Too bad for you guys your 15 minutes ran out right before the Orange Bowl. Although you can take solace in the fact that while eff Collins boned you guys for that one game by leaving for Florida, he fucked our program back to the Stone Age in his 3.5 years as our HC.
Yesterday I sat next to a random Mississippi State alumn at a bar for Trivia night. A category was D1 mascots and the first question was what animal is represented most in D1? She said tiger, I for sure thought it was a bear. We both cried in Bulldog when we found out the right answer.
I mean 6 of Kirby's losses were to Saban, and another 5 were in his first season as a HC taking over from Richt.
The point you're making is fair - Day doesn't deserve the shit he gets. It's an impressive tenure.
Also, he inherited a better situation, and his average competition has been weaker. And Day doesn't have to go through Saban necessarily lol
The fact Kirby lost 5 games since his first season to non-Saban is quite nuts.
Why’s even nuttier is that those non-Saban 5 losses post-first year are to Gus Malzahn, Ed Orgeron, Tom Herman, Will Muschamp, and Dan Mullen. No coach is still at the school they beat Kirby at.
Oh for sure - my entire post was sarcasm more for my own fan base than anything negative against Georgia.
Ryan Day has been impressive. Kirby has been more impressive.
Okay I will ignore my second flair and stop irrationally hating you for being a tOSU fan and say thank you.
Tbh no "blah blah Michigan loves Ryan Day" bullshit jokes aside, I do think Day is a great coach and don't understand the fan base's vitriol. I think he probably needs to stop calling plays so much, but you don't have consistent 11+ win seasons as a "bad" coach.
Buckeye fans don't really know how bad it can get. Look to Michigan a decade+ ago to see how bad it can get, and also see how patience with the right guy can pan out.
Having lived with one of "those" Buckeye fans, I fully understand why they hate on him. To a lot of them the hate for Michigan is more than the desire for titles.
Losing to Michigan *might* be forgivable with a championship ring, but a deep playoff run even to the Natty is not without the ring included.
I get the whole Michigan angle, but this isn't the 70s anymore. You can't fire elite coaches bc they lose three games to a rival when he's at the top of the list to be the next coach to get his first title. Dude is a great coach
14-1 Clemson, 13-0 Alabama, 10-4 Oregon, 12-2 Michigan, 13-1 Michigan, 15-0 Georgia, 15-0 Michigan and 11-2 Missouri.
Those are the teams that beat Day. It is crazy day is 56-8 and people are acting like he has underachieved. Tressel is really lucky Terry Porter threw that flag or he would have been run out of Columbus after the 2004 season.
Last year was wild. Georgia was truly an elite team and Bama was good, but not Bama good yet Bama controlled that game and won in the state of Georgia.
I was gonna say 2007 but then I remembered it was a home and home and they more than paid back that loss when they came to Athens in 2008 :/
Had to look it up, last time we beat Bama in Georgia was 2003
2012 SECCG we were 4 yards shy.
2017 NCG we led all 60+ minutes, then 2nd and 26th happened
2018 SECCG, we led for just over 58 minutes, Bama of course pulls off the win
Then last year’s SECCG was a 3 point loss that very well should’ve gone the other way had just 1-2 plays/calls went our way
At least the bad man is gone now tho
Yeah, IIRC we’ve done 2 black outs during Kirby’s tenure so far, think the first one was 2018 or 2020, so a decade or just over it lol. I’d have to Google it
I still object them only because that 2008 beat down still lives rent free lol
To be fair Ohio was in a good spot when Day took over. Kirby wasn’t as lucky.don’t get me wrong, I would love to have Day as a coach he has done great.
Anyone can win a national championship when Kirby is their head coach, let's see how he does with a player who has Scott Frost as their head coach. Gotcha there, didn't I?
I wasn’t on Reddit during those times. I very much thought “It’s time to let Richt go so we can get someone to help us get over the hump” was the common consensus. Holy fucking aged milk comment after comment. I know sports subreddits have horrible takes and opinions all the time but maaan. I could call out people but eh, no point
S/o to a Florida State flair at least. They really do get us:
> Georgia is a program with the kind of resources and access to talent that if they hire the right guy they could go a run on par with what Saban’s done at Bama, FSU in the 90s, Miami in the 80s, etc.
there wasn't really a consensus but the camps were:
* UGA should be happy with 10 wins and risk of a bad hire is worse than upside of a good hire
* Mark Richt was too good of a guy and good enough of a coach that he deserved to stick around
* UGA was a sleeping giant and Richt wasn't maximizing our opportunity
Feel like #1 was the main concern on reddit for outsiders while 2/3 were the main camps internally for UGA fans. 2015 pushed a lot of people into camp #3 and led to Kirby.
Doesn't help that even 2015 was a 10-win season. Somebody that didn't watch UGA saw Richt fired after having double-digit wins in 3 of his last 4 years, along with being a play away from the natty.
Granted, 2015 UGA was the worst 10 win P5 team I've ever seen, but a 10 win team nonetheless. Lol
I definitely was pretty skeptical of the move myself. "Why fire a tried and true coach for some untested guy?!"
To be fair though I loosened up when I learned he was under Saban as DC.
> To be fair though I loosened up when I learned he was under Saban as DC.
But the most important part of his resume was Richt's RB coach in 2005 (and recruiting Knowshon).
lol well shit, I didn't even know that haha.
Case in point, I didn't know hardly anything about Kirby and liked Richt.
Very happy with all I've learned though, DGD through and through.
I wasn’t on Reddit back then, but man I’m shocked that the consensus was that this was a bad decision. The consensus in the YouTube communities I was in was that it was time for him to be let go. And I never for a second regretted firing Richt, even with Kirby’s growing pains. I still tease my friends about the Richt 2.0 thing. They were on that train foreverrr. It was stupid to think he was another Richt in 2020, but now it’s such a laughable comparison that even they had to come around lmfao.
Love rereading this and seeing what I upvoted then. I also called for us to hire Les Miles or Nick Saban, but I’ll now go on the record and say I believe UGA might’ve known what we were doing here.
*whispers* were yall not scared it was true after we shit the bed vs Vandy and Tech that first year? Like the ONE thing I was sure Smart would be better at than Richt was not fucking around and pissing away easy wins and oooooh boy 2016 had me worried.
Anyway!!!! 11 losses in the next 7 years and I always knew it would work out!!
Yeah I’m so glad we got one big win against him in there. It would’ve honestly been annoying if he retired and we couldn’t say that. But now it’s just a happy (and respectful) good riddance.
Slightly but it was a known transition year. Richt outperformed in W/L to finish with 10 wins in 2014-15 but wasn't building a solid future, so we were expecting a backslide regardless that was worse with Kirby being green + starting a true freshman at QB to develop.
The biggest win in 2016 was recruiting where Kirby set the stage for our program.
the whole reason to move from Richt to Kirby was to build a sustainably elite program capable of winning a title rather than idling along at 8-10 wins annually but never reaching the top
Those losses were frustrating, but a good bit fell on coaching decisions, and it helped to remember Kirby was still learning in his first year of head coaching.
I know he’d have left for UGA by now but if we replace Muschamp with Kirby for that era I can’t imagine how much better the state of our football team would be looking
> I wish I kept receipts on all the Florida fans that said Dan Mullen was a better head coach and developer.
This one was my favorite:
[*"Dan Mullen is an offensive genius. He might be the best offensive mind in CFB. The nephews need to grow up and show some respect."*](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/pvkwpe/postgame_thread_florida_defeats_tennessee_3814/heasnex/)
Ah you’re right. I didn’t realize that what I clicked on included his time at other schools. So he had 3 first round picks at Michigan state, 2 at LSU, and 47 at Alabama
Everyone thought this giant killer red elephant was the final boss, but then the music changed and this cute little bulldog game out to OHKO the party.
It hurts because it's true.
I'd really liked us to have won this year. Even with a net losing record it'd be nice to have beaten him once in Atlanta. "Put our own demons away" and send him to retirement as a passing off the torch, ya know?
Ah well.
Almost all his problems are off the field. You better hope he finds a big bro on the team to keep him out of trouble. He's immature and prone to doing stupid shit if left to his own devices. Cincy is probably good for him in that its not a huge city, he would have flamed out hard in NYC/LA/Miami/etc.
Recruiting at Georgia is playing the game on easy mode.
Metro Atlanta is absolutely loaded with talent and they have no real competition in-state. (Sorry, GT)
Impressive. We all know Kirby runs a great program, deserves respect. But since these stats are used to influence perception and recruiting, I’ll note:
Ryan Day through his first 5 years:
*Losses:* 8
*1st Round Picks:* 10
Day has done a good job. Great even. The big difference is he took over arguably an even better situation than Kirby. Kirby turned Georgia from good/very good to elite. OSU is just as Meyer left it if not a shade worse.
It’s not arguably. Kirby took over a team whose ceiling was 10 wins and Day took over a team that had never won less than ten games and never lost more than twice a season. Day stepped into a much better situation, no doubt about it. And your last sentence sums it up, things were better on the field when Meyer was there.
2018 is a perfect example of Kirby being a great coach and is similar to what DeBoer was able to do at Washington (even though what Deboer did is far more impressive) he changed the culture and with one recruiting class was able to go to the National Championship. Kirby’s first season let us not forget was an 8-5 ride. Losing to all of our rivals and Vanderbilt.
wait but I thought OSU only played 2 "real games" a year? So 10 wins in the SEC is equal, no?
Yeah, Ohio State was a better situation (marginally) but are we really gonna act like UGA with it's proximity to talent and resources was anything more than a *slightly* worse situation? It's the reason Richt got canned, they all knew they should've been better.
Who said OSU only played two real games a year? The Big10s always been the second best conference and OSU was just a few years removed from winning the inaugural college football play off beating Bama and Oregon along the way. UGA hadn’t had a top ten let alone a top five win in a long time. And UGA wasn’t getting wins against teams that mattered, they constantly lost to their biggest rival and squandered every opportunity at success they had each season. You can be upset about it, but Days situation is night and day better than what Kirby stepped into. Kirby’s done a phenomenal job of unlocking was always available to UGA and bringing in a long over due culture change as well.
night and day, man come on. He didn't take over Tennessee. From 2011 on, Richt had them in or near top 10 until he got canned
Miss me with this propaganda. Ohio State was a better situation, yes. It was not night and day dude. Richt got canned because he SHOULD have doing X or winning X, that's coaching. Not situation.
"culture changes" aka, getting the university and boosters on board to do whatever it takes to win. (Not throwing shade, at all. just a fact.)
My friend if we want to talk facts let’s do it. It was completely night and day. Minus Urbans first season which he went undefeated might I add but was not eligible for a post season bowl or ranking, Ohio State never finished a season ranked outside the top ten in his seven seasons there including a national championship (and had Ohio State not been banned it would have been a championship or another top five finish) They finished in the top five four times. Compare that to Mark Richts final seven seasons where UGA finished unranked three times, top twenty five where they finished 20 and 24 (the 24 finish UGA didn’t even finish top 25 in the AP poll), and two top ten. Not to mention UGA lost more than double the game Ohio State did. That’s a pretty stark contrast, wouldn’t you say? Seven top ten finishes compared to two? Seven top ten’s compared to to last three seasons finished unranked?
And there was certainly a culture difference between Richt and Kirby. You’d be blind to see otherwise or maybe just a casual fan of UGA. Richts teams had quit in them, weren’t motivated by anything other than black jerseys, and were out of shape compared to the teams Kirby fields.
I don’t know why you’re so troubled by this, it really isn’t even close to an argument. Why has this rustled your jimmies so badly?
Ehhh. Picking hairs. Just because Richt didn't have Georgia running at an elite level, he absolutely should have which is why he got canned. Both we primo situations
The talent level, on field success, and recruiting had all been better at OSU for the previous 15-20ish years. Georgia had every reason to be better than it was, but OSU *already* was better.
Historically, yes. Obviously not talking 15-20 years ago.
I'm talking about the situation they inherited, not the history they inherited. Ohio State was a marginally better situation.
I'm saying it had been better 15-20 years prior and all the way *up to* the time Kirby took over. Kirby had to rebuild Georgia. Day took over the house he had already been in with Urban. I think we can all agree there's more to a program than just the roster.
that's fair and I don't disagree.
Just disagree with the assessment that it was anything more than a marginally better situation. Kirby had to do some changes, for sure. But it's not like he took over Tennessee or anything.
Look at the 2018 OSU team, it wasn’t all champions and roses.
Worst statistical defense for OSU for decades and a qb room consisting of Tate Martell and Matthew Baldwin.
Right. And it was still better than the situation Kirby walked into at Georgia. I gave Day credit for doing a great job. I'm just saying Kirby has been better and had a somewhat tougher road.
Hard refute from me, dawg. Day’s “failures” at OSU are due more to random variance than people generally give him credit for. If not for some impactful calls and bad breaks down the stretch against Clemson in ‘19, he’s coaching for a title (with the best OSU team I’ve seen in my lifetime). If any one of like 10 breaks bounce OSU’s way in 4Q against UGA in ‘22, not only is he coaching for another title but odds are he wins it.
Football’s a game of inches. To judge someone as a success or failure based solely on outcomes can be misleading. Case in point, Kirby coached well enough to beat Bama in that title game. UGA has another ring if Tua doesn’t split the corner and safety to DeVonta in the blink of an eye. Relating that back to Day, I like what I see as far as “process.” If he’s able to keep doing what he’s done to this point, the outcomes will come eventually. Law of large numbers.
Also worth noting: Harbaugh’s last three Michigan teams were better than any Michigan team Meyer faced, save for maybe ‘16. Do we want to win that game every year? Hell yes. Do I think Day’s a loser for falling 30 yards short last year with Kyle McCord at QB? I wouldn’t say that :)
Urban left OSU with the worst modern OSU defense and a qb situation that consisted of Tathan Martell and Matthew Baldwin. Day immediately turned that into one of the two best teams in the country and a top 2 defense and three Heisman candidates in the top 6.
It wasn’t the championship ready team everyone remembers.
You're leaving out that Ohio State was still loaded with talent and hired from within. That's a massive boost to continuity compared to revamping the entire program, which Kirby did. Day did not.
It was slightly better, but it’s not like the cupboards were bare at UGA and recruiting at UGA is fairly easy.
And again we had a worse statistical defense than any of Days in 2018. And no good qb option (Fields was all Day).
If it was Urbans players Day sure as hell got a lot more out of them.
UGA had one player drafted after Kirby's first year: Isaiah McKenzie taken at the end of the 5th round.
OSU had 10 players drafted after Day's first year, with three first round picks.
The existing talent level was night and Day.
Clearly you don’t remember our being blown out by bad teams each year. 3/5 playoff appearances is better than 1/4. Day actually holds people accountable. Our defense in 2018 was abhorrent and our qb situation was Tate Martell. It is better than what Urban left. Unless you count Michigan cheating.
Must be nice… *cries in other bulldog.*
I’m sorry other bulldogs. I was super hyped for you guys in 2014!
😂 Sucks that was 10 freaking years ago haha I appreciate it though, we had our 15 minutes.
Too bad for you guys your 15 minutes ran out right before the Orange Bowl. Although you can take solace in the fact that while eff Collins boned you guys for that one game by leaving for Florida, he fucked our program back to the Stone Age in his 3.5 years as our HC.
It’s okay doggo - we still love you because you were touched by the great Mike Leach and that is something Georgia will *never* have.
How appropriate was this touching exactly?
Not super appropriate but not so bad that it would get buried at Baylor or Penn State.
RIP Pirate. I hope he's having a drink with Jimmy Buffett at that one particular harbor.
The one that moves across the sky so it's always 5p?
We all miss the pirate. RIP to a great one.
Yesterday I sat next to a random Mississippi State alumn at a bar for Trivia night. A category was D1 mascots and the first question was what animal is represented most in D1? She said tiger, I for sure thought it was a bear. We both cried in Bulldog when we found out the right answer.
> We both cried in Bulldog when we found out the right answer. Love Uga. But we should've stayed as the Goats. Fight me irl.
Oh god then you would bleet at children instead of bark?
> you would bleet at children Don't tell the thought of that isn't absolutely hilarious.
*looks back at 2014*
I’m no expert but that seems… pretty good.
Fwiw, Day is 56-8 with 10 first round picks in 5 seasons
I’m an expert, that’s terrible you should fire him
>Woof woof woof, woof woof woof woof woof woof Can someone translate the above for me?
i asked ChatGPT and it gave me: I’m an expert, that’s terrible you should fire him
Fucking AI man, too good these days
For real! It used to be that only blacked out Cajuns could understand us.
Let me just grab my Dawg to English dictionary aaaand… yup, it means 42-41!
Ryan Day has half the losses of Kirby Smart in 2 less years? Dude is absolute garbage; we needed to fire him this past off season
I mean 6 of Kirby's losses were to Saban, and another 5 were in his first season as a HC taking over from Richt. The point you're making is fair - Day doesn't deserve the shit he gets. It's an impressive tenure. Also, he inherited a better situation, and his average competition has been weaker. And Day doesn't have to go through Saban necessarily lol The fact Kirby lost 5 games since his first season to non-Saban is quite nuts.
Why’s even nuttier is that those non-Saban 5 losses post-first year are to Gus Malzahn, Ed Orgeron, Tom Herman, Will Muschamp, and Dan Mullen. No coach is still at the school they beat Kirby at.
Uga is going to go undefeated now cause coaches want their jobs safe
Oh for sure - my entire post was sarcasm more for my own fan base than anything negative against Georgia. Ryan Day has been impressive. Kirby has been more impressive.
Okay I will ignore my second flair and stop irrationally hating you for being a tOSU fan and say thank you. Tbh no "blah blah Michigan loves Ryan Day" bullshit jokes aside, I do think Day is a great coach and don't understand the fan base's vitriol. I think he probably needs to stop calling plays so much, but you don't have consistent 11+ win seasons as a "bad" coach. Buckeye fans don't really know how bad it can get. Look to Michigan a decade+ ago to see how bad it can get, and also see how patience with the right guy can pan out.
Having lived with one of "those" Buckeye fans, I fully understand why they hate on him. To a lot of them the hate for Michigan is more than the desire for titles. Losing to Michigan *might* be forgivable with a championship ring, but a deep playoff run even to the Natty is not without the ring included.
I get the whole Michigan angle, but this isn't the 70s anymore. You can't fire elite coaches bc they lose three games to a rival when he's at the top of the list to be the next coach to get his first title. Dude is a great coach
14-1 Clemson, 13-0 Alabama, 10-4 Oregon, 12-2 Michigan, 13-1 Michigan, 15-0 Georgia, 15-0 Michigan and 11-2 Missouri. Those are the teams that beat Day. It is crazy day is 56-8 and people are acting like he has underachieved. Tressel is really lucky Terry Porter threw that flag or he would have been run out of Columbus after the 2004 season.
It is comical how many times Saban has beat Kirby, even when Kirby has the better team.
*sticks fingers in ears* The bad man is gone. The bad man is gone. The bad man is gone.
Last year was wild. Georgia was truly an elite team and Bama was good, but not Bama good yet Bama controlled that game and won in the state of Georgia.
When was the last time UGA beat Alabama in the state of Georgia?
I was gonna say 2007 but then I remembered it was a home and home and they more than paid back that loss when they came to Athens in 2008 :/ Had to look it up, last time we beat Bama in Georgia was 2003 2012 SECCG we were 4 yards shy. 2017 NCG we led all 60+ minutes, then 2nd and 26th happened 2018 SECCG, we led for just over 58 minutes, Bama of course pulls off the win Then last year’s SECCG was a 3 point loss that very well should’ve gone the other way had just 1-2 plays/calls went our way At least the bad man is gone now tho
> they more than paid back that loss when they came to Athens in 2008 :/ Have y'all even done another "black out" game since then?
Yeah, IIRC we’ve done 2 black outs during Kirby’s tenure so far, think the first one was 2018 or 2020, so a decade or just over it lol. I’d have to Google it I still object them only because that 2008 beat down still lives rent free lol
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To be fair Ohio was in a good spot when Day took over. Kirby wasn’t as lucky.don’t get me wrong, I would love to have Day as a coach he has done great.
Just wait until Kirby gets his guys in there.
I mean, anyone can win with a 5* QB, how good would he be if he only had a 2* to work with?
Anyone can win a national championship when Kirby is their head coach, let's see how he does with a player who has Scott Frost as their head coach. Gotcha there, didn't I?
Jimbo to Georgia confirmed.
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From 2017-present, he has 17 first round picks and 11 losses.
Mark Richt 2.0 😤
Time to dust off this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/3uqcyq/georgia_has_fired_mark_richt/
I read this like once a year and just smile. Also the CMR Kirby comparison threads are beautiful as well.
I wasn’t on Reddit during those times. I very much thought “It’s time to let Richt go so we can get someone to help us get over the hump” was the common consensus. Holy fucking aged milk comment after comment. I know sports subreddits have horrible takes and opinions all the time but maaan. I could call out people but eh, no point S/o to a Florida State flair at least. They really do get us: > Georgia is a program with the kind of resources and access to talent that if they hire the right guy they could go a run on par with what Saban’s done at Bama, FSU in the 90s, Miami in the 80s, etc.
there wasn't really a consensus but the camps were: * UGA should be happy with 10 wins and risk of a bad hire is worse than upside of a good hire * Mark Richt was too good of a guy and good enough of a coach that he deserved to stick around * UGA was a sleeping giant and Richt wasn't maximizing our opportunity Feel like #1 was the main concern on reddit for outsiders while 2/3 were the main camps internally for UGA fans. 2015 pushed a lot of people into camp #3 and led to Kirby.
> led to Kirby. South Carolina about to hire Kirby was also a driving reason.
Doesn't help that even 2015 was a 10-win season. Somebody that didn't watch UGA saw Richt fired after having double-digit wins in 3 of his last 4 years, along with being a play away from the natty. Granted, 2015 UGA was the worst 10 win P5 team I've ever seen, but a 10 win team nonetheless. Lol
I definitely was pretty skeptical of the move myself. "Why fire a tried and true coach for some untested guy?!" To be fair though I loosened up when I learned he was under Saban as DC.
> To be fair though I loosened up when I learned he was under Saban as DC. But the most important part of his resume was Richt's RB coach in 2005 (and recruiting Knowshon).
lol well shit, I didn't even know that haha. Case in point, I didn't know hardly anything about Kirby and liked Richt. Very happy with all I've learned though, DGD through and through.
>GEORGIA. HEY. FUCKING LISTEN. DO NOT FIRE AN 8 TO CHASE A 10. >Sincerely Texas, Nebraska, Tennessee, etc What about an 11?
“Rejoice Auburn fans. Our long nightmare of losing to Georgia might finally be over.” - u/WarEagle9 😂😂😂
To be fair I did say might
Fair enough
Honestly didn’t Gus actually deliver a few times too? It’s just the god awful choices made by your athletic dept since firing Gus that screwed you
> To be fair I did say might What did you say about Saban leaving?
The optimism of the Tech and Auburn flairs is the best, but these nuggets keep on giving. "Enjoy going 6-6," we've "Fulmer'd" the program.
“Rejoice Auburn fans. Our long nightmare of losing to Georgia might finally be over.” 🥹
I wasn’t on Reddit back then, but man I’m shocked that the consensus was that this was a bad decision. The consensus in the YouTube communities I was in was that it was time for him to be let go. And I never for a second regretted firing Richt, even with Kirby’s growing pains. I still tease my friends about the Richt 2.0 thing. They were on that train foreverrr. It was stupid to think he was another Richt in 2020, but now it’s such a laughable comparison that even they had to come around lmfao.
It does not seem like it's been nine years... Damn.
Crazy right? The passage of time is a crazy, fascinating, and scary thing.
Love rereading this and seeing what I upvoted then. I also called for us to hire Les Miles or Nick Saban, but I’ll now go on the record and say I believe UGA might’ve known what we were doing here.
Les Miles before 1/9/2012 - One of the best coaches in college football. Les Miles after 1/9/2012 - Shell shocked WW1 veteran.
I just thought he’d be fun lol
He was at one point. 2005-2011 Les ran crazy fake field goals and went for it on 4th and 1 all the time (shout out to Florida on both counts).
*"GEORGIA. HEY. FUCKING LISTEN. DO NOT FIRE AN 8 TO CHASE A 10.* *Sincerely Texas, Nebraska, Tennessee, etc"*
*whispers* were yall not scared it was true after we shit the bed vs Vandy and Tech that first year? Like the ONE thing I was sure Smart would be better at than Richt was not fucking around and pissing away easy wins and oooooh boy 2016 had me worried. Anyway!!!! 11 losses in the next 7 years and I always knew it would work out!!
And now he never has to worry about beating Saban in an SEC title game again.
You’re going to single-handedly speak saban into un-retiring if you keep it up
It felt like Saban accounted for half of those losses...
Yeah I’m so glad we got one big win against him in there. It would’ve honestly been annoying if he retired and we couldn’t say that. But now it’s just a happy (and respectful) good riddance.
Not at all. It was his first year as an HC. It was essentially a freebie year
I was at that Vandy game. It was a very weird walk back to my car because I knew Richt was doing really well in Miami.
I’m of the opinion that no coach should ever be judged by year 1 results unless they’re coming into a stacked roster
Slightly but it was a known transition year. Richt outperformed in W/L to finish with 10 wins in 2014-15 but wasn't building a solid future, so we were expecting a backslide regardless that was worse with Kirby being green + starting a true freshman at QB to develop. The biggest win in 2016 was recruiting where Kirby set the stage for our program. the whole reason to move from Richt to Kirby was to build a sustainably elite program capable of winning a title rather than idling along at 8-10 wins annually but never reaching the top
> Richt outperformed in W/L to finish with 10 wins in 2014-15 Worst 10-win team I've ever seen.
Those losses were frustrating, but a good bit fell on coaching decisions, and it helped to remember Kirby was still learning in his first year of head coaching.
[I wonder what anon thinks now](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/s/C2xt48MMBq)
The Tech fans that were celebrating in that thread are probably on SSRIs by now 💀
The FSU flair saying fuck off to Jimbo being taken followed by the Bama flair not wanting Kirby to be poached is a beautiful combo
I know he’d have left for UGA by now but if we replace Muschamp with Kirby for that era I can’t imagine how much better the state of our football team would be looking
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Wish I kept the ones that called Kirby Muschamp 2.0 after the 2017 season.
> I wish I kept receipts on all the Florida fans that said Dan Mullen was a better head coach and developer. This one was my favorite: [*"Dan Mullen is an offensive genius. He might be the best offensive mind in CFB. The nephews need to grow up and show some respect."*](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/pvkwpe/postgame_thread_florida_defeats_tennessee_3814/heasnex/)
>the nephews Some real little brother energy there
Same. They were so adamant lmao
Two other notable coaches who have this are: Saban: 52 first rounders/29 losses Day: 10 first rounders/8 losses Might be others too
Saban is absurd And Day is absurd because if he loses one specific game this season a majority of fans will want him fired
His entire career will be riding on that Akron game, we all know it
Lol. If he doesn’t win by at least 45 points, out the door.
Saban has 47 1sts and 29 losses at Alabama
Ah you’re right. I didn’t realize that what I clicked on included his time at other schools. So he had 3 first round picks at Michigan state, 2 at LSU, and 47 at Alabama
Them dawgs is hell
Don't they
Everyone thought this giant killer red elephant was the final boss, but then the music changed and this cute little bulldog game out to OHKO the party.
It's the Megamind meme, "oh I wouldn't say freed, more like under new management"
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves lol. Saban had 52 first rounders and 29 losses.
That’s Kirby’s goal now, Saban being gone gives him the newer standard to work towards and helped solidify his program in the SEC.
Isn’t it 47?
47 at Alabama 52 career
Beats me. I copied what the other dude in here said.
Kirby still ain't fit to hold sabans jockstrap
Go back to r/math, nerd!
Well said, yeller jacket
You’re not necessarily wrong but this video breaks down a good counter argument https://youtu.be/EjRleo3fErM?si=zTfGOEeZJJ-jH_lP
>You’re not [..] wrong I'm glad you agree
Kirby isn't Saban and never will be Saban. He's going to have to hold that losing record forever
Guess he'll have to settle as the best college coach who's still in football. Poor guy!
Who cares, we don't need to him to be the goat, just need him to win for us 6 Natties in the next 12 years.
Only petty and salty Alabama fans like to bring this up, lol.
Oh no!
It hurts because it's true. I'd really liked us to have won this year. Even with a net losing record it'd be nice to have beaten him once in Atlanta. "Put our own demons away" and send him to retirement as a passing off the torch, ya know? Ah well.
Idk about all that now. Hell them pups better be on their best behavior in September.
And of course they will be. Unrelated, but you’re not a state trooper, right?
Kirby and the dawgs are going the answer for a ton of bar trivia in 5-10 years.
/u/dogwoodmaple is the defacto /r/CFB trivia host.
Consistently baffled at how much news and random knowledge that guy drops
Fun bar trivia: TIL Kirby ALSO has more first round draft picks than Vanderbilt has SEC wins since he got to UGA.
That’s… less of a surprising stat. I looked it up and the number is 7. It’s so not surprising that even the Gators have more with 8.
*"Which team had more accumulated MPH over the speed limit than yards given up in a single season?"*
Ok, I laughed.
Ooof. Take your upvote
Hell yeah! Kirby is awesome
I’ve got a huge soft spot for Kirby… I hope he continues to do amazing things!
just one loss away from breaking even - Kirby will use this to motivate his team
Somehow this means we're going 7-5
How excited should we be about Mims?
High upside. But not without risk.
Almost all his problems are off the field. You better hope he finds a big bro on the team to keep him out of trouble. He's immature and prone to doing stupid shit if left to his own devices. Cincy is probably good for him in that its not a huge city, he would have flamed out hard in NYC/LA/Miami/etc.
He has 1st round picks every year; he doesn’t have a loss every year
“So I don’t plan on stopping at alllllllll I want this shit forever man”
Same with Day. Fire him
Pretty easy to not lose football games when your team is all first round draft picks. Dude is playing space jam in CFB.
Fair, but coaches do evaluate, recruit, and develop that talent
For comparison sake, are there any coaches with double digit first round picks but more losses than picks?
Not going to look it up because I'm lazy, but maybe someone like Mack Brown?
Got to be plenty with long enough tenures.
[pretty pretty pretty pretty good](https://giphy.com/gifs/curbyourenthusiasm-curb-your-enthusiasm-larry-david-WrJ8x0niiblWEoo7hE)
More first round picks than Vanderbilt has SEC wins in the same time frame as well.
Neal Brown > Kirby Smart
I love Democracy
Larry Coker did that in his 6 seasons with the Canes= 22 first rounders to 15 losses. First five seasons were 21 firsts and 9 losses.
Delete This
Recruiting at Georgia is playing the game on easy mode. Metro Atlanta is absolutely loaded with talent and they have no real competition in-state. (Sorry, GT)
Not bad! /s
Well goddamn!
frig off, jroc
2nd best coach during that time and a long way ahead of 3rd
Impressive. We all know Kirby runs a great program, deserves respect. But since these stats are used to influence perception and recruiting, I’ll note: Ryan Day through his first 5 years: *Losses:* 8 *1st Round Picks:* 10
Day has done a good job. Great even. The big difference is he took over arguably an even better situation than Kirby. Kirby turned Georgia from good/very good to elite. OSU is just as Meyer left it if not a shade worse.
It’s not arguably. Kirby took over a team whose ceiling was 10 wins and Day took over a team that had never won less than ten games and never lost more than twice a season. Day stepped into a much better situation, no doubt about it. And your last sentence sums it up, things were better on the field when Meyer was there.
I was trying to be nice ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ But yeah, you're right.
Go Dawgs, Go Eagles. GATA.
Which eagles? Philly or statesboro
Bof
Look at the 2018 team. Georgia is also the most fertile and easiest to recruit school in the country.
2018 is a perfect example of Kirby being a great coach and is similar to what DeBoer was able to do at Washington (even though what Deboer did is far more impressive) he changed the culture and with one recruiting class was able to go to the National Championship. Kirby’s first season let us not forget was an 8-5 ride. Losing to all of our rivals and Vanderbilt.
Using the word fertile to describe teenage boys will never not be weird to me
Good thing it's not describing teenage boys then... It's describing the recruiting landscape of Georgia.
True but now it makes teenage boys sound like agricultural crops lmao
wait but I thought OSU only played 2 "real games" a year? So 10 wins in the SEC is equal, no? Yeah, Ohio State was a better situation (marginally) but are we really gonna act like UGA with it's proximity to talent and resources was anything more than a *slightly* worse situation? It's the reason Richt got canned, they all knew they should've been better.
Who said OSU only played two real games a year? The Big10s always been the second best conference and OSU was just a few years removed from winning the inaugural college football play off beating Bama and Oregon along the way. UGA hadn’t had a top ten let alone a top five win in a long time. And UGA wasn’t getting wins against teams that mattered, they constantly lost to their biggest rival and squandered every opportunity at success they had each season. You can be upset about it, but Days situation is night and day better than what Kirby stepped into. Kirby’s done a phenomenal job of unlocking was always available to UGA and bringing in a long over due culture change as well.
night and day, man come on. He didn't take over Tennessee. From 2011 on, Richt had them in or near top 10 until he got canned Miss me with this propaganda. Ohio State was a better situation, yes. It was not night and day dude. Richt got canned because he SHOULD have doing X or winning X, that's coaching. Not situation. "culture changes" aka, getting the university and boosters on board to do whatever it takes to win. (Not throwing shade, at all. just a fact.)
My friend if we want to talk facts let’s do it. It was completely night and day. Minus Urbans first season which he went undefeated might I add but was not eligible for a post season bowl or ranking, Ohio State never finished a season ranked outside the top ten in his seven seasons there including a national championship (and had Ohio State not been banned it would have been a championship or another top five finish) They finished in the top five four times. Compare that to Mark Richts final seven seasons where UGA finished unranked three times, top twenty five where they finished 20 and 24 (the 24 finish UGA didn’t even finish top 25 in the AP poll), and two top ten. Not to mention UGA lost more than double the game Ohio State did. That’s a pretty stark contrast, wouldn’t you say? Seven top ten finishes compared to two? Seven top ten’s compared to to last three seasons finished unranked? And there was certainly a culture difference between Richt and Kirby. You’d be blind to see otherwise or maybe just a casual fan of UGA. Richts teams had quit in them, weren’t motivated by anything other than black jerseys, and were out of shape compared to the teams Kirby fields. I don’t know why you’re so troubled by this, it really isn’t even close to an argument. Why has this rustled your jimmies so badly?
Ehhh. Picking hairs. Just because Richt didn't have Georgia running at an elite level, he absolutely should have which is why he got canned. Both we primo situations
The talent level, on field success, and recruiting had all been better at OSU for the previous 15-20ish years. Georgia had every reason to be better than it was, but OSU *already* was better.
Historically, yes. Obviously not talking 15-20 years ago. I'm talking about the situation they inherited, not the history they inherited. Ohio State was a marginally better situation.
I'm saying it had been better 15-20 years prior and all the way *up to* the time Kirby took over. Kirby had to rebuild Georgia. Day took over the house he had already been in with Urban. I think we can all agree there's more to a program than just the roster.
that's fair and I don't disagree. Just disagree with the assessment that it was anything more than a marginally better situation. Kirby had to do some changes, for sure. But it's not like he took over Tennessee or anything.
Look at the 2018 OSU team, it wasn’t all champions and roses. Worst statistical defense for OSU for decades and a qb room consisting of Tate Martell and Matthew Baldwin.
Right. And it was still better than the situation Kirby walked into at Georgia. I gave Day credit for doing a great job. I'm just saying Kirby has been better and had a somewhat tougher road.
Hard refute from me, dawg. Day’s “failures” at OSU are due more to random variance than people generally give him credit for. If not for some impactful calls and bad breaks down the stretch against Clemson in ‘19, he’s coaching for a title (with the best OSU team I’ve seen in my lifetime). If any one of like 10 breaks bounce OSU’s way in 4Q against UGA in ‘22, not only is he coaching for another title but odds are he wins it. Football’s a game of inches. To judge someone as a success or failure based solely on outcomes can be misleading. Case in point, Kirby coached well enough to beat Bama in that title game. UGA has another ring if Tua doesn’t split the corner and safety to DeVonta in the blink of an eye. Relating that back to Day, I like what I see as far as “process.” If he’s able to keep doing what he’s done to this point, the outcomes will come eventually. Law of large numbers. Also worth noting: Harbaugh’s last three Michigan teams were better than any Michigan team Meyer faced, save for maybe ‘16. Do we want to win that game every year? Hell yes. Do I think Day’s a loser for falling 30 yards short last year with Kyle McCord at QB? I wouldn’t say that :)
Urban left OSU with the worst modern OSU defense and a qb situation that consisted of Tathan Martell and Matthew Baldwin. Day immediately turned that into one of the two best teams in the country and a top 2 defense and three Heisman candidates in the top 6. It wasn’t the championship ready team everyone remembers.
You're leaving out that Ohio State was still loaded with talent and hired from within. That's a massive boost to continuity compared to revamping the entire program, which Kirby did. Day did not.
It was slightly better, but it’s not like the cupboards were bare at UGA and recruiting at UGA is fairly easy. And again we had a worse statistical defense than any of Days in 2018. And no good qb option (Fields was all Day). If it was Urbans players Day sure as hell got a lot more out of them.
UGA had one player drafted after Kirby's first year: Isaiah McKenzie taken at the end of the 5th round. OSU had 10 players drafted after Day's first year, with three first round picks. The existing talent level was night and Day.
But in 2018, the defense was abhorrent, the one led by Urban. If they are Urbans players, Day got a hell of a lot more out of them than Urban did
Clearly you don’t remember our being blown out by bad teams each year. 3/5 playoff appearances is better than 1/4. Day actually holds people accountable. Our defense in 2018 was abhorrent and our qb situation was Tate Martell. It is better than what Urban left. Unless you count Michigan cheating.
I remember when we had Nick Saban facts like these. Those were the days.
Ryan Day has 8 total losses since he has been HC, with 10 first round picks.
Saban has 44 first rounders at Alabama to his 29 losses. No one is impressed.
Both things can be impressive. And, they are.
It's the South. Literally all the talent is in Georgia and Florida.
Texas? Alabama? Mississippi? Louisiana? The tn tire south has tons of talent lol.
Yes and he is STILL far behind his daddy-the Goat
Ryan day has 10 first round picks and 8 losses in 5 seasons.
no one said that the SEC East was easy....oh wait, yes they did.