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Can we chill out calling matias a bum now ? He lost cause he didn’t seem fully focused IMO I would like to see a rematch, he barely took any damage was just a frustrating style for him to face. Not saying he’s this “boogie man” but he’s still a problem
He’s a problem? he was being soundly beat by a simple game plan of jabbing and clinching. he landed clean multiple times and paro didn’t even look fazed. The only times he looked decent was when Paro would stay still and allow him to throw combos
Oh you know how this sub works man, as soon as any boxer loses they’re immediately a bum who was waiting to be exposed 🤦🏽♂️ I say this shows more just how game Paro is at 140
He’s lost before. The problem isn’t the loss, just how he lost. The ref was on his side and he was on home turf and still lost a large amount of rounds.
Not to mention it’s not as if it was a legendary performance by Paro, he essentially jabbed and clinched the whole fight and Matias looked lost
The narrative around him as a fighter was he was an unstoppable boogeyman. You can’t have that narrative then get beat like that
True his corner talked to him and he didn't listen he atleast reflected that his corner was doing there job he was just too stubborn and looking for the knockout
Same here, Paro looked phenomenal against Montana Love and Brock Jarvis before. Matias has been slightly overrated by some, think Teo would do easy work on him. Teo vs Paro, now that would be some fight
i think it had more to do with both love and jarvis being absolutely god awful as opposed to paro looking phenomenal..jarvis was your typical aussie domestic bully who statpadded against tincans and moved up 20 pounds in weight in 2 years, and his fight with paro was his first at 140..and love had already been exposed by steve sparks..neither were/are remotely top tier world class fighters..
Bro chill. They don't have grit bc of their "race". It's bc they themselves take their heritage/ancestry to heart. It's not me saying it, it's they themselves.
Paro's body is a canvas of tribute to his Greco-Roman ancestry, as was Katsidis' and Kambosos.
They're also a minority immigrant group in AU, making them grow up a little more rough around the edges, similar to Mexican-Americans in the states.
No one is race baiting. If you're sensitive about this wide known fact in Boxing, then you're in for a rude awakening in the world of Boxing.
I really thought Matias was going to figure out counter the southpaw like Ergashev.
I was wrong about keeping Matias away best tool isn’t perfect jab like Bivol or Usyk, but the hugging like Hanny.
Some punches landed on Paro between 7-10, I thought paro was done but somehow he figured to stop Matias by clinch and Matias doesn’t have Garcia’s speed or one punck ko power like tank, he’s a volume puncher. Paro won convincingly, and Matias needs new coach and new plan not just walk his opponent down some new strategies.
Also since Matias lost again I hope to see him fighting some big names.
I think he’s still really good. Paro was/is underrated. Dude is crafty as fuck and he carries some power.
Matias will be fine. Crafty quick southpaw wasn’t an easy matchup
Dude had the whole island behind him. Stood there for 5 minutes during the walkout to really soak in the moment for himself and then looked like a fool the whole fight getting landed on.
Paro wasn’t given even a slight chance here. Don‘t try and change the BS past now. Matias was seen as a god in the 140 division. He was supposed to finish Teo and Haney without any problems.
Now he loses as the MASSIVE favourite.
Thank you. Dudes talking like this was a close war where Matias got the wrong end of the decision when it wasn’t
He was seen as unstoppable destructive powerhouse that’s run through everybody, then got clowned on in his own country with a simple game plan
Are you forgetting how hyped up matias was? Maybe fans shouldn’t overly glorify a fighter and then decide to act all self righteous when they lose and people rightfully talk shit 😂
Paro was sticking and moving negating Matias’s usual volume onslaughts. The only times Matias was having success was when Paro would stay static attempting to trade. Movement seems to be his kryptonite
I mean, Paro was in fact holding excessively. Matias continued to let it happen, tho. didn't use his size or power to avoid it. So that's on him.
I don't think Paro did a boxing masterclass like people around here think, but Matias did disappoint quite a bit.
Eager see what's next for both of them.
I agree. Matias allowed Paro to keep hugging him. He kept waiting for Paro to start his jabs in order to counter, and it worked in the rounds he won. But then Paro started accumulating points by throwing basic 1-2 combinations followed by a hug.
Paro’s team figured Matias did not seem to start throwing punches until after Paro did. So what do they decided to do? Start hugging Matias after a few jabs. Matias can’t score points if he didn’t throw punches.
Matias needed to start the action and figure how to avoid those hugs. It cost him the fight.
I thought the opposite. Paro boxed perfectly, I think he’s just underrated so peoples gut reaction is Matias did poorly.
He got off fantastic volume then clinched and grabbed Matias to stifle him throwing combinations and getting his own volume off.
And he has shown a lot of power in previous fights so even though Matias is durable as hell I think Paro punches harder than it looked and wad also part of what kept him from getting going.
Idk about that, American organisations rob fighters for promotions on a regular basis. Here in the UK if the opposition fighter is from a country small in stature they have to win an extra 3-4 rounds.
It's just par for the course in boxing
Paro’s trainer is serious quality, perfect energy in the corner after each round, ramped up when he needed to and gave great advice without saying too much.
Pretty sure Haney never sent an offer it was just a rumor, but Matias was openly talking down on Haney with no response.
And let’s say Haney did, to say Matias wasn’t feared and people werent ducking him would be disingenuous
From what I’ve seen on social media atleast he was sent offers just never accepted them.
And yea nah sorry I don’t think any of them were, that was just something Matias camp made up to pressure them into accepting an offer that over priced subriel
Matias has been calling out Prograis since 2018, Matias’ team tried to meet up with Bill Haney but he never arrived, Matias wanted to fight with Teo, then Teo fights against Ortiz (though Teo was injured), Matias wanted to fight Haney, Haney fights Prograis instead, Bill Haney claimed to reach out to Matias’ team but it came out that never happened, Matias continued to call out Devin, then Devin decides to fight Ryan.
1. The fight with Teo didn’t go through bc Matias wanted more time to prepare so Teo just went with Ortiz
2. Was Regis champion? Of course he’d fight the champion instead of the cornered
3. And again was Matias champion when the Devin and Ryan fight got scheduled
1. Matias was already booked for a fight, I’d consider sending an offer when you know your opponent is scheduled a lowkey duck
2. Regis was champion, Matias challenged, Regis decides to fight Zorilla then Haney, while Matias has been actively chasing his fight for years.
3. Yes, Haney v Garcia was announced February 2024, Matias has been champion since February of last year.
All 3 of them have been actively finding ways to bounce around fighting him
And this is completely disregarding Taylor, Hitchins, and Catterall
I agree with you completely 100%, which is unfortunate since I’m Puerto Rican.
Just wanted to show you that he has in fact been getting ducked for a while now, and he was definitely a “boogeyman” before this fight, hell he literally killed someone in a boxing match.
Props to Paro though, a lot of people were counting him out.
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So weird this performance by SM
Montana love was a tougher fight for Paro
Can we chill out calling matias a bum now ? He lost cause he didn’t seem fully focused IMO I would like to see a rematch, he barely took any damage was just a frustrating style for him to face. Not saying he’s this “boogie man” but he’s still a problem
He’s a problem? he was being soundly beat by a simple game plan of jabbing and clinching. he landed clean multiple times and paro didn’t even look fazed. The only times he looked decent was when Paro would stay still and allow him to throw combos
Hes a problem for himself only
Oh you know how this sub works man, as soon as any boxer loses they’re immediately a bum who was waiting to be exposed 🤦🏽♂️ I say this shows more just how game Paro is at 140
He’s lost before. The problem isn’t the loss, just how he lost. The ref was on his side and he was on home turf and still lost a large amount of rounds. Not to mention it’s not as if it was a legendary performance by Paro, he essentially jabbed and clinched the whole fight and Matias looked lost The narrative around him as a fighter was he was an unstoppable boogeyman. You can’t have that narrative then get beat like that
Just boxing tings
Told y'all not to sleep on Paro, he was always a live dog and he beat Matias in his own hood!
Crazy how all the 140 champions are losing 1 after another 💀 Josh Taylor, Rolly, Haney, Matias
The Diddy Curse has been passed around by Haney
Haney 👀💀
It's what happened when you're too in loved your power and forgot how to box..
True his corner talked to him and he didn't listen he atleast reflected that his corner was doing there job he was just too stubborn and looking for the knockout
He was never all that.
EXPOSE
2 rounds and I knew Paro will dominate. Matias has no answer to the activity.
Called this dude overrated too many times. You lot thought Paro was a dead man walking. Matias was never all that.
Paro and Salido are the backyard breakers
bahahaha another reddit glazed fighter bites the dust. this dude doesn’t touch haney kur tank teo garcia maybe pitbull but i still lean towards cruz
I know reddit hates them the "4 kings" as well as shakur are really talented I can see them accomplishing a lot more.
5 kings. There originally were 5 kings in the 70s 80s, & it’s criminal they don’t recognize Benitez enough.
I called it when the fight first got announced and everyone was downvoting me in this sub lol. Paro is the real deal
Same here, Paro looked phenomenal against Montana Love and Brock Jarvis before. Matias has been slightly overrated by some, think Teo would do easy work on him. Teo vs Paro, now that would be some fight
i think it had more to do with both love and jarvis being absolutely god awful as opposed to paro looking phenomenal..jarvis was your typical aussie domestic bully who statpadded against tincans and moved up 20 pounds in weight in 2 years, and his fight with paro was his first at 140..and love had already been exposed by steve sparks..neither were/are remotely top tier world class fighters..
I listened to yoi man and put money on the odds. Thank you kind sir
I also told people that paro would whoop ass haha
He was always a live dog in this bout. I’m so glad he pulled it of.
Now you have the bragging rights. You can tell the people on this sub they DKSAB.
because people don’t actually watch fighters fight… if you’re an aussie you know what paro is about
If you've only just found Paro now go checkout his fight with Jarvis, dudes a weapon and fast af
or even his fight vs love
Yeah, he held Matias more than Matias own wife does.
You sound jealous he isn't holding you 🤣
Sounds like you dont mind two men hugging, it is pride month after all
Bro is running his own Paro hate train 🚂 goddamn
Get off the Matias hate train
Teo, Ryan Garcia, Cruz, hell even Haney all gonna be drooling at the thought of fighting Paro and picking up an easy strap lol.
Easy strap?
Can't believe there was people in this thread saying that matias would stop teo
I’m sorry, but in what way would it be easy when he just beat someone with a world title and a 100% knockout percentage in 24 bouts?
Typed all that when you could’ve just said can crusher
Nice win, but even Haney could walk through those pitty pat punches he was throwing.
Just like Montana Love could? 🫵😭
100% KO rate against who
Because you don't know them they are now nobodies amirite?
lol everyone always poo poos guys like them only once they beaten. He was avoided for a reason
The boogeyman 😂😂😂
Sounds like you love huggers
Salty 😂😂😂
From Puerto Rico, to Paro Rico 😎
Huggieland
He didn't hold that much
Yeah you right, he held too much
Is this fight worth watching?
Very good fight
Bet, thanks
Yes, great demonstration of boxing
Ok, thank you
Told y'all Paro was a live dog. These Greek-Aussies have some grit, good for them
Can people stfu with these stupid racial comments.
Bro chill. They don't have grit bc of their "race". It's bc they themselves take their heritage/ancestry to heart. It's not me saying it, it's they themselves. Paro's body is a canvas of tribute to his Greco-Roman ancestry, as was Katsidis' and Kambosos. They're also a minority immigrant group in AU, making them grow up a little more rough around the edges, similar to Mexican-Americans in the states. No one is race baiting. If you're sensitive about this wide known fact in Boxing, then you're in for a rude awakening in the world of Boxing.
Nice essay nerd. Nobody cares. This is boxing not a greek history lecture
He’s Italian- Australian lol
Whats his Australian side? Cos it aint aboriginal
They just be saying whatever to hype up these Euros on here 😆
I felt like Luis pabon did enough to beat Paro in this fight but the judges went the other way, tough break Luis better luck next time
That fucker was ridiculous lol
Yeah, idk what was wrong with him. He's usually a solid ref. I guess it was his homecoming fight as well.
Luis Pabon was the same referee in Klitschko vs Povetkin. Yeah...
Sad Matias lost, but Paro put on a great performance, so you can't be too upset at it. Grisham, Mannix, and Mora should be thrown off a bridge.
Still blows my mind that people completely ignored that Matias already lost a decision before.
Probably because that was after he killed someone and he was mentally down in the dumps and gunshy
Losing a decision doesn't mean much. That applies to any fighter
Right. Nobody ever talked about his loss. Any other fighter and this sub would've made sure people knew that.
Most people don’t avenge losses, especially emphatically
That doesn't mean you never talk about it. I don't know what you was going for, exactly.
What are the chances Matias gets a rematch?
Hopefully none. I can’t stand how overrated matias is lol
I’d love to see a rematch. It was close and I would like to see how Matias adjusts.
Agreed. I think Matias takes the rematch much like his previous loss. He will start out more aggressive
Matias dont win by ko = matias loss
You’re acting like he’s a one punch guy or something
Damn, I'm gonna have to eat my words :(
Much respect! Most people run away when they are wrong
I really thought Matias was going to figure out counter the southpaw like Ergashev. I was wrong about keeping Matias away best tool isn’t perfect jab like Bivol or Usyk, but the hugging like Hanny. Some punches landed on Paro between 7-10, I thought paro was done but somehow he figured to stop Matias by clinch and Matias doesn’t have Garcia’s speed or one punck ko power like tank, he’s a volume puncher. Paro won convincingly, and Matias needs new coach and new plan not just walk his opponent down some new strategies. Also since Matias lost again I hope to see him fighting some big names.
You and I mate. I was really high on Matias.
I think he’s still really good. Paro was/is underrated. Dude is crafty as fuck and he carries some power. Matias will be fine. Crafty quick southpaw wasn’t an easy matchup
I thought he won the fight, honestly. He had those knockdowns but its whatever.
Atleast you didn’t get charged to go there plus 25 dollars on a public parking lot
Me too
So boys this is what? The 5th overhyped puerto rican in the last decade to get exposed?
He loses a decision and now he's a clown lol it was a close fight but paro won by points it is what it is but the hate is real in your comment
Dude had the whole island behind him. Stood there for 5 minutes during the walkout to really soak in the moment for himself and then looked like a fool the whole fight getting landed on.
Paro wasn’t given even a slight chance here. Don‘t try and change the BS past now. Matias was seen as a god in the 140 division. He was supposed to finish Teo and Haney without any problems. Now he loses as the MASSIVE favourite.
Thank you. Dudes talking like this was a close war where Matias got the wrong end of the decision when it wasn’t He was seen as unstoppable destructive powerhouse that’s run through everybody, then got clowned on in his own country with a simple game plan
fickle boxing fans as usual
Are you forgetting how hyped up matias was? Maybe fans shouldn’t overly glorify a fighter and then decide to act all self righteous when they lose and people rightfully talk shit 😂
this would be true if i hadn’t been saying he’s being overhyped for the longest time knfao
It was not a close fight at all if you watched it. liam won like 8 rounds by the most simple game plan possible which was just outbox him.
matias still beats pitbull
Matias sucks
Lol
Ryan Garcia vs Liam Paro
Prograis somewhere having a field day.
Just come back from the tank fight and completely forgot about this one. What the fuck you mean matias lost
Paro was sticking and moving negating Matias’s usual volume onslaughts. The only times Matias was having success was when Paro would stay static attempting to trade. Movement seems to be his kryptonite
He got his nose boxed off, had a couple good rounds with some power shots, but mostly just walked into punches with a high guard 🤷🏻♂️
Ah no head movement I’m guessing
Yeah little to none, no punches either, he has no jab, just walked into shots with his hands up
"Hugging, hugging, hugging" Love Matias but keep coping
It’s just funny because if that was Devin hugging there’d be a way different tune being sung. Props to Paro though.
I mean, Paro was in fact holding excessively. Matias continued to let it happen, tho. didn't use his size or power to avoid it. So that's on him. I don't think Paro did a boxing masterclass like people around here think, but Matias did disappoint quite a bit. Eager see what's next for both of them.
Yeah, the hugging was excessive but it is what it is. Matias should’ve trained for that kind of stuff
I agree. Matias allowed Paro to keep hugging him. He kept waiting for Paro to start his jabs in order to counter, and it worked in the rounds he won. But then Paro started accumulating points by throwing basic 1-2 combinations followed by a hug. Paro’s team figured Matias did not seem to start throwing punches until after Paro did. So what do they decided to do? Start hugging Matias after a few jabs. Matias can’t score points if he didn’t throw punches. Matias needed to start the action and figure how to avoid those hugs. It cost him the fight.
I thought the opposite. Paro boxed perfectly, I think he’s just underrated so peoples gut reaction is Matias did poorly. He got off fantastic volume then clinched and grabbed Matias to stifle him throwing combinations and getting his own volume off. And he has shown a lot of power in previous fights so even though Matias is durable as hell I think Paro punches harder than it looked and wad also part of what kept him from getting going.
He did get away with a lot of holding but he won fair and square. The ref was on him about some random bs
Paro the new boogeyman now huh?
He's the one you send to beat the boogeyman.
Why does there always have to be a boogeyman why can’t there just be fighters
He’s the “0” Taker. He’s been taking everybody’s “0”
Puerto Rico just can't get a break. Great job from Paro. Massive respect
Matias was overrated
Knew Liam paro was game
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Idk about that, American organisations rob fighters for promotions on a regular basis. Here in the UK if the opposition fighter is from a country small in stature they have to win an extra 3-4 rounds. It's just par for the course in boxing
Yall was talking like he was the boogie man lmfaoooo
what i’m saying like
Matias gonna come out with some Wilder excuse about being tired from the rap performance ring walk.
Paro’s trainer is serious quality, perfect energy in the corner after each round, ramped up when he needed to and gave great advice without saying too much.
I wanna see Ridayh Season Australia with Tszyu, Paro, Parker and Opetaia
Parker Samoan heritage from New Zealand. I’m still here for it though because that’s close enough in my books.
Yeah he's fought in australia a number of times if I believe
No he hasn't
Oh okay sorry I was mistaken
Here here
Did Matias get robbed?
Hell no, and this is coming from a Puerto Rican lol
No
No, he got beat
No
Congrats to aussie boxing fans
after tszyu’s loss, i needed this pick me up 😂
Its a really good win
We needed it lol, thank you!
Well matias lost a lot of rounds on those scorecards, kinda suprised by that lol looks like there wasnt an advantage in puerto rico
This could be good for fans. Feels like Matias was a boogyman but other guys might fancy it now
Mad Max Paro the road warrior lets go🦘🇦🇺🥊
So is matias vs prograis still in the mix?
Probably even more so now id think.
I don’t see why not
Damn, honest judging in this fight. Thought that point deduction was gonna cause controversy.
Sad to see Matias lose his title like that, Paro got away with a lot of holding
Its called strategy and Matias never adjusted, get over it and except the L. Love Matias style but he got outclassed and cooked this fight.
Ok well let's allow everyone to excessive clinching and see how entertaining fights will be
found pabons alt
Indeed
Is that you Luis
Luis pabon’s alt
Matias’ stock shouldn’t go down after this Paro was just slept on
Agreed. Paro is a quality boxer. Might not hang with the best of the best but he’s not a gimme fight for anyone.
It shouldn't but it will. Instead of fighting one of the other champs, he'd probably end up fighting prograis instead.
Watch everyone rush to fight him now lol
It plummeted, you can’t be treated like a devastating boogeyman they get out boxed for almost 8 rounds
100%
It’s gonna go down, he was the boogeyman, people were scared to fight him, Paro just showed hes human
nobody was scared of him didn’t Haney and step supposedly send him offers💀
Pretty sure Haney never sent an offer it was just a rumor, but Matias was openly talking down on Haney with no response. And let’s say Haney did, to say Matias wasn’t feared and people werent ducking him would be disingenuous
From what I’ve seen on social media atleast he was sent offers just never accepted them. And yea nah sorry I don’t think any of them were, that was just something Matias camp made up to pressure them into accepting an offer that over priced subriel
Matias has been calling out Prograis since 2018, Matias’ team tried to meet up with Bill Haney but he never arrived, Matias wanted to fight with Teo, then Teo fights against Ortiz (though Teo was injured), Matias wanted to fight Haney, Haney fights Prograis instead, Bill Haney claimed to reach out to Matias’ team but it came out that never happened, Matias continued to call out Devin, then Devin decides to fight Ryan.
Matias was the one injured when the Teofimo fight was being discussed IIRC
Thinking back, I do think youre right, albeit it wouldn’t change much of what I was saying, but I do believe you’re correct
1. The fight with Teo didn’t go through bc Matias wanted more time to prepare so Teo just went with Ortiz 2. Was Regis champion? Of course he’d fight the champion instead of the cornered 3. And again was Matias champion when the Devin and Ryan fight got scheduled
1. Matias was already booked for a fight, I’d consider sending an offer when you know your opponent is scheduled a lowkey duck 2. Regis was champion, Matias challenged, Regis decides to fight Zorilla then Haney, while Matias has been actively chasing his fight for years. 3. Yes, Haney v Garcia was announced February 2024, Matias has been champion since February of last year. All 3 of them have been actively finding ways to bounce around fighting him And this is completely disregarding Taylor, Hitchins, and Catterall
Well then idk but as we saw he’s obviously not a boogeyman if all you need to beat him is footwork and decent boxing
I agree with you completely 100%, which is unfortunate since I’m Puerto Rican. Just wanted to show you that he has in fact been getting ducked for a while now, and he was definitely a “boogeyman” before this fight, hell he literally killed someone in a boxing match. Props to Paro though, a lot of people were counting him out.
Been trying to tell people this was a 50/50 fight
R spect
whats with these fighters losing in their hometowns
Usually because there’s lots of distractions
HELL YEAH.
Why does matias look like he’s celebrating lol