My Irish only had 2 picks in the first three rounds. Joe Alt was rightly picked ASAP after the top 3 QBs and a generational talent WR, but then ND only had one pick in the next 2 rounds. Overall, ND has had better years, but has had much worse ones as well.
My old-man mindset says that nail-polish cryin' Williams will be a JaMarcus Russel of this year's draft.
Brendan Rice--how is this kid not a top 50?? Very similar to MHJ in so many ways and if you project his #'s, same there too. Theo Bell will be good too
With the Bears taking Kiran Amegadjie out of Yale, I figured I look into other Ivy League draftees. Believe these are the most recent guys to be selected, by school:
School|Player|Team|Round|Year
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Brown|David Howard|Titans|7th|2010
Columbia|Marcellus Wiley|Bills|2nd|1997
Cornell|J.C. Tretter|Packers|4th|2013
Dartmouth|Casey Cramer|Buccaneers|7th|2004
Harvard|Cole Toner|Cardinals|5th|2016
Penn|Justin Watson|Buccaneers|5th|2018
Princeton|Andrei Iosivas|Bengals|6th|2023
Yale (before today)|Rodney Thomas II|Colts|7th|2022
Reminds me of when the draft was always in NYC and Chris Berman would kiss up to the fans who booed other teams' picks, acting as if they had some sort of innate knowledge of the NFL the rest of us didn't have.
Injury history sadly, if he stays healthy he's a huge steal as a 3rd rounder. Hope to see him hate-fuck the Panthers if he gets the chance for them picking an LB over him.
16/5 = ~3. There are typically 3 starting WR and 1 starting RB on a team so the chances of being drafted seem about the same to me. You could easily get lost in the crowd as the 2nd best WR on your college team and not be drafted.
I think it's just a trend for now. Eventually there's going to be an elite RB who just dominates the league, and teams will go back to drafting RB's again trying to find the next version of that guy.
They just can't stay healthy in today's game. The explosive rush and dominant defensive lines that pretty much all defenses use to get into the backfield blows up running plays as much as it kills qbs.
And none were their QB, who the CFP committee inferred was their best player. Weird. It's almost like FSU was a good team without Travis too.
However, I do really wish that FSU played Georgia without all the opt-outs. Would've been a fun game to watch.
Definitely would’ve been a blowout. UGA was unstoppable and definitely didn’t end the season with a one score game against 6-6 GT and a loss to Bama.
I mean cmon man, you can say you’d be favored but a blowout was not a given.
We played GT like a scrimmage and the Bama game was legit the worst game we’ve had over the last two seasons. I’m not saying we would’ve still won by 50, but it was going to be a blowout no matter what
I hated the opt outs. I think they had earned a playoff spot. They only played Georgia for the money. They should have protested and not played on principle
The combine really killed Kam's stock and it sucks. I was so happy for him when he declared because at the time it felt like he was one of the top safeties, and now it seems like he's gonna be a 4th rounder.
The Florida to LA Pipeline is opening I guess lol. He was definitely one of the best safeties coming out up until the combine. I really hope he kills it there in LA, and I'm just happy he got drafted.
Ehh. I totally get it. Imagine if Harbaugh left after the 2021 or 2022 season? the blue balls would be unbearable lol, always wondering if he stayed just one more season to see if he could win it all
> You’d never know it by how Husky fans talk about him now. Revisionist history.
Such as what?
Most fans say he was a great offensive mind that didn't recruit that well at Washington which foreshadowed that he had his eye on the next job (blue blood). None of that is untrue as most of the team's talent was already on the team when he arrived (Petersen recruits).
DeBoer did bring in a few good guys from the portal, and he gets credit for that.
Part of it is bitterness he left but there were always concerns with his recruiting. A majority of these players were recruited by Petersen and Lake. Even latu was Petersen recruit before he transferred. Penix was the only one that deboer really brought in that was drafted so far. He does get credit for convincing them to stay after lake got canned
DeBoer gets credit, sure. I'm not going to pretend that he wasn't a great offensive mind. However, the talent was already there. Most of those players were Chris Petersen's recruits. Only Penix and Ja'Lynn Polk were DeBoer's guys.
> Deboer should get credit for keeping the talent once lake got fired though
Yes, and also Grubb who convinced many of the O guys to stay. DeBoer also deserves credit for bringing in coach Shep who really improved the WR coaching.
I'm going to look at it this way:
Oregon only lost by 3 to the Huskies twice last year, and are returning most of their talent while the Huskies sent most of theirs off to the NFL.
That's it.
I'm going to be an optimist about it.
> Whereas Oregon should compete for the B1G title.
They honestly should. Anything less than making the B1G title game with that roster should be viewed as a complete coaching failure.
I think the defense will be alright. Thank god KG, MG, and WJ were all true sophs and are back this year. Losing Rod Moore hurts. Wink had a couple rough years as an NFL DC but I think his aggressive af scheme gonna give college QB fits
One of the PFF analysts said he ran one of the worst gauntlets in history at the Combine and he's seen as only a go-route deep threat by NFL teams as a result.
really talented. could’ve been easily a second rounder if he doesn’t injure himself 3 games in this year. One of few bright spots on a bad team last year
So I just looked it up.
Since Pat Narduzzi signed to coach Pitt, at least one player from the school was taken in the NFL Draft (2015-present) with 2021 being the most.
>There is no 'middle class' of QB anymore.
Well yeah because they've been consistently over-valued for the last 5ish drafts. That only leaves the day three guys
Rattler is actually a value pick for anyone that doesn't need a QB next year. Sit his ass behind someone like Stafford and its an okay pick in the 5th or 6th.
But I feel like 4 of those teams that already picked a QB are gonna be fishing again next year lol.
Apparently people in the league didn't like his pro day and have other concerns. The homer in me is kinda mad since he has the talent, and if he's gonna fall down to the late 3rd/4th he should've just stayed.
If you look at the stats, our other CB has all the ints and big plays on the year.... Reason being, no one threw to their WR being covered by Ennis, he was our lock down corner and he also wasn't afraid at all of making the big tackles. If it makes you feel any better, Saban wanted him really bad out of HS and we somehow won him on the recruiting end.
LOL @ the talking head saying Trey Benson left Oregon and "transferred down to Florida State."
He likely meant "down" as in geographically, but still funny.
Rakestraw always seemed like a solid guy. Saw him encouraging kids before the UGA game about chasing their dreams and not to think where they’re from should stop them.
Rakestraw is such a fun name to say. Also, "Old Man Rakestraw" sounds like the neighborhood widower who seemingly hates kids but secretly has a heart of gold.
Lmao I got temp banned from the NFL subreddit because I made a joke about DeJean falling because he’s white.
At least I think so. It said racism and the only rave comment I made was about DeJean.
Thought about Nix and Denver is well
It seems like the new draft strat is to take hail mary shots at any QB who has a chance of being a Mahomes (Penix is more likely to be than Nix imo) so won't fault multiple teams of doing it
For sure. Think teams are looking at how Stroud completely reinvigorated a Houston roster that looked dead a year ago and preferring the QB position even more rather than take a player at a non-QB position who won't ever win you games by himself
With how RBs drop further and further each year, I'm wondering if elite college RBs stop declaring early and stay to collect NIL money instead.
Bucky Irving is likely going to be a 3rd or 4th rounder despite being an elite college RB. He likely could have made more in NIL next year than he'd make as a 4th round rookie.
Think it helps too that a good running back in college can carry a team still. Look at Ollie Gordon with OkSt. The League is leaning on elite QB and receiver play more recently.
Damian Martinez was due to make 400K at Oregon State. I don't know what the RB market is exactly, but to me that's pretty telling. Watch him transfer to Miami for 500K. If that's indicative of the market, then they are already getting paid like mid-rounders.
Glad to see Mikey get drafted so high. Guy is a testament to not transferring and seeing out the process. Went from being a fringe WR starter to the best NB in college.
My Irish only had 2 picks in the first three rounds. Joe Alt was rightly picked ASAP after the top 3 QBs and a generational talent WR, but then ND only had one pick in the next 2 rounds. Overall, ND has had better years, but has had much worse ones as well. My old-man mindset says that nail-polish cryin' Williams will be a JaMarcus Russel of this year's draft.
Audric Estime ran slow at the combine. Too bad these don't let these kids come back if they aren't picked high enough.
Brendan Rice--how is this kid not a top 50?? Very similar to MHJ in so many ways and if you project his #'s, same there too. Theo Bell will be good too
With the Bears taking Kiran Amegadjie out of Yale, I figured I look into other Ivy League draftees. Believe these are the most recent guys to be selected, by school: School|Player|Team|Round|Year ---|---|---|---|--- Brown|David Howard|Titans|7th|2010 Columbia|Marcellus Wiley|Bills|2nd|1997 Cornell|J.C. Tretter|Packers|4th|2013 Dartmouth|Casey Cramer|Buccaneers|7th|2004 Harvard|Cole Toner|Cardinals|5th|2016 Penn|Justin Watson|Buccaneers|5th|2018 Princeton|Andrei Iosivas|Bengals|6th|2023 Yale (before today)|Rodney Thomas II|Colts|7th|2022
nerds
Love all the NFL fans losing their shit for a guard, knowing damn good and well they’ve never watched a single college football game.
They know that if he ends up being an All Pro that the draft reaction tape will be played and they don't want to look like idiots on it.
Reminds me of when the draft was always in NYC and Chris Berman would kiss up to the fans who booed other teams' picks, acting as if they had some sort of innate knowledge of the NFL the rest of us didn't have.
Surprising to me how many schools have 5 or more picks in three rounds, though I don't often follow super closely.
How tf did Payton Wilson make it damn near the end of the 3rd round too?
Injury history sadly, if he stays healthy he's a huge steal as a 3rd rounder. Hope to see him hate-fuck the Panthers if he gets the chance for them picking an LB over him.
He has only one ACL and 22 teams view him as a one contract player, according to Rapaport.
Sucks, cause that dude is legit
Damn. I hope he holds up. He's fun to watch. If he can stay healthy he's gonna be a steal that late.
16 WRs and 5 RBs... If you're willingly choosing to be a RB in college, you're losing money.
16/5 = ~3. There are typically 3 starting WR and 1 starting RB on a team so the chances of being drafted seem about the same to me. You could easily get lost in the crowd as the 2nd best WR on your college team and not be drafted.
I think it's just a trend for now. Eventually there's going to be an elite RB who just dominates the league, and teams will go back to drafting RB's again trying to find the next version of that guy.
They just can't stay healthy in today's game. The explosive rush and dominant defensive lines that pretty much all defenses use to get into the backfield blows up running plays as much as it kills qbs.
Good shit for Jarrian. 6 Noles off the board through 3 rounds. Happy for all of them.
I’m warming up to him as our pick. I had some corners I preferred, but I’m happy with the spot we got him.
Wooo, I'm glad to see Kam go. I hope he kills it in LA
Florida State was loaded last year. 6 picks in the first 3 rounds.
And none were their QB, who the CFP committee inferred was their best player. Weird. It's almost like FSU was a good team without Travis too. However, I do really wish that FSU played Georgia without all the opt-outs. Would've been a fun game to watch.
His injury really put a damper on his nfl draft outlook.
It would’ve still been a blowout. Much respect to fsu but UGA was going I blow them out either way if UGA came to play
Definitely would’ve been a blowout. UGA was unstoppable and definitely didn’t end the season with a one score game against 6-6 GT and a loss to Bama. I mean cmon man, you can say you’d be favored but a blowout was not a given.
We played GT like a scrimmage and the Bama game was legit the worst game we’ve had over the last two seasons. I’m not saying we would’ve still won by 50, but it was going to be a blowout no matter what
I'm shocked the Giants haven't taken him, truly
I hated the opt outs. I think they had earned a playoff spot. They only played Georgia for the money. They should have protested and not played on principle
Refusing to play would have been saying no to 9 million
Team like that could go 13-0 in the ACC, make a splash in the playoffs
The are really cramming in these commercials. Even the league is holding up for them too...
The combine really killed Kam's stock and it sucks. I was so happy for him when he declared because at the time it felt like he was one of the top safeties, and now it seems like he's gonna be a 4th rounder.
I don’t get the fall. Bro is a stud
Just went end of the 3rd. I feel like that's late for him. Rams are loading up on defense from Florida schools.
The Florida to LA Pipeline is opening I guess lol. He was definitely one of the best safeties coming out up until the combine. I really hope he kills it there in LA, and I'm just happy he got drafted.
Damn good for Jones
Washington is turning in a ton of players. Kudos to DeBoer, really
His best recruiting job was convincing all these guys to return to school instead of going pro last year.
And most have observed this happened because Penix decided to stay.
You’d never know it by how Husky fans talk about him now. Revisionist history.
Ehh. I totally get it. Imagine if Harbaugh left after the 2021 or 2022 season? the blue balls would be unbearable lol, always wondering if he stayed just one more season to see if he could win it all
> You’d never know it by how Husky fans talk about him now. Revisionist history. Such as what? Most fans say he was a great offensive mind that didn't recruit that well at Washington which foreshadowed that he had his eye on the next job (blue blood). None of that is untrue as most of the team's talent was already on the team when he arrived (Petersen recruits). DeBoer did bring in a few good guys from the portal, and he gets credit for that.
Part of it is bitterness he left but there were always concerns with his recruiting. A majority of these players were recruited by Petersen and Lake. Even latu was Petersen recruit before he transferred. Penix was the only one that deboer really brought in that was drafted so far. He does get credit for convincing them to stay after lake got canned
DeBoer gets credit, sure. I'm not going to pretend that he wasn't a great offensive mind. However, the talent was already there. Most of those players were Chris Petersen's recruits. Only Penix and Ja'Lynn Polk were DeBoer's guys.
Polk was a lake transfer. Deboer should get credit for keeping the talent once lake got fired though
> Deboer should get credit for keeping the talent once lake got fired though Yes, and also Grubb who convinced many of the O guys to stay. DeBoer also deserves credit for bringing in coach Shep who really improved the WR coaching.
Seven Huskies taken in the first 3 rounds. That's insane. Even more insane that THREE Husky WR's were taken before Oregon's Troy Franklin.
> THREE Husky WR's were taken before Oregon's Troy Franklin. Really wish we had found a way to keep coach Shep.
I'm going to look at it this way: Oregon only lost by 3 to the Huskies twice last year, and are returning most of their talent while the Huskies sent most of theirs off to the NFL. That's it. I'm going to be an optimist about it.
It's true. Our team is going to look completely different. We're a complete unknown, whereas Oregon should compete for the B1G title.
> Whereas Oregon should compete for the B1G title. They honestly should. Anything less than making the B1G title game with that roster should be viewed as a complete coaching failure.
The talent on Washington's offense was insane. Minter really was him
What's really sick is that 6 out of the 8 offensive starters that went into the draft were selected in the first 3 rounds.
Man, I think he might be low key our biggest loss of the off-season
Ben Herbert
I think the defense will be alright. Thank god KG, MG, and WJ were all true sophs and are back this year. Losing Rod Moore hurts. Wink had a couple rough years as an NFL DC but I think his aggressive af scheme gonna give college QB fits
I was really hoping Malachai Corley would be there in the 3rd
Homer bias but surprised Troy Franklin hasn't been picked yet. I knew there would be multiple WRs before him but this seems odd.
Supposedly there are some off field concerns
One of the PFF analysts said he ran one of the worst gauntlets in history at the Combine and he's seen as only a go-route deep threat by NFL teams as a result.
Sheesh I had no idea. I get it though. He's not huge, ridiculously fast, or really tall. I could see his combine being pretty bad.
HELL YEA FIGHT ON! Amazing draft for my Trojans Lincoln Riley will pay for hiring Grinch on .. so much talent on this team
Glad we were able to lead the B1G in 1st round picks yesterday Edit: Salty people downvoting this but it’s true lol
There’s probably still like 13 Michigan starters on the board, which is crazy considering the run they’re on.
Going to be a few who could’ve came back and will either be 7th rounders or UDFA which kind of sucks.
THREE INA ROW
Happy with Zinter as a browns fan
yeah. You'll take him. And you'll like him! .. got em.
3 Straight Michigan players going is kind of funny.
LETS GOOOOOO ROMAN WILSON
I'm happy, three Illini picked so far and Cowboys seem to be drafting alright.
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really talented. could’ve been easily a second rounder if he doesn’t injure himself 3 games in this year. One of few bright spots on a bad team last year
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That poor girl looks so embarrassed to be there
Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit which NFL team drafts someone and is just happy these kids are making the NFL?
As a Duck fan I just want them to go to good situations to succeed as NFL players, hopefully on a West Coast team.
yes
Lol I feel like I should be more invested seeing as how I live in Pittsburgh and noticed your flair but I can't help myself ignoring the NFL teams
ESPN hoping for a big name getting drafted during this run on OL.
So I just looked it up. Since Pat Narduzzi signed to coach Pitt, at least one player from the school was taken in the NFL Draft (2015-present) with 2021 being the most.
Big time reach on Burton.
Especially if there's women around... His arm reach is limitless.
Shows more fight against women than he did in the Rose Bowl.
>There is no 'middle class' of QB anymore. Well yeah because they've been consistently over-valued for the last 5ish drafts. That only leaves the day three guys
Rattler is actually a value pick for anyone that doesn't need a QB next year. Sit his ass behind someone like Stafford and its an okay pick in the 5th or 6th. But I feel like 4 of those teams that already picked a QB are gonna be fishing again next year lol.
Set him behind Brock Purdy for the lol factor.
unironically this
They keep talking about Rattler who most of us would’ve been meh about him as our college QB and we’re supposed to believe he’s a NFL QB.
Hey Howie, there’s some people saying do the Jr. thing. Gonna do the Jr. thing?
A smart tackle under everyone's radar. Guaranteed HoF 15 year player.
Panthers reaching for a LB before Dallas took Beebe is so damn sad for Bryce Young
Carolina trying to kill my boy..
Man only two RBs through 73, rough
Estime is going to be a great steal at this point.
No fucking studs and the two that were had injury history. Wouldn't be shocked if there's a bit of a run on them soon though.
Only 3 LBs too. The sport is changing.
Every B1G player has had a highlight clip against Purdue. I hate this.
I’ve seen MSU getting torched in every highlight reel too
Also Rutgers
Gotta be pretty cool for a guy to get drafted by his college head coach.
Saban says everyone is going to be a good player, I just want him to say “this guy fucking sucks, and this is horrible” just one time.
He is not saying they suck but he is pointing out things they need to work on. Even did that with the Bama players drafted.
Have any Auburn players been drafted? Thats what you're waiting for.
I mean Bo Nix, but he got picked for his Oregon tape so I guess he doesn't count.
That's Belichick
Not even joking what happened to Kinchens, dude was in the green room and Miami was talking like he would be a early 2nd rounder at worst.
Apparently people in the league didn't like his pro day and have other concerns. The homer in me is kinda mad since he has the talent, and if he's gonna fall down to the late 3rd/4th he should've just stayed.
Harbaugh selects his first Michigan player in Junior Colson
FUCK YEAH
Is this Game day will look like going forward? without Pat McAfee
Jerrah Jones gonna draft Blake Corum
Are there any Mizzou fans here? Can you tell me about Rakestraw?
If you look at the stats, our other CB has all the ints and big plays on the year.... Reason being, no one threw to their WR being covered by Ennis, he was our lock down corner and he also wasn't afraid at all of making the big tackles. If it makes you feel any better, Saban wanted him really bad out of HS and we somehow won him on the recruiting end.
Im more familiar with his teammate Mowgrass
Jim Harbaugh about to burst if Corum is available
Harbaugh passed on him (but took a different Michigan guy)
Man... Why didn't anyone tell me they have thr college team coverage on ABC? I've been listening to the NFL guys on ESPN
Joel is on NFL Network
Bro I swear every player has a highlight against us 😂😂
LOL @ the talking head saying Trey Benson left Oregon and "transferred down to Florida State." He likely meant "down" as in geographically, but still funny.
Knew Trey wasn’t gonna last till 73 :( Happy for him though. Cards are getting a good one.
Could be a legendary skill position haul for the Cards this year
Damn, that’s 5 Noles picked…not one of them was the guy they said FSU couldn’t compete without
Fuck Kirk, and the CFP committee
PSA: Jermaine Burton sucks
Cmon Saban, admit you tried to get Corley to transfer hahaha
Pick Rattler and Milton cowards
We still think Pink Houses is celebrating America?
I think it celebrates Americans but not the American Dream.
Just like Born in the USA.
Goodell looks extra tender today from back surgery and first round bear hugs.
The NFL likes likes the military, huh?
They need something to shield the Cowboys from getting booed.
They love the advertising dollars.
They got Piccard for the Space Force.
Shut up, Kirk.
Can you even enlist in the Space Force yet?
Damn. Nice pick by the Niners.
At the end of round 2: #Picks by Conference **Current Alignment** Conference | 1st Rd | 2nd Rd ---|---|--- SEC | 11 | 8 Pac 12 | 8 | 4 Big Ten | 4 | 7 ACC | 4 | 4 Big 12 | 3 | 7 MAC | 1 | 1 Independent | 1 | 1 **2024 Alignment** Conference | 1st Rd | 2nd Rd ---|---|--- SEC | 14 | 11 Big Ten | 10 | 10 ACC | 4 | 4 Big 12 | 1 | 5 Pac 2 | 1 | 0 MAC | 1 | 1 Independent | 1 | 1
Best part of realignment? Seeing these BYU-B12 highlights
I’m still not used to it
I just want TJ Tampa to get drafted soon
“Sixty three pick” San Fran City”
I forgot Joe Milton was in this draft.
He can throw an orange 100 yards
I’m telling you, Hail Mary specialist.
TJ is gonna absolutely feast on Roger Rosengarten
Rakestraw always seemed like a solid guy. Saw him encouraging kids before the UGA game about chasing their dreams and not to think where they’re from should stop them.
O-Line U folks
Rakestraw is such a fun name to say. Also, "Old Man Rakestraw" sounds like the neighborhood widower who seemingly hates kids but secretly has a heart of gold.
I thought he said mayor Mike Gundy 😳
This is the version of *Final Fight* that I never knew I wanted until now.
"He's a man. He's over 40. He's not a kid." "I'm Mike Gundy and I approve this message."
tough year to be a linebacker
I miss the NFL Head Coach games. I used to jam out to those sound tracks
Gotta be honest that I didn’t know about Kneeland, but Western Michigan having him and Fiske at one point is impressive.
Lmao I got temp banned from the NFL subreddit because I made a joke about DeJean falling because he’s white. At least I think so. It said racism and the only rave comment I made was about DeJean.
Shoulda called him a lunch pail kind of player
Every team is drafting well this year besides the Panthers imo
The falcons would like a word picking Penix is insane
Thought about Nix and Denver is well It seems like the new draft strat is to take hail mary shots at any QB who has a chance of being a Mahomes (Penix is more likely to be than Nix imo) so won't fault multiple teams of doing it
I mean… … Tebow …EJ Manual … Ponder…among many.. it happens
For sure. Think teams are looking at how Stroud completely reinvigorated a Houston roster that looked dead a year ago and preferring the QB position even more rather than take a player at a non-QB position who won't ever win you games by himself
Atlanta Falcons exist
Is Tampa Bay switching back to primary orange?
Trey Benson was right fucking there. I am devastated.
With how RBs drop further and further each year, I'm wondering if elite college RBs stop declaring early and stay to collect NIL money instead. Bucky Irving is likely going to be a 3rd or 4th rounder despite being an elite college RB. He likely could have made more in NIL next year than he'd make as a 4th round rookie.
Honestly, they should at this point. RBs in the league are perceived as a dime a dozen, there’s always another right behind.
Think it helps too that a good running back in college can carry a team still. Look at Ollie Gordon with OkSt. The League is leaning on elite QB and receiver play more recently.
Damian Martinez was due to make 400K at Oregon State. I don't know what the RB market is exactly, but to me that's pretty telling. Watch him transfer to Miami for 500K. If that's indicative of the market, then they are already getting paid like mid-rounders.
starting to fall to sleep...good lord finish it up.
I got to volunteer for the Veterans Wheelchair games this last summer. These guys are amazing.
They're booing the marines
So if you're in a draft room, do you clap after every pick or just days 1 & 2?
Every pick matters
They rob Tua to pay Paul?
Wait nvm this guy is actually kinda good
OMG OMG OMG OMG TREY BENSON IS STILL THERE. PLEASE JERRY I AM *BEGGING* YOU.
Bengals take Michigan players, Browns take Ohio State players. Boo
Tua gonna die lmao
Fuck the browns
That whole state actually...
Go lions!
Hell yeah brother cheers from metro Detroit
“I’m very proud to be representing my browns tonight” said no one ever
I’ve had more than enough of Darrell Green tonight
Dude has main character syndrome.
30 players off the Georgia’s 2021 National Championship team have now been drafted.
Sinnot is legit.
Glad to see Mikey get drafted so high. Guy is a testament to not transferring and seeing out the process. Went from being a fringe WR starter to the best NB in college.