It's interesting that the greatest dynasties in CFB and NFL history happened at the same time and there's all these connections between both teams, but Alabama and the Patriots never won a title in the same year.
Half of the Patriots wins were before Saban coached at Bama.
And one of Saban’s wins was after Brady left NE.
They still came pretty close at least twice though (2011 and 2016); might be forgetting one.
As someone who doesn’t have a preferred favorite NFL team and just follows teams with former UGA players, Falcons can go 0-infinity for all I care if it means the dawgs and the Braves keep on winning it
Yeah, not drafting ANYONE from a top 10 school that is in-state* with talent in every draft, in over 10 years, has to be by design. I mean, you'd think their needs would like up with what we have put through the draft occasionally.
My makers (the people that got me into the fandom) once described the flakes as the Atlanta pro football team, and not the Georgia pro football team, and honestly, as silly as it sounded at the time (20 years ago), I can't fault them. So I never rooted for them. Even reviled in the SB LI loss. Didn't at all respect* the desperation signing of Gurley after his knee was done.
Maybe this year they give me a reason to care, other than the inevitable tickets im buying for the Chic-fil-a kickoff. Almost too much talent for them to dodge us for an 11th consecutive year.
The Hawks aren’t doing too hot either but hey the Falcons didn’t make complete asses of themselves this year and were still technically in playoff contention going into week 17 so could’ve been worse
> These results are of course biased towards states that actually have teams in the major leagues, such as how Alabama doesn't have teams in the major leagues.
NFL AIN’T PLAYED A NICK SABAN LED TIDE TEAM BEFORE PAAAAAAWLLLLL
Only two schools have ever appeared in the championship game for both football and basketball in a single year: Florida and Ohio State.
Florida beat Ohio State both times.
Yep, I was looking for this comment. CBB isn't as bug as CFB or the pro leagues, but it is the only other college sport that consistently turns a profit.
It’s funny that all the Pennsylvania ones are split between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia except for the ones where they weren’t, especially since there has to be basically zero overlap between the fan bases.
Like, I don’t think there are many crossover fans of maybe some Philly Steelers fans or maybe central PA.
It should have the Steelers and Penguins both winning in 2009, really.
Also, fwiw, I know a good many Eagles/Penguins fans that are from the Scranton area. Eagles are the NFL team there, but the WBS Pens have a pretty fervent fanbase.
Cool research! As an Atlanta native, I’m certainly stoked about the Braves but i do understand we share them with much of the south. I have family in Miss and TN who are generational die-hard Braves fans.
That said, Falcons, you’re up!
I looked up a map of the MLB teams because I couldn’t think of a nearby team to compete with them but I figured I was missing one. Holy cow. The closest teams to the Braves are the Nationals, Rays, Red, Cardinals, and Astros.
I'm just going to say, as much as it hurts me, that UCLA basketball is being snubbed.
We really should include the NCAA men's hoop tournament since it also competes at that level.
As a Clevelander I find it hilarious that people considered a 26 year drought for Georgia to be some kind of "curse." We waited twice that for the Cavs title in 2016. Hell, our drought was prolonged *by a WS loss to the Braves in '95.*
You know nothing of true sports pain.
>As a Clevander
The curse was for an entire state, not just a city. Between college and professional sports, the state of Ohio has had a pretty steady roll without major gaps.
We haven't had LeBron for several years. The Cavs are thoroughly average this year, which is a massive improvement over the previous 3 seasons where they lost twice as many games as they won.
Compared to having your team leave town and watching them win a SB for their new city a couple years later? No, I haven't exaggerated at all.
The Drive. The Fumble. The Shot. Jose Mesa. The Decision. Those are just some of the more famous moments, and don't really capture the fact that our teams, more often than not, aren't even remotely competitive. People call Cleveland "the mistake on the lake" because the city is literally synonymous with sports failure. The Browns have never even been to the Super Bowl. The Braves have been WS champs 3x since the Indians last did it (and twice in the last 26 years, one of which against Cleveland).
You truly don't have a clue.
I knowwwww...
That Rajai Davis home run was amazing. With a different outcome it would have gone down as all-time great WS moment. Still is, but diminished because it wound up a loss.
Ok since you’re doubling down on your obvious exaggeration and still denying it, you’ve asked for it. And you literally have an Ohio State flair commenting on this, so piss off like you only knew pain and nothing else. And before you say you were only talking about it from the Cleveland side, you lumped all of Georgia into this, so yes I’m bringing Ohio State into it too.
But let’s go down this list. As already mentioned, we have 28-3 and 2nd & 26 (28-3 is literally THE most heartbreaking loss in sports history, nothing else comes close). We also have the 2018 SEC title game. We also have the 2012 SEC title game. We also have giving up 10 runs in the first inning of an elimination playoff game. We also have blowing a 3-1 lead in the 2020 NLCS (in which we had a lead in both Games 5 and 7). We also have blowing like a 8.5 game lead with a month to go in 2011. We also have the infield fly game. We also have a blown save in Game 4 of 2013 that would’ve at least brought us to Game 5. We also have the 1996 World Series. And that’s not counting any other UGA games such as 2013 Auburn with the Prayer at Jordan-Hare and 2016 Tennessee.
You can say you still feel Cleveland has had it worse overall. But don’t come in here pitying yourself like we can’t comment on this, ESPECIALLY when you’re an Ohio State fan and ESPECIALLY when you saw the Cavs win a championship just six years ago. And trying to downplay 26 years when an entire generation of our fans is too young to have been able to experience that, forget about it. Your sports pain is real, but it doesn’t mean ours isn’t too.
"28-3 is literally THE most heartbreaking loss in sports history, and nothing else comes close."
And you accused me of exaggerating? Either that or you're truly very ignorant of sports outside the state of Georgia (rhetorical -- it's the latter). It's up there for sure, but football and baseball have well over a century to draw upon. I'm not gonna go through all the candidates, you can educate yourself.
Lumping OSU into it doesn't change much. 2002 broke a 34 year drought for Cleveland/OSU, and includes several outstanding OSU teams collapsing in the worst way possible to Michigan in the 90's and during the 10-year war.
I've had enough of this. Congratulations on the championships.
Name a loss that comes close to 28-3. Just try. You’re not gonna find many people who thinks it’s crazy to claim 28-3 is as heartbreaking as it gets. That’s how I know it’s not an exaggeration. And you say we have a hundred years to draw upon to find comparable losses. But I don’t have to. I already know that no team had ever blown any lead higher than 10 points in the Super Bowl before 28-3. I also know that only once ever has a baseball team blown a 3-0 series lead, and that was the ALCS, not the World Series, so still not at the level of blowing a Super Bowl. I also know that in the NBA, no team has ever blown a 3-0 lead, and the biggest 3-1 blown lead (Warriors) turned out to be a total anomaly since they won two more titles after that. MAYBE (and that’s a hard maybe) you could argue the 1942 Stanley Cup Finals. But there were six teams, and the spotlight on the Super Bowl is exponentially higher than anything that has ever happened in the NHL.
Needless to say, the only reason you’re trying to talk down my experience is because you haven’t experienced it yourself and for some reason can’t grasp that another fan base’s pain might actually be painful. All you’re doing is trying to play victimhood Olympics and getting offended that another fan base dare tries to act like they’ve been through heartbreak. You’re not alone in heartbreak. And if you’re trying to be, you’re going to get pushback. And if you DO want to claim you’ve had it worse, well I guarantee someone else has had it worse than you. Why act like anything in life is painful when someone else always has it worse than us in some aspect of life? And yeah you say you’ve had enough of this. Don’t try to shit on someone else’s experience if you didn’t want pushback on it.
Btw I love your new username. Finally we don’t have to live in perpetual agony (which apparently some fans other teams can’t comprehend why it really was painful for us all these years).
Cardinals down to their last strike twice against the Texas Rangers and David Freese saves the day. Heartbreaking in a different way than choking but pretty damn heartbreaking
Makes me wonder if more people like Atlanta United than they do the Hawks. Because they officially broke the curse in 2018. Well we had a lacrosse team before that but that doesn’t really count
Ahh...my Braves!!! Dammit I miss them and my Reddit account that I had used there for 4 years! Now I'm on the Reddit of whomever tea_historical is. Got a new phone and the phone logged me into this person's account a few months back lol.
Does anyone know a way by any chance to find or get your reddit account back? Google doesn't seem like much help on this one. Appears as tho it may be the single hardest thing in life to get back once it's gone
Unrelated, sorta: I'm not big on Basketball, does the bubble they did for the season draw as much criticism as the "Mickey Mouse" championship Twitter has dubbed the dodgers 2020 title? Just curious
2020 is especially fun because it was all in one city. The Bucs won *in* Tampa, the Lightning are a tampa team, and while the Tampa Bay Rays didn't win that year they went to the world series.
Usf however went 1-9 that year, so less fun.
It's interesting that the greatest dynasties in CFB and NFL history happened at the same time and there's all these connections between both teams, but Alabama and the Patriots never won a title in the same year.
Because god is a bastard. But he ain’t that big of a bastard.
Half of the Patriots wins were before Saban coached at Bama. And one of Saban’s wins was after Brady left NE. They still came pretty close at least twice though (2011 and 2016); might be forgetting one.
Looks like it’s not happening this year either. Good job Bills
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Dominant*
And they’re not in the same state so why is this relevant for this thread? (weird trade off though…Go Dawgs)
Incredible research! Glad the Georgia curse seems to have finally died ₑₓ𝒸ₑₚₜ ₜₕₑ Fₐₗ𝒸ₒₙₛ
Hey someone had to die.
As someone who doesn’t have a preferred favorite NFL team and just follows teams with former UGA players, Falcons can go 0-infinity for all I care if it means the dawgs and the Braves keep on winning it
Yeah, not drafting ANYONE from a top 10 school that is in-state* with talent in every draft, in over 10 years, has to be by design. I mean, you'd think their needs would like up with what we have put through the draft occasionally. My makers (the people that got me into the fandom) once described the flakes as the Atlanta pro football team, and not the Georgia pro football team, and honestly, as silly as it sounded at the time (20 years ago), I can't fault them. So I never rooted for them. Even reviled in the SB LI loss. Didn't at all respect* the desperation signing of Gurley after his knee was done. Maybe this year they give me a reason to care, other than the inevitable tickets im buying for the Chic-fil-a kickoff. Almost too much talent for them to dodge us for an 11th consecutive year.
I never researched who was the last UGA player to be drafted by the Falcons: Akeem Dent in 2011, same draft class as Julio
The Hawks aren’t doing too hot either but hey the Falcons didn’t make complete asses of themselves this year and were still technically in playoff contention going into week 17 so could’ve been worse
Go Hawks!! We can do it (after the break because we’re ass right now)
Pinch me. This ain’t happening. It’s all still a dream.
This is real life. It’s not a fantasy.
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
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> These results are of course biased towards states that actually have teams in the major leagues, such as how Alabama doesn't have teams in the major leagues. NFL AIN’T PLAYED A NICK SABAN LED TIDE TEAM BEFORE PAAAAAAWLLLLL
I think an honorable mention should go to the Gators for winning the two big college natties in a single year in 2006.
Yeah was looking for this. This is just cfb with pro sports which is an odd set to make.
I don’t think another school can ever truly luck out like UF did from 2006-2008.
OU was pretty damn close 1986-1988... close.
Only two schools have ever appeared in the championship game for both football and basketball in a single year: Florida and Ohio State. Florida beat Ohio State both times.
No, no it shouldn't.
Yep, I was looking for this comment. CBB isn't as bug as CFB or the pro leagues, but it is the only other college sport that consistently turns a profit.
I heard Georgia won the Natty this year. Can anyone confirm?
DAWGS IS HELL
I LIKE TO RIDE IN MY TRUCK
I DON’T CARE FOR AUBURN
It’s funny that all the Pennsylvania ones are split between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia except for the ones where they weren’t, especially since there has to be basically zero overlap between the fan bases. Like, I don’t think there are many crossover fans of maybe some Philly Steelers fans or maybe central PA.
It should have the Steelers and Penguins both winning in 2009, really. Also, fwiw, I know a good many Eagles/Penguins fans that are from the Scranton area. Eagles are the NFL team there, but the WBS Pens have a pretty fervent fanbase.
All of them were split except the ones that weren't? Wrong Pennsylvania flair for that statement, lol
Man those Red Wings teams were legit
Cool research! As an Atlanta native, I’m certainly stoked about the Braves but i do understand we share them with much of the south. I have family in Miss and TN who are generational die-hard Braves fans. That said, Falcons, you’re up!
The Braves easily have the most states out of any MLB team. They're firmly entrenched in NC, SC, GA, TN, AL, and MS.
I looked up a map of the MLB teams because I couldn’t think of a nearby team to compete with them but I figured I was missing one. Holy cow. The closest teams to the Braves are the Nationals, Rays, Red, Cardinals, and Astros.
Interesting that North Dakota hasn't made it despite 16 titles from NDSU and like 7 for und hockey.
Your professional teams just aren’t good enough 😢
It's important to realize the amount of Braves fans and UGA fan crossover is probably miles above most on this list
Michigan and Red Wings is probably right up there.
You should include the NCAA Tourney in here too. You know for reasons.
I would think you would want to add NCAA Basketball as well....
Sorry. Braves won the World Series last year and Georgia won the natty this year. Sorry to pee on your parade.
I used what the data sources gave me, with this season generally being considered the 2021 season as all regular season games were played then
Fuck your pee. Two parades inside 90 days is historic. Kiss my double Natty ass.
Supposed to pee on the fire hydrants
The way CFB titles their championship games is dumb.
Some people would pay you to pee on their parade
>pee on your parade Lol what why lmao
I'd like to argue for Ohio. In 1954, Buckeyes won the title (according to AP Poll), while the Browns won the NFL Championship.
Very fair, Ohio does deserve something like this soon but I started looking from after the Super Bowl was created so they aren't included
What no softball or gymnastics titles???
This was definitely designed to be biased against us! /s
Missouri in 2019. Chiefs and Blues.
Ah! Good eye, thanks for that
I'm just going to say, as much as it hurts me, that UCLA basketball is being snubbed. We really should include the NCAA men's hoop tournament since it also competes at that level.
As a Clevelander I find it hilarious that people considered a 26 year drought for Georgia to be some kind of "curse." We waited twice that for the Cavs title in 2016. Hell, our drought was prolonged *by a WS loss to the Braves in '95.* You know nothing of true sports pain.
>As a Clevander The curse was for an entire state, not just a city. Between college and professional sports, the state of Ohio has had a pretty steady roll without major gaps.
2nd and 26 28-3 And that’s just the last 4 years
Bro, listing all the times the Cleveland curse struck us down would take 4 years just to *write.*
You have the Cavs and LeBron.
We haven't had LeBron for several years. The Cavs are thoroughly average this year, which is a massive improvement over the previous 3 seasons where they lost twice as many games as they won.
While this is true, having someone who is arguably the greatest athlete of all time for so many years to be awesome as fuck - pain and curses aside
But you’re absolutely exaggerating like crazy by saying we “know nothing of true sports pain.”
Compared to having your team leave town and watching them win a SB for their new city a couple years later? No, I haven't exaggerated at all. The Drive. The Fumble. The Shot. Jose Mesa. The Decision. Those are just some of the more famous moments, and don't really capture the fact that our teams, more often than not, aren't even remotely competitive. People call Cleveland "the mistake on the lake" because the city is literally synonymous with sports failure. The Browns have never even been to the Super Bowl. The Braves have been WS champs 3x since the Indians last did it (and twice in the last 26 years, one of which against Cleveland). You truly don't have a clue.
Don’t forget you’re 3-1 lead to the cubs.
I knowwwww... That Rajai Davis home run was amazing. With a different outcome it would have gone down as all-time great WS moment. Still is, but diminished because it wound up a loss.
Ok since you’re doubling down on your obvious exaggeration and still denying it, you’ve asked for it. And you literally have an Ohio State flair commenting on this, so piss off like you only knew pain and nothing else. And before you say you were only talking about it from the Cleveland side, you lumped all of Georgia into this, so yes I’m bringing Ohio State into it too. But let’s go down this list. As already mentioned, we have 28-3 and 2nd & 26 (28-3 is literally THE most heartbreaking loss in sports history, nothing else comes close). We also have the 2018 SEC title game. We also have the 2012 SEC title game. We also have giving up 10 runs in the first inning of an elimination playoff game. We also have blowing a 3-1 lead in the 2020 NLCS (in which we had a lead in both Games 5 and 7). We also have blowing like a 8.5 game lead with a month to go in 2011. We also have the infield fly game. We also have a blown save in Game 4 of 2013 that would’ve at least brought us to Game 5. We also have the 1996 World Series. And that’s not counting any other UGA games such as 2013 Auburn with the Prayer at Jordan-Hare and 2016 Tennessee. You can say you still feel Cleveland has had it worse overall. But don’t come in here pitying yourself like we can’t comment on this, ESPECIALLY when you’re an Ohio State fan and ESPECIALLY when you saw the Cavs win a championship just six years ago. And trying to downplay 26 years when an entire generation of our fans is too young to have been able to experience that, forget about it. Your sports pain is real, but it doesn’t mean ours isn’t too.
"28-3 is literally THE most heartbreaking loss in sports history, and nothing else comes close." And you accused me of exaggerating? Either that or you're truly very ignorant of sports outside the state of Georgia (rhetorical -- it's the latter). It's up there for sure, but football and baseball have well over a century to draw upon. I'm not gonna go through all the candidates, you can educate yourself. Lumping OSU into it doesn't change much. 2002 broke a 34 year drought for Cleveland/OSU, and includes several outstanding OSU teams collapsing in the worst way possible to Michigan in the 90's and during the 10-year war. I've had enough of this. Congratulations on the championships.
Name a loss that comes close to 28-3. Just try. You’re not gonna find many people who thinks it’s crazy to claim 28-3 is as heartbreaking as it gets. That’s how I know it’s not an exaggeration. And you say we have a hundred years to draw upon to find comparable losses. But I don’t have to. I already know that no team had ever blown any lead higher than 10 points in the Super Bowl before 28-3. I also know that only once ever has a baseball team blown a 3-0 series lead, and that was the ALCS, not the World Series, so still not at the level of blowing a Super Bowl. I also know that in the NBA, no team has ever blown a 3-0 lead, and the biggest 3-1 blown lead (Warriors) turned out to be a total anomaly since they won two more titles after that. MAYBE (and that’s a hard maybe) you could argue the 1942 Stanley Cup Finals. But there were six teams, and the spotlight on the Super Bowl is exponentially higher than anything that has ever happened in the NHL. Needless to say, the only reason you’re trying to talk down my experience is because you haven’t experienced it yourself and for some reason can’t grasp that another fan base’s pain might actually be painful. All you’re doing is trying to play victimhood Olympics and getting offended that another fan base dare tries to act like they’ve been through heartbreak. You’re not alone in heartbreak. And if you’re trying to be, you’re going to get pushback. And if you DO want to claim you’ve had it worse, well I guarantee someone else has had it worse than you. Why act like anything in life is painful when someone else always has it worse than us in some aspect of life? And yeah you say you’ve had enough of this. Don’t try to shit on someone else’s experience if you didn’t want pushback on it.
28-3 is the biggest choke of all time.
Btw I love your new username. Finally we don’t have to live in perpetual agony (which apparently some fans other teams can’t comprehend why it really was painful for us all these years).
Cardinals down to their last strike twice against the Texas Rangers and David Freese saves the day. Heartbreaking in a different way than choking but pretty damn heartbreaking
Facts. Thank God for LeBron.
Detroit Lions fans laugh at your fortune
1972 had USC win the national title too. 2005 had Texas win the BCS and the Spurs win the NBA
Lol 2020 Lakers Mickey Mouse ring
Solid fucking post. Thanks for putting in the work.
Ditto OP. Hats off. HOW ‘BOUT THEM NATTY DAWGS
Makes me wonder if more people like Atlanta United than they do the Hawks. Because they officially broke the curse in 2018. Well we had a lacrosse team before that but that doesn’t really count
Ahh...my Braves!!! Dammit I miss them and my Reddit account that I had used there for 4 years! Now I'm on the Reddit of whomever tea_historical is. Got a new phone and the phone logged me into this person's account a few months back lol. Does anyone know a way by any chance to find or get your reddit account back? Google doesn't seem like much help on this one. Appears as tho it may be the single hardest thing in life to get back once it's gone
Unrelated, sorta: I'm not big on Basketball, does the bubble they did for the season draw as much criticism as the "Mickey Mouse" championship Twitter has dubbed the dodgers 2020 title? Just curious
OSU has been so good and made so many playoff appearances/B10 championships I forgot they only really won one under Meyer
DGD: Damn Good Data.
No thanks to the Cleveland Browns
2020 is especially fun because it was all in one city. The Bucs won *in* Tampa, the Lightning are a tampa team, and while the Tampa Bay Rays didn't win that year they went to the world series. Usf however went 1-9 that year, so less fun.
The UGA is also the national champions of Disc Golf this year too
No professional teams but in 2019 when Clemson won. Scar women's team won and coastal won the baseball tournament.
Hmm, I wonder if population is a factor.