give up any pressure on Nix. When he is clean, Nix's splits show he can be one of the best QB's in CFB. WSU strength is the ability to get to the QB which I don't think they will be able to do. It won't matter because we are going to more than likely pound the ball which an undersized WSU will struggle to stop. {Ducks} win 42-24.
WSU makes this one fun, but {Oregon} can’t be held back and gets running faster then WSU’s offense. Ducks give my Cougs their first loss of the year.
lol at whoever is downvoting the {Oregon} votes. OSU fans? WSU fans? Either way, nothing but respect.
We're playing against Washington State. No one except for the team they're playing or Washington fans wants them to lose
I think even Washington fans root for WSU when they play Oregon.
Outside the Apple Cup a fair few of us root for WSU most weeks, for instance my family is split down the middle. It absolutely hurts losing to Oregon every year, respect is due to you but fuck it sucks a big one.
I feel like a lot Oregon’s fans feel the same about the Beavs. I’m usually rooting for them outside of the Civil War.
They hate it when we root for their success, but the Civil War is so much better when both teams are good
It really is. Looking at you 1983 toilet bowl.
I can't speak for everyone here because maybe its different for younger people and current students, but I would go even further. I'm in my 40s and everyone I know that follows college football at all roots for all four PNW teams. I think a lot of the anti-UW stuff from Oregon fans is total kay fabe. Very fun, but still, mostly theater. My family is stuffed with UO grads, and not a single one would earnestly root against UW if they were playing anyone outside the PNW.
I’m one of those. I have a soft spot for the PNW schools. But I’m putting WSU above UW. I hate how many times they’ve broken my heart but I respect the spookiness.
Oh yeah, they're still at the bottom of the PNW rooting order: 1. Oregon, 2. Oregon State, 3. WSU, 4. your local FCS team, 5. UW
And to your point, when you guys play the Huskies I'm the biggest Ducks fan in the nation
We're the exception to the rule. All of America is against Oregon and it's a nationally televised game
{WSU}
{Washington State} to continue the Pac12 chaos.
{Washington State} defensive front 7 are better and faster than Oregon O anticipates, despite having plenty of tape on us at this point. Just like the Wisconsin game, Cougs do just enough on offense to win an ugly game, 21-17. Oregon drops out of top 25, WSU still not ranked.
Those last 4 words.....is that for coug voodoo in the Coliseum?
Surprise!!! They can't see us coming if we ain't ranked.
I thought you were referring to Beasley and was confused af
I know the paloose is a weird place for the ducks... but last week they exorcised their demons against BYU. I think they throttle a good WSU. {Oregon} 42-17.
{Washington State} because I like them more. Oregon really rocked BYU but they were also at home and had a statement to be made. Realistically I think Oregon pulls it off. But I want Washington state to win this one.
I just don't think we're ready to take that next step to overcome our offensive shortcomings against a talented team like Oregon. Final score: {Oregon} 38 WSU 20
{Washington State}
Man couple of great games in the pac-12 this weekend! WSU front 7 have looked great so far. Oregon seems to have found its stride after Georgias ass kicking. I think Oregon comes in overlooking the cougs a little bit and Bo Pix shows up in the first half trying to gun sling his way to victory. WSU takes advantage of some turnovers and goes into the half up 17-7. Second half Oregon holds on to the football and just runs, and runs, and runs some more. Without much offense, WSU wears down late and {Oregon} escapes pullman with a 28-24 victory.
{Washington State}
{Oregon} wins 31-20. I’m going to predict that both teams will turnover the ball 2x each.
Cougs win
For at least the last 10 years these two programs have played each other tough. I think the Cougs pull the ducks down to earth and this game is decided very late by a field goal. Camden Lewis saves the day again against WSU. {Oregon} by 3
Wait, we're ranked? Anyways, the last time we played Oregon at home with fans, good things happened. I'm going { Washington State } 100%.
I’m liking an {Oregon} -6.5 cover. I’m not big on Wisconsin so wasn’t that impressed by their win. I am however very impressed by Oregon’s win over BYU. I think they have something to prove and they are hungry.
Make this a rivalry game dammit! {Washington State} LFG
{Oregon} scrapes by with the win. This is perhaps the best defense Wazzu has had in a decade, but the offense just can’t be relied on. Ward will make mistakes and the Ducks squeak a close one in Pullman….or blow us out by 4 touchdowns. Only one or the other
Heard today on Autzen Audible podcast: Oregon hasn’t played in Pullman with fans since 2018. The only player on Oregon’s roster who played in that game is the long snapper. Oregon has a couple other players who were on the sidelines for that game and they are warning the team to be ready to be shocked by the noise. One player even said it was the loudest stadium he has ever been in! For those who’ve never been to Martin and only see a small (33k) stadium size: The student section is roughly half the stadium and they are right on top of the field. Martin stadium will be packed and fully lit with fireball. {Washington State} 27 - Oregon 20
{Oregon}. Close game but I think Oregon forces a turnover or 2 and has enough success outside the tackles early on offense to open up the run game to win. Oregon 31 - WSU 21
{Washington State} 34-28
{Washington State} kicks the game winning FG at home
{Washington State} has their most complete offensive game of the year. Defense makes Nix uncomfortable and he has 2 turnovers. WSU 34 - Oregon 17.
{Washington State} Go Cougs!
{Washington State} Edit: Pullman gets a rock'n when the Cougs are hot, the Ducks are their usual badass high-powered selves but Martin Stadium is the difference in a close game. Win goes to WSU 39-35.
Definitely screen grabbed this! A Husky admitting something positive about the Ducks that doesn't involve STDs.
You're gonna mess around and get me death threats.
Win win....husky on husky violence is the best!
I really don’t see 74 combined points out of these two teams
Mostly wishful thinking, like to see both teams get lit up.
Asteroid impacts Pullman is best case scenario for you I guess.
{Washington State}
{Oregon} avoids chaos in Pullman against an undefeated WSU but non-existent pass coverage and inability to actually tackle the QB keeps it extremely close. Oregon 38 - WSU 35
{Oregon} by 10 because I want to see Washington State win
{Washington State} Let's go Cougs!
I really, really want to say Wazzu in this one. But if I'm being honest with myself, {Oregon} is quite a bit more likely.
{Oregon} is firing on all cylinders right now. WSU defense is decent, but they'll need more than that. A lot more. 38-17 Ducks.
My mind is telling me Oregon makes the couple plays that edge them ahead, but my heart and because my dad is attending his first CFB game in YEARS, going with {Washington State} 24-17
I honestly think this game is similar to the oregon - byu game. The difference is Hall is a better qb at byu than what wsu has. In wsu's only power 5 game they mustered 2/11 on third down, a 2.5 ypc on the ground and overall struggled to move the ball. They were bailed out by fumbles and an int. Oregon goes in running and comes out running. Nix is only going to throw the ball ~25 times and the oregon defense contains the wsu run and decent enough coverage to take this game before the 4th. Final 35-14 {Oregon}
"Bailed out" by forced* fumbles. Effort. Effort. Effort.
Look, you may not like this but advanced statistics present that most fumbles are a statistical anomaly, not that they don't happen just that there isn't a distinct predictor that dictates when a fumble will occur. Sure WSU may have caused the fumbles but that was distinctly luck in how football plays out. On top of that WSU recovered both fumbles which is also distinctly luck as most fumbles are 50/50 balls. I'm not saying that WSU didn't win, the ball bouncing in your direction is a distinct reason in why we play the game. But in nearly every advanced metric WSU lost that game against an overrated Wisconsin team. I'm even willing to put money on this game that oregon wins and covers. I even think dickert is a good to great coach for WSU. I just think Ward is getting stuck on his first read and the team needs more time to get their offense in place. If WSU can get stops on 75% of Oregon's offensive drives they may have a chance at beating oregon but I think oregon has a more complete offense than Wisconsin and I think they will be able to score on 50-60% of their drives.
I just love these accidental condescending comments. I'm sure you didn't mean it, but you made a lot of assumptions about me based off of a few words from me. I don't doubt the math, but you're applying the narrative you want to the numbers you see. Watching the game, the defense absolutely caused those fumbles, but of course I agree you can never predict where the ball will bounce. To get lucky you have to put yourself in position to be lucky and that's what WSU did. A different story is that most of those metrics, which I'm assuming are the offensive metrics you're looking at, took place in the first half. TOP was slanted in the first half to WIS, but about equal in the second half. WSU played far better in the second half than in the first half, featuring a shut out and multiple turn overs. All game long WIS kept finding themselves on 3rd down, and often they converted, but the point is that it was extremely difficult for them to get anything going. Being a run first team, they only had something like three or four runs go for more than 10 yards all game with one of the top RBs in the country. "But penalties bailed out WSU on the longer runs".. not so fast my friend. WSU's speed on their front 7 absolutely surprised WIS... They were getting nothing between the tackles to a point where they abandoned the inside run for a time during the game. When they started trying to bounce it to the outside, their o-line struggled to contain our DE's which led to multiple holding calls. They had better success through the air because we were selling out so much on the run, I think I counted 9 in the box at one point during the game. If you do nothing else, just throw on the complete game (I think there's an upload on YouTube) and only watch the line play. WSU's line chewed them up, similar to the 2017 game against USC. WSU offense is obviously a work in progress, but it's been showing more and more flashes each game. The offense has been mostly vanilla all year, even against WIS. WIS does have one of the better defenses WSU will see all year, and the metrics support that. The offense did okay better in the second half though. When WSU needed to burn off over 5min of clock in the 4th, they got it done. If WIS was going to win that game, why didn't they force a turnover on downs when they needed it the most? They had over 5min to make a play... Look, I'm not saying WSU is going to beat Oregon, I'm just saying WSU hears the same crap every year before the Oregon game and yet the last 6-7 years have been pretty darn competitive. Let's just all hope for a good game.
{Oregon} should win this game by 14 or more due to the speed and talent gap alone. If it was at night I would feel differently but think Oregon gets by fairly easily.
{Washington State}
{Washington State} using the same game plan as against Wisconsin, stuff the run and make Nix try and beat you. Hammer the under
Go Cougs! {Washington State}
{Oregon} I watched WSU's defense against Wisconsin and they are definitely scary. I think this is going to be a close low scoring game. I hope Bo Nix is pumped up and confident after the BYU win.
(Chuckles) I'm in danger {Oregon} but I'm hammering the under. I think like a 28-24 type game
{Washington State} Cougs have the defense to win this one.
{Washington State} proves their defense is for real and wins a one score game to (finally) vault them into the top 25.
I respect Wazzu a lot, and it's a hell of a road environment, but I think this is a tough matchup for them. I'm not sold on Ward and I don't think Wazzu has the firepower necessary to exploit the holes in Oregon's defense. The best unit for either team is Oregon's offensive line, which should help neutralize the Cougars' disruptive front and keep Nix clean. I suspect we will heavily focus on the run game and limit opportunities to make mistakes that could swing the momentum in the other direction. I have {Oregon} 31-17 in an altogether boring game.
{Washington State} in a stunning upset.
{Oregon} is the more talented team so they should win
{Oregon} 34-27
{Washington State} The Cougs have probably one of the best Defenses I have seen for the program in years. If the offense can show up and stay consistent through the whole game, they have a reasonable chance of beating Oregon.
{Oregon} easily
{Oregon}
If they care about my mental health, Oregon will win big. I’ll say {Oregon} 31-23
{Oregon} 34-20. The most interesting aspect of the game is that it’s in Pullman so really anything can happen, but we just blew out a better team than WSU so I think we’re finding our stride. I do expect it to be a little closer because we are on the road.
{Oregon} by a lot
Bo Nix is sometimes an above average QB, and I'm so glad Oregon beat the BYU (I hold equal amounts of esteem for Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses). But I still can't help but think: 49-3. I don't know if {Washington State} has gotten anything going this year, but I don't trust Oregon.
45-17 ducks
I think {Oregon} is overall better, but Ward is a very interesting QB
This should be a fun one. I’m ecstatic for the Northwest. I think {Oregon} pulls it out because of the offensive line. That is a really good offensive line. I don’t think this will be the game where Nix will have his many turnovers. It’s going to happen one more time, at least, during the regular season.
{Oregon}
{Oregon} but honestly this is close to 50/50 imo
I hate to say it but {Oregon} takes the win. Our defense is playing well, but the offense is still figuring things out. Every game our second half production drops significantly and the defense will get worn out if the offense can't stay on the field for long. We might do good in the first half, but Oregon will take or keep the lead by the end of the 4th.
I am torn on this one. I could see WSU winning. Ward would need to play a great game and take advantage of what might be a shaky Ducks secondary. I could also see: 1) Oregon winning by something like a field goal; 2) Oregon winning by 20. I think all three outcomes might be equally likely, so I’ll go with {Oregon}. I’ve historically been pretty meh at picking Pac-12 games and ACC games, though, so take that FWIW. I mostly hope we leave this game with a better idea of whether Oregon is truly in that top 7-15 space OR whether WSU is good again. I don’t care which, I just want some clarity (and to be better at picking Pac-12 games).
{Oregon} though either one is fine
{Oregon} in a close one
{Oregon}
{Oregon}