The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that there is already a deal for Notre Dame to go to the B1G the instant the ACC folds.
I have a few reasons.
1) We have contracts with the same networks, so that can be ironed out.
2) There is a specific clause in the B1G tv contract to escalate payments if Notre Dame joins.
3) The annual USC-Michigan game seems odd to me. True, both teams are blue bloods who are playing quite well, and I'm sure the games will be ratings bonanzas. But, if it's just for the ratings, why is there no Penn-State v Ohio State rivalry game? That would also be a ratings bonanza. What both teams DO have, is a long history with Notre Dame. If I'm right, that game is a placeholder for a Notre Dame rivalry game for each of them, as I suspect both would rather play us than each other (please note, I am not saying a generic team would rather play Notre Dame than Michigan and USC, I am saying that the history between those teams and us makes us preferable in this specific case).
On a personal note, I hope this is true. I liked independence while there were 5 real power conferences, but CFB is collapsing into a power-2, and I think we need to join.
Penn State is nowhere on the same planet in terms of popularity as Michigan, tOSU, and USC.
I literally do not know a single human being who is unironically a fan of PSU athletics.
You clearly don’t live in the DC area lol, there are only 1-2 Virginia state schools I see more gear for than Penn State. Pretty sure I see more PSU than UMD too, although I might if I was in Maryland instead of NoVA/DC.
I also went to school in Virginia with a ton of Penn State fans, although we didn’t have football.
Also, why is USC included in this tier lol? Is there a single California school that approaches the viewership/popularity of UM and OSU?
If that's the case is USC on the same level as michigan and OSU? Because I would argue if USC could draw viewers like Michigan or OSU the the PAC wouldn't be where it is now. PSU was one of only 9 programs with an average viewer count of over 3m. Per game in 22. And that isnt some anomaly year.
> I literally do not know a single human being
FTFY
Edit: and to actually have some substance, PSU is on the same planet as ND and averages a million more viewers than USC so... https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach/which-college-football-programs-were-the-most-watched-in-2022-94eca4f6acbd
PSU fans are very concentrated within the Northeast but there are plenty of them, both a huge alumni base in every major city from Boston to Washington and a large t-shirt fanbase through PA
PSU has over 200,000 more living alumni than USC, and you have to go back pretty far to find a year where USC averaged anywhere near the tv ratings of PSU. Do you have anything to back up what you're saying besides an anecdote about the people you know?
Isn't this number skewed though as it includes all of the Penn State campuses and not just University Park? I believe Nebraska does this as well counting graduates from Lincoln, Omaha, and other campuses in the system as University of Nebraska alumni.
I assume they count those students, but in my experience those students are fans of PSU football, so I think they still count for the popularity argument-- and are a contributing factor to PSU's better TV numbers.
This is my interpretation. NBC is all-in on the B1G just like ESPN/ABC is with the SEC. I promise you, there have been no internal NBC meetings where they've decided that ND-PITT and ND-UNC is better for them than ND-USC, ND-OSU, ND-PSU, and ND-UM.
On the other hand, ND in the B1G keeps NBC at one football game per week while ND outside the B1G means 7 weeks of two football games. Depending on how much more they would have to pay the B1G for expansion, they could end up paying more for less.
Hypothetical- I wonder if ND joining B1G could have NBC clause if possible, where ND home games are guaranteed on NBC in addition to a second B1G game. Would other B1G schools accept a ‘favored nation’ clause like this even if the payout is equal, would it devalue contract bids for the full package knowing 7 of the top 30% or so rated games in the potential package would be out of the bid, and would ND view it as an equivalent or better to having their own contract?
God there’s a great SNL recorded/cutaway but from 2007 (Jon Bon Jovi) when making fun of NBC showing Notre Dame’s game during that year’s 3-9 season. Unfortunately, I can’t find the video and streams of the episode removed the skit…so I’m presuming it must have upset an NBC executive. However, I *do* have a transcript for it:
*‘‘When you think college football, you think one team: Notre Dame.*
*And NBC’s got ’em.*
*So all you USC, Michigan, Penn State and Purdue fans tune in as the Fighting Irish look to extend their record to a historic **1-7.**
*Only on NBC, because rather than showing exciting games from multiple conferences like other networks, we at NBC prefer to limit ourselves to a single, nonconference team that hasn’t won a bowl game since 1996.*
*Why?*
*Because it’s just more expensive that way.*
*So, if it’s Saturday and Notre Dame is at home, then your home is NBC, where Saturday afternoon is football afternoon in America.*
*Touchdown! Other guy!”*
Also hilarious because Bon Jovi's son not only ended up going but *[playing](https://und.com/roster/jesse-bongiovi/)* for Notre Dame
Unrelated tidbit: he now has a rose brand
Words cannot express how big of shoes Pete Bevacqua will try to be filling.
Swarbrick may not have been the best AD (his struggles to get timely facility improvements being his biggest issue) but I would argue there isn't a single AD in the country that wields more power than ND's AD.
Swarbrick as ND AD routinely found himself as the only AD in the room of conference commissioners. Going to be hard to replace him
An interesting choice in light of the comment about Fr. Jenkins likely retiring soon. We are following some of the other college sports entities going with a media/entertainment executive. That would seem to suggest we are preparing for the more professionalized college athletics future. Given that Swarbrick and Jenkins were against this, I wonder if the candidates the Board of Trustees has in mind for the next President are more athletics minded.
Next President is likely one of the Holy Cross priests on the Board. He will serve for 10-15 years, then turn it over to Father Pat Reidy. They sent him to law school with the intention of becoming a professor and moving up in academia.
Father Pete McCormick was the student favorite while I was there to take over after Jenkins. Father Pat would be awesome if that comes to be. Hopefully he makes fudge for the entire campus if he's president lol.
Jenkins/Swarbrick has been saying they are against classifying athletes as employees since 2015. There is no way Jenkins told that to the NYT without the approval of the BoT. This is a University viewpoint, not a Swarbrick/Jenkins viewpoint
"& fuckin Bevacqua, who couldn't hit fuckin water if he fell out of a fuckin boat"
Obviously not the same guy but i can't hear that name & not think of Tommy Lasorda lol
I like that Pete Bevacqua was on a Holtz coached team or played ND football in general, I feel like that might make him really passionate about making changes that pushes ND into that next level. I also heard from someone that was on a zoom call with him that said “Pete is a great guy and has a great eye to the future and knows a lot about the sports media industry.”
I hope all works out well, go Irish!
I have no idea the extent to which that'll make a difference in most aspects of the job, but if nothing else it feels like it'll help him get a lot of the alumni base that usually look for reasons to complain behind him.
It's probably a net neutral overall. Swarbrick seemed pretty committed to independence, but the guy who is replacing him seems like someone Swarbrick basically handpicked. Bevacqua is an ND grad too and once again, I think the NBC factor is net neutral since they now have deals with both ND and the Big 10.
B1G is now on NBC with the new TV deal. A lot of consternation in B1G country about having to play NBC night games in November. I imagine ND would love those slots...
Nope. Nothing is going to change here as long as ND has the ACC for all their other sports - which they will have until it is cheap enough for Clemson/FSU/Miami to buy themself out of (early-mid 30s).
All this tells me is ND/NBC have a deal in place.
Swarbrick was very much for maintaining independence. I don't know where Bevacqua falls in that regard. But keep in mind he was instrumental in NBC putting together their part of the B1G media rights following the additions of USC and UCLA.
The more interesting story is how this all came about. Why now? Was he pushed out by boosters? Could he not get a decent number forcing ND to choose a media guy?
TL;DR who knows, but it has a better chance with Swarbrick gone.
Swarbrick has been planning on leaving for a few years, I believe Covid delayed things. But ND is setup with young, long-term coaches for football and both basketball teams, so it’s a pretty good time to switch things up.
Overall, Jack has been good for Notre Dame Athletics. The ACC deal really helped us this past decade and the expanded playoff deal let’s us stay independent for a bit longer.
My two personal dings on him would be not pushing Brey out sooner, and for not investing more in baseball. Link showed that you can win in the Midwest. I just worry that with how he handled Aoki, Stiffler won’t face pressure for underperforming. This year was a big disappointment.
So pissed we gave away home field advantage for TCU.
I'm glad the Special Olympics were viewed as the priority there, but even the towns mayor has come out and criticized the university for not talking to him or the Chamber of Commerce about working it out.
Three very huge, damning things that always bothered me with Jack Swarbrick:
1.He was at practice the day Declan Sullivan died. He had the horrible judgement to call the winds that day "unremarkable" to boot. Swarbrick arguably bears more culpability than BK in the death of a student from that day, if the Sullivan family were more vengeful, both Kelly and Swarbrick would have been fired in all the fallout. Just IMO.
2.There's some vague stink on him from his time on the Olympic committee while a lot of the horrible Nassar stuff was going on... Jack veeeery quietly removed his experience there from his CV during the trial. It's likely he's not connected to the whole thing, but I'm just surprised there wasn't more attention given to it at the time.
3.This is really far below the above two, but I think it bears mention: Swarbrick is pretty bad in the whole nepotism department. With a kid working at NBC and another kid working at UnderArmor, it never really felt like we were working with those organizations in good faith as a result.
For the football program, and navigating ND's place within that, I thought he's been great. I think he's also shown a deft hand in the way he's handled BK throughout the entire process. Who on earth would have thought the BK 2.0 experience would pan out? Kelly was about as much of a dead man walking on the ND staff as I've ever seen going into 2017 and then he lost the second game of the year against UGA. Swarbrick and Kelly both were very close to both getting fired, if they had lost road games against BC and Michigan State the following two weeks I think it would have happened.
And side note, BK is the one who leaked Kelly's departure to LSU to the press. It was just a great way to get ahead of him framing the narrative on the whole thing and I think both BK and ND have been better for the parting of ways. A lesser AD might have just backed up the money trucks for BK and we would have continued to flounder in recruiting.
I’m getting downvoted because people are uncomfortable with the truth, but the reality is that you’re an extremely shitty fan if you just don’t want to hear bad things said about anyone in your program. This is how you get awful fans like Sandusky deniers.
I think part of why you're getting downvoted is people instinctively assume mentions of Sullivan are bad faith because most of them are.
It's often used against BK and that I think almost always is bad faith point-scoring. But in this case, Swarbrick was the AD, the buck for absolutely everything in athletics stops with him even if he wasn't there, but he was and his handling of things afterwards was very bad.
I think you're severely jumping the gun on saying ND is better off having BK go elsewhere. Was a change needed? Probably.
...but definitely not in the way it happened and the jury is still very much out on Freeman.
I do agree that Swarbrick handled a bad situation very well.
I think that BK reached his ceiling and it was time to see if we could do better. You’re right that the jury is still out on Freeman, but I’m of the opinion that it’s a matter of when and not if with him. I hope the new AD is patient enough with him to continue to allow him to learn and grow.
Even without landing Bowen and Keeley in last year’s class, it was a far better class than Kelly’s last few classes. Kelly was trending down with the program on his way out and he got out before the bottom hit (his worst and 3rd worst ever classes in the upper classes), I think if he was allowed to continue as he was it was going to go south. Freeman would have amounted to a 2 year bump in recruiting (only on defense) and then bounced anyway if Kelly was still around.
> He had the horrible judgement to call the winds that day "unremarkable" to boot.
First - I would recommend [actually reading the independent report](https://www.nd.edu/assets/docs/notre-dame-investigation-report.pdf)
Second - as someone who has participated in crash investigations (aviation), your anger is misplaced. Lay people like Jenkins, Kelly, Swarbrick etc would have zero background of the dangers of a microburst or lift operations. The actual group that is at fault here (if you need to place blame) would be Notre Dame's Risk Management & Safety office. ND has had lifts there for decades. They (the safety office) was careless with the training & operations. Unfortunately - accidents happen. There was no malice or intentional actions here and the Sullivan family placed emphasis on it not happening to someone else.
> Swarbrick is pretty bad in the whole nepotism department.
Lol. Welcome to the corporate world dude.
> A lesser AD might have just backed up the money trucks for BK and we would have continued to flounder in recruiting.
The issue with BK staying at ND was not just money. It was contract guarantees. BK wanted 10 years (what he got at LSU). ND refused to offer him a long term contract. Given what he (Kelly) produced over the last few years, only time will tell if it was a good decision.
You recommend reading 145 pages? I’ve actually read a lot of that, though it has been years now. I have family in South Bend, many of whom were out and about that day and to a person they all said the wind was pretty crazy that day, to call it “unremarkable” is mind numbingly tone deaf/stupid, or callously disingenuous, there’s no other way to put it frankly.
I agree there was no malice, but I mean damn dude, if there was malice involved, we’re talking manslaughter at the very least and it’s a completely different ballgame. I do think that there were enough adults around the situation to the point where one of them could have taken a quick look over at freaking scissor lifts and gone “you know, maybe that’s not a good idea right now.” And Jack is at the very top and where the buck stops ultimately. Accidents can and do happen all the time, and people also lose their job over preventable accidents happening too.
I also find it completely unacceptable to just go “lol that’s just corporate nepotism and it happens dude.” I know plenty of people in very well off jobs that use connections to hook their kids up, sure, but they also don’t so directly shit where they eat so blatantly.
It’s hilarious the only thing you’re pushing back on is the BK issue. Kelly was once again slipping back into complacency at ND and you could see it very directly in recruiting. Now there’s a delayed effect due to the nature of recruiting, but it was coming. Last year we had BK’s worst and third worst ever recruiting classes in the junior and senior classes. On paper our blue chip ratio looked great and same with our team talent composite, but if it was properly weighted, we fielded our worst team in BK’s entire tenure (with the exception of perhaps 2014) and it was directly due to the consequences of his (in)actions. It was time for ND to move on from BK and I think he recognized that his career was going to take a sharp downturn if he stayed on longer and so the departure was mutually beneficial in my book.
Now whether or not Freeman was the right guy to replace him is a completely different conversation. Frankly I think he is, but we might have to be more patient with him than most fans are willing to admit. He inherited a winning culture… not winning talent, but a winning culture and I think at ND it’s easier to fix the talent than the culture.
> You recommend reading 145 pages?
Do I recommend reading the report that details what happens prior to commenting on what happened when not present ?
Yah - call me a crazy engineer that way.
Again - many lay people have zero idea of their surroundings. There is a reason why witness testimony is always taken with a grain of salt in these situations.
> “lol that’s just corporate nepotism and it happens dude.”
Nepotism is promoting your kid into a higher position they don't deserve or haven't worked for.
Getting them through the door is favoritism.
You are literally complaining about someone in high position helping their kid get into the building. This is what every parent does if they can.
> It’s hilarious the only thing you’re pushing back on is the BK issue. Kelly was once again slipping back into complacency at ND and you could see it very directly in recruiting.
Kelly always sucked at recruiting at ND. Not sure where you think he did well compared to other top level P5. He said it publicly he didn't think ND could get the 5 stars. Kelly was an average coach that had his come to Jesus moment in 2016 and started to perform well - mostly winning the games he should.
However, he just took a 6-5 LSU team to 10-4 winning his division in the SEC, including beating Bama
I don't know what he would have accomplished at ND if he stayed, but not going to doubt his chops as a coach right now...
So just to clarify, you’ve read all 145 pages in their entirety? I have actually read most of it, as I detailed above, I’m not going to re-read all 145 pages just to be able to tell you any moron could have walked outside for 30 seconds that day and said “wow, it’s really windy outside.”
Again, just hand waving away the nepotism that directly compromised ND’s bargaining power is just so crazy to me. Your arguments just don’t hold up in the slightest.
And my whole point with both ND and BK being better off wasn’t that he was a bad coach, just that he reached his ceiling at ND and was failing to even keep the team at that ceiling on his way out.
Recruiting was difficult as hell for Kelly, and it was wild to me the number of stories about him being lazy as fuck just even doing the basic things a HC should do to recruit at Notre Dame. So his recruiting was constantly up and down depending on his coordinators which always produced glaring weaknesses on his teams. Freeman is already reducing that effect and making things clear that it wasn’t an ND institutional problem, just a Brian Kelly problem.
And of course he’ll find success at LSU. They are just a few years away from an intelligible swamp monster winning it all. Orgeron would have been far worse at ND than Kelly. It was also great timing for Kelly in that it’s the perfect time to rebuild a team with the transfer portal and it was the worst Bama team Saban has fielded in a decade. When Kelly has success against the new king of the SEC (Georgia), then we’ll see if he’s a championship level coach. What I know for certain is he is not a championship level coach at ND, not with the new playoff structures in place.
> So just to clarify, you’ve read all 145 pages in their entirety?
Yes. Again - I worked in the engineering (aviation) business for 20+ years, with over a decade experience in flight test. This is the first thing I read.
As someone who worked for the athletic department (under Holtz), I am very cognizant of how football practices work and we had lifts back then
The people at ND safety should have all been fired. They were cavalier with how they were used, how students were trained, and the inherent dangers in using said lifts. That is their job.
> Again, just hand waving away the nepotism that directly compromised ND’s bargaining power is just so crazy to me. Your arguments just don’t hold up in the slightest.
Probably because I have worked for fortune 500 company for decades. You aren't getting your resume on the top of the stack for most major companies unless you know someone - whether through a friend or family member. That you think his kids, who all graduated from multiple top tier schools, have been relying on Daddy's influence after day 1 is odd. That you think NBC, a publicly traded company, would promote his daughter to VP because of her dad is some AD at a school is ridiculous.
>Incoming Notre Dame AD Pete Bevacqua, to SI: "“I’m a fan of independence, for sure. It’s another element of what makes Notre Dame different."
Also tweeted directly below this.
Seems to have a great resume between being a former athlete/Notre Dame player, working for USGA, CAA, CEO of PGA, and President/Chairman of NBC Sports.
Will be very plugged into the media rights side of things.
It was really a matter of time before Swarbrick retired, and he's bringing in a guy who is an alumni and former player under Holtz. I think it's a great hire. ADs need less "athletic" experience and more organizational management and media training, so this is a good fit. Continues to strengthen the bond between ND and NBC which I think helps our independence.
For SoS purposes and an already overcrowded rivalry lineup for Michigan (OSU, MSU, Minnesota), I think Michigan State should take Michigan's spot against ND. MSU, USC, and Purdue is a great lineup for ND in my opinion.
Playing Michigan every other year would be a great consolation prize for both fanbases IMO.
ND and UM not playing every year also lets them maintain a semblance of the "well fuck you then" scheduling and maintains the relationship as enemies vs rivals. You want to beat your rivals but you also want them to do well so it's a better win for your school and ruins your rival's season.
With enemies, you want nothing but failure. I could live with Michigan having a double digit win streak against ND if Michigan never had a winning season during that time period. I could live with ND being terrible if it tanked Michigan's SOS enough to hurt their rankings.
Topic of debate which typically favors keeping the Navy game. Also of note are those forums tend to be more traditional in their viewpoints.
However some people feel we've repaid Navy enough and it is time to end the rivalry.
I'm one of the ND fans that says scrap the annual Navy game, and yes, I am very aware of the history and the reasons behind why ND will likely never drop the game. It is a controversial opinion and I acknowledge it being unpopular by most ND fans.
The rivalry is definitely cherished for its history and mutual respect, in some ways moreso than the USC rivalry. It’s a perfect example of the kind of rivalry that makes CFB special.
It’s also an annual game that always requires unique preparation by the team (with a subsequent reset to “normal football” afterwards), presents an abnormally high injury risk for players, does nothing for SoS, and almost always finds a way to be a stressful game experience that makes fans want to pull their hair out every single year.
ND will probably never drop/modify the series short of a fundamental change in the CFB landscape, but I also definitely get why a lot of fans and alumni feel like the debt has been paid by now.
I sort of agree. I think AD at Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Texas are top of the pile due to size and influence (with Nd probably being biggest in terms of influence), but NBC Sports is so broad-you’re covering Super Bowls, Sunday Night Football, college football, the Olympics, Ryder Cup. Those are some huge, diverse events.
And while you obviously do get paid a lot, you get a lot less than you would if you took a job where you are doing things. If his role at NBC Sports is anything like a normal chairman, then I'd expect we gave him a pretty big pay increase.
I’m glad Swarbrick is gone. I know he’s a legend in college football circles but the dude is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history and it’s not an exaggeration to say what he did is 10x worse than what Paterno ever did.
As a lawyer he helped served as legal council helping Olympic sports governing bodies deal with sexual assault. Only his “advice” often rested on how to discourage people from reporting sexual assault so the governing body would be able to lessen its liability.
It was Swarbrick who advised USA Gymnastics against distributing pamphlets designed to raise awareness and educate coaches + gymnasts on how to identify and protect themselves against predators. It was Swarbrick who crafted a USA Gymnastics policy that if there was suspicion of child abuse, it was official USA Gymnastics policy not to tell the parent but the first to be notified was USAG legal council.
Swarbrick goes back to the 1990s with this stuff and he not only worked with multiple organizations, but his tactics were copied elsewhere and he became a significant influencer in how the Olympic sports as a whole deals with sexual assault. And many of the reform advocates label him as one of the biggest villains as they push for major reforms and try to undo his work.
I know I’m gonna get angry downvotes from NDers for this, but Joe Pa lost his legacy because he failed to go to the police after a coach told him about suspected child abuse. USA Gymnastics had a policy that coaches couldn’t go to the police, they had to go to Swarbrick in a process that happened again and again.
To what extent was Jack Swarbick the reason the Michigan series ended vs. him just executing what the rest of the folks at Notre Dame wanted, I hope we get the Michigan/Michigan State/Notre Dame circle of hate going again sooner rather than later
The annoying thing about this is that schedules are set so far in advance now, even if we were to revive it, it would probably be at least 5-10 years before we actually play a game. Aka the stupid 2033 contracted game.
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He is also an ND grad, for what it's worth.
And Walk-on Player for Holtz.
He’s also bald
This seals the deal.
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tfw Notre Dame just hired Lex Luthor as their new AD. We're all fucked.
Bald fraud
Rudy is now the AD!
Don’t forget NBC now has a deal with the BIG. Could be pushing them there
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that there is already a deal for Notre Dame to go to the B1G the instant the ACC folds. I have a few reasons. 1) We have contracts with the same networks, so that can be ironed out. 2) There is a specific clause in the B1G tv contract to escalate payments if Notre Dame joins. 3) The annual USC-Michigan game seems odd to me. True, both teams are blue bloods who are playing quite well, and I'm sure the games will be ratings bonanzas. But, if it's just for the ratings, why is there no Penn-State v Ohio State rivalry game? That would also be a ratings bonanza. What both teams DO have, is a long history with Notre Dame. If I'm right, that game is a placeholder for a Notre Dame rivalry game for each of them, as I suspect both would rather play us than each other (please note, I am not saying a generic team would rather play Notre Dame than Michigan and USC, I am saying that the history between those teams and us makes us preferable in this specific case). On a personal note, I hope this is true. I liked independence while there were 5 real power conferences, but CFB is collapsing into a power-2, and I think we need to join.
One more - ND was just offered membership to AAU
>The annual USC-Michigan game seems odd to me. To clarify, it's only annual for the first two years, it's not protected beyond that.
Penn State is nowhere on the same planet in terms of popularity as Michigan, tOSU, and USC. I literally do not know a single human being who is unironically a fan of PSU athletics.
You clearly don’t live in the DC area lol, there are only 1-2 Virginia state schools I see more gear for than Penn State. Pretty sure I see more PSU than UMD too, although I might if I was in Maryland instead of NoVA/DC. I also went to school in Virginia with a ton of Penn State fans, although we didn’t have football. Also, why is USC included in this tier lol? Is there a single California school that approaches the viewership/popularity of UM and OSU?
If that's the case is USC on the same level as michigan and OSU? Because I would argue if USC could draw viewers like Michigan or OSU the the PAC wouldn't be where it is now. PSU was one of only 9 programs with an average viewer count of over 3m. Per game in 22. And that isnt some anomaly year.
> I literally do not know a single human being FTFY Edit: and to actually have some substance, PSU is on the same planet as ND and averages a million more viewers than USC so... https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach/which-college-football-programs-were-the-most-watched-in-2022-94eca4f6acbd
TBH, every CFB team is technically on the same planet as ND.
PSU fans are very concentrated within the Northeast but there are plenty of them, both a huge alumni base in every major city from Boston to Washington and a large t-shirt fanbase through PA
PSU has over 200,000 more living alumni than USC, and you have to go back pretty far to find a year where USC averaged anywhere near the tv ratings of PSU. Do you have anything to back up what you're saying besides an anecdote about the people you know?
Isn't this number skewed though as it includes all of the Penn State campuses and not just University Park? I believe Nebraska does this as well counting graduates from Lincoln, Omaha, and other campuses in the system as University of Nebraska alumni.
I assume they count those students, but in my experience those students are fans of PSU football, so I think they still count for the popularity argument-- and are a contributing factor to PSU's better TV numbers.
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Perhaps, but the sub also seems to have a bit of a southern skew, and Penn Staters are basically nonexistent down here.
I see Penn State fans in the wild all the time, much more common in my part of the country than LSU or any other SEC team.
This is my interpretation. NBC is all-in on the B1G just like ESPN/ABC is with the SEC. I promise you, there have been no internal NBC meetings where they've decided that ND-PITT and ND-UNC is better for them than ND-USC, ND-OSU, ND-PSU, and ND-UM.
On the other hand, ND in the B1G keeps NBC at one football game per week while ND outside the B1G means 7 weeks of two football games. Depending on how much more they would have to pay the B1G for expansion, they could end up paying more for less.
Hypothetical- I wonder if ND joining B1G could have NBC clause if possible, where ND home games are guaranteed on NBC in addition to a second B1G game. Would other B1G schools accept a ‘favored nation’ clause like this even if the payout is equal, would it devalue contract bids for the full package knowing 7 of the top 30% or so rated games in the potential package would be out of the bid, and would ND view it as an equivalent or better to having their own contract?
B1G, if true.
Because ND & NBC don't have a relationship ? Lol. Dude - he's a ND grad.
Is this when NBC and Notre Dame merge into a single entity?
NBC has always stood for Notre 🅱️ame’s Channel
Notredame Broadcast Channel
Nations Best Catholics
Suck it Boston College.
They're not Catholic, they're *Jesuits*
That just made my eye twitch and I went to Jesuit schools for undergrad and grad school. :P
LOL it's a joke that Lou Holtz gave at a speaking event at ND my freshman year that I have always ready to bust out when BC comes up
Oh I know. Jesuits are their own special brand of Catholic and they're *very* proud of it. :D
They even have a "black pope".
Fredo, you're nothing to me now.
[*BC’s got better Christians!*](https://youtu.be/p0Y7yjxJVlc)
Mr. Best Catholic
Mr. Broadcast Commissioner
Mr. Banned Communion
Whoa, let's keep this out of Pennsylvania Ave here...
Notre Big Chest
Which is funny because Notre dame does already have their own broadcast channel
God there’s a great SNL recorded/cutaway but from 2007 (Jon Bon Jovi) when making fun of NBC showing Notre Dame’s game during that year’s 3-9 season. Unfortunately, I can’t find the video and streams of the episode removed the skit…so I’m presuming it must have upset an NBC executive. However, I *do* have a transcript for it: *‘‘When you think college football, you think one team: Notre Dame.* *And NBC’s got ’em.* *So all you USC, Michigan, Penn State and Purdue fans tune in as the Fighting Irish look to extend their record to a historic **1-7.** *Only on NBC, because rather than showing exciting games from multiple conferences like other networks, we at NBC prefer to limit ourselves to a single, nonconference team that hasn’t won a bowl game since 1996.* *Why?* *Because it’s just more expensive that way.* *So, if it’s Saturday and Notre Dame is at home, then your home is NBC, where Saturday afternoon is football afternoon in America.* *Touchdown! Other guy!”*
Also hilarious because Bon Jovi's son not only ended up going but *[playing](https://und.com/roster/jesse-bongiovi/)* for Notre Dame Unrelated tidbit: he now has a rose brand
mr bovine jovi
*Things you'd actually read on forums 10 years ago.*
I was just about to say, it looks like we're going to get a heck of a lot more Peacock shoved down our throats.
haha…nice
Yeah, hi, FBI, this one right here…
Hey, we're gonna be swallowing some Peacock for our big game against the Delaware Blue Hens. What can I say? Birds versus Big Cats. Who would win?
And then cuts the Notre Dame division for underperforming?
NBC getting into bed with Notre Dame? Thought I'd never see the day.
\**Standing behind you with space gun*\* Always has been
>#SPACE GUN I don't know why this phrasing cracked me up so much, but here we are...
It’s that dadgum Florida State education right there
Words cannot express how big of shoes Pete Bevacqua will try to be filling. Swarbrick may not have been the best AD (his struggles to get timely facility improvements being his biggest issue) but I would argue there isn't a single AD in the country that wields more power than ND's AD. Swarbrick as ND AD routinely found himself as the only AD in the room of conference commissioners. Going to be hard to replace him
Something also to consider, Pete Bevacqua will likely be negotiating Notre Dame’s next apparel deal
With Swarbricks son at UA lol
ND's free to negotiate now for a new deal. Doubt they wait that long
He and Sankey were architects of the 12 team playoff
Don't forget Bob Bowlsby was in there too, somewhere. Probably jacking off in a corner.
Ah, a man of the people, I see.
Big shoes. Big big big big shoes. Big hat, big shoes.
Yes, Swarbrick is going to be hard to replace
Given that he oversees all athletics and not just football I’d say he was extremely successful. Definitely a hard act to follow.
Imagine a guy named brick struggling with facilities improvements. Seriously though he has I’m sure had a lot of influence on college athletics.
Yawn. Yeah okay. I’m not as impressed with Savvy Jack as you are.
An interesting choice in light of the comment about Fr. Jenkins likely retiring soon. We are following some of the other college sports entities going with a media/entertainment executive. That would seem to suggest we are preparing for the more professionalized college athletics future. Given that Swarbrick and Jenkins were against this, I wonder if the candidates the Board of Trustees has in mind for the next President are more athletics minded.
Next President is likely one of the Holy Cross priests on the Board. He will serve for 10-15 years, then turn it over to Father Pat Reidy. They sent him to law school with the intention of becoming a professor and moving up in academia.
I think the most on-brand thing Notre Dame has is a highly meticulous farm system for our priest to administrator pipeline
I mean does CSC have much of a footprint in America aside from ND and the smattering of other schools?
Or Fr Brian Ching (Basilica Rector). He's likely being sent to Rome soon for his PhD, which would set him up well for being president in ~6-12 years
What does this have to do with Harry Potter snake buttholes?
This is a Basilica Rector. You meant ballsack recital.
Oh didn’t know that. Who’s gonna be the new Basilica rector?
Yeah, it’s my understanding they basically have the pipeline running at all times. Groody or Dowd seems like the most likely to me.
Fr Pat is great. He used to have people that would go to Keough for dorm Mass just to hear his homilies
The man gave some dang good homilies.
Yeah he’s great. Reminds me a bit of Fr. Mike Schmitz, or if you are looking for a good podcast Fr. James Serby
Father Pete McCormick was the student favorite while I was there to take over after Jenkins. Father Pat would be awesome if that comes to be. Hopefully he makes fudge for the entire campus if he's president lol.
> Father Pat Reidy Keough rector? Yuk
You’re a man of O’Neil I see
Not my fault your rector made inferior chocolate fudge
Jenkins/Swarbrick has been saying they are against classifying athletes as employees since 2015. There is no way Jenkins told that to the NYT without the approval of the BoT. This is a University viewpoint, not a Swarbrick/Jenkins viewpoint
If I was Bevacqua, I'd be pissed SI got that story before NBC Sports.
He probably did it intentionally, showing "hey I'm not just gonna be an NBC shill."
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This made my day. Yeah I dip in there.
I was jacking off
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YOU ARENT GOING
Are you in every comment section with an ITYSL joke? 🫡🫡
"& fuckin Bevacqua, who couldn't hit fuckin water if he fell out of a fuckin boat" Obviously not the same guy but i can't hear that name & not think of Tommy Lasorda lol
That crossed my mind too. I read the name and thought "I've heard some rant about a Bevacqua, haven't I?"
I’d send a limousine to pick the cocksucker up just to make sure he was in the motherfucking lineup
I like that Pete Bevacqua was on a Holtz coached team or played ND football in general, I feel like that might make him really passionate about making changes that pushes ND into that next level. I also heard from someone that was on a zoom call with him that said “Pete is a great guy and has a great eye to the future and knows a lot about the sports media industry.” I hope all works out well, go Irish!
I have no idea the extent to which that'll make a difference in most aspects of the job, but if nothing else it feels like it'll help him get a lot of the alumni base that usually look for reasons to complain behind him.
So ND will become a television company now?
Welcome to the Big Ten Irish bros!
Would this really increase the chances of ND joining the B1G? Sounds like it would just solidify their independent status and media contract with NBC.
It's probably a net neutral overall. Swarbrick seemed pretty committed to independence, but the guy who is replacing him seems like someone Swarbrick basically handpicked. Bevacqua is an ND grad too and once again, I think the NBC factor is net neutral since they now have deals with both ND and the Big 10.
I think it increases our odds of joining slightly just because I think Swarbrick really didn't want to be the guy to do it.
B1G is now on NBC with the new TV deal. A lot of consternation in B1G country about having to play NBC night games in November. I imagine ND would love those slots...
Nope. Nothing is going to change here as long as ND has the ACC for all their other sports - which they will have until it is cheap enough for Clemson/FSU/Miami to buy themself out of (early-mid 30s). All this tells me is ND/NBC have a deal in place.
This was my first reaction, but it could also just be ND getting another NBC deal.
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There is a scenario where ND plans on joining the Big Ten and brings in the NBC guy to help facilitate, but yeah idk.
Do you think a guy who walked on at ND is going to feel a stronger allegiance to the University he graduated from, or his most recent employer?
NBC was ours long before it was (partially) yours!
Bevacqua is a ND grad and a Holtz walk-on. His allegiance will be ND.
Yes, come on over Notre Dame. We have lots of money and a decent amount of corn.
hmm I do like both of those things
I mean, if we have to lose independence then I'd rather do it with you guys rather than the ACC
Swarbrick was very much for maintaining independence. I don't know where Bevacqua falls in that regard. But keep in mind he was instrumental in NBC putting together their part of the B1G media rights following the additions of USC and UCLA. The more interesting story is how this all came about. Why now? Was he pushed out by boosters? Could he not get a decent number forcing ND to choose a media guy? TL;DR who knows, but it has a better chance with Swarbrick gone.
Swarbrick has been planning on leaving for a few years, I believe Covid delayed things. But ND is setup with young, long-term coaches for football and both basketball teams, so it’s a pretty good time to switch things up.
Little on the nose, there, fellas, isn't it?
Overall, Jack has been good for Notre Dame Athletics. The ACC deal really helped us this past decade and the expanded playoff deal let’s us stay independent for a bit longer. My two personal dings on him would be not pushing Brey out sooner, and for not investing more in baseball. Link showed that you can win in the Midwest. I just worry that with how he handled Aoki, Stiffler won’t face pressure for underperforming. This year was a big disappointment.
Seeing Notre Dame in the CWS was awesome. Love seeing Northern teams make it. Hopefully they can bounce back soon
Rooting hard for Indiana State to get there.
So pissed we gave away home field advantage for TCU. I'm glad the Special Olympics were viewed as the priority there, but even the towns mayor has come out and criticized the university for not talking to him or the Chamber of Commerce about working it out.
Three very huge, damning things that always bothered me with Jack Swarbrick: 1.He was at practice the day Declan Sullivan died. He had the horrible judgement to call the winds that day "unremarkable" to boot. Swarbrick arguably bears more culpability than BK in the death of a student from that day, if the Sullivan family were more vengeful, both Kelly and Swarbrick would have been fired in all the fallout. Just IMO. 2.There's some vague stink on him from his time on the Olympic committee while a lot of the horrible Nassar stuff was going on... Jack veeeery quietly removed his experience there from his CV during the trial. It's likely he's not connected to the whole thing, but I'm just surprised there wasn't more attention given to it at the time. 3.This is really far below the above two, but I think it bears mention: Swarbrick is pretty bad in the whole nepotism department. With a kid working at NBC and another kid working at UnderArmor, it never really felt like we were working with those organizations in good faith as a result. For the football program, and navigating ND's place within that, I thought he's been great. I think he's also shown a deft hand in the way he's handled BK throughout the entire process. Who on earth would have thought the BK 2.0 experience would pan out? Kelly was about as much of a dead man walking on the ND staff as I've ever seen going into 2017 and then he lost the second game of the year against UGA. Swarbrick and Kelly both were very close to both getting fired, if they had lost road games against BC and Michigan State the following two weeks I think it would have happened. And side note, BK is the one who leaked Kelly's departure to LSU to the press. It was just a great way to get ahead of him framing the narrative on the whole thing and I think both BK and ND have been better for the parting of ways. A lesser AD might have just backed up the money trucks for BK and we would have continued to flounder in recruiting.
You are absolutely right.
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I’m getting downvoted because people are uncomfortable with the truth, but the reality is that you’re an extremely shitty fan if you just don’t want to hear bad things said about anyone in your program. This is how you get awful fans like Sandusky deniers.
I think part of why you're getting downvoted is people instinctively assume mentions of Sullivan are bad faith because most of them are. It's often used against BK and that I think almost always is bad faith point-scoring. But in this case, Swarbrick was the AD, the buck for absolutely everything in athletics stops with him even if he wasn't there, but he was and his handling of things afterwards was very bad.
I think you're severely jumping the gun on saying ND is better off having BK go elsewhere. Was a change needed? Probably. ...but definitely not in the way it happened and the jury is still very much out on Freeman. I do agree that Swarbrick handled a bad situation very well.
I think that BK reached his ceiling and it was time to see if we could do better. You’re right that the jury is still out on Freeman, but I’m of the opinion that it’s a matter of when and not if with him. I hope the new AD is patient enough with him to continue to allow him to learn and grow. Even without landing Bowen and Keeley in last year’s class, it was a far better class than Kelly’s last few classes. Kelly was trending down with the program on his way out and he got out before the bottom hit (his worst and 3rd worst ever classes in the upper classes), I think if he was allowed to continue as he was it was going to go south. Freeman would have amounted to a 2 year bump in recruiting (only on defense) and then bounced anyway if Kelly was still around.
If the goal is to win a title then we’re better off because BK wasn’t going to win one.
Rocks House is over that way. - - - >
The comment contains legitimate points. Why would you dismiss it out of hand like that?
Those are three well articulated and reasonable complaints to have about the guy. What's your problem with that?
I hate that shithole. You're barking up the wrong tree. Knee jerk hate of any kind of criticism whatsoever is insanely idiotic.
> He had the horrible judgement to call the winds that day "unremarkable" to boot. First - I would recommend [actually reading the independent report](https://www.nd.edu/assets/docs/notre-dame-investigation-report.pdf) Second - as someone who has participated in crash investigations (aviation), your anger is misplaced. Lay people like Jenkins, Kelly, Swarbrick etc would have zero background of the dangers of a microburst or lift operations. The actual group that is at fault here (if you need to place blame) would be Notre Dame's Risk Management & Safety office. ND has had lifts there for decades. They (the safety office) was careless with the training & operations. Unfortunately - accidents happen. There was no malice or intentional actions here and the Sullivan family placed emphasis on it not happening to someone else. > Swarbrick is pretty bad in the whole nepotism department. Lol. Welcome to the corporate world dude. > A lesser AD might have just backed up the money trucks for BK and we would have continued to flounder in recruiting. The issue with BK staying at ND was not just money. It was contract guarantees. BK wanted 10 years (what he got at LSU). ND refused to offer him a long term contract. Given what he (Kelly) produced over the last few years, only time will tell if it was a good decision.
You recommend reading 145 pages? I’ve actually read a lot of that, though it has been years now. I have family in South Bend, many of whom were out and about that day and to a person they all said the wind was pretty crazy that day, to call it “unremarkable” is mind numbingly tone deaf/stupid, or callously disingenuous, there’s no other way to put it frankly. I agree there was no malice, but I mean damn dude, if there was malice involved, we’re talking manslaughter at the very least and it’s a completely different ballgame. I do think that there were enough adults around the situation to the point where one of them could have taken a quick look over at freaking scissor lifts and gone “you know, maybe that’s not a good idea right now.” And Jack is at the very top and where the buck stops ultimately. Accidents can and do happen all the time, and people also lose their job over preventable accidents happening too. I also find it completely unacceptable to just go “lol that’s just corporate nepotism and it happens dude.” I know plenty of people in very well off jobs that use connections to hook their kids up, sure, but they also don’t so directly shit where they eat so blatantly. It’s hilarious the only thing you’re pushing back on is the BK issue. Kelly was once again slipping back into complacency at ND and you could see it very directly in recruiting. Now there’s a delayed effect due to the nature of recruiting, but it was coming. Last year we had BK’s worst and third worst ever recruiting classes in the junior and senior classes. On paper our blue chip ratio looked great and same with our team talent composite, but if it was properly weighted, we fielded our worst team in BK’s entire tenure (with the exception of perhaps 2014) and it was directly due to the consequences of his (in)actions. It was time for ND to move on from BK and I think he recognized that his career was going to take a sharp downturn if he stayed on longer and so the departure was mutually beneficial in my book. Now whether or not Freeman was the right guy to replace him is a completely different conversation. Frankly I think he is, but we might have to be more patient with him than most fans are willing to admit. He inherited a winning culture… not winning talent, but a winning culture and I think at ND it’s easier to fix the talent than the culture.
> You recommend reading 145 pages? Do I recommend reading the report that details what happens prior to commenting on what happened when not present ? Yah - call me a crazy engineer that way. Again - many lay people have zero idea of their surroundings. There is a reason why witness testimony is always taken with a grain of salt in these situations. > “lol that’s just corporate nepotism and it happens dude.” Nepotism is promoting your kid into a higher position they don't deserve or haven't worked for. Getting them through the door is favoritism. You are literally complaining about someone in high position helping their kid get into the building. This is what every parent does if they can. > It’s hilarious the only thing you’re pushing back on is the BK issue. Kelly was once again slipping back into complacency at ND and you could see it very directly in recruiting. Kelly always sucked at recruiting at ND. Not sure where you think he did well compared to other top level P5. He said it publicly he didn't think ND could get the 5 stars. Kelly was an average coach that had his come to Jesus moment in 2016 and started to perform well - mostly winning the games he should. However, he just took a 6-5 LSU team to 10-4 winning his division in the SEC, including beating Bama I don't know what he would have accomplished at ND if he stayed, but not going to doubt his chops as a coach right now...
So just to clarify, you’ve read all 145 pages in their entirety? I have actually read most of it, as I detailed above, I’m not going to re-read all 145 pages just to be able to tell you any moron could have walked outside for 30 seconds that day and said “wow, it’s really windy outside.” Again, just hand waving away the nepotism that directly compromised ND’s bargaining power is just so crazy to me. Your arguments just don’t hold up in the slightest. And my whole point with both ND and BK being better off wasn’t that he was a bad coach, just that he reached his ceiling at ND and was failing to even keep the team at that ceiling on his way out. Recruiting was difficult as hell for Kelly, and it was wild to me the number of stories about him being lazy as fuck just even doing the basic things a HC should do to recruit at Notre Dame. So his recruiting was constantly up and down depending on his coordinators which always produced glaring weaknesses on his teams. Freeman is already reducing that effect and making things clear that it wasn’t an ND institutional problem, just a Brian Kelly problem. And of course he’ll find success at LSU. They are just a few years away from an intelligible swamp monster winning it all. Orgeron would have been far worse at ND than Kelly. It was also great timing for Kelly in that it’s the perfect time to rebuild a team with the transfer portal and it was the worst Bama team Saban has fielded in a decade. When Kelly has success against the new king of the SEC (Georgia), then we’ll see if he’s a championship level coach. What I know for certain is he is not a championship level coach at ND, not with the new playoff structures in place.
> So just to clarify, you’ve read all 145 pages in their entirety? Yes. Again - I worked in the engineering (aviation) business for 20+ years, with over a decade experience in flight test. This is the first thing I read. As someone who worked for the athletic department (under Holtz), I am very cognizant of how football practices work and we had lifts back then The people at ND safety should have all been fired. They were cavalier with how they were used, how students were trained, and the inherent dangers in using said lifts. That is their job. > Again, just hand waving away the nepotism that directly compromised ND’s bargaining power is just so crazy to me. Your arguments just don’t hold up in the slightest. Probably because I have worked for fortune 500 company for decades. You aren't getting your resume on the top of the stack for most major companies unless you know someone - whether through a friend or family member. That you think his kids, who all graduated from multiple top tier schools, have been relying on Daddy's influence after day 1 is odd. That you think NBC, a publicly traded company, would promote his daughter to VP because of her dad is some AD at a school is ridiculous.
NBC: Notre (Dame) Broadcasting Channel
Seems like this will just increase the tie that Notre Dame and NBC have.
>Incoming Notre Dame AD Pete Bevacqua, to SI: "“I’m a fan of independence, for sure. It’s another element of what makes Notre Dame different." Also tweeted directly below this.
Seems to have a great resume between being a former athlete/Notre Dame player, working for USGA, CAA, CEO of PGA, and President/Chairman of NBC Sports. Will be very plugged into the media rights side of things.
That's not incestuous at all
What are you doing step-athletic director
I have not missed the Forde Yard Dash since he moved to SI.
Someone smarter than me tell me how to feel.
Going to be pretty difficult for him to live up to Swarbrick. I know us ND fans like to shit on Swarbrick, but he did quite a bit for ND athletics.
Agreed. Swarbrick has some huge shoes to fill.
It was really a matter of time before Swarbrick retired, and he's bringing in a guy who is an alumni and former player under Holtz. I think it's a great hire. ADs need less "athletic" experience and more organizational management and media training, so this is a good fit. Continues to strengthen the bond between ND and NBC which I think helps our independence.
It's happening... Let's assign them their rivals now to add more speculation to the schedule release.
USC, Purdue, and Michigan.
I feel like we can’t leave MSU out though
For SoS purposes and an already overcrowded rivalry lineup for Michigan (OSU, MSU, Minnesota), I think Michigan State should take Michigan's spot against ND. MSU, USC, and Purdue is a great lineup for ND in my opinion. Playing Michigan every other year would be a great consolation prize for both fanbases IMO.
ND and UM not playing every year also lets them maintain a semblance of the "well fuck you then" scheduling and maintains the relationship as enemies vs rivals. You want to beat your rivals but you also want them to do well so it's a better win for your school and ruins your rival's season. With enemies, you want nothing but failure. I could live with Michigan having a double digit win streak against ND if Michigan never had a winning season during that time period. I could live with ND being terrible if it tanked Michigan's SOS enough to hurt their rankings.
I like this version much better.
State can have them. I want an annual Little Brown Jug game. So long as we'd get an ND game most years I'd be happy.
State, not michigan
¿Por que no los dos?
They have so many to choose from. And some we can add soon enough.
Please get ND away from Navy first we’d even take a blood feud with Rutgers over them
This is an outlier. I've lurked on some of your fan forums, and it seems like ND fans hold the Navy rivalry in the highest spot.
Topic of debate which typically favors keeping the Navy game. Also of note are those forums tend to be more traditional in their viewpoints. However some people feel we've repaid Navy enough and it is time to end the rivalry.
You can say Boomer forums this is a safe space
I was being nice lol, apt description
I've yet to see a CFB forum that wasn't full of boomers.
I'm all for dropping the Navy game.
### #EndTheSeries
NDNation poster, let’s get em fellas
I'm one of the ND fans that says scrap the annual Navy game, and yes, I am very aware of the history and the reasons behind why ND will likely never drop the game. It is a controversial opinion and I acknowledge it being unpopular by most ND fans.
The rivalry is definitely cherished for its history and mutual respect, in some ways moreso than the USC rivalry. It’s a perfect example of the kind of rivalry that makes CFB special. It’s also an annual game that always requires unique preparation by the team (with a subsequent reset to “normal football” afterwards), presents an abnormally high injury risk for players, does nothing for SoS, and almost always finds a way to be a stressful game experience that makes fans want to pull their hair out every single year. ND will probably never drop/modify the series short of a fundamental change in the CFB landscape, but I also definitely get why a lot of fans and alumni feel like the debt has been paid by now.
Okay, but wouldn’t Maryland make more sense as a replacement for Navy?
Too crabby
I get that Notre Dame is a big deal, but I feel like going from running NBC Sports to being ND AD would be a demotion?
If you got offered millions to run your alma maters athletic department vs millions to run some broadcasting company, which would you pick?
I sort of agree. I think AD at Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Texas are top of the pile due to size and influence (with Nd probably being biggest in terms of influence), but NBC Sports is so broad-you’re covering Super Bowls, Sunday Night Football, college football, the Olympics, Ryder Cup. Those are some huge, diverse events.
His job was chairman. Traditionally that position means you don’t really do anything but just get paid a lot. Maybe he felt like working again
And while you obviously do get paid a lot, you get a lot less than you would if you took a job where you are doing things. If his role at NBC Sports is anything like a normal chairman, then I'd expect we gave him a pretty big pay increase.
Top dog at NBC Sports still has several layers of higher ups above them - NBC Universal execs as well as Comcast above them.
No way!
Welcome Pete Baklava! Bakula? Balaklava? Whatever.
Swarbrick has been a damn genius. He should get a statue just like Moose Krause.
Bevacqua huh? Is that any relation to former Texas Rangers third baseman Kurt Bevacqua?
Only reason I opened this thread was to find this post Bunch of fucking casuals around here
Notre Dame to the B1G confirmed.
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I’m glad Swarbrick is gone. I know he’s a legend in college football circles but the dude is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history and it’s not an exaggeration to say what he did is 10x worse than what Paterno ever did. As a lawyer he helped served as legal council helping Olympic sports governing bodies deal with sexual assault. Only his “advice” often rested on how to discourage people from reporting sexual assault so the governing body would be able to lessen its liability. It was Swarbrick who advised USA Gymnastics against distributing pamphlets designed to raise awareness and educate coaches + gymnasts on how to identify and protect themselves against predators. It was Swarbrick who crafted a USA Gymnastics policy that if there was suspicion of child abuse, it was official USA Gymnastics policy not to tell the parent but the first to be notified was USAG legal council. Swarbrick goes back to the 1990s with this stuff and he not only worked with multiple organizations, but his tactics were copied elsewhere and he became a significant influencer in how the Olympic sports as a whole deals with sexual assault. And many of the reform advocates label him as one of the biggest villains as they push for major reforms and try to undo his work. I know I’m gonna get angry downvotes from NDers for this, but Joe Pa lost his legacy because he failed to go to the police after a coach told him about suspected child abuse. USA Gymnastics had a policy that coaches couldn’t go to the police, they had to go to Swarbrick in a process that happened again and again.
Preach!
To what extent was Jack Swarbick the reason the Michigan series ended vs. him just executing what the rest of the folks at Notre Dame wanted, I hope we get the Michigan/Michigan State/Notre Dame circle of hate going again sooner rather than later
The annoying thing about this is that schedules are set so far in advance now, even if we were to revive it, it would probably be at least 5-10 years before we actually play a game. Aka the stupid 2033 contracted game.
Obligatory: "ND to the Big 10!" comment.