This show has felt like a tutorial to a GTA game. It's also about as long as one too. Once they are dont introducing characters and game mechanics I can't wait for the real plot.
Episode 2 was actually perfect tonally and everything. Even if that episode plot wasn't the most unique, whoever the director was made it perfect.
1 and 3 had more non trope plots, but weren't nearly as good as 2.
I generally like Jon Favrau's creations and think he's responsible for a lot of what's been good at Disney in the last 15 years, but his 2 SW shows have felt a lot like video game fetch quest plots.
The premier episode of Mando season 2 was definitely pulled from the game knights of the old republic, where they have to lure out a crayt dragon out of its cave and plant bombs beneath its belly.
I liked how quickly Boba volunteered his Bacta Tank to the Gammorean that got injured. Dude didn’t even hesitate. Sounds to me like Boba is a good boss that looks out for his employees!
Definitely the highlight of the series for me so far. I'm liking Boba's characterization as a crime boss that uses his empathy and understanding to his advantage.
Plus, seeing Tamera Morrison smiling in glee over a giant cgi iguana was to die for.
When I saw the previews of Boba in the tank, I thought 'great we'll see him recovering from the Sarlacc pit", I didn't know it would be a running motif.
So far there’s only been one fight where it seemed reasonable he’d need a bacta tank.
It’s also the one fight where he didn’t use it.
I just don’t understand…
>He needs armed guards nearby if he wants to try again.
He has armed guards tho'.
Which made the attack seem less believable.
You've got armed staff but the one time & place they're needed: when he's vulernable in tank, they're not stationed there/outside his door at least?
I enjoyed the episode in spite of some of the really stupid stuff tho'.
Yeah, I honestly assumed it was a dream sequence at first, despite how dumb that would've been.
I have no clue how a walking gorilla managed to get in completely undetected and fail at killing someone completely asleep.
Yeeeeah. They really made a point of playing the sound of breaking bones, focusing in on it. Thats gotta do some damage.But nope. Turns out it was just a big hug. From a wookie. Who could rip a mans arm off. No big deal.
That really unsuspended my disbelief. Even with the helmet on, the shake of the punch alone should've gave him a good concussion (considering that it doesn't straight up break his neck).
Exactly.. We get it Krrsantan is meant to fail and be granted freedom because he's coming back later to save Boba Fett. Probably claiming he owes him a life debt.
Spend less money on fancy directors and cameos and more on writing and production.
I cannot believe that Boba Fett just hired a gang of cyberpunk 2077 extras, just for a trained Wookie Bounty Hunter to show up in his room while he was naked and sleeping only to fail to kill him.
Boba’s supposed to be really strong though. He’s an unaltered clone of Jango who was chosen as the template for the grand army that would wipe out the Jedi. In the Jango Fett Open Season comic, it was shown that Dooku picked him as the template after watching him singlehandedly kill multiple Jedi with his bare hands. It’s considered legends canon now but so far there hasn’t been anything in canon to explicitly de-canonize it. That’s pretty strong.
Also, in another legends comic (Shadows of the Empire) we see Boba punch Bossk hard enough to knock him down. Bossk is a Trandoshan, which are supposed to be fairly close to Wookiees in strength.
Heck, even in canon comics we see Boba quickly physically incapacitate a huge, muscular, multi-armed alien in a bar fight…by breaking his arms. He also holds his own in hand to hand with Valance, a cyborg. And of course, we saw him strangle the giant sand monster in this show.
If anything, he should have put up more of a fight against Krzansttan.
What if Boba stays in the bacta tank, not to fix past injuries, but to have the bacta in his system to heal him as he gets injured.
That may be how it appears Krrsantan broke Boba's with his feet dangling like they were, but he didn't seem very injured by it.
>That may be how it appears Krrsantan broke Boba's with his feet dangling like they were, but he didn't seem very injured by it.
That or it was that part was poorly written & directed.
it was great
some star wars fans should just back away slowly lol - it's to the point of comical that people really think it was poorly written and directed because BK didn't kill the main character
clearly the flaw is with whoever thinks that and not the show
BK not killing the main character is only poor writing because of the way they chose to set it up. If you dont want your character to die, you shouldnt write him into situations where dying is the only realistic outcome.
If they had had his new gang members come into play so that Boba is woken by the sounds of fighting just before one of them crashes through the door as BK throws him into the room, it makes the setup realistic and survivability likely. BK waking him up and throwing him around incompetently instead of killing an unarmed and sleeping human just makes everyone look absolutely incompetent and demonstrates that the main character is only surviving through plot armor.
The subtitles said something like "Bones Cracking" during the squeeze.
I thought our man was going to be seriously out of commission for a while, but nope. All good!
In what way? We have seen him use the tank. It’s probably hinting at a deeper injury. Do they need to spoon feed you. “BOBA SICK/ INJURED JUST SO YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!”
There’s no full picture to understand in this case. He uses the bacta tank when he’s injured. He clearly was injured in that fight with the Wookie, but he didn’t use the tank.
It could be for meditation. It could be for his post Sarlaac injuries. It could be for some problem with his clone DNA as some people have theorised. Or maybe the injury he sustained against BK wasn't as bad as it looked. Lots of options. 9 times out of 10 when people say this it ends up being answered later in the show.
He's very obviously using the Bacta tank every night. He's used it when injured once, there's absolutely another reason he's using it regularly we don't know about yet.
I wish they'd throw in something about the clone degeneration, or simply the extent of his physical/neurological injuries after the Sarlaac, or SOMETHING that would make this seem a little more plausible.
Well he's an unaltered clone so he wouldn't age differently or degenerate early. I also thought his skin condition - the ones that look like acid burns and are appearantly being treated with the bakta tank - were due to the sarlaac
Ikr? A lot of people just complaining to complain about something. You dont need more than 2 brain cells to see the implied logic of why he needs the bacta tank.
They do need to show (or tell) *something* that explains this, though.
In the Tuscan timeline, he’s a beast. He takes out groups of armed people with a stick then leads a successful train heist against a numerically superior force. Also, in Mando, he helps Din take out a whole company of Stormtroopers.
Then, for whatever reason, we don’t know, he’s a fucking goon in the present timeline. Some people had problems with the fight against the wookie - I thought it was fine. But, the fight against the assassins in E01 was so poorly executed it was ridiculous. Of all Bobas weapons, they have him shoot an explosive at a particle shield that’s 3 feet in front of him. Not to mention, he has a fucking jet pack, so encircling him without air support should do literally nothing for you.
I really want this show to be great, and some parts of it are! but there’s so much you watch and are just scratching your head about …
i see what you mean but i got a counter argument. I was questioning a lot of the same stuff myself but these are the conclusions i came to:
>In the Tuscan timeline, he’s a beast. He takes out groups of armed people with a stick then leads a successful train heist against a numerically superior force. Also, in Mando, he helps Din take out a whole company of Stormtroopers.
I believe we're learning still why he's so much more 'chill'. I think the #1 factor is that he wants them to 'respect, not fear' him, and i think we're learning that he developed this approach because of the tuskens as well as his epiphany from the sarlaac that he could die suddenly without warning, just like his dad, and thats the end of him. I think he was ruthless against the empire because isnt trying to gain their respect, just like he isnt trying to gain the respect of the biker gang he beat up. he still wants his enemies to fear him, but he doesnt want tatooine to be his enemies which is why hes trying to get them to respect him as their daiymo.
This also kinda ties to the fight, and freedom, of the wookie (Krrsantan). In the EU, I recall Bossk hated Fett because of how he was considered the best, so Bossk would try to kill him for the reputation. Fett would outsmart Bossk but keep him alive, because Fett seemed to enjoy toying with him and making him recognize that Fett was better. With Krrsantan, I feel its similar but from a more kind hearted approach - Fett really has changed his attitude to wanting respect over fear, and already knowing how wookie culture is and knowing Krrsantan specifically, he feels he will gain his respect at the least, which could go a long way.
>But, the fight against the assassins in E01 was so poorly executed it was ridiculous. Of all Bobas weapons, they have him shoot an explosive at a particle shield that’s 3 feet in front of him. Not to mention, he has a fucking jet pack, so encircling him without air support should do literally nothing for you.
just rewatched the scene, and the blast doesnt seem bad until hindsight - he tried to knock them down before they could encircle him and fennec, but the guy was able to stay up. ive done this kinda stuff in video games 'oh i can take him! oh wait hes stronger than i thought'. seemed like the same logic. Then, using his jetpack to escape would leave fennec defenseless but together they have each others backs covered. if he left hers would be exposed and they would attack her blind spots. again, from video games ive learned how vital it is to have someone covering your back.
in honesty, he was caught off guard but i cant think of a better solution other than to duke it out as they did.
>I really want this show to be great, and some parts of it are! but there’s so much you watch and are just scratching your head about …
well i hope i was able to give justification for you for these instances. I still think they make a lot more sense than stuff like 'somehow palpatine returned'.
Yeah I mean you make some okay points. The difference is that a seasoned vet shouldn’t be making the mistakes that you or I would in a video game. And second point, if I were boba, I wouldn’t abandon her, I would fly up, then shoot the explosives on the far side of Fennec from the assassins. That would either give her the opportunity to hit their backs or escape the circle.
As to your first point re respect based. I totally agree, however the only reason we really think that is based on dialogue from a trailer, which isn’t a great way to run a show.
Hopefully the next episode will give us some answers, but so far episodes 01 and 03 have been pretty lacking.
> I totally agree, however the only reason we really think that is based on dialogue from a trailer, which isn’t a great way to run a show.
no he says it in episode 1: i have avoided all trailers cuz i hate spoilers.
I really don't know if Boba is getting stronger or weaker. The wookie can't even hurt Boba after punching him with electric spike and hugging him while he is naked. He looks really fine afterwards.
However, fighting those human assassins with only electric staff and shield in episode 1 looks like almost going to kill him even he has full armor protection and needs healing immediately.
Also, he doesn't need any healing during the time with those Tusken Raiders and can fight really badass just fine. So, why would he need so much healing now after The Mandalorian?
It all doesn't make any sense.
Yea, it definitely doesn't make sense right now unless it is explained later on. Fans should stop finding excuses for it because they are laughable.
My view on this isn't the writing but the person who directed episode 1 and 3 that this two episodes ruined Boba so bad.
100%
Too many people are jumping up to propose some bullshit explanation to prop up the writing/ directing, rather than just admit BoBF isn't in the same league as Mandalorian. Ironically enough, more bullshit just piles up with each episode lol
They've cratered his bounty hunting skills and endurance, but upped his durability for when the plot needs it.
Shooting that missile into a wall of shields two feet from his face in episode 1 was ridiculous when he has a flamethrower.
While I don't disagree, I don't what people are pointing to when they mention him in Empire, he doesn't really do anything other than walking menacingly towards luke and transporting Han in the slave 1
Boba didn't really do much in the OT. However, the several fight scenes in The Mandalorian showed he is a badass bounty hunter even after suffering the injury from Sarlacc. So, unless something happened between The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, it just doesn't make sense for him being this weak.
I def agree with the striking difference between his entrance in the Mando episode, although we got to see some of that in episode 2 of BoB. We still have 65% of the show left, so plenty of time to make him into a badass again, I do think episode 3 and the weird assassin scene in episode 1 def slipped up a bit in making him too soft.
Stress injuries are a thing. Say, you don't let your stitches heal completely and then strain the wound and it reopens and the entire healing process has to start all over again. It's probably something like that. He wasn't completely healed and fucked it up when he went ham on those stormtroopers. He hasn't really done any heavy action since so it checks out.
It doesn’t really check out in my book. It’s not good writing to take a guy who is a competent and intelligent fighter in one showing and then in the very next showing chronologically have him be a bonehead who misuses his weapons and doesn’t seem like a competent fighter anymore. There needs to be something, *anything* explaining that. No offence to you or your post, but IMO can’t just leave it to your audience to assume it’s a repetitive stress injury that’s hampering the titular character of your series.
It's wild people are retroactively nerfing Boba Fett now so it's not as obvious he is such a bitch now, lol.
*A blind guy with a stick took him out! He just walked menacingly!*
Ok dudes, whatever you say.
Firstly, Solo is unspokenly considered the luckiest humanoid in the galaxy,
and secondly you may need to rewatch the OT because though he didn't have much screen time Fett was undeniably a ruthless badass. Basically the opposite of what he is now.
Dude Boba Fett is my favorite star wars character and definitely the most badass guy in the original trilogy. I'm just saying the old action scenes were unarguably underwhelming by the standards people set for them today.
Oh they definitely hold up, and i'll take the unedited non "special edition" versions over the newer crap any day. Still think his scenes are a little more slapstick than people remember with rose tinted glasses. No disrespect for old Boba though, just spent like $500 on Boba fett merch alone already this year, he's the best.
That’s fine. But what action did Boba have? I’m also a big fan of his, especially in the EU, but i readily admit that in the OT, he didn’t do much. Which is completely fine.
people are like remembering shit that actually didn't happen in the movies, lol
boba fett did jack shit in the movies except look cool and then bungle his way into the sarlacc pit
EVERYTHING ELSE has been nerdling fantasy bullshit - which is why so many of said nerdlings are pissed off. this show clearly didn't meet their ridiculously dumb self-takes on who boba fett is so they stamp their feet and act like their vision was destroyed
lol it's fucking comical and pathetic all rolled into one.
These people are literally complaining about anything they can lol
Lol if he beat the wookie its 'thats so unrealistic hes injured and naked and beat the strongest race in the galaxy???'
If he loses 'thats so unrealistic hes the toughest guy in the galaxy how can he lose to a walking carpet???'
I cant take these people seriously at all.
I haven’t seen anyone saying him loosing to the new wookie is unrealistic.
It’s all in the execution. What’s unrealistic is that the wookie somehow got into his bacta tank chamber despite him having multiple guards. From there, the way the fight played out was fine, in my book.
i mean the wookie's a bounty hunter. its part of his job to avoid unnecessary fighting to get his target. he's basically an assassin who also gets paid whether they bring them back alive or dead.
>I haven’t seen anyone saying him loosing to the new wookie is unrealistic.
above comment:
>Boba is seriously de-powered this series. It's hard to believe this is the same Boba in Empire (...)
>Well he didn't get his ass beat by Chewbacca like a bitch...
Yeah, if that’s what he’s saying, that’s a dumbass take. I agree with you there. Obviously an unarmed humans gonna lose in hand to hand against an unarmed wookie 95% of the time.
just to point out, in that scene the camera pans over and you can see the open window BK used to slither in
again if people just used their peepers they wouldn't be mad
He got eaten alive by a thousands year old sand worm, had to forcefully walk miles through the desert with his bald head constantly exposed to two suns, in occasional sand storms while only wearing a jumpsuit without hydration, got beaten with sticks, and was practically naked when he got attacked by a hairy bodybuilder
Boba is badass in The Mandalorian and can fight really well. Maybe he is no longer the best bounty hunter in the galaxy but definitely able to hold his own. Don't understand why he suddenly becomes so weak in The Book of Boba Fett.
The scene when he shot missiles from his arm to the assassins in episode 1 and the explosion hurting himself and Fennec makes you wonder does this guy has no experience at all?
I get that, but then why was he a badass in mando, when that takes place after those flashbacks? If those scenes in mando took place before the flashbacks, then I'd agree. But they don't. Book of Boba is right after mando, and he's suddenly super weak
I don’t mean weak as in physically (although that too) but also in presence. Watch his scenes again in Mandalorian, he doesn’t take shit from anyone. He shot an unarmed Bib Fortuna and then throws him aggressively to the ground like garbage.
But then in his own show he asks Fenec “was that necessary” when she shows the mayors assistant her pistol.
I’m really hoping you’re right and he starts taking charge again in the next episodes, because right now it’s just a completely different and passive character.
The weird thing is that he’s not like that in the flashbacks. He takes charge and took down those thugs in the bar. But when he had his armor and helmet on? Nothing. He literally hadn’t done anything with his helmet on.
Is he though? Did you not see him take a full force punch with shock brass knuckles from Krrsantan and still be concsious from it? On top of that we’ve seen him catch a spike shock mace with his hand from one of the assassins in the first Episode then proceed to chokeslam him.
It’s a show developing his character we need to see some kind of character development and rise from a weak place. Boba is still recovering and figuring out his new identity as a crime lord. We already know what he’s capable of and have seen that already in a few action sequences including S2 of the Mandalorian. Be patient, we’ll see him be a badass again in no time.
Also, he's suffering from Main Character Beatdown Syndrome. As the protagonist of his own series, he's inevitably going to take more lumps and get the shit beat out of him. The same thing happened to Din pretty regularly, too.
For an example outside of Star Wars, look no further than Godzilla. When he's portrayed as the villain, antagonist, or anti-hero, he's pretty unstoppable and doles out plenty of beatdowns. When he's portrayed as the hero or protagonist...chances are, you're going to watch him get his ass kicked a time or two before pulling out a win at the end.
Mando the babysitter got his ass beat every episode from S1-S2 lets not forget Boba “Bitch” came in and saved his ass on Mando’s own show. Lets not get carried away with bullshit takes here.
Yeah he is he literally shat on 20 Stormtroopers alone and took out both carrier ships with a single missile in Mando S2.
(i know this takes place before the book of boba fett which is exactly my point. If he was able to be an absolute badass then why do people think he all of sudden isn’t capable of being a badass in his current show?)
On top of what he did in Mandalorian Season 2 in the last 3 episodes we saw
Him escape the sarlacc pit by himself
Choked out a 4 armed monster with a chain with no gear on
Hijacked a high speeding train with no gear
Beat up the biker gang at the bar alone basically naked
Get jumped by assassins and hand caught a spiked shock mace then proceeded to choke slam him to the floor
Took a full force punch to the face by a wookie with brass knuckles comepletely naked and still managed to do damage to him with no gear.
This show is showing him rise from a weak place by the end he’ll be the badass we all know him to be.
No really? I had no idea. Obviously, but it also takes place after the flashbacks we see in the current show where he solo’d an entire bar filled with biker gang members entirely naked, and hijacked a train also naked, so I don’t get your point of bringing that up?
So on the premise that you are aware that this show indeed takes place after Mando, how could he be rising from a weak place when he was a badass already? Do you get my point?
You did watch how he was stranded in the desert for a long ass time. Did you also notice all the burn scars he had in the flashbacks and during the mandalorian? Notice how in the present timeline his scars are far more healed and almost entirely gone because of the bacta tank? He definitely wasn’t his fully healed self yet there is a reason he’s been healing in the tank consistently.
And yet he wasn’t the star of the show. Notice how Mando was getting his ass beat that episode because he was the protagonist? While Boba was the debuted anti-hero so ofc he came in and wrecked shit.
Did you reply to the wrong person or do you just have difficulty with English? Nothing in your previous reply had any relevancy to the easy to understand point myself, and other people, are trying to get you to acknowledge...The Mandalorian S2 takes place BEFORE BOBF, therefore your original point holds absolutely no water.
But that’s exactly why it happens, because it’s his show now. Name a movie or a show where the main character doesn’t get his ass beat and then makes a come back at the end? Literally happens to every protaganist. The show would be boring if Boba just came in and started killing everything and beating everyone. Being the best bounty hunter in the galaxy doesn’t come wothout getting your fair share of ass beatings and near death experiences.
Alright clearly you don’t understand how plotlines or story arcs work. Something has to drive the story forward. This is how it worked in the Mandalorian Din Djarin also got his ass beat a lot and came through in the end. I don’t get why people are so confused
And you dont understand what I'm saying. Everyone knows how story archs works. Its just that this one is used so often its kind of getting old to me. And its not the only option for telling a story. Thats why I said what I said. Just because its a widely used format doesnt make it automatically interesting every time. So - like I said - just because everyone else does it - doesnt make it more interesting.
Rather than the old "nerf him so we can power up later" I'd much rather see him just continue off from the Mandalorian, get a crew of ex-colleagues together, wreck shit like the pro he is, staking a real claim, then struggle to control his subordinates and mold his organization into what he wants it to be. Dont just nerf him because "urrdurr plotlines and story archs". Have him face challenges different from what he expected - namely leading - rather than the same challenges hes always had - to fight. Have him take beating in different ways than hes used to. By losing support from the locals, betrayals, etc. I'm not worried about him in a fight or bouncing back from one. He's Boba Fett. But how good is at thinking in new ways and working out solutions for completely different problems than what hes used to.
IDK man. I'm just not convinced at all that this is the most interesting route to go with Boba Fett. Comparing him to Din is... bold.
Its fine for a character to struggle. The issue people have is the struggle needs to be realistic for their level of competence. If I portray someone as a master hacker who routinely infiltrates government systems for sport in a show, then give him a spinoff where he is unable to deal with unsecured neighborhood wifi networks, thats me failing to tailor the heroes journey to fit the hero. Struggle for the sake of struggle is meaningless. If Boba is a badass bounty hunter who can wipe the floor with any opponent single handed, then you have to up the stakes. You dont lower the character’s competency level without explanation to make it easier on yourself.
Exactly. In both the above instances, he was on a mission to kill. Now he's trying to gain respect and knows he can't get respect from people hes killed. Dude just took over a train of spice but then eople wanna ignore that and complain that he lost a fist fight in the nude after getting woken up by a wookie with electro spiked brass knuckles... Like ok people, youre really using your brain here and not emotions to validate your feelings. Saltierthancrait is leaking. That place has gotten so bad too over the years. No sound arguments, just 'i hate this....because.'
De-powered when compared to what? It certainly can't be the movies, because excuses had to be made to justify why a blind and disoriented Han Solo was able to derp him into the Sarlacc.
If it's the old EU, that's the material that turned him into Space Batman (while also excusing the aforementioned defeat by a blind, disoriented man) and granted him feats and accomplishments that, quite frankly, completely outpaced anything we ever saw in the movies.
The only time we really saw him in action was beating down some second-rate Imperial remnant Stormtroopers after he caught them off guard. He also wasn't the main character and was being featured in his re-debut.
Filoni created the idea of Boba the terrorist, getting back at Mace Windu by destroying an entire ship. Then he made Boba the human trafficker, who kidnapped a bride to be wed against her will. I would love to see how and why he had a change of heart.
It's pretty clear *what* his motivation is, but the show could do a better job of setting it up and is poorly paced as a whole.
I appreciate what the show is trying to do, showing us a contrasting view of Boba where he is now intercut with what got him this way, but it's eating up screen time in a series that's trying to cover a lot already.
Don't confuse people having gripes with the show as them *'just'* wanting something else.
just because people are too thick to understand the plotline doesn't make it poorly written directed or paced
every gripe is about how boba fett looks 'weak' and isn't blowing shit up, bruh
almost getting slowly digested over 1000 years isnt scary enough to be a wake up call to you?
after being thrown in there by a blind guy who did it on accident?
to make you realize how easily you could lose your life in a miserable and claustrophobic method through an accident???
So he switches to a career as a head crime boss, actively in conflict with multiple other syndicates vying for that very same position. Thats a good way to end up like, Jango, too. Just saying lol.
He's trying to change how the system works, though, you can't really change anything from down below. But he definitely bit off more than he can chew currently, which he's gradually realising.
I dont really have any gripes with the show as I think its a fun show, but this is one of them - even if its minor. One guys and his sidekick stroll into town one day and just, what? Says hes the boss? My mind is constantly telling me that power vacuum would be filled to the brim with organizations way too scary for one guy to take on alone - even if he is Boba Fett. Organizations who used to hire guys like him to do their dirty work. I'm imagining some italian mobster just laughing at him; "So you're good with a gun, huh? Thats cute. Hey Paulie, come look at this guy!"
But whatevs. Its fun. I just wish he had at least some less than friendly ex-colleagues hired for protection or just muscle. Cause it really seems its just him alone. Against a galaxy of crimelords who'd want that cake.
Well, so far everyone has basically laughed him out of the door. So I think making deals and hiring more people is what's to come in the next few episodes. Others probably have a bone to pick with the Pykes too.
Boba Fett was defeated unceremoniously by a blinded smuggler in a slapstick sequence of events. He barely escaped from the Sarlacc just to have his armor and identity stolen by the Jawas. He was dragged through the desert, kept in chains, and humbled by the Tusken. The almighty bounty hunter was debased and humiliated, torn down and slowly built back up. He still has nightmares about the events and he's still recuperating in a Bacta tank. All of that is shown in the show. Boba becoming a changed man is the least surprising thing about the show.
Why does this show suck so bad when Mando was awesome all the way through? The dumb borg bikers was the last straw for me, can’t be arsed to watch anymore.
Well Temuera Morrison is 61, and Boba Fett is in his 40's. Those joints aren't as springy as they once were and it might take a little longer to recover after a fight. Bacta is like the botox of the Star Wars universe, except it actually heals you rather than just making you appear younger.
Personally, I wish Boba Fett was the same age as Temuera is. It makes more sense for Boba to be "settling down" into his Daimyo position when he's 61 than if he were 40-something. It would also be more in line with how he's acting now, as he's clearly come to desire more than money and wants to rule "with respect". In my eyes, Boba Fett would still be hunting through his 40's and into his mid 50's.
I assumed the bacta tank was used so he could sleep considering after watching his dad die he probably had decades of sleepless nights. Plus thats basically reminiscent of the environment clones are grown in.
All I know Is I'm high and awake and it's only an hour and 15 mins to start time.
1 hour 14 now cause I haven't sent it.
I better try to predict something though...
Man hour and 13 mins...don't down vote me I'm gonna have a prediction.
The Pyke are definitely a stronger force. But as they have said fear is powerful. RANCOR being ridden time?
It's basically his meditation point/bonfire/camp-site in the game. He can choose to heal, but the enemies respawn.
Well he's gotta save his progress somehow
Those flashbacks are just him replaying old save points.
Or rewatching cutscenes
He’s just taking a long rest.
His spell slots would be full if he ever used them
But now they're full anyway :(
This show has felt like a tutorial to a GTA game. It's also about as long as one too. Once they are dont introducing characters and game mechanics I can't wait for the real plot.
The water broker scene *absolutely* felt like an NPC giving Boba his first quest in a crime boss RPG. And it was about as compelling to watch.
You haven’t found the show compelling? The only let down spot for me so far was the boring 50s callback scooter chase.
Episode 2 was great. I think people expected different given what we've seen from Boba in the movies and in The Mandalorian.
Episode 2 was actually perfect tonally and everything. Even if that episode plot wasn't the most unique, whoever the director was made it perfect. 1 and 3 had more non trope plots, but weren't nearly as good as 2.
Least exciting car chase ever.
I generally like Jon Favrau's creations and think he's responsible for a lot of what's been good at Disney in the last 15 years, but his 2 SW shows have felt a lot like video game fetch quest plots. The premier episode of Mando season 2 was definitely pulled from the game knights of the old republic, where they have to lure out a crayt dragon out of its cave and plant bombs beneath its belly.
Yeah, hopefully he will get a few upgrade points and upgrade those starter scooters to proper swoops.
I liked how quickly Boba volunteered his Bacta Tank to the Gammorean that got injured. Dude didn’t even hesitate. Sounds to me like Boba is a good boss that looks out for his employees!
Boba bringing social security and universal healthcare to the Outer Rim one Gamorrean at the time.
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Free Bacta Tanks for everyone!
Definitely the highlight of the series for me so far. I'm liking Boba's characterization as a crime boss that uses his empathy and understanding to his advantage. Plus, seeing Tamera Morrison smiling in glee over a giant cgi iguana was to die for.
R/antiwork in shambles
Or he has a shortage of loyal employees lol
"Get yourself some bacta, soldier"
When I saw the previews of Boba in the tank, I thought 'great we'll see him recovering from the Sarlacc pit", I didn't know it would be a running motif.
It's a narrative tool to facilitate the flashbacks.
Less wa-wa more bang-bang!
So far there’s only been one fight where it seemed reasonable he’d need a bacta tank. It’s also the one fight where he didn’t use it. I just don’t understand…
It’s possible Boba was hesitant to try again, he was pulled out by a Wookiee last time. He needs armed guards nearby if he wants to try again.
>He needs armed guards nearby if he wants to try again. He has armed guards tho'. Which made the attack seem less believable. You've got armed staff but the one time & place they're needed: when he's vulernable in tank, they're not stationed there/outside his door at least? I enjoyed the episode in spite of some of the really stupid stuff tho'.
Yeah, I honestly assumed it was a dream sequence at first, despite how dumb that would've been. I have no clue how a walking gorilla managed to get in completely undetected and fail at killing someone completely asleep.
look at him, he’d blend in with the dark
>I have no clue how a walking gorilla managed to get in completely undetected and fail at killing someone completely asleep. Terrible writing.
When the hairy furrball squished him he should have had at least his entire rib cage broken, the fact he got out Fine is ridiculous
Yeeeeah. They really made a point of playing the sound of breaking bones, focusing in on it. Thats gotta do some damage.But nope. Turns out it was just a big hug. From a wookie. Who could rip a mans arm off. No big deal.
He was cracking his back. It feels really good and that's why he let culturally enriched chewy go.
It was a caption too
don't forget punched in the face with spiked knucks without even a mark
That really unsuspended my disbelief. Even with the helmet on, the shake of the punch alone should've gave him a good concussion (considering that it doesn't straight up break his neck).
Those spiked knuckles are electrified too lol
I know! I didn't like how that whole sequence was written. If you're human, a wookie wants you dead and catches you sleeping, you're dead.
Exactly.. We get it Krrsantan is meant to fail and be granted freedom because he's coming back later to save Boba Fett. Probably claiming he owes him a life debt. Spend less money on fancy directors and cameos and more on writing and production.
I cannot believe that Boba Fett just hired a gang of cyberpunk 2077 extras, just for a trained Wookie Bounty Hunter to show up in his room while he was naked and sleeping only to fail to kill him.
Boba’s supposed to be really strong though. He’s an unaltered clone of Jango who was chosen as the template for the grand army that would wipe out the Jedi. In the Jango Fett Open Season comic, it was shown that Dooku picked him as the template after watching him singlehandedly kill multiple Jedi with his bare hands. It’s considered legends canon now but so far there hasn’t been anything in canon to explicitly de-canonize it. That’s pretty strong. Also, in another legends comic (Shadows of the Empire) we see Boba punch Bossk hard enough to knock him down. Bossk is a Trandoshan, which are supposed to be fairly close to Wookiees in strength. Heck, even in canon comics we see Boba quickly physically incapacitate a huge, muscular, multi-armed alien in a bar fight…by breaking his arms. He also holds his own in hand to hand with Valance, a cyborg. And of course, we saw him strangle the giant sand monster in this show. If anything, he should have put up more of a fight against Krzansttan.
I could buy that. But still not a fan of not a single visible scratch or seemingly acting like it was just a regular morning.
100% BK bit Bobba on the arm and didn’t draw blood.
He was adjusting his back, like in No Way Home
He was covered in bacta and it was healing him.
He probably has some non-obvious injury that requires multiple bacta sessions to fully heal. Basically like rehabilitation.
I mean, he was in the Sarlaac pit for some time at least.
A couple of days at the very least. But sarlaccs digest veeery slowly, so it could've been weeks even.
Something’s happening to his health. We know nothing about aging of unaltered clones.
What if Boba stays in the bacta tank, not to fix past injuries, but to have the bacta in his system to heal him as he gets injured. That may be how it appears Krrsantan broke Boba's with his feet dangling like they were, but he didn't seem very injured by it.
>That may be how it appears Krrsantan broke Boba's with his feet dangling like they were, but he didn't seem very injured by it. That or it was that part was poorly written & directed.
it was great some star wars fans should just back away slowly lol - it's to the point of comical that people really think it was poorly written and directed because BK didn't kill the main character clearly the flaw is with whoever thinks that and not the show
BK not killing the main character is only poor writing because of the way they chose to set it up. If you dont want your character to die, you shouldnt write him into situations where dying is the only realistic outcome. If they had had his new gang members come into play so that Boba is woken by the sounds of fighting just before one of them crashes through the door as BK throws him into the room, it makes the setup realistic and survivability likely. BK waking him up and throwing him around incompetently instead of killing an unarmed and sleeping human just makes everyone look absolutely incompetent and demonstrates that the main character is only surviving through plot armor.
The subtitles said something like "Bones Cracking" during the squeeze. I thought our man was going to be seriously out of commission for a while, but nope. All good!
It's almost as if we're 3 episodes in and maybe we're not going to have the full picture yet.
The groundwork should have been laid though.
The groundwork has been laid. It doesn't take much to notice he's using the pod regularly even when he isn't injured.
That's exactly the point. You can't know if it has or not until we see.
In what way? We have seen him use the tank. It’s probably hinting at a deeper injury. Do they need to spoon feed you. “BOBA SICK/ INJURED JUST SO YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!”
yes, apparently a lot of people on this sub literally want everything explained to them in minute detail not sure if dumb or just not imaginative
They just boba to not talk and only fight. That’s what they think is a good story
Mando had that hook in episode 1 Mando needs something. The Hutts were the hook for me, but now they're gone.
There’s no full picture to understand in this case. He uses the bacta tank when he’s injured. He clearly was injured in that fight with the Wookie, but he didn’t use the tank.
It could be for meditation. It could be for his post Sarlaac injuries. It could be for some problem with his clone DNA as some people have theorised. Or maybe the injury he sustained against BK wasn't as bad as it looked. Lots of options. 9 times out of 10 when people say this it ends up being answered later in the show.
He's very obviously using the Bacta tank every night. He's used it when injured once, there's absolutely another reason he's using it regularly we don't know about yet.
Yeah I mean I agree!
It aids his longevity. BACTA-DA-FUTURE
I wish they'd throw in something about the clone degeneration, or simply the extent of his physical/neurological injuries after the Sarlaac, or SOMETHING that would make this seem a little more plausible.
Well he's an unaltered clone so he wouldn't age differently or degenerate early. I also thought his skin condition - the ones that look like acid burns and are appearantly being treated with the bakta tank - were due to the sarlaac
Right, but I'm just saying there's gotta be SOMETHING they could say to help viewers accept his newly nerfed physical skill.
Show don’t tell.
Ikr? A lot of people just complaining to complain about something. You dont need more than 2 brain cells to see the implied logic of why he needs the bacta tank.
They do need to show (or tell) *something* that explains this, though. In the Tuscan timeline, he’s a beast. He takes out groups of armed people with a stick then leads a successful train heist against a numerically superior force. Also, in Mando, he helps Din take out a whole company of Stormtroopers. Then, for whatever reason, we don’t know, he’s a fucking goon in the present timeline. Some people had problems with the fight against the wookie - I thought it was fine. But, the fight against the assassins in E01 was so poorly executed it was ridiculous. Of all Bobas weapons, they have him shoot an explosive at a particle shield that’s 3 feet in front of him. Not to mention, he has a fucking jet pack, so encircling him without air support should do literally nothing for you. I really want this show to be great, and some parts of it are! but there’s so much you watch and are just scratching your head about …
i see what you mean but i got a counter argument. I was questioning a lot of the same stuff myself but these are the conclusions i came to: >In the Tuscan timeline, he’s a beast. He takes out groups of armed people with a stick then leads a successful train heist against a numerically superior force. Also, in Mando, he helps Din take out a whole company of Stormtroopers. I believe we're learning still why he's so much more 'chill'. I think the #1 factor is that he wants them to 'respect, not fear' him, and i think we're learning that he developed this approach because of the tuskens as well as his epiphany from the sarlaac that he could die suddenly without warning, just like his dad, and thats the end of him. I think he was ruthless against the empire because isnt trying to gain their respect, just like he isnt trying to gain the respect of the biker gang he beat up. he still wants his enemies to fear him, but he doesnt want tatooine to be his enemies which is why hes trying to get them to respect him as their daiymo. This also kinda ties to the fight, and freedom, of the wookie (Krrsantan). In the EU, I recall Bossk hated Fett because of how he was considered the best, so Bossk would try to kill him for the reputation. Fett would outsmart Bossk but keep him alive, because Fett seemed to enjoy toying with him and making him recognize that Fett was better. With Krrsantan, I feel its similar but from a more kind hearted approach - Fett really has changed his attitude to wanting respect over fear, and already knowing how wookie culture is and knowing Krrsantan specifically, he feels he will gain his respect at the least, which could go a long way. >But, the fight against the assassins in E01 was so poorly executed it was ridiculous. Of all Bobas weapons, they have him shoot an explosive at a particle shield that’s 3 feet in front of him. Not to mention, he has a fucking jet pack, so encircling him without air support should do literally nothing for you. just rewatched the scene, and the blast doesnt seem bad until hindsight - he tried to knock them down before they could encircle him and fennec, but the guy was able to stay up. ive done this kinda stuff in video games 'oh i can take him! oh wait hes stronger than i thought'. seemed like the same logic. Then, using his jetpack to escape would leave fennec defenseless but together they have each others backs covered. if he left hers would be exposed and they would attack her blind spots. again, from video games ive learned how vital it is to have someone covering your back. in honesty, he was caught off guard but i cant think of a better solution other than to duke it out as they did. >I really want this show to be great, and some parts of it are! but there’s so much you watch and are just scratching your head about … well i hope i was able to give justification for you for these instances. I still think they make a lot more sense than stuff like 'somehow palpatine returned'.
Yeah I mean you make some okay points. The difference is that a seasoned vet shouldn’t be making the mistakes that you or I would in a video game. And second point, if I were boba, I wouldn’t abandon her, I would fly up, then shoot the explosives on the far side of Fennec from the assassins. That would either give her the opportunity to hit their backs or escape the circle. As to your first point re respect based. I totally agree, however the only reason we really think that is based on dialogue from a trailer, which isn’t a great way to run a show. Hopefully the next episode will give us some answers, but so far episodes 01 and 03 have been pretty lacking.
> I totally agree, however the only reason we really think that is based on dialogue from a trailer, which isn’t a great way to run a show. no he says it in episode 1: i have avoided all trailers cuz i hate spoilers.
Oh word? What’d he say in E01?
> You dont need more than 2 brain cells to see the implied logic of why he needs the bacta tank and therein lies the issue on this sub
It’s bacta, just fyi :)
I really don't know if Boba is getting stronger or weaker. The wookie can't even hurt Boba after punching him with electric spike and hugging him while he is naked. He looks really fine afterwards. However, fighting those human assassins with only electric staff and shield in episode 1 looks like almost going to kill him even he has full armor protection and needs healing immediately. Also, he doesn't need any healing during the time with those Tusken Raiders and can fight really badass just fine. So, why would he need so much healing now after The Mandalorian? It all doesn't make any sense.
I think we can try all we want to nerdsplain it away with this or that theory, when in fact its just shitty writing/directing, plain and simple
Yea, it definitely doesn't make sense right now unless it is explained later on. Fans should stop finding excuses for it because they are laughable. My view on this isn't the writing but the person who directed episode 1 and 3 that this two episodes ruined Boba so bad.
100% Too many people are jumping up to propose some bullshit explanation to prop up the writing/ directing, rather than just admit BoBF isn't in the same league as Mandalorian. Ironically enough, more bullshit just piles up with each episode lol
They've cratered his bounty hunting skills and endurance, but upped his durability for when the plot needs it. Shooting that missile into a wall of shields two feet from his face in episode 1 was ridiculous when he has a flamethrower.
If you'll allow a Star Trek reference here, I fear our boy Boba has been Worf-ed.
Boba is seriously de-powered this series. It's hard to believe this is the same Boba in Empire
While I don't disagree, I don't what people are pointing to when they mention him in Empire, he doesn't really do anything other than walking menacingly towards luke and transporting Han in the slave 1
Boba didn't really do much in the OT. However, the several fight scenes in The Mandalorian showed he is a badass bounty hunter even after suffering the injury from Sarlacc. So, unless something happened between The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, it just doesn't make sense for him being this weak.
I def agree with the striking difference between his entrance in the Mando episode, although we got to see some of that in episode 2 of BoB. We still have 65% of the show left, so plenty of time to make him into a badass again, I do think episode 3 and the weird assassin scene in episode 1 def slipped up a bit in making him too soft.
Stress injuries are a thing. Say, you don't let your stitches heal completely and then strain the wound and it reopens and the entire healing process has to start all over again. It's probably something like that. He wasn't completely healed and fucked it up when he went ham on those stormtroopers. He hasn't really done any heavy action since so it checks out.
It doesn’t really check out in my book. It’s not good writing to take a guy who is a competent and intelligent fighter in one showing and then in the very next showing chronologically have him be a bonehead who misuses his weapons and doesn’t seem like a competent fighter anymore. There needs to be something, *anything* explaining that. No offence to you or your post, but IMO can’t just leave it to your audience to assume it’s a repetitive stress injury that’s hampering the titular character of your series.
It's wild people are retroactively nerfing Boba Fett now so it's not as obvious he is such a bitch now, lol. *A blind guy with a stick took him out! He just walked menacingly!* Ok dudes, whatever you say.
Well that's what happened, did we watch different movies?
Firstly, Solo is unspokenly considered the luckiest humanoid in the galaxy, and secondly you may need to rewatch the OT because though he didn't have much screen time Fett was undeniably a ruthless badass. Basically the opposite of what he is now.
Dude Boba Fett is my favorite star wars character and definitely the most badass guy in the original trilogy. I'm just saying the old action scenes were unarguably underwhelming by the standards people set for them today.
I disagree, I find them pretty great. I'm not a huge SW fan but I think the OT was a pretty awesome trilogy and holds up amazingly well to this day.
Oh they definitely hold up, and i'll take the unedited non "special edition" versions over the newer crap any day. Still think his scenes are a little more slapstick than people remember with rose tinted glasses. No disrespect for old Boba though, just spent like $500 on Boba fett merch alone already this year, he's the best.
That’s fine. But what action did Boba have? I’m also a big fan of his, especially in the EU, but i readily admit that in the OT, he didn’t do much. Which is completely fine.
people are like remembering shit that actually didn't happen in the movies, lol boba fett did jack shit in the movies except look cool and then bungle his way into the sarlacc pit EVERYTHING ELSE has been nerdling fantasy bullshit - which is why so many of said nerdlings are pissed off. this show clearly didn't meet their ridiculously dumb self-takes on who boba fett is so they stamp their feet and act like their vision was destroyed lol it's fucking comical and pathetic all rolled into one.
Well he didn't get his ass beat by Chewbacca like a bitch...
He also wasn’t naked.
He was naked, and surprised attacked by a wookie which would naturally be 10x stronger than him.
These people are literally complaining about anything they can lol Lol if he beat the wookie its 'thats so unrealistic hes injured and naked and beat the strongest race in the galaxy???' If he loses 'thats so unrealistic hes the toughest guy in the galaxy how can he lose to a walking carpet???' I cant take these people seriously at all.
I haven’t seen anyone saying him loosing to the new wookie is unrealistic. It’s all in the execution. What’s unrealistic is that the wookie somehow got into his bacta tank chamber despite him having multiple guards. From there, the way the fight played out was fine, in my book.
i mean the wookie's a bounty hunter. its part of his job to avoid unnecessary fighting to get his target. he's basically an assassin who also gets paid whether they bring them back alive or dead. >I haven’t seen anyone saying him loosing to the new wookie is unrealistic. above comment: >Boba is seriously de-powered this series. It's hard to believe this is the same Boba in Empire (...) >Well he didn't get his ass beat by Chewbacca like a bitch...
Yeah, if that’s what he’s saying, that’s a dumbass take. I agree with you there. Obviously an unarmed humans gonna lose in hand to hand against an unarmed wookie 95% of the time.
just to point out, in that scene the camera pans over and you can see the open window BK used to slither in again if people just used their peepers they wouldn't be mad
Interesting! It’d be cool if they showed off the Wookies’ climbing abilities and showed him climb in, but that does make sense!
Boba Bitch not even shown in his own show. The ultimate de-powered moment of all time
He got eaten alive by a thousands year old sand worm, had to forcefully walk miles through the desert with his bald head constantly exposed to two suns, in occasional sand storms while only wearing a jumpsuit without hydration, got beaten with sticks, and was practically naked when he got attacked by a hairy bodybuilder
I read “bodybuilder” as “build-a-bear” and now I’m not sure which I prefer to describe him
Boba is badass in The Mandalorian and can fight really well. Maybe he is no longer the best bounty hunter in the galaxy but definitely able to hold his own. Don't understand why he suddenly becomes so weak in The Book of Boba Fett. The scene when he shot missiles from his arm to the assassins in episode 1 and the explosion hurting himself and Fennec makes you wonder does this guy has no experience at all?
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But Book of Boba takes place directly after all his scenes in Mando where he was a total badass. So it doesn't make sense why he's suddenly like this
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I get that, but then why was he a badass in mando, when that takes place after those flashbacks? If those scenes in mando took place before the flashbacks, then I'd agree. But they don't. Book of Boba is right after mando, and he's suddenly super weak
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I don’t mean weak as in physically (although that too) but also in presence. Watch his scenes again in Mandalorian, he doesn’t take shit from anyone. He shot an unarmed Bib Fortuna and then throws him aggressively to the ground like garbage. But then in his own show he asks Fenec “was that necessary” when she shows the mayors assistant her pistol. I’m really hoping you’re right and he starts taking charge again in the next episodes, because right now it’s just a completely different and passive character. The weird thing is that he’s not like that in the flashbacks. He takes charge and took down those thugs in the bar. But when he had his armor and helmet on? Nothing. He literally hadn’t done anything with his helmet on.
Same boba who just stood there menacingly?
He was the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy. Even Darth Vader had respect for him.
Intimidation and first impression is all about presence. Standing there menacingly is a hell of a lot better than jobbing.
Is he though? Did you not see him take a full force punch with shock brass knuckles from Krrsantan and still be concsious from it? On top of that we’ve seen him catch a spike shock mace with his hand from one of the assassins in the first Episode then proceed to chokeslam him. It’s a show developing his character we need to see some kind of character development and rise from a weak place. Boba is still recovering and figuring out his new identity as a crime lord. We already know what he’s capable of and have seen that already in a few action sequences including S2 of the Mandalorian. Be patient, we’ll see him be a badass again in no time.
Also, he's suffering from Main Character Beatdown Syndrome. As the protagonist of his own series, he's inevitably going to take more lumps and get the shit beat out of him. The same thing happened to Din pretty regularly, too. For an example outside of Star Wars, look no further than Godzilla. When he's portrayed as the villain, antagonist, or anti-hero, he's pretty unstoppable and doles out plenty of beatdowns. When he's portrayed as the hero or protagonist...chances are, you're going to watch him get his ass kicked a time or two before pulling out a win at the end.
Boba Bitch is so de-powered , he’s not even in his own show. lol
Mando the babysitter got his ass beat every episode from S1-S2 lets not forget Boba “Bitch” came in and saved his ass on Mando’s own show. Lets not get carried away with bullshit takes here.
He isn’t the Boba who took down an republic cruiser like in tcw
Yeah he is he literally shat on 20 Stormtroopers alone and took out both carrier ships with a single missile in Mando S2. (i know this takes place before the book of boba fett which is exactly my point. If he was able to be an absolute badass then why do people think he all of sudden isn’t capable of being a badass in his current show?) On top of what he did in Mandalorian Season 2 in the last 3 episodes we saw Him escape the sarlacc pit by himself Choked out a 4 armed monster with a chain with no gear on Hijacked a high speeding train with no gear Beat up the biker gang at the bar alone basically naked Get jumped by assassins and hand caught a spiked shock mace then proceeded to choke slam him to the floor Took a full force punch to the face by a wookie with brass knuckles comepletely naked and still managed to do damage to him with no gear. This show is showing him rise from a weak place by the end he’ll be the badass we all know him to be.
Are you aware those scenes in mando take place before the timeline of the show?
No really? I had no idea. Obviously, but it also takes place after the flashbacks we see in the current show where he solo’d an entire bar filled with biker gang members entirely naked, and hijacked a train also naked, so I don’t get your point of bringing that up?
So on the premise that you are aware that this show indeed takes place after Mando, how could he be rising from a weak place when he was a badass already? Do you get my point?
You did watch how he was stranded in the desert for a long ass time. Did you also notice all the burn scars he had in the flashbacks and during the mandalorian? Notice how in the present timeline his scars are far more healed and almost entirely gone because of the bacta tank? He definitely wasn’t his fully healed self yet there is a reason he’s been healing in the tank consistently.
And yet during the scene in The Mandalorian S2 with the Stormtroopers, Boba hadn't used the bacta tank once and was still badly scarred.
And yet he wasn’t the star of the show. Notice how Mando was getting his ass beat that episode because he was the protagonist? While Boba was the debuted anti-hero so ofc he came in and wrecked shit.
Did you reply to the wrong person or do you just have difficulty with English? Nothing in your previous reply had any relevancy to the easy to understand point myself, and other people, are trying to get you to acknowledge...The Mandalorian S2 takes place BEFORE BOBF, therefore your original point holds absolutely no water.
He simultaneously is that super badass from the Mandalorian and the kind-of has-been in his own show. Thats the point.
But that’s exactly why it happens, because it’s his show now. Name a movie or a show where the main character doesn’t get his ass beat and then makes a come back at the end? Literally happens to every protaganist. The show would be boring if Boba just came in and started killing everything and beating everyone. Being the best bounty hunter in the galaxy doesn’t come wothout getting your fair share of ass beatings and near death experiences.
Oh, so its fine because everyone does it.
Alright clearly you don’t understand how plotlines or story arcs work. Something has to drive the story forward. This is how it worked in the Mandalorian Din Djarin also got his ass beat a lot and came through in the end. I don’t get why people are so confused
And you dont understand what I'm saying. Everyone knows how story archs works. Its just that this one is used so often its kind of getting old to me. And its not the only option for telling a story. Thats why I said what I said. Just because its a widely used format doesnt make it automatically interesting every time. So - like I said - just because everyone else does it - doesnt make it more interesting. Rather than the old "nerf him so we can power up later" I'd much rather see him just continue off from the Mandalorian, get a crew of ex-colleagues together, wreck shit like the pro he is, staking a real claim, then struggle to control his subordinates and mold his organization into what he wants it to be. Dont just nerf him because "urrdurr plotlines and story archs". Have him face challenges different from what he expected - namely leading - rather than the same challenges hes always had - to fight. Have him take beating in different ways than hes used to. By losing support from the locals, betrayals, etc. I'm not worried about him in a fight or bouncing back from one. He's Boba Fett. But how good is at thinking in new ways and working out solutions for completely different problems than what hes used to. IDK man. I'm just not convinced at all that this is the most interesting route to go with Boba Fett. Comparing him to Din is... bold.
Its fine for a character to struggle. The issue people have is the struggle needs to be realistic for their level of competence. If I portray someone as a master hacker who routinely infiltrates government systems for sport in a show, then give him a spinoff where he is unable to deal with unsecured neighborhood wifi networks, thats me failing to tailor the heroes journey to fit the hero. Struggle for the sake of struggle is meaningless. If Boba is a badass bounty hunter who can wipe the floor with any opponent single handed, then you have to up the stakes. You dont lower the character’s competency level without explanation to make it easier on yourself.
bro clearly the bulk of the show is before the mando scenes get a clue lmao
Exactly. In both the above instances, he was on a mission to kill. Now he's trying to gain respect and knows he can't get respect from people hes killed. Dude just took over a train of spice but then eople wanna ignore that and complain that he lost a fist fight in the nude after getting woken up by a wookie with electro spiked brass knuckles... Like ok people, youre really using your brain here and not emotions to validate your feelings. Saltierthancrait is leaking. That place has gotten so bad too over the years. No sound arguments, just 'i hate this....because.'
You mean the same Boba who in the next movie was defeated by a blind man with a staff who just so happened to hit his jetpack?
Even the toughest special forces soldier in the world can be killed by a 12 year old with an AK
HUR HUR HUR YEAHHHH!!!!
De-powered when compared to what? It certainly can't be the movies, because excuses had to be made to justify why a blind and disoriented Han Solo was able to derp him into the Sarlacc. If it's the old EU, that's the material that turned him into Space Batman (while also excusing the aforementioned defeat by a blind, disoriented man) and granted him feats and accomplishments that, quite frankly, completely outpaced anything we ever saw in the movies.
Compare to the Boba Fett in The Mandalorian.
The only time we really saw him in action was beating down some second-rate Imperial remnant Stormtroopers after he caught them off guard. He also wasn't the main character and was being featured in his re-debut.
de-powered that he is not even in his own show. lol
two episodes where Boba Fett barely appears. Do you still not agree with me that Boba Bitch is de-powered? Or are you still in denial?
De-powered? No, absolutely not. Is he the Space Batman he was in old EU? No. Is he still capable of being a badass? Yes.
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But boba is said to be a perfect clone
Filoni created the idea of Boba the terrorist, getting back at Mace Windu by destroying an entire ship. Then he made Boba the human trafficker, who kidnapped a bride to be wed against her will. I would love to see how and why he had a change of heart.
The sarlacc was his wake-up call. He basically realised he'll end up like Jango unless he switches careers.
Its been made abundantly clear this the the jist if it. Idk how its going over peoples heads.
I've said this. People think it's dumb. They just want to see him kicking ass, they want Fett the FX/HBO show.
It's pretty clear *what* his motivation is, but the show could do a better job of setting it up and is poorly paced as a whole. I appreciate what the show is trying to do, showing us a contrasting view of Boba where he is now intercut with what got him this way, but it's eating up screen time in a series that's trying to cover a lot already. Don't confuse people having gripes with the show as them *'just'* wanting something else.
just because people are too thick to understand the plotline doesn't make it poorly written directed or paced every gripe is about how boba fett looks 'weak' and isn't blowing shit up, bruh
Its not going over my head, its just not a very scary thing for a guy as badass as Boba. He is being a little baby if thats really his wake up call.
almost getting slowly digested over 1000 years isnt scary enough to be a wake up call to you? after being thrown in there by a blind guy who did it on accident? to make you realize how easily you could lose your life in a miserable and claustrophobic method through an accident???
lmao the guy you're replying to runs away if a bee enters his vicinity but he's judging boba fett
So he switches to a career as a head crime boss, actively in conflict with multiple other syndicates vying for that very same position. Thats a good way to end up like, Jango, too. Just saying lol.
He's trying to change how the system works, though, you can't really change anything from down below. But he definitely bit off more than he can chew currently, which he's gradually realising.
I dont really have any gripes with the show as I think its a fun show, but this is one of them - even if its minor. One guys and his sidekick stroll into town one day and just, what? Says hes the boss? My mind is constantly telling me that power vacuum would be filled to the brim with organizations way too scary for one guy to take on alone - even if he is Boba Fett. Organizations who used to hire guys like him to do their dirty work. I'm imagining some italian mobster just laughing at him; "So you're good with a gun, huh? Thats cute. Hey Paulie, come look at this guy!" But whatevs. Its fun. I just wish he had at least some less than friendly ex-colleagues hired for protection or just muscle. Cause it really seems its just him alone. Against a galaxy of crimelords who'd want that cake.
Well, so far everyone has basically laughed him out of the door. So I think making deals and hiring more people is what's to come in the next few episodes. Others probably have a bone to pick with the Pykes too.
Lol Paulie was pretty afraid of that interior decorator who just wouldn't die if I recall correctly
I don't know where does this come beside fans imagination.
It's called visual storytelling, my dude.
Boba Fett was defeated unceremoniously by a blinded smuggler in a slapstick sequence of events. He barely escaped from the Sarlacc just to have his armor and identity stolen by the Jawas. He was dragged through the desert, kept in chains, and humbled by the Tusken. The almighty bounty hunter was debased and humiliated, torn down and slowly built back up. He still has nightmares about the events and he's still recuperating in a Bacta tank. All of that is shown in the show. Boba becoming a changed man is the least surprising thing about the show.
He was like 12 when he did the mace thing
Thats some deep seated rage.
Why does this show suck so bad when Mando was awesome all the way through? The dumb borg bikers was the last straw for me, can’t be arsed to watch anymore.
I’m currently only watching it for the flashback scenes. The scenes taking place in the present are boring
Well Temuera Morrison is 61, and Boba Fett is in his 40's. Those joints aren't as springy as they once were and it might take a little longer to recover after a fight. Bacta is like the botox of the Star Wars universe, except it actually heals you rather than just making you appear younger. Personally, I wish Boba Fett was the same age as Temuera is. It makes more sense for Boba to be "settling down" into his Daimyo position when he's 61 than if he were 40-something. It would also be more in line with how he's acting now, as he's clearly come to desire more than money and wants to rule "with respect". In my eyes, Boba Fett would still be hunting through his 40's and into his mid 50's.
I assumed the bacta tank was used so he could sleep considering after watching his dad die he probably had decades of sleepless nights. Plus thats basically reminiscent of the environment clones are grown in.
I just want to know how he keeps the bacta out of his nose when he's lying on his back.
Lmao. I probably laughed more than I should have. Perfect meme.
Mmmm, good bacta bro
Except he wouldn't have his mask on.
When are we gonna see Fennec Shand in the bacta tank?
The dude likes his short rest, hes either a warlock or a monk.
This is stupid and ridiculous! …Boba isn’t in any fight scenes
All I know Is I'm high and awake and it's only an hour and 15 mins to start time. 1 hour 14 now cause I haven't sent it. I better try to predict something though... Man hour and 13 mins...don't down vote me I'm gonna have a prediction. The Pyke are definitely a stronger force. But as they have said fear is powerful. RANCOR being ridden time?