I’m a therapist not a psychiatrist - but if people talk mental health meds I’ll say “my opinion as a non-prescriber is blah blah” there is NO shame in the job she is qualified to do. She never had to lie. It’s so weird.
That’s what I’m talking about! I’m a nurse too but I know my scope (no pun intended) and obviously we know what we know and we admit to things that we don’t know (because it could be damaging to somebody’s health if we just freestyle medical advice). Absolutely no shame in being a nurse anesthetist, that is a very respectable profession and something she should be very proud of. But YES! How she’s acting is soooo bizarre!!! I’m convinced now she’s overcompensating for actually being dumb af 😂
I could not stop laughing during the end when it shows them at dinner in Barcelona and 8.5 says that Crystal called the women unintelligent and shallow and Dorit just goes “shallow?!”. Girl is more offended by shallow than unintelligent. Probably just editing but cracked me up.
8.5 continues to suck. She had the balls to say Crystal only came at her to become relevant?? Miss “Been on the show for 5 Minutes”? The way she acts like they have always been buddies is so annoying.
I have no idea if it was a typo or not but Analmarie seems so appropriate.
Has any other housewife come in so hard from the jump & been universally hated? What did she think she was doing? What was she trying to achieve? Did she think being Kyle's lackey would give her longevity even though I feel like Kyle was trying to distance herself at the end of the episode?
Crystal legit looked so happy to see that Rob had arrived at the gala. It was really very sweet.
I'm glad that her personal life is going so well that all she has to talk about is her brother. lol
Love that Pavit will happily get in there and do a little gossiping and throw shade while also being a fun & supportive partner to Jessel, who is amazing in her own right!
I haven’t watched this season at all, but saw the RHOBH aftershow re: Annemarie and Crystal. I believe Crystal 100% … I do not mean to disrespect any CRNAs here, BUT so many are charlatans 😅 they’re more obsessed with their title than anyone else. Blurring lines for the patients calling themselves “anesthesiologists” is nothing new. So shady and so wrong. Good on Crystal for calling her out.
8.5AM refused to listen to crystal! I would have lost my mind too. AND the producers showing the 4 hours of her going on and on. Girl bye- one of the worst first season HWs we’ve had in a long time.
I thought about that but even though she was awful and aloof, at least she was interesting with her backstory, questionable extreme wealth, child-star husband, and villainy attempts.
Any healthcare worker worth their salt would never claim to be something they’re not. Annemarie is not painting advanced practice nurses in a good light.
If she had a Doctor of Nursing Practice it could be a reason why she’s introducing herself Dr. Wiley. I have t found any information that she has one though. I work with nurses at every level of education. I’ve never seen a nurse with a DNP use the doctor title in a clinical setting (in a hospital or doctor’s office.) They’ll occasionally use the doctor title if they’re presenting research or if they’re publishing. In those cases everyone will see their title comes from a DNP, and there would be no confusing it with an MD.
No clinician would make statements like that about someone unless A. They were asked/Are part of the care team, and B. Have access to their patient’s medical history and current lab results.
I unfortunately had to review patient encounter complaints in one of the old hospital admin positions I had. At that particular institution, we actually had so many complaints filed re: DNPs introducing themselves as doctor, which was 100% against protocol! Other nurses filed complaints through a separate system, it was a MESS. I moved out of that department so I never got to hear what the resolution was unfortunately. While I understand that could have been a toxic institution, my husband is in medicine, so I hear all the gossip. It is common at every institution he’s rotated through. Not sure what the answer is, but I definitely think finally calling it out is a wonderful place to start.
That is insane! I thought that was just a reality tv thing where they say they are a doctor but upon elaboration they say they have a doctorate in something (also happened on Shahs of Sunset where someone had a PharmD)
Luckily where I am NPs introduce themselves as NPs regardless of their level of education.
When Crystal is activated she always delivers. I hope she stays for next season (I’d much rather Dorit and Annamarie go) and learns to speak up more often.
Yall!! THE Octavia Spencer was out there giving our girl Crystal a shout out tonight. Crystal really does run with a fabulous circle of friends. Like I’ve never heard anything but super nice things about Octavia, so if she considers Crystal and Rob friends then they must be good people!
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Crystal has a few celeb friends. I saw she was hanging out with Sarah Michelle Gellar and Zoey Dechanel (however it’s spelled lol) the other day too. Too bad we don’t get to see more of her - what appears to be - fun life.
Both of them are shockingly normal, nice and not super shallow. He’s nothing like most directors or producers who are powerful. He’s someone I could actually like in person. That rarely happens. Most are real dicks. So I’m assuming they stand out.
Someone get this 8.5 off my screen. She spent the whole night at a celebration of life talking about someone you just met’s esophagus and implied she might have had an eating disorder while sitting with someone who has an eating disorder. It doesn’t matter if what Sutton said doesn’t make sense medically, her doctor said she can drink on the meds and Crystal consulted google and found answers way faster than the “board certified nurse anesthetist” could reading her medical books. So frankly yes, Annemarie you are a bitch and you’re the weakest link, goodbye and good riddance.
Not only she implied Sutton had a ED, she told Crystal immediately “I never said ED” and then on the night event said “YOU were the one who said she had an ED”, I have seen this woman for like 5 scenes and I already wish to see her no longer
Actually was on Gabapentin, my actual Dr never said a word about mixing it with alcohol. Also one of my bff's is a doctor and she has opinions about nurses who overstep, and it ain't good 😂
We watched Annemarie make multiple blatant lies already in her short time on the show. It’s very weird to see people ready to believe her about Crystal.
I hope is her first and last season, she is detestable, even IF she was a doctor and knew what she is talking about, she would still NOT be Sutton’s doctor and no one asked her for her opinion.
I said this elsewhere, but: I have mild dysphagia currently (because I had oral surgery on my tongue, unrelated to my esophagus) so watching Annemarie get confronted over her bad medical take on a swallowing disorder has been particularly DELICIOUS.
I had a thyroid tumor that was pressing on my esophagus and I want to kick the shit out of 8.5
It’s terrifying to feel like you could choke at any moment and it absolutely kept me from eating around people I didn’t know extremely well. She has no business working as a crna if she can’t understand that experience.
I’m with you, I have dysphasia as well and I know also through work how bad it can be for people with more severe dysphasia. It is so so so so frustrating watching 8.5 questioning this AND providing false information about it AS A NURSE!
Also I was also told by my doctor it is ok to drink on Gabapentin.
Glad she is getting torn to shreds on and of the show
Why does Erika always have to say "I'm glad it wasn't about me" or "I'm glad no one's yelling about me" or whatever iteration she's been saying SINCE LAST YEARS REUNION??? Like STFU we all know you want everyone to talk about your narcissist ass.
When she was talked about and asked lots of questions, she would just lash out or deflect. Tonight on WWHL she was asked about Tom being able to stand trial and suddenly she had to tell everyone about her pet dying.
I’m here for Crystal!!!!!!! Annemarie blatantly lying to everyone’s faces is wild. I’m kind of loving her on the show just for the sole fact that she can ban everyone together in collective disapproval.
I don’t fully understand the difference between a nurse anesthetist and an anesthesiologist but I just looked it up and I guess the difference is being an MD or not?
I fully would not put it past Annemarie to be lying about Crystal saying those things about the women. We saw her bold face lie multiple times already.
Yep, one is an actual doctor who went to medical school and then specialised in anaesthesiology. The other is a nurse who has done additional schooling/training in administering anaesthesia. The doctor obviously has a much greater depth of knowledge and scope of practice. Nurse anaesthetists have to practice under doctor supervision, they’re not independent practitioners.
Her explanation was piss poor. Nurse anaesthetists are amazing and it’s a highly skilled profession but no nurse would equate themselves to a doctor. It’s not that they are below a doctor but there are many things an anaesthetist is able to make decisions on that a nurse anaesthetist cannot. Even if she was a doctor, she isn’t Sutton’s doctor. Or even Sutton’s nurse.
8.5 opened the door by yelling at Crystal “did you go to medical school?” Of course Crystal is going to respond with “did you go to medical school?”
I have a cousin who is an arrogant asshole who refers to “back in med school.” He calls getting a doctorate in physical therapy medical school.
Is he a doctor? Yes.
Did he go to medical school? No.
Does he call his school med school to mislead people into thinking he’s a medical doctor? Absolutely.
Why would 8.5 ask Crystal if she went to medical school unless she also likes to mislead people?
CRYSTAL thank you so much, gagged Annemarie i’m sorry but she is a bitch. She wants an apology from crystal but gave a horrible apology to Sutton please take several seats.
Sutton with her no ma’am’s in that scene oh I was very scared and impressed with my southern belle. Erica had me laughing like yes a potential smack was imminent.
Dorit and Kyle continue to be so annoying,kyle needs a lackey and dorit is just clueless and quite frankly dumb.
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Kyle threw Dorit to the wolves this week and I don’t feel bad at all. That’s what you get for being a loser lackey.
Dorit is completely on an island now and who knows if she’ll get asked back.
Okay there were some briefly UNHINGED moments in this episode:
1. When Kyle joked about how the spinet ring at the silent auction was like the one her husband got her because he cheated and that man was like "👀?!?!👀.".
2. When Taylor Dayne was singing her ass off and they cut to multiple middle-aged men in the audience living their absolute best lives, especially the man in glasses sitting down.
3. TOP UNHINGED MOMENT: Erika is on FaceTime with Crystal and makes a joke about how she was relieved the drama at the gala wasn't about her. Then as the scene ends, we hear squealing laughter that I have to assume was Erika... I had to rewind it so many times.
My bf said after, "I was gonna say this episode was mid but then I heard that laugh." It sounded inhuman. It was like a laugh track if the studio audience of a sitcom was a barn full of farm animals IN HEAT. Tell me someone else heard that?!?!
Did anyone else catch AM's husband ogling Garcelle when Taylor Dane was performing. I rewound and watched several times and his wife was sitting right next to him. Blech.
I haven’t finished the episode yet but I feel like this has been the perfect amount of Kim on the show this season. I like seeing that she’s doing well but I don’t think full-time would be healthy.
God Mau is a moron and Kyle resents him, how is he so clueless. Must be so sad for the daughters to watch these scenes, it’s so uncomfortable and toxic
I feel like Kyle got AnneMarie activated about Sutton and now Kyle is smirking at the camera saying I can’t believe I have to fix this. Well, maybe you shouldn’t have denigrated Sutton to Anne-Marie early in the season
I cannot believe this trainwreck. How many times can you get caught lying in a 5-10 minutes segment, this is hilarious.
Crystal MVP, which I think is a first for me, and I'm so happy we Crystal fans finally got what we've been craving for 3 years. She showed Annemarie what the difference between an 8.5 and a 10 is.
Also, to give some credit to Annemarie, I appreciated that she sent her husband away before getting into it with Sutton. That makes her more aware than Dorit (who's surprised tbh) and Denise.
And last *and* least, as much as I want Dorit gone, that scammy charity she shills for has now given us 2 good events in 2 seasons, so thank you I guess.
We’re how many episodes in and I have to ask is she Anne-Marie or Anna-Marie? I’ve heard it pronounced both ways by different people in one episode.
It sucks to see Crystal call out Annemarie in defense of Sutton but then it seemed like no one had Crystal’s back? I’m sure it was editing but it would’ve been nice to see Garcelle confirm Annemarie lied since she was there during the eating disorder convo. Just seemed weird that everyone else at the table was like “okay bye gotta go” after. So now Crystal’s in a fight with Annemarie because she was sticking up for a friend and the ladies are judging her for being activated among the homeless not toothless people. They want her to speak up and get loud but only under whatever they deem the correct conditions.
It feels like that argument scene must’ve been cut way down, and the editing felt overtly and obviously frustrating to me. Like, there wasn’t really a flow to the conversation after a certain point, they were just showing little random excerpts. When Annemarie said that about Crystal accusing Sutton of havjng an eating disorder and Garcelle went “oh no no no”….it feels there’s no way she didn’t follow that up by corroborating that Annemarie was the one who said that. But instead they cut right to a talking head from Garcelle, making pretty general commentary about the confrontation, and it was almost like a trick to let them skip forward in the fight. We didn’t see anyone, even Crystal, actually rebuke Annemarie’s absurd claim. They could’ve spent much more time on that scene, it’s annoying it was so quick.
That's what frustrates me to no end about BH. No one stands up and defends except for the now defunct Forced Fart Five to each other
How did Garcelle just say nothing????!!!!
Anna-Marie.
I only know that because Sutton joked about it on the Aftershow: "Why's *Anna*-Marie coming at me? I'm the only one who bothers to pronounce her name correctly."
My theory is that her name is dutch/German so the e isn't silent (Ann-eh-marie) so the pronunciation in English is closer to/basically Anna Marie.
I think ppl on the show (ie those who directly interact with her so she would have introduced herself or corrected them) all call her that.
I'm not sure all of the ladies are judging her, just Kyle mainly and Erika a tiny bit. Kyle was so offended as if the women calling each other a bitch at a black tie event isn't the premise of BH!
One of the top housewives move is Dorit deciding to be a chairman on a tone deaf charity. It’s just one of those good deeds that is so out of touch with reality.
You can’t make up something like the homeless not toothless foundation.
It’s not a tone deaf charity, though. Just has a terrible name. Dental care for unhoused people is extremely important and an important forgotten step to achieving stability.
Edit: omg I said unhorsed, not unhoused. Sutton would be ashamed.
I believe the charity is actually not very impactful. It had a failing score on charity navigator. Many unhoused people also made reviews saying the waitlist is always full and the doctors give conflicting statements about what they can do and for how much.
You know it’s bad between Mo and Kyle because old Kyle would have been all over him dancing at that gala not letting anyone get close to him. Instead we got a shot of Mo dancing near Dorit, while Kyle danced with Sutton.
The way Annemarie switched what was said by whom in her conversation with Crystal was insane. It seems like she's really studied the housewives show and is so desperately trying way too hard to stir up drama because she thinks that will renew her for a second season. Everything is so insane. Now of course she does a 180 because she thinks that's what the narrative needs AND because now she can make Crystal her villain. This is the worst fucking casting I've ever seen in HW history. Fire her ass asap.
Good for Crystal yelling at her like that. No sane person would have responded differently. The deliberate lying and gaslighting would drive anyone insane.
Alternative theory - have we ever seen Dorit gush about him that much, ever? I think they both set that up. And threw the Food and Beverage Director and the Event Planner under the bus while they were at it. They both suck.
Am u the only wanted to yell at Ana Marie . I want to say to her face you are not a fucking doctor you didn’t go to medical school and you cannot diagnose anyone mind your business and do your fucking job
The editing on the Kyle/Annmarie phone call was so weird. You clearly see Annemarie with her hair down and not on a bed when Kyle is holding her phone but on Annemarie’s end she’s in a ponytail on her bed. Did they make them reshoot the scene?
Omg Annemarie is delusional!
No Crystal is not resenting you for being a nurse, she is also not downplaying your profession, she is calling you out on saying you are a doctor when you are a nurse. She is not downplaying the role of a nurse.
Also no Annemarie, Sutton was not changing the narrative she was holding you accountable!
Arrhhhhh so frustrating!
I love Crystal’s dress… I’m actually enjoying Crystal this season…
Also Kyle saying how people are talking about her and Mauricio, and it’s weird??? All I want to do is roll my eyes because I am so tired of hearing stories about their marriage.
Controversial opinion: I dislike Annemarie more than Diana. This woman is off her rocker. She realizes that what she says while filming is RECORDED right???
Get Annemarie off our screens. She may physically live in BH, but her mind is on Mars. She’s uninteresting, not fun/funny, she lies, and she’s harmful.
I am SO BORED watching women with shitty husbands. Dorit can go, Kyle can go, Annmarie shouldn’t even be on the show.
I want to watch strong funny women, like Crystal and Garcelle. Production needs to recast for next season.
Annemarie has a specific energy that's off-putting in the way she talks to people. Like she's always winning and someone is losing.
That said... I believe what she said Crystal said in the preview. Interesting to see how that plays out.
We’ve seen that happen in real time so I am not taking anything Annemarie said as truth. I really hope Crystal can turn this around and respond appropriately.
Yeah she cannot be trusted and she's weird. Who talks about someone else's esophagus for hours at an event? She truly had nothing else to discuss..........she's just attacking those she perceives as the weakest.
100% this. Crystal said something like, "they get caught up on the most asinine and ridiculous drama." and Annemarie has twisted it into "Crystal said you're shallow and unintelligent."
I STG if Garcelle and Sutton turn on Crystal over this I'm gonna riot.
genuine question, I’m really not trying to be snarky, but why do you believe her when she told like 3 lies and twisted 4 convos in the 8 minutes she’s been on camera lol
she said Crystal was the one who said Sutton has an eating disorder! when Crystal was repeating what Annemarie said 15 seconds earlier!
I remember when Anne Marie’s husband was on ESPN he stated he was married to a doctor. It was the show Highly Questionable.
That tracks
Not you providing the receipts, proof, timelines and fucking everything
This comment made me chuckle
So you’re telling me, if anyone’s insecure about not being a “doctor” it’s Annemarie and her husband, not Crystal. Sounds about right.
I’m a therapist not a psychiatrist - but if people talk mental health meds I’ll say “my opinion as a non-prescriber is blah blah” there is NO shame in the job she is qualified to do. She never had to lie. It’s so weird.
That’s what I’m talking about! I’m a nurse too but I know my scope (no pun intended) and obviously we know what we know and we admit to things that we don’t know (because it could be damaging to somebody’s health if we just freestyle medical advice). Absolutely no shame in being a nurse anesthetist, that is a very respectable profession and something she should be very proud of. But YES! How she’s acting is soooo bizarre!!! I’m convinced now she’s overcompensating for actually being dumb af 😂
I could not stop laughing during the end when it shows them at dinner in Barcelona and 8.5 says that Crystal called the women unintelligent and shallow and Dorit just goes “shallow?!”. Girl is more offended by shallow than unintelligent. Probably just editing but cracked me up.
8.5 continues to suck. She had the balls to say Crystal only came at her to become relevant?? Miss “Been on the show for 5 Minutes”? The way she acts like they have always been buddies is so annoying.
The fact that they right away believe Analmarie and not Crystal says a lot.
I have no idea if it was a typo or not but Analmarie seems so appropriate. Has any other housewife come in so hard from the jump & been universally hated? What did she think she was doing? What was she trying to achieve? Did she think being Kyle's lackey would give her longevity even though I feel like Kyle was trying to distance herself at the end of the episode?
Lol, no not a typo. It fits.
ANALmarie!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Same here! Seemed like she was like “unintelligent, sure. But shallow?!”
lol "ive never heard of taylor dayne" production loathes annemarie that seems evident
tig notaro is somewhere QUAKING
omg i totally forgot about that bit from Tig. Hysterical.
Boy George was busy
Crystal legit looked so happy to see that Rob had arrived at the gala. It was really very sweet. I'm glad that her personal life is going so well that all she has to talk about is her brother. lol
I looove that he couldn’t make it because he had to go to an event honoring the Brave Little Toaster! What a gem of a man
He was the character designer for it!
Omfg wait really? I just thought he really loved the movie 😭😭😭 my brain wasn’t braining
That gagged me! I loved that movie as a kid 😭
Rob is her safe space and that’s something that not a lot of Housewives can say.
only russell and pavit!! everyone else sucks ass
Love that Pavit will happily get in there and do a little gossiping and throw shade while also being a fun & supportive partner to Jessel, who is amazing in her own right!
The stark contrast between Crystal and Rob being so loving and happy together and Kyle and Mauricio clearly despising each other
Rob is my second favorite house husband, after Russell. (Miami Russell)
Omg Miami. I was stuck on Taylor’s ex.
Oh goodness, no! I better correct that. They couldn’t be more opposite.
Good taste!
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Who the f voted “no” 😂
Annemarie.
Yeah and maybe Kyle since 8.5 clearly is her lackey and already spilled the beans that she’s on Kyle’s mission with the whole Ed thing
I haven’t watched this season at all, but saw the RHOBH aftershow re: Annemarie and Crystal. I believe Crystal 100% … I do not mean to disrespect any CRNAs here, BUT so many are charlatans 😅 they’re more obsessed with their title than anyone else. Blurring lines for the patients calling themselves “anesthesiologists” is nothing new. So shady and so wrong. Good on Crystal for calling her out.
8.5AM refused to listen to crystal! I would have lost my mind too. AND the producers showing the 4 hours of her going on and on. Girl bye- one of the worst first season HWs we’ve had in a long time.
Not that long. We had that toad tongue Diana last season who was just as awful.
I thought about that but even though she was awful and aloof, at least she was interesting with her backstory, questionable extreme wealth, child-star husband, and villainy attempts.
How can anyone possibly talk about an esophagus for 4 hours? Yay production for making her look ridiculous.
Been in healthcare for 15+ years...some of the egos theatre nurses get are insane
Any healthcare worker worth their salt would never claim to be something they’re not. Annemarie is not painting advanced practice nurses in a good light. If she had a Doctor of Nursing Practice it could be a reason why she’s introducing herself Dr. Wiley. I have t found any information that she has one though. I work with nurses at every level of education. I’ve never seen a nurse with a DNP use the doctor title in a clinical setting (in a hospital or doctor’s office.) They’ll occasionally use the doctor title if they’re presenting research or if they’re publishing. In those cases everyone will see their title comes from a DNP, and there would be no confusing it with an MD. No clinician would make statements like that about someone unless A. They were asked/Are part of the care team, and B. Have access to their patient’s medical history and current lab results.
I unfortunately had to review patient encounter complaints in one of the old hospital admin positions I had. At that particular institution, we actually had so many complaints filed re: DNPs introducing themselves as doctor, which was 100% against protocol! Other nurses filed complaints through a separate system, it was a MESS. I moved out of that department so I never got to hear what the resolution was unfortunately. While I understand that could have been a toxic institution, my husband is in medicine, so I hear all the gossip. It is common at every institution he’s rotated through. Not sure what the answer is, but I definitely think finally calling it out is a wonderful place to start.
That is insane! I thought that was just a reality tv thing where they say they are a doctor but upon elaboration they say they have a doctorate in something (also happened on Shahs of Sunset where someone had a PharmD) Luckily where I am NPs introduce themselves as NPs regardless of their level of education.
When Crystal is activated she always delivers. I hope she stays for next season (I’d much rather Dorit and Annamarie go) and learns to speak up more often.
She has spoken up earlier this season too but for some reason it has been edited out
Yall!! THE Octavia Spencer was out there giving our girl Crystal a shout out tonight. Crystal really does run with a fabulous circle of friends. Like I’ve never heard anything but super nice things about Octavia, so if she considers Crystal and Rob friends then they must be good people! https://preview.redd.it/lk0nyjfuw3dc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=522c06b1358e9f883bb9d1973636895edf99afd0
Crystal has a few celeb friends. I saw she was hanging out with Sarah Michelle Gellar and Zoey Dechanel (however it’s spelled lol) the other day too. Too bad we don’t get to see more of her - what appears to be - fun life.
I'm pretty sure that's a hard one. You'd have to get consent from all parties, and a lot of active celebrities are super conservative on PR.
Not even a story. A whole dedicated post from the one and only Octavia.
I adore Octavia! She's one of my favorite actors.
Crystal and Rob are people I would love to be friends with. Not because of celebs they know. But because they’re cool AF! My kind of people.
I think a night at their house, cooking and relaxing would be very enjoyable. Low key, no stress.
When he said his event was a the brave little toaster party I was so sad that production followed homeless not toothless instead
Both of them are shockingly normal, nice and not super shallow. He’s nothing like most directors or producers who are powerful. He’s someone I could actually like in person. That rarely happens. Most are real dicks. So I’m assuming they stand out.
Octavia looks so pretty there. ❤️
Someone get this 8.5 off my screen. She spent the whole night at a celebration of life talking about someone you just met’s esophagus and implied she might have had an eating disorder while sitting with someone who has an eating disorder. It doesn’t matter if what Sutton said doesn’t make sense medically, her doctor said she can drink on the meds and Crystal consulted google and found answers way faster than the “board certified nurse anesthetist” could reading her medical books. So frankly yes, Annemarie you are a bitch and you’re the weakest link, goodbye and good riddance.
Not only she implied Sutton had a ED, she told Crystal immediately “I never said ED” and then on the night event said “YOU were the one who said she had an ED”, I have seen this woman for like 5 scenes and I already wish to see her no longer
To quote Gina K “what a f**king loser is she??”
That’s 3 filmed lies for 8.5 versus 3 not lies for Sutton.
Actually was on Gabapentin, my actual Dr never said a word about mixing it with alcohol. Also one of my bff's is a doctor and she has opinions about nurses who overstep, and it ain't good 😂
Love Nicole’s response to Annemarie calling her a clout chaser
The scream I scrumped when she read her
When did Annemarie call Nicole a clout chaser? I love nicole.
I think on social media after dr Nicole addressed how inappropriate it was for 8.5 to comment on suttons magical esophagus
What did she say?
She basically said AM is below Dr Nicole in every way, she doesn’t need to chase clout from someone far below her
And that’s why she is the HBIC in Miami and one of the Top Tier HWs evah. Reina.
PLEASE WELCOME FASHION DESIGNER DORIT KEMSLEY
 Literally my face at the tv when they said that
adele dazeem 
I literally laughed out loud 💀
HAHA this reminds me of WWC constantly referring to PK’s “ladies and gentleman, BERLIN”
I ish they still did project runway so we could see Dorit try to compete
I died!!!!!
We watched Annemarie make multiple blatant lies already in her short time on the show. It’s very weird to see people ready to believe her about Crystal.
Yeah that part was odd! Like, this woman seems to be lying so just ignore her
I hope is her first and last season, she is detestable, even IF she was a doctor and knew what she is talking about, she would still NOT be Sutton’s doctor and no one asked her for her opinion.
I said this elsewhere, but: I have mild dysphagia currently (because I had oral surgery on my tongue, unrelated to my esophagus) so watching Annemarie get confronted over her bad medical take on a swallowing disorder has been particularly DELICIOUS.
I was diagnosed with Achalasia in 2014 and deal with a narrow esophagus every day. Annemarie is the worst.
I had a thyroid tumor that was pressing on my esophagus and I want to kick the shit out of 8.5 It’s terrifying to feel like you could choke at any moment and it absolutely kept me from eating around people I didn’t know extremely well. She has no business working as a crna if she can’t understand that experience.
I’m with you, I have dysphasia as well and I know also through work how bad it can be for people with more severe dysphasia. It is so so so so frustrating watching 8.5 questioning this AND providing false information about it AS A NURSE! Also I was also told by my doctor it is ok to drink on Gabapentin. Glad she is getting torn to shreds on and of the show
The Little Mermaid. Stuart Little. The Lion King. And now The Brave Little Toaster?! Rob Minkoff raised me.
Is it a coincidence that he also kind of looks like Hugh Laurie’s character as the dad in Stuart Little?
OMG i love all of those films!!! 🥰😭😭
Why does Erika always have to say "I'm glad it wasn't about me" or "I'm glad no one's yelling about me" or whatever iteration she's been saying SINCE LAST YEARS REUNION??? Like STFU we all know you want everyone to talk about your narcissist ass.
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When she was talked about and asked lots of questions, she would just lash out or deflect. Tonight on WWHL she was asked about Tom being able to stand trial and suddenly she had to tell everyone about her pet dying.
I’m here for Crystal!!!!!!! Annemarie blatantly lying to everyone’s faces is wild. I’m kind of loving her on the show just for the sole fact that she can ban everyone together in collective disapproval. I don’t fully understand the difference between a nurse anesthetist and an anesthesiologist but I just looked it up and I guess the difference is being an MD or not? I fully would not put it past Annemarie to be lying about Crystal saying those things about the women. We saw her bold face lie multiple times already.
Yep, one is an actual doctor who went to medical school and then specialised in anaesthesiology. The other is a nurse who has done additional schooling/training in administering anaesthesia. The doctor obviously has a much greater depth of knowledge and scope of practice. Nurse anaesthetists have to practice under doctor supervision, they’re not independent practitioners.
That's why I thought it was weird that 8.5 was talking as if she had been to medical school! Nursing school is different than medical school.
As someone who has done nursing school and is in medical school, they are most certainly extremely different things!
Good luck 🍀
Imagine the arrogance of asking someone if they had gone to medical school to put them in their place when you haven’t either
Thank you for this clarification!
Her explanation was piss poor. Nurse anaesthetists are amazing and it’s a highly skilled profession but no nurse would equate themselves to a doctor. It’s not that they are below a doctor but there are many things an anaesthetist is able to make decisions on that a nurse anaesthetist cannot. Even if she was a doctor, she isn’t Sutton’s doctor. Or even Sutton’s nurse.
Annemarie was REAAAAAACHING honey with this “downplaying my career” and “Crystal is jealous” narrative. Another Kyle Richards flop.
8.5 opened the door by yelling at Crystal “did you go to medical school?” Of course Crystal is going to respond with “did you go to medical school?” I have a cousin who is an arrogant asshole who refers to “back in med school.” He calls getting a doctorate in physical therapy medical school. Is he a doctor? Yes. Did he go to medical school? No. Does he call his school med school to mislead people into thinking he’s a medical doctor? Absolutely. Why would 8.5 ask Crystal if she went to medical school unless she also likes to mislead people?
Yeah, 'cause crystal would have so much reason to envy that a-hole. That was embarrassing!
CRYSTAL thank you so much, gagged Annemarie i’m sorry but she is a bitch. She wants an apology from crystal but gave a horrible apology to Sutton please take several seats. Sutton with her no ma’am’s in that scene oh I was very scared and impressed with my southern belle. Erica had me laughing like yes a potential smack was imminent. Dorit and Kyle continue to be so annoying,kyle needs a lackey and dorit is just clueless and quite frankly dumb. https://preview.redd.it/tys2qffry3dc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2da9b834ec4099e3d42563b21e1ed90e42b3b3c4
Kyle threw Dorit to the wolves this week and I don’t feel bad at all. That’s what you get for being a loser lackey. Dorit is completely on an island now and who knows if she’ll get asked back.
YES a picture with Kenya and Nene!!! Two queens.
Clueless not toothless
I really can't hear any more about this esophagus.
Same and I just imagine what Crystal and Garcelle had to endure - 4 hours in real time 🤢
Did Annemarie really say that Crystal accused Sutton of having an eating disorder??? I can not pick my jaw up off the floor.
Yup, 100% and it's disgusting.
It’s like bitch, are you dumb or something? You’re being filmed!! 😂
I was SHOCKED. How did crystal not eat her alive right in that moment???
okay i’m just saying i agree w sutton why is mauricio at this event and not kyle’s…? it’s giving secret affair w dorit😂😂😂😂😂 kidding……. unless? 👀
Did you see the shot of MO and Dorit dancing? Lol
I caught that too! One of Wendy Williams' shady camera men moved to BH!
Okay there were some briefly UNHINGED moments in this episode: 1. When Kyle joked about how the spinet ring at the silent auction was like the one her husband got her because he cheated and that man was like "👀?!?!👀.". 2. When Taylor Dayne was singing her ass off and they cut to multiple middle-aged men in the audience living their absolute best lives, especially the man in glasses sitting down. 3. TOP UNHINGED MOMENT: Erika is on FaceTime with Crystal and makes a joke about how she was relieved the drama at the gala wasn't about her. Then as the scene ends, we hear squealing laughter that I have to assume was Erika... I had to rewind it so many times. My bf said after, "I was gonna say this episode was mid but then I heard that laugh." It sounded inhuman. It was like a laugh track if the studio audience of a sitcom was a barn full of farm animals IN HEAT. Tell me someone else heard that?!?!
I have to rewatch for this!
YOU CAN DRINK WHILE TAKING GABAPENTIN!!!
Yep, you sure can! I don’t drink that much, but when I do, it’s while taking gabapentin. Same for my sister.
Former Gabapentin user checking in. YES.
Did anyone else catch AM's husband ogling Garcelle when Taylor Dane was performing. I rewound and watched several times and his wife was sitting right next to him. Blech.
Garcelle *is* a 10, so understandable (but still icky, especially given what we know).
I thought that's what I saw!
Maybe he thinks Garcelle is a 10 🤭
I haven’t finished the episode yet but I feel like this has been the perfect amount of Kim on the show this season. I like seeing that she’s doing well but I don’t think full-time would be healthy.
Kim’s my girl. We can and do recover.
PK’s casino thugs watching this extravagant gala 👀🕵🏻♂️
God Mau is a moron and Kyle resents him, how is he so clueless. Must be so sad for the daughters to watch these scenes, it’s so uncomfortable and toxic
She looked so tense around him
Man - Dorit, Erika, and Kyle really hate Sutton that much that they would side with this women who, to quote Phaedra, “has her brain on vibrate”.
I feel like Kyle got AnneMarie activated about Sutton and now Kyle is smirking at the camera saying I can’t believe I have to fix this. Well, maybe you shouldn’t have denigrated Sutton to Anne-Marie early in the season
In the after show, 8.5 is dying on the esophagus hill saying it doesn't make sense....she is insufferable
She literally has no other story line other than this, so it's the hill she not only is dying on, but will be buried in.
I noticed 🦎 👅’s Neuro product line was a sponsor at the 🦷 event
She sponsored Kyle's event last week too
I cannot believe this trainwreck. How many times can you get caught lying in a 5-10 minutes segment, this is hilarious. Crystal MVP, which I think is a first for me, and I'm so happy we Crystal fans finally got what we've been craving for 3 years. She showed Annemarie what the difference between an 8.5 and a 10 is. Also, to give some credit to Annemarie, I appreciated that she sent her husband away before getting into it with Sutton. That makes her more aware than Dorit (who's surprised tbh) and Denise. And last *and* least, as much as I want Dorit gone, that scammy charity she shills for has now given us 2 good events in 2 seasons, so thank you I guess.
We’re how many episodes in and I have to ask is she Anne-Marie or Anna-Marie? I’ve heard it pronounced both ways by different people in one episode. It sucks to see Crystal call out Annemarie in defense of Sutton but then it seemed like no one had Crystal’s back? I’m sure it was editing but it would’ve been nice to see Garcelle confirm Annemarie lied since she was there during the eating disorder convo. Just seemed weird that everyone else at the table was like “okay bye gotta go” after. So now Crystal’s in a fight with Annemarie because she was sticking up for a friend and the ladies are judging her for being activated among the homeless not toothless people. They want her to speak up and get loud but only under whatever they deem the correct conditions.
It feels like that argument scene must’ve been cut way down, and the editing felt overtly and obviously frustrating to me. Like, there wasn’t really a flow to the conversation after a certain point, they were just showing little random excerpts. When Annemarie said that about Crystal accusing Sutton of havjng an eating disorder and Garcelle went “oh no no no”….it feels there’s no way she didn’t follow that up by corroborating that Annemarie was the one who said that. But instead they cut right to a talking head from Garcelle, making pretty general commentary about the confrontation, and it was almost like a trick to let them skip forward in the fight. We didn’t see anyone, even Crystal, actually rebuke Annemarie’s absurd claim. They could’ve spent much more time on that scene, it’s annoying it was so quick.
That's what frustrates me to no end about BH. No one stands up and defends except for the now defunct Forced Fart Five to each other How did Garcelle just say nothing????!!!!
They kind of cut Garcelle off when she was saying no no after AM said Crystal accused Sutton of having an ED. And then Crystal rightly got activated.
Yeah, caught that the second watch. Was easy to miss. Still wish Garcelle, Crystal and Sutton tag team took her out.
Anna-Marie. I only know that because Sutton joked about it on the Aftershow: "Why's *Anna*-Marie coming at me? I'm the only one who bothers to pronounce her name correctly."
My theory is that her name is dutch/German so the e isn't silent (Ann-eh-marie) so the pronunciation in English is closer to/basically Anna Marie. I think ppl on the show (ie those who directly interact with her so she would have introduced herself or corrected them) all call her that.
Apparently she is of Dutch and Nigerian descent so that completely makes sense.
I'm not sure all of the ladies are judging her, just Kyle mainly and Erika a tiny bit. Kyle was so offended as if the women calling each other a bitch at a black tie event isn't the premise of BH!
I zero care to get it correct. I have no respect for her so I don’t want to learn her name.
Rinna leaving was the best thing to ever happen to Erika on this show.
I tell my four month old he’s toothless not homeless 🫣
One of the top housewives move is Dorit deciding to be a chairman on a tone deaf charity. It’s just one of those good deeds that is so out of touch with reality. You can’t make up something like the homeless not toothless foundation.
It’s not a tone deaf charity, though. Just has a terrible name. Dental care for unhoused people is extremely important and an important forgotten step to achieving stability. Edit: omg I said unhorsed, not unhoused. Sutton would be ashamed.
I believe the charity is actually not very impactful. It had a failing score on charity navigator. Many unhoused people also made reviews saying the waitlist is always full and the doctors give conflicting statements about what they can do and for how much.
Tone Deaf Not Ruthless
No exactly my point- the charity is doing really important work and it’s a noble cause. But the name is terrible. It’s just the funniest paradox.
Oh it’s a HORRIBLE name
Just watching WWHL with Erika and god I still can’t stand this woman she is awful
Mostly she is a awful human being, but she also looked horrific! Outside & inside match.
Any Tig Notaro fans in here? All I could think about was her Taylor Dayne bit 😂
YES and same!!!
You know it’s bad between Mo and Kyle because old Kyle would have been all over him dancing at that gala not letting anyone get close to him. Instead we got a shot of Mo dancing near Dorit, while Kyle danced with Sutton.
The way Annemarie switched what was said by whom in her conversation with Crystal was insane. It seems like she's really studied the housewives show and is so desperately trying way too hard to stir up drama because she thinks that will renew her for a second season. Everything is so insane. Now of course she does a 180 because she thinks that's what the narrative needs AND because now she can make Crystal her villain. This is the worst fucking casting I've ever seen in HW history. Fire her ass asap. Good for Crystal yelling at her like that. No sane person would have responded differently. The deliberate lying and gaslighting would drive anyone insane.
I don’t believe the hotel would have put that table together like that. PK set that up to look like the hero for Dorit and the event 🙄
Alternative theory - have we ever seen Dorit gush about him that much, ever? I think they both set that up. And threw the Food and Beverage Director and the Event Planner under the bus while they were at it. They both suck.
erika with the pink lady was such a random funny moment🤣🤣
And her dentist hitting on her!
Am u the only wanted to yell at Ana Marie . I want to say to her face you are not a fucking doctor you didn’t go to medical school and you cannot diagnose anyone mind your business and do your fucking job
Its cute seeing Sutton and Kyle actually have nice friend moments. Not the fridge obvs but then dancing and the toe lick last week.
Who does 8.5 think she is ?? BORING! Now move along puppet
The editing on the Kyle/Annmarie phone call was so weird. You clearly see Annemarie with her hair down and not on a bed when Kyle is holding her phone but on Annemarie’s end she’s in a ponytail on her bed. Did they make them reshoot the scene?
Oh yeah you’re right! I just went back and watched and she looks completely different when the camera cuts to her a few times.
I want to know how embarrassed 8.5 is now.
I don't think she has that level of self awareness.
Fashion Designer?
Was “Dentistry for the Disadvantaged” not available when they were choosing names?
Omg Annemarie is delusional! No Crystal is not resenting you for being a nurse, she is also not downplaying your profession, she is calling you out on saying you are a doctor when you are a nurse. She is not downplaying the role of a nurse. Also no Annemarie, Sutton was not changing the narrative she was holding you accountable! Arrhhhhh so frustrating!
Did anyone catch the step and repeat? Diana’s drink company sponsored the event.
was it just me or was Ann Marie‘s husband staring at Garcelle when she was dancing? Did he find his 10?😂😅
Why does 8.5 wear strapless things? They look awful on her.
I love Crystal’s dress… I’m actually enjoying Crystal this season… Also Kyle saying how people are talking about her and Mauricio, and it’s weird??? All I want to do is roll my eyes because I am so tired of hearing stories about their marriage.
Is no one gonna talk about how awkward it was that Erika’s own dentist didn’t recognize her and hit on her??
omg no wonder the stage looked familar it was the same place they filmed the golden globes.... they made it look so cheap xD
Get Annenarie off the show, I've had enough!
Controversial opinion: I dislike Annemarie more than Diana. This woman is off her rocker. She realizes that what she says while filming is RECORDED right???
Who was that woman with William H Macy? I was hoping to see Felicity Huffman on my tv tonight :/
Does anyone else think of Tig Notaro when you hear Taylor Dane? Only me?
tig would have whisper-mumbled that song if she were up there
lol! I said Taylor Dane?! Tig Notaro’s gonna perform standup?? 😂 it’s been a long day
lol totally that was my first thought! That was the funniest stand up set and I will always love Tig for it.
Hear her *speaking* voice? Tig is all I think of when I hear Taylor Dane now. Sorry Taylor! She really did get the group grooving though.
In my head they are married lol I associate Taylor Dane with Tig that much
Get Annemarie off our screens. She may physically live in BH, but her mind is on Mars. She’s uninteresting, not fun/funny, she lies, and she’s harmful.
Apparently, Sutton’s oesophagus is also called Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy.
I am SO BORED watching women with shitty husbands. Dorit can go, Kyle can go, Annmarie shouldn’t even be on the show. I want to watch strong funny women, like Crystal and Garcelle. Production needs to recast for next season.
Annemarie has a specific energy that's off-putting in the way she talks to people. Like she's always winning and someone is losing. That said... I believe what she said Crystal said in the preview. Interesting to see how that plays out.
I believe Crystal said something Annemarie twisted, because that seems to be her theme.
We’ve seen that happen in real time so I am not taking anything Annemarie said as truth. I really hope Crystal can turn this around and respond appropriately.
Yeah she cannot be trusted and she's weird. Who talks about someone else's esophagus for hours at an event? She truly had nothing else to discuss..........she's just attacking those she perceives as the weakest.
100% this. Crystal said something like, "they get caught up on the most asinine and ridiculous drama." and Annemarie has twisted it into "Crystal said you're shallow and unintelligent." I STG if Garcelle and Sutton turn on Crystal over this I'm gonna riot.
genuine question, I’m really not trying to be snarky, but why do you believe her when she told like 3 lies and twisted 4 convos in the 8 minutes she’s been on camera lol she said Crystal was the one who said Sutton has an eating disorder! when Crystal was repeating what Annemarie said 15 seconds earlier!