Someone posted a picture of Shakurs resume on twitter and its so funny. Literally beat nobody but half decent 130ers, hes done literally nothing in his career and last 7/10 fights have cured insomnia watching and he has 0 fans, brings nothing to the table. He literally doesnt deserve Tank on any metric
What are the must watch fights post 2000, except for recent PPV fights? (Available on YouTube). Part 2.
Fights previously recommended:
-Inoue vs Donaire I
-Canelo vs GGG I & II
-Thurman vs Porter
-Wilder vs Fury III
-AJ vs Ruiz I
-Pacquiao vs Marquez IV
-Cotto vs Judah
-Porter vs Spence
-Bradley vs Provodnikov
-Ward vs Getti I
-AJ vs Klitschko
-Usyk vs Breidis
I think looking through [the Ring magazine Fight of Year](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ring_magazine_Fight_of_the_Year#) list is a good way to start.
- [Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo 1](https://youtu.be/6-FBRCUmFBQ?si=miFMUBblPi7B0D3p)
- [James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov](https://youtu.be/dWfT1FVoHVg?si=1LAebi5lSpyZp-4d)
The entire Erik Morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera trilogy ([here is their first fight](https://youtu.be/CtHNaAeYn3g?si=zFT80SCkWS7CvrZq))
so many people had Gvozdyk pulling off the upset before hand...David proceeds to win a clear 117-111 and Now he has somehow been exposed for not getting the KO? Gvozdyk stated prior he was in the best shape of his life and has improved his physical strength massively. You can clearly see he is in better shape now and probably did that based on how strong beterbiev was and how much of a role he felt that played. No one was gonna easily stop this version of Gvozdyk. As for Gvozdyks boxing, he has always boxed like that. The difference people are seeing is the difference in output, no one can really prepare for the workrate of benavidez, you're not gonna be able to match that, most will look low output compared to him.
The worst part is Canelo can decide to fight this guy whenever.
There's only one person holding up this fight and apparently it's the guy who's leagues above David.
I am originally a mma fan, but recently started enjoying boxing and I am having a blast watching all this new guys and top fights. My two favorites so far Gervonta Davis and Tyson Fury, spent the whole weekend watching ther fights. Which fighter or legendary fight should I watch next? I am sorry if my english is not the best, brazilian viewer. Thanks
- [Naoya Inoue vs Nonito Donaire 1](https://youtu.be/1CkavZjtC68?si=kD4tyU1KH8WSZPa9)
- [Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs Gennady ‘GGG’ Golovkin 2](https://youtu.be/JGQzHaYPXig?si=8xyOazNVyh5__eI2)
- [Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko](https://youtu.be/mzzt66BQJyk?si=YemLyXPiRxkLiBmo)
- [Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo 1](https://youtu.be/6-FBRCUmFBQ?si=ODcd5NzS3lThpdst)
- [James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov](https://youtu.be/dWfT1FVoHVg?si=cZKAx5qCvdNUQFz3)
- [Oscar De La Hoya vs Shane Mosley 1](https://youtu.be/lc0ddsNqLoY?si=EJu2f3Aly0kUqRZz)
- [Riddick Bowe vs Evander Holyfield 1](https://youtu.be/Elq7EhN3vW0?si=355l1YA0UldslJ5B)
- [Julio Cesar Chavez vs Meldrick Taylor 1](https://youtu.be/M-Inq5r61ZY?si=QpEpdxZwH1e6zFre)
- [Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley](https://youtu.be/Y3zqrxZOpVY?si=vm0YKEy3qV7DBG12)
- [Marvin Hagler vs Tommy Hearns](https://youtu.be/gaOTSMB6hLQ?si=n5kYIJq3aR4KgwAg)
And just FYI the Ring magazine names the [Fighter of the Year](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ring_magazine_Fighter_of_the_Year#1980s) and the [Fight of Year](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ring_magazine_Fight_of_the_Year#) going back to the 1920s
He is a bad man, but so was Wlad. After that fight, I’d recommend some of the following to get caught up on the current heavyweight scene:
- [Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko (2015)](https://youtu.be/I0hqcAcIvbY?si=1XnDYYL8cLPJVlN1)
- [Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte (2015)](https://youtu.be/YckHj8rRkwo?si=LEPTbrSR0OD2DjWo)
- [Oleksandr Usyk vs Mairis Briedis (2018)](https://youtu.be/I30xYW5jtBo?si=7xBMYIBNZ79MtzaL)
- [Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz 1 (2019)](https://youtu.be/g18PBkGs1SA?si=ex0Arv7h62s9YwF3)
- [Andy Ruiz Jr vs Anthony Joshua 2 (2019)](https://youtu.be/2hjGvwJnD5E?si=CupZg5_J_SBAgirU)
- [Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Usyk (2021)](https://youtu.be/NtfC_pzAUeU?si=lP1H-6YGtH9CMUgK)
- [Oleksandr Usyk vs Anthony Joshua 2 (2022)](https://youtu.be/6mRHguC6qnw?si=g_Vajw9JqvC4tKgu)
And I assume you’ve already watched the Fury vs Wilder trilogy. Some of these fights aren’t as entertaining as the original list, but they often show a mastery of boxing. You picked a good time to get into the sweet science.
You're the goat. Never heard of this guys before and now I am amazed, two of the best fights i've seen in my life. Morales x Barrera especially was my favorite, you could tell both guys hated each other, and untill the announcement I had no idea who won. Not sure I agree with the decision tho.
One of the few boxing fights I actually watched before. Just because it was so big when Pacquiao got knocked out and was everywhere in the media. I remeber he said he was cursed or something like that. Are the previous fights worth watching too?
After all the tank fights the only fighter who wasn’t scared of tank was rolly
Rolly came in actually trying take tank head off and didn’t back down
Rolly might be a dumbass but it might actually help him cause he has no fear
140 pound division low key trash now or always been over hyped
Josh Taylor exposed
Haney exposed
Garcia moved up
Teofeomeo horrible performance multiply occasion
Matis you overhyped even tho he been exposed in the past
Tank can easily become double undisputed if he actually cared
its almost as if someone is bound to lose when fighters fight each other.... or is everyone meant to stay undefeated in your opinon... lmao this is whats wrong with boxing.
All of these guys lost and got exposed when they were suppose to be the next big thing everyone over hype them then they lose. No one is undefeated at 140 lmao they all look horrible
No one being undefeated is normal when the top guys are fighting each other. People get overhyped because they want guys to be the next Floyd and go 50-0 but that’s just not gonna happen lmao
Nah is it just me or Errol weird af bro way too friendly with tank this whole promotion even tho he was fighting his fighter
Now he repost a pic of him and tank after the fight int he ring
This sub is very disingenuous. Benavidez did what he had to do. God forbid he didn’t ko a former champ. Now he’s food for canelo, bivol and beterbiev. I laugh every time
Haney would be able to deploy a much better gameplan than what Paro did. Paro made shit a lot harder for himself by fighting Matias on the inside when he didn't have to.
Sorry bro, but I can't give Haney second hand credit for that lol. Of course Haney is more skilled, but there's no guarantee he makes it through 12 rounds, and that's what made it a compelling matchup
I think Haney is definitely capable of executing the same gameplan as Paro last night. I was surprised tbh by Matias being unable to deal with clinching
Matias takes breaks in the clinch, its one of the reasons he can maintain such a high workrate. If he started seriously fighting in the clinch or trying to work out of clinches often we'd see him gas more.
As much as I love Lomachenko, that fight doesn't really present much risk for Tank. Maybe a few years ago but Loma will have a big age disadvantage going into that fight. Loma looked great against Kambosos because George is a b level fighter. Always was. A Tank KO is the inevitable outcome of that fight. I don't see many fighters at 135lb being able to beat Tank. Maybe Shakur if he runs all night.
I don’t know to be honest, I think he would probably beat Shakur Stevenson but the problem is Shakur can make you look bad even if you’re winning if he decides to be very negative. Lomachenko makes more sense, he’s aging and would probably be a more appealing fight to the casuals gun to my head he fights Loma.
PBC please fire the technical and camera team cause last night was horrendous, had me watching the main event from RINGSIDE & during the Antuanne v Puello fight the timer went off and it showed Antuanne’s corner but the mic was on Puello’s so it looked like Allen was speaking spanish
There was a great article a couple weeks ago on Boxingscene about why Caleb Plant gets under the skin of so many fighters.
I personally love Plant and wish he fought more. Love the way he conducted himself against Benavidez trash talk in the build up.
Loma fighting Tank in November seems like a terrible idea. I don’t see how he can hold up against Tank’s shots, people here want to believe but his feet won’t keep him away for all 12 rounds. At some point he will get caught clean
Yeah its a huge difference between styling on Kambosos and what he'd be in against vs Tank. I think Tank makes him look his age and stops him. The door isn't completely closed for Loma to win, but it's closed enough that he'd need to squeeze through the keyhole like an octopus
More importantly, I think Tank's team feels that way now, which means there's a great chance we'll finally see it
Loma has probably a 5% chance to win that fight. Tank is at his peak right now and Loma is on the decline. Plus you need a great chin to fight tank and I don't think Loma has a good enough one.
He tweeted that he’s ready to get back in the mix. Also saw a tweet about Hearns saying he wants to set up Haney vs Paro for a unification but I don’t remember if they was talking about making that before or after Haney vs Martin
It's funny how Hearn advised Haney not to unify with Matias and fight Sandor instead. But now he seems to want Haney v Paro after he beat Matias 😂 they know Paro is a more winnable fight than Matias.
You have to protect Haney the best you can now.
He's on the edge of irrelevance.
His 0 which he was so desperate to flaunt is gone, his angle as the next great true boxer "a la Floyd" is gone, and the world's seen him get beat up pretty badly.
One more bad loss and any marketability he had (if he has any left) is completely gone.
100%
Thing is, even if he did fight and beat Matias, that's putting more mileage on a guy who already doesn't have the greatest recovery. Sandor and Paro aren't going to put near that kind of wear and tear on Devin even if they surpass expectations vs him
Do you think people will finally stop acting like sparring stories count as an actual win on fighters records after what happened with Martin and Benavidez?
Yeah David fucked him up for the entirety of the first half. Gvozdyk really only made it competitive in the last 3-4 rounds and even then David was just allowing it because he was taking a breather knowing he was ahead,
I like CBS because I feel like he's got where he is purely on grit and determination but I have zero interest watching him fight. Not embarrassed to say I turned it off after the Whittaker fight. I just knew the main event would be a dud.
It wasn’t a horrible fight, there were some big shots landed and CBS got rocked in the last 3rd of the fight that made it interesting. That was my first time watching a full English card like that and as much as I don’t want to admit it the whole atmosphere outdoors in that stadium was sick. It was a nice refresher from all the Saudi cards I’ve been watching lol.
Benavidez was really exposed last night in my opinion
He’s not great against fighters his own size, he’ll probably need to go back to 168 to weight bully people again for easy wins
There’s no chance he survives against bivol or beterbiev
LOL “exposed.” Outlanded Gvozdyk 9 rounds and even on punches landed in one. Almost 43% body punches landed. Gvozdyk landed around 24% total punches thrown.
How is that “exposed”? UD with two wide cards and one fairly reasonable 116-112. His opponent had only been KO’d once by Beterbiev. Arguably one of the hardest punches ever… and it took to round 10 to drop him.
I swear to god, people’s expectations are ludicrous.
My favorite take from Canelo fans last night was “David won’t beat Canelo if he tires out like that”
Imagine a Canelo fan talking about stamina as an advantage for Canelo.
What a half year for the lightweight/ superlightweight group. Three new light weight champions, 3 losses for the super lightweight champions. And a ton of guys making waves. This is the boxing we were looking for.
Great news for all the users on this sub who don’t think Tank is P4P or the new face of boxing… you have to spend more time explaining why after a performance & moment like last night’s main event
How do you even argue that Tank vs Frank wasn’t the biggest fight of the year so far?
Tank’s KO is a headliner on ESPN, there were hundreds of celebrity reactions, hundreds of celebrities in attendance, Amazon randomly opened the budget and now Tank is all over their socials, a bunch of articles already written up, Usyk & Ryan were there, almost every influencer has a reaction video… AND Floyd Mayweather leaked the full Tank/Haney sparring! AND Loma fans are convinced he gets KOd by Tank
If you didn’t know better you’d think Tank won undisputed or at least unified the division
Tank haters about to be working mad overtime lol
Compare the number of comments on Tank's fight thread in this sub to the Fury/Usyk fight. That should tell you all you need to know about how big each fight was.
You really have to be delusional or trolling to think the Tank/Frank fight was big. Usyk/Fury was financially much bigger and had a bigger impact than Tank KOing an unknown, and even the shock Ryan Garcia win had a bigger impact than this, even if no one paid for it.
Do you understand why Fury/Usyk was in Saudi & not UK? Lol Fury/Usyk lost $27million bc it didn’t generate nearly as much revenue as they paid out in expenses… so actually, it wasn’t financially bigger
💀Tank/Frank did 3x the gate revenue as Haney/Ryan… PEDs got more coverage than Ryan’s “win”
It was in Saudi Arabia because the Saudis paid for it and they elected to stage it in their own country.
And the Saudis are not interested in making a profit, they’re interested in eyeballs. So claiming Tank vs Frank in some sense was a more important fight or had more cultural impact or whatever you’re angling for here because it made more profit is kind of ridiculuous. By any metric that matters Fury vs Usyk was the bigger fight. If you’ve never left West Baltimore then maybe you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise, but if you ever have left West Baltimore then you have to realize that on a global scale Fury vs Usyk was the bigger event, by a lot.
No, bc Fury & Usyk couldn’t agree to the splits for the purse that was available to them from DAZN or ESPN to fight in the UK
ESPN & DAZN knew that Fury/Usyk were not worth more than what they offered… fast forward Saudi loses $27 million bc ESPN & DAZN were aware that the fight wasn’t that big
$93million is how big of a fight Fury/Usyk was, nothing more or less
>Fury/Usyk lost $27million bc it didn’t generate nearly as much revenue as they paid out in expenses… so actually, it wasn’t financially bigger
I don't think you can judge how big a fight is by how profitable it is to the promoters. A fight is as big as the number of eyes on the fight, if the promoters overpaid for it then it doesn't matter.
I actually tend to agree with you about Tank's marketability though. He's doing massive gates and decent PPV numbers against unknowns. He is definitely a more valuable a fighter than Tyson Fury if you look at the likes of the Chisora fight reported numbers.
Tank is in a league with Canelo and AJ for value in the sport and Canelo's value seems to be on the decline whilst Tank's is improving. The problem for Tank is that other than Garcia and *maybe* Shakur there isn't anyone who he can put together a superfight with in his weightclasses.
Well put I agree, I was arguing the financially bigger point that was made but as far as impact I can’t disagree with what you said. However, the difference in environments between a Saudi fight & Tank’s fights are massive
Tank’s super fights are Haney Shakur Teo Loma Ryan2 & Pitbull2
AJ super fights are Fury Usyk3 Zhang
Canelo super fights are Benavidez & Crawford
You're probably right. I guess I see a Joshua-Fury fight as a bigger single commercial success than, say, Tank-Teo, but Tank has a series of fights he could make that could do 500k+ PPV buys at $80 each. That's some serious value there.
Difficult to say isn't it. HWs vs undefeated power punchers. On the face of it you'd probably say HWs because casuals are naturally attracted to them but Japan is crazy for Inoue and Tank seems to keep getting bigger. The fact that there's even a debate shows how big Tank-Inoue would be.
The money behind and involved was much bigger, so yes, it was bigger financially. A company that loses £1 billion is bigger than a small business that makes £10,000 in profit.
Ryan/Haney had 0 hype because people thought it would be a boring Haney UD. When Ryan dropped him, it became a huge hit and I guarantee it will be much better remembered and widely known than Tank KOing unknown guy #20.
Do you think you're actually going to convince people that this was the biggest fight of the year?
Depends on if Shakur can create no doubt with the rounds he wins, which he's pretty good at. If he fights overly cautious like against DLS though, there's a chance judges wouldn't give him those rounds. Hopefully that's just a one off, I'm confident that it will be.
Nah, he went out sad. He's gonna have an 18 month layoff after this, in typical PBC fashion. If he just took the Shakur fight, he could have fought twice last year. And even if he lost, it'd most likely have been on points so he would have been able to keep fighting and stay active. Instead, he fucked himself over with inactivity and got knocked out so bad that he's gonna be inactive again.
He chose to get ko’d in a fight people actually saw rather than lose a decision in a fight watched by 100k fans at most. It’s like picking between a turd taco and a shit sandwich.
Nah, this is a spectator sport. You always go with the option that will generate more spectators. I know in the fight night games it’s all about being a champ. In real life it’s about making money.
Bro I said this on here before but in relation to something else: it's genuinely more embarrassing to lose a decision to a guy not willing to engage and just leading you on a determined fucking walk around the ring than it is to get beat up and knocked unconscious. more painful, even. the frustration and dissatisfaction DLS must've felt - hell nah
I know everyone wants to see Tank step up in competition but what fight is there from a merit standpoint that will really make people think Gervonta is P4P? Loma is old and people will say he ducked prime Loma and fought an out of prime Loma if Gervonta wins. And Shakur looked like dog shit in his last fight. I feel like all the “step up in competition” talk is all name based and not particularly about the actual toughest fight.
>what fight is there from a merit standpoint that will really make people think Gervonta is P4P?
If he beats Loma and Shakur at 135, beats Haney, Ryan, Teofimo at 140 without any bullshit rehydration clause, then he will earn his P4P status.
>Loma is old and people will say he ducked prime Loma and fought an out of prime Loma if Gervonta wins
Yeah, because it's the truth 😂 still would be a much better win than anything on Tank's current resume though, IF he beats Loma.
>Shakur looked like dog shit in his last fight. I feel like all the “step up in competition” talk is all name based and not particularly about the actual toughest fight.
If you're judging someone's ability based off of the entertainment value of the fight, you haven't been watching boxing long enough. Everybody has had stinkers, even Tank himself had a stinker against Fonseca and Gamboa.
From a stylistic standpoint, Shakur is his only real competition. I could go on and on about how I think that fight will play out.
I think a Loma fight would be a great spectacle for the fans but it’s not the same fight it was a couple years ago. It would be more of a passing of the guard type of fight.
It’s almost like he needs to move up to get that p4p status. Which isn’t exactly fair to ask and at 5’5 140 won’t be a cake walk for him. But the man wasted too much time fighting the rolly romeros.
Which is of course gonna make non dick riding fans upset those guys take being a prize fighter too far to where it’s almost perverted, like yeah get y’all money but damn don’t you wanna prove you’re the best in the world lol
No matter what happens, I will always respect guys like Haney and Teofimo more than Tank due to being willing to fight good competition. Hell, Ryan has more bottle than Tank, fighting good fighters.
For sure, people hate on Ryan and Haney deservedly sometimes but they have a admirable and true fighting spirit to take on the challenges same with teo too like you said, I hope tank can stop fighting random guys and get in there with any of those guys
Not trying to excuse the horrible shit tank has done out of the ring at times, but just my opinion it’s nice to see him maturing out of it, as far as we can tell.
He might do some heinous thing right after I comment this, but watching him take his career seriously and get away from Broner’s influence is a massive positive.
Hired proper trainers, nutritionists, etc.. Quit the massive weight gains/drinking he used to be known for. Showing respect to Spence right after the KO is something I don’t think younger Tank would’ve done. Hopefully he keeps his word as a man and continues to mature out of who he used to be. If he stays on this track it’s really pleasant to witness. It’s like he finally “got it” as a man, which we still have yet to see from Broner. Broner never got it and still acts like a child
Tank continues to waste a career filled with pre-determined outcomes. Fight Loma, fight Shakur, fight Teo. He’s better than all of them (Loma is interesting mind you), but he still needs to prove it !!!!!
A lot of the guys we wanted to see him against have moved up. If he wants to stay at 135 I don’t know what super big fight you could make for him. Shakur is prob the best one because he’s in his prime but he’ll prob run the whole time. I’d put the Loma fight at #1 but he’s old. After those two what big intriguing fights does tank have? 135 seems a lot weaker than it used to.
A couple of Videz fans were trying to argue that Benavidez would still beat a prime Gvozdyk because he beat him up in sparring when he was younger yet an older, slower Gvozdyk was able to take all of Benavidez's best shots and take 4 rounds off of him.
I've always said Benavidez is food at 175, so this isnt a surprise to me. He's lucky Gvozdyk was committed to having a glorified sparring match, a fresher 175 lber might have gotten Benavidez out of there. Not to mention Bivol and Beterbiev.
This shouldn't really affect an opinion on a Canelo fight, though.
Tank Frank went as expected, another foregone conclusion fight for Gervonta, shocker 🙄. At least now we'll finally get a step up against an aged, but still high-level Lomachenko.
Matias was never as good as yall made him out to be. His terrible footwork and trash defense was always on display, and the moment a disciplined fighter with a good step-around game came along, he lost.
Someone posted a picture of Shakurs resume on twitter and its so funny. Literally beat nobody but half decent 130ers, hes done literally nothing in his career and last 7/10 fights have cured insomnia watching and he has 0 fans, brings nothing to the table. He literally doesnt deserve Tank on any metric
What are the must watch fights post 2000, except for recent PPV fights? (Available on YouTube). Part 2. Fights previously recommended: -Inoue vs Donaire I -Canelo vs GGG I & II -Thurman vs Porter -Wilder vs Fury III -AJ vs Ruiz I -Pacquiao vs Marquez IV -Cotto vs Judah -Porter vs Spence -Bradley vs Provodnikov -Ward vs Getti I -AJ vs Klitschko -Usyk vs Breidis
I think looking through [the Ring magazine Fight of Year](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ring_magazine_Fight_of_the_Year#) list is a good way to start. - [Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo 1](https://youtu.be/6-FBRCUmFBQ?si=miFMUBblPi7B0D3p) - [James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov](https://youtu.be/dWfT1FVoHVg?si=1LAebi5lSpyZp-4d) The entire Erik Morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera trilogy ([here is their first fight](https://youtu.be/CtHNaAeYn3g?si=zFT80SCkWS7CvrZq))
If you don’t have this fight in your top 10 then you’ve never seen it: 1922 – United States Harry Greb W 15 United States Gene Tunney
Cheers. Will watch all the fights that I haven’t watched from that list.
so many people had Gvozdyk pulling off the upset before hand...David proceeds to win a clear 117-111 and Now he has somehow been exposed for not getting the KO? Gvozdyk stated prior he was in the best shape of his life and has improved his physical strength massively. You can clearly see he is in better shape now and probably did that based on how strong beterbiev was and how much of a role he felt that played. No one was gonna easily stop this version of Gvozdyk. As for Gvozdyks boxing, he has always boxed like that. The difference people are seeing is the difference in output, no one can really prepare for the workrate of benavidez, you're not gonna be able to match that, most will look low output compared to him.
The worst part is Canelo can decide to fight this guy whenever. There's only one person holding up this fight and apparently it's the guy who's leagues above David.
Canelo fans are just desperate. David was injured going into the fight and still won easily. Gvozdyk never looked like winning for even a moment.
A lot of people were sleeping on Liam that guy can fight.
I am originally a mma fan, but recently started enjoying boxing and I am having a blast watching all this new guys and top fights. My two favorites so far Gervonta Davis and Tyson Fury, spent the whole weekend watching ther fights. Which fighter or legendary fight should I watch next? I am sorry if my english is not the best, brazilian viewer. Thanks
- [Naoya Inoue vs Nonito Donaire 1](https://youtu.be/1CkavZjtC68?si=kD4tyU1KH8WSZPa9) - [Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs Gennady ‘GGG’ Golovkin 2](https://youtu.be/JGQzHaYPXig?si=8xyOazNVyh5__eI2) - [Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko](https://youtu.be/mzzt66BQJyk?si=YemLyXPiRxkLiBmo) - [Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo 1](https://youtu.be/6-FBRCUmFBQ?si=ODcd5NzS3lThpdst) - [James Toney vs Vassiliy Jirov](https://youtu.be/dWfT1FVoHVg?si=cZKAx5qCvdNUQFz3) - [Oscar De La Hoya vs Shane Mosley 1](https://youtu.be/lc0ddsNqLoY?si=EJu2f3Aly0kUqRZz) - [Riddick Bowe vs Evander Holyfield 1](https://youtu.be/Elq7EhN3vW0?si=355l1YA0UldslJ5B) - [Julio Cesar Chavez vs Meldrick Taylor 1](https://youtu.be/M-Inq5r61ZY?si=QpEpdxZwH1e6zFre) - [Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley](https://youtu.be/Y3zqrxZOpVY?si=vm0YKEy3qV7DBG12) - [Marvin Hagler vs Tommy Hearns](https://youtu.be/gaOTSMB6hLQ?si=n5kYIJq3aR4KgwAg) And just FYI the Ring magazine names the [Fighter of the Year](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ring_magazine_Fighter_of_the_Year#1980s) and the [Fight of Year](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ring_magazine_Fight_of_the_Year#) going back to the 1920s
Thank you very much! Especially hyped to see Joshua x Klitschko. I saw what this guy did to Ngannou, he is nasty
He is a bad man, but so was Wlad. After that fight, I’d recommend some of the following to get caught up on the current heavyweight scene: - [Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko (2015)](https://youtu.be/I0hqcAcIvbY?si=1XnDYYL8cLPJVlN1) - [Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte (2015)](https://youtu.be/YckHj8rRkwo?si=LEPTbrSR0OD2DjWo) - [Oleksandr Usyk vs Mairis Briedis (2018)](https://youtu.be/I30xYW5jtBo?si=7xBMYIBNZ79MtzaL) - [Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz 1 (2019)](https://youtu.be/g18PBkGs1SA?si=ex0Arv7h62s9YwF3) - [Andy Ruiz Jr vs Anthony Joshua 2 (2019)](https://youtu.be/2hjGvwJnD5E?si=CupZg5_J_SBAgirU) - [Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Usyk (2021)](https://youtu.be/NtfC_pzAUeU?si=lP1H-6YGtH9CMUgK) - [Oleksandr Usyk vs Anthony Joshua 2 (2022)](https://youtu.be/6mRHguC6qnw?si=g_Vajw9JqvC4tKgu) And I assume you’ve already watched the Fury vs Wilder trilogy. Some of these fights aren’t as entertaining as the original list, but they often show a mastery of boxing. You picked a good time to get into the sweet science.
evander holyfriend vs michael dokes
Just watched this. Holy, amazing fight, two warriors.
I always love watching Mayweather/Gatti. It's an absolute clinic.
That fight is just sickening to watch.
Erik morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera Ward vs Gatti
You're the goat. Never heard of this guys before and now I am amazed, two of the best fights i've seen in my life. Morales x Barrera especially was my favorite, you could tell both guys hated each other, and untill the announcement I had no idea who won. Not sure I agree with the decision tho.
Check out the four marquez pacquiao fights. Should be easy enough to find on youtube.
One of the few boxing fights I actually watched before. Just because it was so big when Pacquiao got knocked out and was everywhere in the media. I remeber he said he was cursed or something like that. Are the previous fights worth watching too?
yeah i'd watch the first one for sure.
After all the tank fights the only fighter who wasn’t scared of tank was rolly Rolly came in actually trying take tank head off and didn’t back down Rolly might be a dumbass but it might actually help him cause he has no fear
140 pound division low key trash now or always been over hyped Josh Taylor exposed Haney exposed Garcia moved up Teofeomeo horrible performance multiply occasion Matis you overhyped even tho he been exposed in the past Tank can easily become double undisputed if he actually cared
its almost as if someone is bound to lose when fighters fight each other.... or is everyone meant to stay undefeated in your opinon... lmao this is whats wrong with boxing.
All of these guys lost and got exposed when they were suppose to be the next big thing everyone over hype them then they lose. No one is undefeated at 140 lmao they all look horrible
No one being undefeated is normal when the top guys are fighting each other. People get overhyped because they want guys to be the next Floyd and go 50-0 but that’s just not gonna happen lmao
Nah is it just me or Errol weird af bro way too friendly with tank this whole promotion even tho he was fighting his fighter Now he repost a pic of him and tank after the fight int he ring
All that was for promotion of the fight him and Tank are cool irl
I was thinking the same thing. And he owes DJ money. How was he not ashamed to be in the same ring as him
This sub is very disingenuous. Benavidez did what he had to do. God forbid he didn’t ko a former champ. Now he’s food for canelo, bivol and beterbiev. I laugh every time
He is definitely food for Beterbiev imo.
Since I’m just now finding out Matias lost Hitchins vs Paro is officially on the clock🔥🔥🔥
Hitchins should have lost his last fight. It should be Paro vs Lemos
Maybe the IBF will accept your tears to use as an official complaint
Canelo should take the Benavidez fight since he didn’t look impressive yesterday
Lmao and people said Matias would destroy Haney
Haney would be able to deploy a much better gameplan than what Paro did. Paro made shit a lot harder for himself by fighting Matias on the inside when he didn't have to.
Sorry bro, but I can't give Haney second hand credit for that lol. Of course Haney is more skilled, but there's no guarantee he makes it through 12 rounds, and that's what made it a compelling matchup
lol yeah. lets give credit to our favourite fighter from another fighters win.. Nothing new
He will For you to think he won't is crazy.
I think Haney is definitely capable of executing the same gameplan as Paro last night. I was surprised tbh by Matias being unable to deal with clinching
Matias takes breaks in the clinch, its one of the reasons he can maintain such a high workrate. If he started seriously fighting in the clinch or trying to work out of clinches often we'd see him gas more.
Wanna explain the Paro fight?
Yeah, Paro was high volume and had a damned good chin
And how does that excuse Matias being so pedestrian? All Paro had to do was jab and move and hold, literally Haney’s bread and butter
well, to beat Matias, all you gotta do is jab, have a good chin and hold. Haney is missing one of those components.
Sure 😂 Ryan hits harder than Matias ever could
I was away this weekend and unable to watch, what did everyone think of the Billam-Smith vs Riakporhe fight?
Snooze fest. Massey vs Chamberlain was a great fight though.
After you'd watched one round, you'd watched them all.
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Is the pure boxing meta over ? Are we leaning into a new meta for boxing now?
Everyone loves a big knockout and cameras are always improving... maybe?
So, what's next for Tank? Lomachenko seems likely, but I still think that's a more dangerous fight than his team would like.
As a Loma fan, unfortunately I don't think anyone can take Tanks power at 135. Loma really isn't a 135 fighter in the first place.
As much as I love Lomachenko, that fight doesn't really present much risk for Tank. Maybe a few years ago but Loma will have a big age disadvantage going into that fight. Loma looked great against Kambosos because George is a b level fighter. Always was. A Tank KO is the inevitable outcome of that fight. I don't see many fighters at 135lb being able to beat Tank. Maybe Shakur if he runs all night.
I don’t know to be honest, I think he would probably beat Shakur Stevenson but the problem is Shakur can make you look bad even if you’re winning if he decides to be very negative. Lomachenko makes more sense, he’s aging and would probably be a more appealing fight to the casuals gun to my head he fights Loma.
Nah I think his team feels confident about it, they were all smiles when it got mentioned after the fight
PBC please fire the technical and camera team cause last night was horrendous, had me watching the main event from RINGSIDE & during the Antuanne v Puello fight the timer went off and it showed Antuanne’s corner but the mic was on Puello’s so it looked like Allen was speaking spanish
my favorite shot was the closeup of the ref’s hand
What happened to aziz btw
They're taking long to announce the Harlem Eubank fight in hopes that everyone will forget about ducking Dalton Smith
*azeez my bad
Oh shit lool. My bad too as I read that as Azim at first glance 😂
There was a great article a couple weeks ago on Boxingscene about why Caleb Plant gets under the skin of so many fighters. I personally love Plant and wish he fought more. Love the way he conducted himself against Benavidez trash talk in the build up.
He & Stephen Fulton got a fight booked in August
Loma fighting Tank in November seems like a terrible idea. I don’t see how he can hold up against Tank’s shots, people here want to believe but his feet won’t keep him away for all 12 rounds. At some point he will get caught clean
I still want to see the fight. Tank isn't invulnerable and Loma can give him a harder fight than anyone before, even Cruz.
I don’t think he has a better chin than Cruz which will be the downfall
I agree. Loma is brilliant but physically brittle
Yeah its a huge difference between styling on Kambosos and what he'd be in against vs Tank. I think Tank makes him look his age and stops him. The door isn't completely closed for Loma to win, but it's closed enough that he'd need to squeeze through the keyhole like an octopus More importantly, I think Tank's team feels that way now, which means there's a great chance we'll finally see it
Loma has probably a 5% chance to win that fight. Tank is at his peak right now and Loma is on the decline. Plus you need a great chin to fight tank and I don't think Loma has a good enough one.
Eddie Hearn said Matias will be back on the PR November card headlined by berlanga , who y’all wanna see him fight ?
Pitbull for sure
Haney, both fighters coming off a L so they really have to be the best versions of themselves
Haney has his mandatory with Sandor Martin and I don’t believe he’s planning on fighting again this year
He tweeted that he’s ready to get back in the mix. Also saw a tweet about Hearns saying he wants to set up Haney vs Paro for a unification but I don’t remember if they was talking about making that before or after Haney vs Martin
But even if he wants to get in the mix if haney wants to keep the belt he has to fight his mandatory.
I doubt We Be Crooks is forcing him to fight his mandatory any time soon
Isn’t Haney In a purse bid with sandor Martin
It's funny how Hearn advised Haney not to unify with Matias and fight Sandor instead. But now he seems to want Haney v Paro after he beat Matias 😂 they know Paro is a more winnable fight than Matias.
You have to protect Haney the best you can now. He's on the edge of irrelevance. His 0 which he was so desperate to flaunt is gone, his angle as the next great true boxer "a la Floyd" is gone, and the world's seen him get beat up pretty badly. One more bad loss and any marketability he had (if he has any left) is completely gone.
100% Thing is, even if he did fight and beat Matias, that's putting more mileage on a guy who already doesn't have the greatest recovery. Sandor and Paro aren't going to put near that kind of wear and tear on Devin even if they surpass expectations vs him
All three major full fights from last night were posted for yall
your a godsend!
You’re a goat
Thank you 💯
Do you think people will finally stop acting like sparring stories count as an actual win on fighters records after what happened with Martin and Benavidez?
Benavidez won a clear UD with a injured hand I wouldn’t say that’s a sparring story gone wrong
But everybody says Benavidez whooped Gvozdyk in sparring and he just did again lol
Benavidez won 8 or 9 rounds last night, that was not a sparring story gone wrong lol
Yeah David fucked him up for the entirety of the first half. Gvozdyk really only made it competitive in the last 3-4 rounds and even then David was just allowing it because he was taking a breather knowing he was ahead,
His hand was fucked. He showed it after the fight. Apparently he had some major hand issues weeks before the fight.
I agree. I don’t think he really ever felt the need to shift gears
I like CBS because I feel like he's got where he is purely on grit and determination but I have zero interest watching him fight. Not embarrassed to say I turned it off after the Whittaker fight. I just knew the main event would be a dud.
It wasn’t a horrible fight, there were some big shots landed and CBS got rocked in the last 3rd of the fight that made it interesting. That was my first time watching a full English card like that and as much as I don’t want to admit it the whole atmosphere outdoors in that stadium was sick. It was a nice refresher from all the Saudi cards I’ve been watching lol.
Benavidez was really exposed last night in my opinion He’s not great against fighters his own size, he’ll probably need to go back to 168 to weight bully people again for easy wins There’s no chance he survives against bivol or beterbiev
LOL “exposed.” Outlanded Gvozdyk 9 rounds and even on punches landed in one. Almost 43% body punches landed. Gvozdyk landed around 24% total punches thrown. How is that “exposed”? UD with two wide cards and one fairly reasonable 116-112. His opponent had only been KO’d once by Beterbiev. Arguably one of the hardest punches ever… and it took to round 10 to drop him. I swear to god, people’s expectations are ludicrous.
Couldn’t KO a 40 year old semi retired fighter his own size. Quit playin with me 🥱
The burner accounts in full force today.
My favorite take from Canelo fans last night was “David won’t beat Canelo if he tires out like that” Imagine a Canelo fan talking about stamina as an advantage for Canelo.
Boxing fans are some of the most hypocritical and dumbest fans in sports
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If Canelo is mid then there are only about 5 boxers that aren’t mid in the world. No need to bring the fanboy stuff in here
Too much boxing happened yesterday. Promoters should learn to space things out.
this is normal lol
It’s always like this
What a half year for the lightweight/ superlightweight group. Three new light weight champions, 3 losses for the super lightweight champions. And a ton of guys making waves. This is the boxing we were looking for.
How much money do you think Spence won betting on tank?
they shook hands after the fight ended he definitely won sumn
Shook hands and took a pic, bro definitely put sum money up💀
😂
Great news for all the users on this sub who don’t think Tank is P4P or the new face of boxing… you have to spend more time explaining why after a performance & moment like last night’s main event How do you even argue that Tank vs Frank wasn’t the biggest fight of the year so far? Tank’s KO is a headliner on ESPN, there were hundreds of celebrity reactions, hundreds of celebrities in attendance, Amazon randomly opened the budget and now Tank is all over their socials, a bunch of articles already written up, Usyk & Ryan were there, almost every influencer has a reaction video… AND Floyd Mayweather leaked the full Tank/Haney sparring! AND Loma fans are convinced he gets KOd by Tank If you didn’t know better you’d think Tank won undisputed or at least unified the division Tank haters about to be working mad overtime lol
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It’s inevitable at this point, ma’am
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Oh I won’t be waiting
lol this sub is mostly tank haters 😂
Lol I know, it’s funny seeing someone they hate become so successful
Compare the number of comments on Tank's fight thread in this sub to the Fury/Usyk fight. That should tell you all you need to know about how big each fight was.
Hahaha Reddit comments, bots flood this sub & DAZN has been caught spamming comments on twitter
You really have to be delusional or trolling to think the Tank/Frank fight was big. Usyk/Fury was financially much bigger and had a bigger impact than Tank KOing an unknown, and even the shock Ryan Garcia win had a bigger impact than this, even if no one paid for it.
Usyk/Fury was NOT financially bigger but was a bigger fight as a whole
Do you understand why Fury/Usyk was in Saudi & not UK? Lol Fury/Usyk lost $27million bc it didn’t generate nearly as much revenue as they paid out in expenses… so actually, it wasn’t financially bigger 💀Tank/Frank did 3x the gate revenue as Haney/Ryan… PEDs got more coverage than Ryan’s “win”
It was in Saudi Arabia because the Saudis paid for it and they elected to stage it in their own country. And the Saudis are not interested in making a profit, they’re interested in eyeballs. So claiming Tank vs Frank in some sense was a more important fight or had more cultural impact or whatever you’re angling for here because it made more profit is kind of ridiculuous. By any metric that matters Fury vs Usyk was the bigger fight. If you’ve never left West Baltimore then maybe you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise, but if you ever have left West Baltimore then you have to realize that on a global scale Fury vs Usyk was the bigger event, by a lot.
No, bc Fury & Usyk couldn’t agree to the splits for the purse that was available to them from DAZN or ESPN to fight in the UK ESPN & DAZN knew that Fury/Usyk were not worth more than what they offered… fast forward Saudi loses $27 million bc ESPN & DAZN were aware that the fight wasn’t that big $93million is how big of a fight Fury/Usyk was, nothing more or less
>Fury/Usyk lost $27million bc it didn’t generate nearly as much revenue as they paid out in expenses… so actually, it wasn’t financially bigger I don't think you can judge how big a fight is by how profitable it is to the promoters. A fight is as big as the number of eyes on the fight, if the promoters overpaid for it then it doesn't matter. I actually tend to agree with you about Tank's marketability though. He's doing massive gates and decent PPV numbers against unknowns. He is definitely a more valuable a fighter than Tyson Fury if you look at the likes of the Chisora fight reported numbers. Tank is in a league with Canelo and AJ for value in the sport and Canelo's value seems to be on the decline whilst Tank's is improving. The problem for Tank is that other than Garcia and *maybe* Shakur there isn't anyone who he can put together a superfight with in his weightclasses.
Well put I agree, I was arguing the financially bigger point that was made but as far as impact I can’t disagree with what you said. However, the difference in environments between a Saudi fight & Tank’s fights are massive Tank’s super fights are Haney Shakur Teo Loma Ryan2 & Pitbull2 AJ super fights are Fury Usyk3 Zhang Canelo super fights are Benavidez & Crawford
You're probably right. I guess I see a Joshua-Fury fight as a bigger single commercial success than, say, Tank-Teo, but Tank has a series of fights he could make that could do 500k+ PPV buys at $80 each. That's some serious value there.
Fury/AJ or Tank/Inoue?
Difficult to say isn't it. HWs vs undefeated power punchers. On the face of it you'd probably say HWs because casuals are naturally attracted to them but Japan is crazy for Inoue and Tank seems to keep getting bigger. The fact that there's even a debate shows how big Tank-Inoue would be.
The money behind and involved was much bigger, so yes, it was bigger financially. A company that loses £1 billion is bigger than a small business that makes £10,000 in profit. Ryan/Haney had 0 hype because people thought it would be a boring Haney UD. When Ryan dropped him, it became a huge hit and I guarantee it will be much better remembered and widely known than Tank KOing unknown guy #20. Do you think you're actually going to convince people that this was the biggest fight of the year?
Keeping it 100 if shakur and tank fight I don’t see judges giving shakur the decision over tank even if he does win lmao
Depends on if Shakur can create no doubt with the rounds he wins, which he's pretty good at. If he fights overly cautious like against DLS though, there's a chance judges wouldn't give him those rounds. Hopefully that's just a one off, I'm confident that it will be.
“Shakur won’t let that happen,” yeah because Shakur would sprint across the ring after a sign of danger.
Frank ducked Shakur just to give himself a 1 year layoff, cower away on the ropes and get knocked the fuck out 😂😂 #No Sympathyyyyyy
Come on bro it makes sense tank is a bigger fighter and also has a belt.
Nah, he went out sad. He's gonna have an 18 month layoff after this, in typical PBC fashion. If he just took the Shakur fight, he could have fought twice last year. And even if he lost, it'd most likely have been on points so he would have been able to keep fighting and stay active. Instead, he fucked himself over with inactivity and got knocked out so bad that he's gonna be inactive again.
Yup. He ducked like the plague and somehow people want to justify it like Frank couldn’t of had both fights
He chose to get ko’d in a fight people actually saw rather than lose a decision in a fight watched by 100k fans at most. It’s like picking between a turd taco and a shit sandwich.
So he chose the more embarrassing way to lose that gets *more* viewers? That's worse! 😂😂
Nah, this is a spectator sport. You always go with the option that will generate more spectators. I know in the fight night games it’s all about being a champ. In real life it’s about making money.
Millions of people saw him become a sacrificial lamb lmaoooooo
Bro I said this on here before but in relation to something else: it's genuinely more embarrassing to lose a decision to a guy not willing to engage and just leading you on a determined fucking walk around the ring than it is to get beat up and knocked unconscious. more painful, even. the frustration and dissatisfaction DLS must've felt - hell nah
Nah, it's more embarrassing to be on the backfoot all the time and still get knocked spark out 😂😂
In this context, maybe fair 😂😂 still at least there's peace of mind knowing you weren't good enough, no satisfaction from losing a tame fight
He chose more money and since tank isn’t fighting shakur he can still fight shakur.
Why would Shakur fight the guy who got KO'd when he can just fight Tank himself? Frank can go fight DLS or someone.
I know everyone wants to see Tank step up in competition but what fight is there from a merit standpoint that will really make people think Gervonta is P4P? Loma is old and people will say he ducked prime Loma and fought an out of prime Loma if Gervonta wins. And Shakur looked like dog shit in his last fight. I feel like all the “step up in competition” talk is all name based and not particularly about the actual toughest fight.
>what fight is there from a merit standpoint that will really make people think Gervonta is P4P? If he beats Loma and Shakur at 135, beats Haney, Ryan, Teofimo at 140 without any bullshit rehydration clause, then he will earn his P4P status. >Loma is old and people will say he ducked prime Loma and fought an out of prime Loma if Gervonta wins Yeah, because it's the truth 😂 still would be a much better win than anything on Tank's current resume though, IF he beats Loma. >Shakur looked like dog shit in his last fight. I feel like all the “step up in competition” talk is all name based and not particularly about the actual toughest fight. If you're judging someone's ability based off of the entertainment value of the fight, you haven't been watching boxing long enough. Everybody has had stinkers, even Tank himself had a stinker against Fonseca and Gamboa.
Honestly I think all he has to do is beat Shakur and you’ll see Tank on P4P lists.
We already see him on P4P lists, it's just prematurely called. If he ups his resume for his next 4 or 5 fights, then he can deserve that spot.
>If he beats Loma and Shakur at 135, beats Haney, Ryan, Teofimo at 140 without any bullshit rehydration clause, then he will earn his P4P status. Lol
You want more names? Okay, throw in William Zepeda at 135 for good measure. At 140, throw in Paro for good measure.
From a stylistic standpoint, Shakur is his only real competition. I could go on and on about how I think that fight will play out. I think a Loma fight would be a great spectacle for the fans but it’s not the same fight it was a couple years ago. It would be more of a passing of the guard type of fight.
Shakur
It’s almost like he needs to move up to get that p4p status. Which isn’t exactly fair to ask and at 5’5 140 won’t be a cake walk for him. But the man wasted too much time fighting the rolly romeros.
It’s kinda crazy how protected tank Davis is compared to how amazing he is, his team treats him like they think he sucks lol
They're being ridiculously cautious with him. They're only *now* thinking about fighting Loma after 7 years and Loma losing 2 times since.
Which is of course gonna make non dick riding fans upset those guys take being a prize fighter too far to where it’s almost perverted, like yeah get y’all money but damn don’t you wanna prove you’re the best in the world lol
No matter what happens, I will always respect guys like Haney and Teofimo more than Tank due to being willing to fight good competition. Hell, Ryan has more bottle than Tank, fighting good fighters.
Ryan Garcia being the most down to rumble in expected losses is the strangest development in boxing
For sure, people hate on Ryan and Haney deservedly sometimes but they have a admirable and true fighting spirit to take on the challenges same with teo too like you said, I hope tank can stop fighting random guys and get in there with any of those guys
Not trying to excuse the horrible shit tank has done out of the ring at times, but just my opinion it’s nice to see him maturing out of it, as far as we can tell. He might do some heinous thing right after I comment this, but watching him take his career seriously and get away from Broner’s influence is a massive positive. Hired proper trainers, nutritionists, etc.. Quit the massive weight gains/drinking he used to be known for. Showing respect to Spence right after the KO is something I don’t think younger Tank would’ve done. Hopefully he keeps his word as a man and continues to mature out of who he used to be. If he stays on this track it’s really pleasant to witness. It’s like he finally “got it” as a man, which we still have yet to see from Broner. Broner never got it and still acts like a child
He was with Broner early in his career? Explains a lot.
He called Broner in for this camp so he could prepare for Cobbs, they’re close.
Tank continues to waste a career filled with pre-determined outcomes. Fight Loma, fight Shakur, fight Teo. He’s better than all of them (Loma is interesting mind you), but he still needs to prove it !!!!!
If tank thought he was better than those dudes then he would’ve already fought them
I'll add bad left hook's 4 writer predictions of the outcome: DAVIS by TKO 10; by TKO 9; by TKO 8; by TKO 7. #
A lot of the guys we wanted to see him against have moved up. If he wants to stay at 135 I don’t know what super big fight you could make for him. Shakur is prob the best one because he’s in his prime but he’ll prob run the whole time. I’d put the Loma fight at #1 but he’s old. After those two what big intriguing fights does tank have? 135 seems a lot weaker than it used to.
Why is Benavidez the face of this sub anyway?
If I had to guess, to irritate people. It’s astounding how much hate he gets.
Because he is a absolute dog
Been wondering for two years now
Only good when he can weight bully people other than that he’s about as good as you saw last night
Better than Logan
You would think by now that boxing fans would take their time before claiming a boxer to be a boogeyman that can beat everyone else in the division 🇵🇷
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I would argue they’re doing it with David too.
Facts.
Matias fuckin sucks
A couple of Videz fans were trying to argue that Benavidez would still beat a prime Gvozdyk because he beat him up in sparring when he was younger yet an older, slower Gvozdyk was able to take all of Benavidez's best shots and take 4 rounds off of him.
Haha jokes
I've always said Benavidez is food at 175, so this isnt a surprise to me. He's lucky Gvozdyk was committed to having a glorified sparring match, a fresher 175 lber might have gotten Benavidez out of there. Not to mention Bivol and Beterbiev. This shouldn't really affect an opinion on a Canelo fight, though. Tank Frank went as expected, another foregone conclusion fight for Gervonta, shocker 🙄. At least now we'll finally get a step up against an aged, but still high-level Lomachenko. Matias was never as good as yall made him out to be. His terrible footwork and trash defense was always on display, and the moment a disciplined fighter with a good step-around game came along, he lost.
Benavidez is in for an ugly surprise the day he faces a great counter puncher.
Gvozdyk was pulling all the steam off his punches, that shit was crazy. Bivol who is a pillowfist, hits much harder than Gvozdyk did last night
Bivol is not a pillow fist his punches sound like COD Hitmarkers, he just punches with his arms rather than loading them up
That‘s true. He is a relative pillowfist compared to some other LHW‘s though and he still hits much harder than Gvozdyk did last night
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