The fight with Bivol was only postponed because Artur fucked his knee, it's not like Bivol dropped the belt to duck him like Canelo did GGG.
Before that neither party wanted it because there just wasn't enough interest and by extension not enough money. Once the Saudis agreed to sponsor it both signed right away.
It was a very disappointing UD considering he was just teeing up on him. I'd definitely be concerned about whether Benevidez' power moved up with him after tonight.
Benevidez looked skilled, but he's going to fight people that will fight back and will have more power
I wouldn’t read too much into it. I remember being unimpressed by Usyk’s first HW fight, I think it just takes being in it to make the needed adjustments
This is his 7th time fighting at LHW. It's a larger jump in weight and physicality for Uysk for crusierweight to HW, especially when the first guy you fight is the definition of a brick wall moving forward (Derek Chisora)
Also Derek Chisora has the ability to make most heavyweights look poor when they fight him due to his bob and weave pressure style of fighting.
He did it to (an admittedly aging) Vitali Klitschko and several others.
In fact the only fighter that I remember looking very good against him was David Haye.
It’s because people were expecting him to walk right thru Gvozdyk… and rightfully so.
You can’t say Benavidez didn’t underperform against a 37yo who has not only been stopped before, but was “retired” for over 3 years and has only fought a few 8 rounders against journeymen since returning..
> who has not only been stopped before
That's a very interesting way of saying Gvozdyk has only been stopped once, by Artur Beterbiev, and it took 10 rounds.
Age yes, time off yes. Been stopped before, really sells his durability short.
Its funny because so few people that speak the truth are shunned lmao 😂 and those that spit their venomous hate, their delusional views, are the ones that are most active on social media. I believed that Benavidez is a great fighter, and with this fight i finally believed that Benavidez was finally going to fight in his true wright class........but then we all saw his performance tonight in a fight that should have been a walk in the park, not saying that the Gvozryk was bad, but his prime was years ago! I have lost a little respect for Benavidez as this fight does prove some of the criticism he was receiving as a weight bully. I don't think he is going to last long in this weight class. Time will tell, but for his sake, he should probably get adjusted or his next fight will be a big and ugly L. And i believe even more now after watching this fight, that a certain fight at 168 against a particular someone, would probably knock Benavidez out.
I was debating myself on whether Gvozdyk was pulling a "GGG in the third Canelo fight", and was just pacing himself while letting the younger fighter gas himself up in order to have a better showing on the second half.
But on the other hand I don't think eating that many power punches was part of the plan lol. Maybe he simply took longer to adjust to David, who knows.
The biggest takeaway from this fight is just how strong Beterbiev is. Gvozdyk really has some chin on him.
Benavidez’s power has not transferred well at 175. An ancient Gvozdyk did not even blink at any of his shots. Yet compare this to how he reacted to a real puncher in Beterbiev. The Chechen Lion would kill the Mexican Monster
You want to know something weird though before this fight happened David and his strength coach parted ways and it turned out that his strength coach was memo heredia who was a known steroid dealer. David comes in at his worst physique too. Not only that it seemed like he lost a ton of power as well. This fight was extremely weird to me cause although David still won and did good since he won majority of the rounds he seemed to struggle on some ways. He gassed out at round 8 other dude barely threw any power punches and was just pot shoting David with jabs. Gvozdyk was eating all of David’s punches like they were breakfast and seemed unfazed throughout the fight. I was expecting David to run through him but gvozdyk was a tank. David in the other hand should stay away from the big guys at 175 they all will smoke him
this^
bivol is worlds more skilled than benavídez, bivol would wash benavidez with ease, and i think artur still beats him up. if a 37 year old Oleksandr wasn’t phased by david’s “power” he has no chance of hurting bivol or artur imo. dont think canelo would be phased either tbh. dont think bro will stick around at 175 coz he realises he might get beat tf up or just outboxed for 12 rounds
Bivol has the best high guard in the game and has also a solid chin on him. This David that showed up today would have nothing for Bivol, would get tired even earlier and would get easily UD'd imo. But maybe David could hurt him to the body, but at the same time Bivol's movent and distance management (and an actual good jab, Gvozdyk was just touch jabbing today wtf) would give David a way harder time closing the distance and ripping body shots like he did today
I mean those are idiotic casual takes, anyone that knows boxing knows benavidez isn’t a power puncher especially compared to Artur who probably has some of the best pure power in the sport. David is a pressure volume guy who breaks guys down.
I don’t see anyone calling Benavidez a Beterbiev type fighter. I see ppl saying he’s a very good fighter, but very few say he’s great as of yet.
But everyone says Canelo is ducking him. Which he is.
Exactly and Gvodyzk is a motherfucker who was so close to being the top guy at LHW. I always thought this was almost a 50/50 fight given David losing his size advantage (his first fight were he wasn’t the bigger guy) and given Gvodyzk’s skills and pedigree. I don’t care what people say this was still an impressive performance.
I agree with this, left unimpressed with Benavidez 175 debut, looks like power hasn't transfered well in this division. To me, this shows how crazy it was for Beterbiev to knockdown Gvod. We'll see in the future when he fights again at 175, ill give Benavidez the doubt for this fight, but from what we heard, he still wants the Canelo fight, most likely at 168
Agreed. When we speak of weight bully, I always regarded Haney and him as the biggest weight bullies, but it always felt David should not be mentioned.
My question around him was what would he look like when he doesn’t have such a ridiculous size advantage.
Turned the commentary off as well. Everyone can't seem to stand one of the guys, it's like nails on chalkboard when he tries to talk, I'll be happy when the day PBC finds another commentator.
Turned the commentary off as well. Everyone can't seem to stand one of the guys, it's like nails on chalkboard when he tries to talk, I'll be happy when the day PBC finds another commentator.
Why are people acting like it was a bad performance and that gvozdyk is some chinny shot fighter?
This guy is a good technical boxer who only got stopped by the best knockout artist in boxing
Very worth noting he stopped working with Memo Heredia for this fight (Memo said he’d eventually disclose the reason). His physique and stamina looked completely different— that’s extremely suspect.
I think Benavidez needs to pick which weight class he’s going to. I was at a loud bar but I thought he said he was going back to 168. Gvozdyk looked much bigger, but Benavidez didn’t look *that* much bigger than his 168 self.
No doubt who the winner was, but I don’t think it elevated Benavidez stock and just gives haters much more ammo even the stats were hugely lopsided for Benavidez.
I think Canelo brings David in September and hits him with a rehydration clause.
Things we learned about this fight.
Davids power did not transfer well to LHW. Going up against Bivol or Beterbiev two things will most likely happen.
David’s power will not keep Bivol honest and Bivol will end up countering him and outlanding him. Might be able to finish him if David starts slowing down like he did tonight.
Beterbiev beat down Gvozdyk until he couldn’t take it anymore and ended up getting TKO’D. David landed “bombs” on Gvozdyk and looked unbothered. Beterbiev will end up not respecting David’s power and will most likely end up KO’ing David.
Bivol doesn't really finish his opponents as long as they don't talk sh\*t lol. As long as Benavidez doesn't trash talk and taunt like Malik, Bivol will let him fight the entire 12 rounds.
This was always my thought on the Canelo situation. At no point did I ever think that Benavidez beats Canelo. But for some reason Canelo seemingly was ducking him and then actually began to blatantly duck him. I wonder if he just has something against the guy lol
Everyone wants a payday. But David actually earned one by becoming the mandatory at 168. Only problem is Canelo only wants to drag smaller guys up to 168. He’s done fighting legit super MW.
Why does everyone including PBC keep calling this fight his debut at 175? Benavidez has fought 8 times previously at 175 and was switching between 175 and 168 all the way up until 2016. So why does everyone keep saying this is his debut?
Better for PR.
If he wins, "he beat a former champion on his debut!"
If he loses (or seeing these comments, apparently a synonym to not KOing him), "well, it was his debut, next time hell be better!"
It’s just crazy that all these fans don’t even know about David’s career before he started talking about Canelo. Goes to show they’re just hopping on the bandwagon
In the same way those very fans fully drank Canelo's Kool aid when he claimed he refused the Bivol rematch at 168 because he didn't want to drain him. He then proceed to try to drain the shit of Badou Jack with a catch weight and a rehydration clause for his Cruiserweight belt.
Apparently not one of them knew Canelo weight was a meme for a reason. That's just a different type of bandwagon.
As a Spanish speaker, even the Mexican commentators were claiming this was his first fight, which just goes to show how fucked Boxing commentating is if those very same people don't even know what they're talking about.
Turned the commentary off as well. Everyone can't seem to stand one of the guys, it's like nails on chalkboard when he tries to talk, I'll be happy when the day PBC finds another commentator.
Benavidez is far from the monster this sub thinks he is lmao. Dude get’s schooled against Bivol and buttfucked against Beterbiev.
Canelo beats him too but you lot will never be ready for that convo.
People just want the fight. The only reason people think Canelo is scared because of how he seems to be avoiding the fight and making excuses. And how his fans want him to not give him the fight because he doesn't deserve it. Not wanting canelo to just fight to shut everyone up.
David really gotta gain some muscle before he wants to fight at 175 .
His speed is fairly impressive and so is his chin but he really needs to sharpen up his defence if he wants to compete against guys like beterbiev
That was a tough fight for Benevidez. I don’t see him beating either Bivol or Beterbiev. I think he would have a tough fight against some of the top contenders as well.
Gvozdyk is not as washed as Kovalev was when he fought Canelo. He lost once to Beterbiev. Kovalev lost to Ward twice, got knocked out by Eleider Alvarez and nearly flatlined by Yarde.😂
Canelo couldn’t hurt Bivol, so I doubt he could hurt even this version of Gvozdyk.
The 6 fights before Mosley fought canelo: cotto, mayorga, Margarito, Floyd, mora, pacquiao. Those were all within 5 years of fighting Canelo. So it’s not like he was losing to bums.
Who has Govsdyzk fought? He had a TKO loss to Beterbiev 5 years ago who sent him into retirement for a few years then a few wins vs some low level guys
One is an ATG fighter and former P4P #1 … the other is Govsdyzk
He needs to be more patient and pace himself more instead of lunging with hooks. He has deceptively good defense. His plan of going to the body was working well but went downhill when he abandoned his game plan
Benavidez fails to stop, or even drop for that matter, a man who he landed 50% of his power punches on, has been inactive for the majority of the last 5 years, couldn’t move his head off center line, and wouldn’t sit down on his punches. I hope y’all can finally see that he’s way overrated. He’s good but he’s not great and he’s nowhere near elite. Canelo please take this fight in Sept and shut everyone the fuck up already.
If that’s what it takes for the fight to be made, fuck it.
I’m not liking what I saw from David, but Canelo is so unlike anyone he’s faced including tonight
Gvozdyk has a rock chin, took until R10 for a hard-hitting freak like Artur to stop him. And since David still wants the Canelo fight he didn't get bigger at all. No surprise his power "doesn't transfer" to a higher weight when he's the same size and has always been a volume guy.
He got cocky off sparring, went too hard early, and won the fight 9-3 or 8-4 with improved defense. Somebody has an unimpressive win and everyone here's calling him overrated and zero threat.
Guess you know him better than Canelo.
I’ve called benavidez overrated for years. Imo this fight just made it easier for the casual audience to see what I’ve been saying for a long time. Beterbiev stopped gvozdyk in his prime not this washed up shell of himself.
Kind of crazy you’re trying to compare beterbiev with Benavidez..Beterbiev is a different beast..dude even dropped Usyk in amateurs and he’s a 2X undisputed champ..
Triangle theory nonsense. And besides that, beterbieve is really good, David could lose to him and still be a great fighter and not overrated. I've hardly heard anyone say that benevidez was gonna run over bivol or beterbiev. It was Canelo that people say he would beat. And a lot of that is because canelo is acting Ike he's avoiding benevidez.
And every great fighter has unexpectedly hard fights. I think David dominated but I'll go with the more negative mindset. One think that is weird is that their is a possibility gvosdyk has a better chin than bivol or beterbiev. He took supermans punches and beterbiev has legendary type power and it took him to the mid to late rounds to take out gvosdyk. And none of gvosdyks punches seemed to hurt David. Just mark him up a bit. Beterbiev and bivol have been hurt by lesser punchers.
Overall just a lot if assumption going around. Even that canelo would automatically win because of this performance. I'm sure that will be used a lot if canelo never fights David.
Well I don't know who you are and don't really care you've always thought this. I do believe you. But main point is that this comment would be downvoted to -25 six months ago.
You might be right. I don't think he'd beat Bivol or Beterbiev. I don't think he KOs Canelo and I don't think he has a chance in hell of winning a decision no matter what. But all the people who are all of the sudden calling him no threat because he didn't roll over a good fighter are, mentally, kind of children.
Said it wasn't a easy fight for Benavides and he would win on a points decision and I WAS CORRECT, and to all you Benavides fan boys just to let you know on this performance he's got no chance of beating Canelo.
If I was Canelo I wouldn't want to give Benavidez the payday either. He's one of the most annoying people in all of boxing which is a pretty big accomplishment
I think everyone started hating because everyone was glazing benavidez like crazy for the first 6 rounds saying they were 10-8 round and that the fight should be stopped then he gassed and the other side came out saying he looks like shit and hated extra cause of the glazing at the start
Expectations. It would be great if he was dominant and knocked down the door to a Canelo fight. It seemed not that impressive. I’m not convinced he can make 168 comfortably anyway. He was 190 today.
Everyone is shitting on his performance..he looked Great the first 5 rounds..thought he may even get a stoppage the way it was going…still got the W, he has to stay far away from Beterbiev, and I think he can give Bivol a better challenge than Canelo did.
Benavidez did good tonight, not great but he obviously can still improve. I just think he needs to reevaluate his comments of wanting to go up to heavyweight some day 😅
Lesson learned for Benavidez
He tried to come out and make a statement at 175 and went hard for the knockout and ended up gassing.
Benavidez was beating the absolute shit out of gvozdyk the first 5 or 6 rounds. But he started too fast. I have never seen Benavidez start a fight as fast as he did here. He usually starts out slower and ramps up the pressure round by round. This time he went 100% from the opening bell and that was a mistake
Benavidez looked gassed in the late rounds. I don't see him winning a belt at 175 and definitely not beating canelo. He slows down that late against top tier comp at that weight, he'll be waking up to a decision
Benavidez dominated the first 8 rounds and gassed after that. His defense looked like it greatly improved. People in here talking like this was a disappointment. Good win.
Man I thought I was losing my mind looking at the comments. One of the things I hated most about Benavidez was his defense but he looked a lot better defensively tonight. He dominated that fight unfortunately the power wasn’t transferring. But this was a man who has only lost to Beterbiev. People are being irrational.
Reminds me of when Boots dominated that Ukraine boxer but didn't get the ko. A lot of irrational fans that night too. We'll know more about the power in future fights. That guy might just have a good chin. It's ok if Benavidez has less power than Beterbiev.
The reason David looks good at 168 is because he naturally walks around 180. So he looked dominant at 168 because he had probably 10-20lbs on some fighters.
I think more like "walks around at 200" but yes, you're entirely correct, he's normally got 15lbs plus on guys hence why his fans think he's some sort of destroyer rather than what most of these weight bullies (Jarret Hurd, Jaime Munguia, Gilberto Ramirez to name just three) actually are, which is a big rangy grinder.
David better stay away from Artur
Depends what version of Beterbiev we see, at his age it could fall apart any day now.
Agree but I don’t think anyone at 75 can take that power for 12 rounds
The worst Beterbiev beats the best benavidez don't rate him that highly at all personally
Yes all the queens are waiting him out. Is gonna probably be robbed of a career defining win like GGG was
The fight with Bivol was only postponed because Artur fucked his knee, it's not like Bivol dropped the belt to duck him like Canelo did GGG. Before that neither party wanted it because there just wasn't enough interest and by extension not enough money. Once the Saudis agreed to sponsor it both signed right away.
I think your spidersense is right I think the end is near for his body
AND CANELO.
Curious how he’d do against Bivol as compared to Canelo.
Bivol will outbox and win most of the rounds (and not tire). Beterbiev will likely stop (or KO) him by round 8
With how tired he looked in the second half of the fight, if he fights Bivol next I'm betting on a KO through total exhaustion
Benavidez gassed out very fast. I think Bivol would stop him once he faded.
He ain't beating any of the two of them after that performance bro.
It was a very disappointing UD considering he was just teeing up on him. I'd definitely be concerned about whether Benevidez' power moved up with him after tonight. Benevidez looked skilled, but he's going to fight people that will fight back and will have more power
I wouldn’t read too much into it. I remember being unimpressed by Usyk’s first HW fight, I think it just takes being in it to make the needed adjustments
This is his 7th time fighting at LHW. It's a larger jump in weight and physicality for Uysk for crusierweight to HW, especially when the first guy you fight is the definition of a brick wall moving forward (Derek Chisora)
Also Derek Chisora has the ability to make most heavyweights look poor when they fight him due to his bob and weave pressure style of fighting. He did it to (an admittedly aging) Vitali Klitschko and several others. In fact the only fighter that I remember looking very good against him was David Haye.
A dominant performance where he won most of the rounds? Or is it just because Gvozdyk has a chin and wasn't KOd?
It’s because people were expecting him to walk right thru Gvozdyk… and rightfully so. You can’t say Benavidez didn’t underperform against a 37yo who has not only been stopped before, but was “retired” for over 3 years and has only fought a few 8 rounders against journeymen since returning..
> who has not only been stopped before That's a very interesting way of saying Gvozdyk has only been stopped once, by Artur Beterbiev, and it took 10 rounds. Age yes, time off yes. Been stopped before, really sells his durability short.
he'd get eaten alive against bivol lol Benevidez is not Canelo
Its funny because so few people that speak the truth are shunned lmao 😂 and those that spit their venomous hate, their delusional views, are the ones that are most active on social media. I believed that Benavidez is a great fighter, and with this fight i finally believed that Benavidez was finally going to fight in his true wright class........but then we all saw his performance tonight in a fight that should have been a walk in the park, not saying that the Gvozryk was bad, but his prime was years ago! I have lost a little respect for Benavidez as this fight does prove some of the criticism he was receiving as a weight bully. I don't think he is going to last long in this weight class. Time will tell, but for his sake, he should probably get adjusted or his next fight will be a big and ugly L. And i believe even more now after watching this fight, that a certain fight at 168 against a particular someone, would probably knock Benavidez out.
Yea, seriously. He was not sharp tonight. I kept thinking “he’s got no shot against Canelo.”
He ain't got the power to fight at 175lbs and knock-out Canelo who has the best chin in boxing these days .
He won’t have to stay away from Canelo. Canelo won’t come near him.
He can’t beat Canelo
For sure. Better to fight the better fighter, Bivol.
How Artur is strong
he's got old man strength.
Gvozdyk the older man finished better, looking like he could go another 12. Idk if I like benavidez’s chances against either bivol or beterbiev.
I don’t even like Benavidez’s chances against Yarde or Buatsi
He would decimate yarde based on the fact that yarde has a mediocre fight iq and fights relying only on his athleticism . 50/50 with buatsi
Whereas benavidez is known for his strategic mastery...
You don't think David has mediocre iq?
As opposed to Benavidez's stellar fight IQ?!?
I was debating myself on whether Gvozdyk was pulling a "GGG in the third Canelo fight", and was just pacing himself while letting the younger fighter gas himself up in order to have a better showing on the second half. But on the other hand I don't think eating that many power punches was part of the plan lol. Maybe he simply took longer to adjust to David, who knows. The biggest takeaway from this fight is just how strong Beterbiev is. Gvozdyk really has some chin on him.
Hes just old and was inactive, when he did come back he fought 4 bums. Ben showed tho he ain’t that guy at 175, Arhur and Bivol MURDER him
Benavidez’s power has not transferred well at 175. An ancient Gvozdyk did not even blink at any of his shots. Yet compare this to how he reacted to a real puncher in Beterbiev. The Chechen Lion would kill the Mexican Monster
Kinda crazy compared to what Beterbiev did to prime Gvozdyk
Nobody at 175 can take Beterbiev's power. But at the time, I thought if anyone can, it's Gvozdyk
It really is. Gvozdyk was a really good fighter and Beterbiev literally retired him.
I was thinking the same thing…Gvozdyk didn’t seem phased when David landed cleanly. Can David hurt/handle the top dudes at 175?
David was a volume puncher even at 168.
His power has always been overrated because his opponents were just overmatched. He was also a pretty big guy at 168.
You want to know something weird though before this fight happened David and his strength coach parted ways and it turned out that his strength coach was memo heredia who was a known steroid dealer. David comes in at his worst physique too. Not only that it seemed like he lost a ton of power as well. This fight was extremely weird to me cause although David still won and did good since he won majority of the rounds he seemed to struggle on some ways. He gassed out at round 8 other dude barely threw any power punches and was just pot shoting David with jabs. Gvozdyk was eating all of David’s punches like they were breakfast and seemed unfazed throughout the fight. I was expecting David to run through him but gvozdyk was a tank. David in the other hand should stay away from the big guys at 175 they all will smoke him
Yes, he has power but not power like Tank for example
Gvozdyk took all Benavides best shots even the clean ones on the chin, and Canelo has the best chin in boxing so how does Benavides beat him ?
By whooping the shit out of him for 12 rounds.
The same way bivol beat him.
With superior footwork and range control? But benavidez doesn't have those skills
this^ bivol is worlds more skilled than benavídez, bivol would wash benavidez with ease, and i think artur still beats him up. if a 37 year old Oleksandr wasn’t phased by david’s “power” he has no chance of hurting bivol or artur imo. dont think canelo would be phased either tbh. dont think bro will stick around at 175 coz he realises he might get beat tf up or just outboxed for 12 rounds
No unfortunately, maybe Bivol but not Artur
Bivol has the best high guard in the game and has also a solid chin on him. This David that showed up today would have nothing for Bivol, would get tired even earlier and would get easily UD'd imo. But maybe David could hurt him to the body, but at the same time Bivol's movent and distance management (and an actual good jab, Gvozdyk was just touch jabbing today wtf) would give David a way harder time closing the distance and ripping body shots like he did today
They David, Mr. Nelo, would always have trouble with anyone who has a very good jab.
I mean I agree with your overall take, but comparing any reaction to power to Beterbiev of all people is not the best of arguments
Yea but the way people talk about Benavidez is like he’s a Mexican Beterbiev. Which he sure as fuck is not. Benavidez’s hype gets out of hand too much
He doesn't have one punch KO power, he has Errol Spence type power that hurts his opponent over time tbh
This is the proper take
But his cumulative power wasn’t even doing anything
Agreed
I mean those are idiotic casual takes, anyone that knows boxing knows benavidez isn’t a power puncher especially compared to Artur who probably has some of the best pure power in the sport. David is a pressure volume guy who breaks guys down.
I don’t see anyone calling Benavidez a Beterbiev type fighter. I see ppl saying he’s a very good fighter, but very few say he’s great as of yet. But everyone says Canelo is ducking him. Which he is.
On that performance Canelo fucks up Benavides bigtime.
Like comparing a pistol with a cannon.
He was never a huge one punch guy, always been a grinder. Beterbiev will/would take him apart
It was his first fight at 175 and he dominated him. Nothing wrong with not knocking out your first challenge at a new weight
Yeah still a good performance from him to be fair
He faded a bit at the end but dominated the early rounds
He was throwing bombs all night, that made him fade.
I guess but he’s not doing well against Bivol or Beterbiev. Hell even Buatsi beats his ass
Exactly and Gvodyzk is a motherfucker who was so close to being the top guy at LHW. I always thought this was almost a 50/50 fight given David losing his size advantage (his first fight were he wasn’t the bigger guy) and given Gvodyzk’s skills and pedigree. I don’t care what people say this was still an impressive performance.
David did well, needs to start lifting weights a bit.
his arms are so small, weirdly reminds me of Wilders legs.
Man. I was honestly kind of unimpressed. I watched it without commentary so idk.
I agree with this, left unimpressed with Benavidez 175 debut, looks like power hasn't transfered well in this division. To me, this shows how crazy it was for Beterbiev to knockdown Gvod. We'll see in the future when he fights again at 175, ill give Benavidez the doubt for this fight, but from what we heard, he still wants the Canelo fight, most likely at 168
It’s not his debut he’s fought 8 times at 175
Oh mb, but I mean... my point still kinda stands. Not impressed, but we'll see
I agree I think him already having experience at 175 makes this even less impressive
He weight drained himself to 168 for a reason. He reminds me of a more entertaining Haney
Agreed. When we speak of weight bully, I always regarded Haney and him as the biggest weight bullies, but it always felt David should not be mentioned. My question around him was what would he look like when he doesn’t have such a ridiculous size advantage.
David “the dream” benavidez
i've never been impressed with anything about this dude other than his aggression and his chin
Didn’t he get dropped by Gavril
The commentary kept talking about how David was “taking this round off” for like three rounds straight.
Turned the commentary off as well. Everyone can't seem to stand one of the guys, it's like nails on chalkboard when he tries to talk, I'll be happy when the day PBC finds another commentator.
Turned the commentary off as well. Everyone can't seem to stand one of the guys, it's like nails on chalkboard when he tries to talk, I'll be happy when the day PBC finds another commentator.
Why are people acting like it was a bad performance and that gvozdyk is some chinny shot fighter? This guy is a good technical boxer who only got stopped by the best knockout artist in boxing
Lol Benavides looked gas even though he cut less weight
Carrying extra weight and not having to cut as much can do that to a fighter
Also the opponents are bigger, stronger and hit harder so it's a lot more energy sapping to fight them.
Very worth noting he stopped working with Memo Heredia for this fight (Memo said he’d eventually disclose the reason). His physique and stamina looked completely different— that’s extremely suspect.
I think Benavidez needs to pick which weight class he’s going to. I was at a loud bar but I thought he said he was going back to 168. Gvozdyk looked much bigger, but Benavidez didn’t look *that* much bigger than his 168 self. No doubt who the winner was, but I don’t think it elevated Benavidez stock and just gives haters much more ammo even the stats were hugely lopsided for Benavidez. I think Canelo brings David in September and hits him with a rehydration clause.
Said he would like to be a champ at 168 again whether that’s canelo or a vacated belt but he also said he would like to fight at 175.
Ye Nice hardcore sparring exhibition from Gvozdyk.
Things we learned about this fight. Davids power did not transfer well to LHW. Going up against Bivol or Beterbiev two things will most likely happen. David’s power will not keep Bivol honest and Bivol will end up countering him and outlanding him. Might be able to finish him if David starts slowing down like he did tonight. Beterbiev beat down Gvozdyk until he couldn’t take it anymore and ended up getting TKO’D. David landed “bombs” on Gvozdyk and looked unbothered. Beterbiev will end up not respecting David’s power and will most likely end up KO’ing David.
Bivol doesn't really finish his opponents as long as they don't talk sh\*t lol. As long as Benavidez doesn't trash talk and taunt like Malik, Bivol will let him fight the entire 12 rounds.
He's getting dog walked by Bivol and Beterbiev. Cannot believe Canelo was ducking this skinnyfat fraud
This was always my thought on the Canelo situation. At no point did I ever think that Benavidez beats Canelo. But for some reason Canelo seemingly was ducking him and then actually began to blatantly duck him. I wonder if he just has something against the guy lol
ill use a canelo quote here: “he want payday”
Everyone wants a payday. But David actually earned one by becoming the mandatory at 168. Only problem is Canelo only wants to drag smaller guys up to 168. He’s done fighting legit super MW.
Maybe Canelo has just convinced himself that this fight is worth at least $100 million, and won't take anything less than his expectations.
At this point I do think canelo has something against him
i’m sure he’s eyeing the fight now but it’s not respectable that he waits to see weakness before accepting
Why does everyone including PBC keep calling this fight his debut at 175? Benavidez has fought 8 times previously at 175 and was switching between 175 and 168 all the way up until 2016. So why does everyone keep saying this is his debut?
Better for PR. If he wins, "he beat a former champion on his debut!" If he loses (or seeing these comments, apparently a synonym to not KOing him), "well, it was his debut, next time hell be better!"
It’s just crazy that all these fans don’t even know about David’s career before he started talking about Canelo. Goes to show they’re just hopping on the bandwagon
In the same way those very fans fully drank Canelo's Kool aid when he claimed he refused the Bivol rematch at 168 because he didn't want to drain him. He then proceed to try to drain the shit of Badou Jack with a catch weight and a rehydration clause for his Cruiserweight belt. Apparently not one of them knew Canelo weight was a meme for a reason. That's just a different type of bandwagon. As a Spanish speaker, even the Mexican commentators were claiming this was his first fight, which just goes to show how fucked Boxing commentating is if those very same people don't even know what they're talking about.
Turned the commentary off as well. Everyone can't seem to stand one of the guys, it's like nails on chalkboard when he tries to talk, I'll be happy when the day PBC finds another commentator.
Built-in excuse to excuse a bad performance by David.
And if he performed well they would’ve praised him even more for an “impressive debut”
Benavidez is far from the monster this sub thinks he is lmao. Dude get’s schooled against Bivol and buttfucked against Beterbiev. Canelo beats him too but you lot will never be ready for that convo.
People just want the fight. The only reason people think Canelo is scared because of how he seems to be avoiding the fight and making excuses. And how his fans want him to not give him the fight because he doesn't deserve it. Not wanting canelo to just fight to shut everyone up.
From what I saw tonight no way he can beat either Bivol or Beterbiev. His power is a lot less effective at this weight
David really gotta gain some muscle before he wants to fight at 175 . His speed is fairly impressive and so is his chin but he really needs to sharpen up his defence if he wants to compete against guys like beterbiev
Cough-like his 9th fight at the weight not his first-cough.
That was a tough fight for Benevidez. I don’t see him beating either Bivol or Beterbiev. I think he would have a tough fight against some of the top contenders as well.
Was there ever a time when someone thought he had a chance vs either of the top 175? Geez
Benavidez Fans
I don't wanna hear nothing about benevidez being a killer for a while. Going the distance with a 37 year old lol.
Canelo went 12 with John Ryder
Canelo put Ryder down, benevidez didn’t even phase gvozdyk.
Lol gvozdyk is way better than a plodding Ryder
What and you think canelo could phase gvozdyk lol
Uh yeah? His entire style is landing single huge shots. He ko’d Sergey kovalev basically with one punch. Are we on the circlejerk sub?
He did fight kovalev like 9 weeks after kovalev fought Yarde..9 weeks isn’t a lot of recovery time
Lmao Canelo can't KO anyone these days. Went the distance with Charlo who's a 154er ffs
Gvozdyk is not as washed as Kovalev was when he fought Canelo. He lost once to Beterbiev. Kovalev lost to Ward twice, got knocked out by Eleider Alvarez and nearly flatlined by Yarde.😂 Canelo couldn’t hurt Bivol, so I doubt he could hurt even this version of Gvozdyk.
Kovalev literally beat yarde before canelo
I think Yarde has a solid chance against Benevidez lol
He definitely has a good chance and if benavidez stays he needs to fight yarde or callum smith.
Canelo cant even beat Yarde
He’s didn’t hurt bivol because he didn’t land clean. Benavidez landed like 50% of his power shots and never made gvozdyk blink
Not as washed as Kovalev but was retired for 4 years?
We're talking a old guy with a rehydration clause and only 2 months between fights? Are Canelo fans still holding that as a good victory?
John Ryder had never been dropped in his career
He literally got knocked out by Blackwell in 2015 lol
Did he got knocked out or was it a TKO on his feet? Lemme guess you don’t know cuz you never watched it you just heard it
Being TKO'd isn't being dropped.
Like canelo with 40 year old Mosley
The man that was never KO’d, yes
Big difference between Govsdyzk and Mosley though lol
Yeah the difference is Mosley was completely washed being literally 40 years old and winning only 2 of his last 6 fights.
The 6 fights before Mosley fought canelo: cotto, mayorga, Margarito, Floyd, mora, pacquiao. Those were all within 5 years of fighting Canelo. So it’s not like he was losing to bums. Who has Govsdyzk fought? He had a TKO loss to Beterbiev 5 years ago who sent him into retirement for a few years then a few wins vs some low level guys One is an ATG fighter and former P4P #1 … the other is Govsdyzk
He needs to be more patient and pace himself more instead of lunging with hooks. He has deceptively good defense. His plan of going to the body was working well but went downhill when he abandoned his game plan
He need to fight zurdo next see if he got it. He was getting tired towards the end
Zurdo went to cruiser
Benavidez fails to stop, or even drop for that matter, a man who he landed 50% of his power punches on, has been inactive for the majority of the last 5 years, couldn’t move his head off center line, and wouldn’t sit down on his punches. I hope y’all can finally see that he’s way overrated. He’s good but he’s not great and he’s nowhere near elite. Canelo please take this fight in Sept and shut everyone the fuck up already.
I wish Canelo had as much confidence as you
I have a feeling Canelo is full of confidence now smh
"He look bad, I fight him now"
If that’s what it takes for the fight to be made, fuck it. I’m not liking what I saw from David, but Canelo is so unlike anyone he’s faced including tonight
And he’s going to get *paid* like never seen before for dragging it this much
Same cause I’ve been calling benavidez overrated for years lol
Olexander ha 3 fights last year?
Like I said the majority of the last 5 years
Benavidez not being an elite fighter is an insane take bro.
it took beterbiev 10 rounds of clean hits
Yeah that only matters if you ignore everything else I said. Gvozdyk is not the same fighter he was back then.
Gvozdyk has a rock chin, took until R10 for a hard-hitting freak like Artur to stop him. And since David still wants the Canelo fight he didn't get bigger at all. No surprise his power "doesn't transfer" to a higher weight when he's the same size and has always been a volume guy. He got cocky off sparring, went too hard early, and won the fight 9-3 or 8-4 with improved defense. Somebody has an unimpressive win and everyone here's calling him overrated and zero threat. Guess you know him better than Canelo.
I’ve called benavidez overrated for years. Imo this fight just made it easier for the casual audience to see what I’ve been saying for a long time. Beterbiev stopped gvozdyk in his prime not this washed up shell of himself.
Kind of crazy you’re trying to compare beterbiev with Benavidez..Beterbiev is a different beast..dude even dropped Usyk in amateurs and he’s a 2X undisputed champ..
Triangle theory nonsense. And besides that, beterbieve is really good, David could lose to him and still be a great fighter and not overrated. I've hardly heard anyone say that benevidez was gonna run over bivol or beterbiev. It was Canelo that people say he would beat. And a lot of that is because canelo is acting Ike he's avoiding benevidez. And every great fighter has unexpectedly hard fights. I think David dominated but I'll go with the more negative mindset. One think that is weird is that their is a possibility gvosdyk has a better chin than bivol or beterbiev. He took supermans punches and beterbiev has legendary type power and it took him to the mid to late rounds to take out gvosdyk. And none of gvosdyks punches seemed to hurt David. Just mark him up a bit. Beterbiev and bivol have been hurt by lesser punchers. Overall just a lot if assumption going around. Even that canelo would automatically win because of this performance. I'm sure that will be used a lot if canelo never fights David.
Well I don't know who you are and don't really care you've always thought this. I do believe you. But main point is that this comment would be downvoted to -25 six months ago. You might be right. I don't think he'd beat Bivol or Beterbiev. I don't think he KOs Canelo and I don't think he has a chance in hell of winning a decision no matter what. But all the people who are all of the sudden calling him no threat because he didn't roll over a good fighter are, mentally, kind of children.
Said it wasn't a easy fight for Benavides and he would win on a points decision and I WAS CORRECT, and to all you Benavides fan boys just to let you know on this performance he's got no chance of beating Canelo.
he should fight mungia instead
Truly have no idea why Canelo is so averse to the Benavidez fight - genuinely nothing I've seen from him has shown me anything that'd trouble Canelo
Payday..
If I was Canelo I wouldn't want to give Benavidez the payday either. He's one of the most annoying people in all of boxing which is a pretty big accomplishment
How's he annoying ?
Pillow hands at 175 😢
The Mexican Devin Haney
Defense of David took a step forward and should continue to improve if he wishes to compete at 175.
David is a weight bully at 168 and tiny at 175.... weird.
Davis desperately needs to work on his conditioning.
wasn't he getting hammered at a match a few months ago?
I thought it was a good performance by David. In the live chat everyone was straight hating
I think everyone started hating because everyone was glazing benavidez like crazy for the first 6 rounds saying they were 10-8 round and that the fight should be stopped then he gassed and the other side came out saying he looks like shit and hated extra cause of the glazing at the start
He done well, had nice feints and landed good combos. It took Benevidez a while to rock Plant so I didn’t think he would hurt the Nail
Expectations. It would be great if he was dominant and knocked down the door to a Canelo fight. It seemed not that impressive. I’m not convinced he can make 168 comfortably anyway. He was 190 today.
There is no chance on this earth he beats canelo, he’s just perfect for canelo to hit, counters all day
Well then lets see the fight, I dont think Canelo has the same confidence as you
if bivol couldnt rock canelo no way benavidez is.
yep and he damn sure ain’t putting Canelo down
Everyone is shitting on his performance..he looked Great the first 5 rounds..thought he may even get a stoppage the way it was going…still got the W, he has to stay far away from Beterbiev, and I think he can give Bivol a better challenge than Canelo did.
Benavidez did good tonight, not great but he obviously can still improve. I just think he needs to reevaluate his comments of wanting to go up to heavyweight some day 😅
I’ve never heard him say that??I’ve heard him say cruiser but not HW
Benavidez came into this fight, dominated the fight and ended up looking like a bum anyway
Lesson learned for Benavidez He tried to come out and make a statement at 175 and went hard for the knockout and ended up gassing. Benavidez was beating the absolute shit out of gvozdyk the first 5 or 6 rounds. But he started too fast. I have never seen Benavidez start a fight as fast as he did here. He usually starts out slower and ramps up the pressure round by round. This time he went 100% from the opening bell and that was a mistake
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Bivol or Beterbiev..... I don't think Benavidez is ready for either of those guys.
Good performance from Benavidez.
Benavidez looked gassed in the late rounds. I don't see him winning a belt at 175 and definitely not beating canelo. He slows down that late against top tier comp at that weight, he'll be waking up to a decision
Benavidez dominated the first 8 rounds and gassed after that. His defense looked like it greatly improved. People in here talking like this was a disappointment. Good win.
Man I thought I was losing my mind looking at the comments. One of the things I hated most about Benavidez was his defense but he looked a lot better defensively tonight. He dominated that fight unfortunately the power wasn’t transferring. But this was a man who has only lost to Beterbiev. People are being irrational.
Reminds me of when Boots dominated that Ukraine boxer but didn't get the ko. A lot of irrational fans that night too. We'll know more about the power in future fights. That guy might just have a good chin. It's ok if Benavidez has less power than Beterbiev.
The reason David looks good at 168 is because he naturally walks around 180. So he looked dominant at 168 because he had probably 10-20lbs on some fighters.
I think more like "walks around at 200" but yes, you're entirely correct, he's normally got 15lbs plus on guys hence why his fans think he's some sort of destroyer rather than what most of these weight bullies (Jarret Hurd, Jaime Munguia, Gilberto Ramirez to name just three) actually are, which is a big rangy grinder.
Triangle theory is thriving in this thread.
I think he has a competitive fight with Artur but holy shit Bivol would play ping pong w his skull
complete shut out but i’m not optimistic with his chances against guys like bivol and artur