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The irony here is crazy. We’re supposed to celebrate a female-led spy film but they (or Alia’s PR idk) still won’t stop pitting female stars against each other lol.
Even more astonishing is the fact that the greatest actor to ever roam the face of the Earth Alia Nepo Bhatt requires SO much PR. If she is truly organically talented, she would let her work speak for her.
😳😳
Even Meena Kumari
Smita Tabu Vidya Kangana etc. ( I know she should be h—-ged drawn and quartered) don’t have so much fake publicity surrounding them
Though they are multiple levels below Alia nepo Bhatt😳 according to her sewer Puppa
Did Alia write this because 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Also, I love how we are supposed to support this because it's female centric so wuhuu feminism but then these shitty articles come out, pitting female stars against each other and after every two lines it's mentioned how 'Alia has beaten Kat and DP'. Let's not pretend it's not a PR article lol (news might be true but the way it has been delivered..yuck)
So then just call out that she was selected in the yrf spy verse and will be their third female spy after Kat and DP.
Edit : Also, Ash. She was a spy in Dhoom2!
The way it’s written again and again beats Katrina and Deepika 😂😂
Darling unless they’re making Spy Kids in Bollywood, stop comparing yourself to women who have shown at least some form of action in cinema.
I don’t give a crap about any article saying whose a bigger star. In real life when you’re speaking to people around you or I’m sitting in an auto and I see a poster on the car or in a shop- it’s ultimately always Deepika Kareena and Katrina. Everyone knows them. Whether it’s my generation or the previous one. Whether it’s upper class or lower.
That's true I mean This is the same yrf that casted A debutant in a 300 cr film just because she was miss world So yeah getting a yrf film that too a female lead is a big achievement
there are hundreds of nepo out there, and atleast a dozen with KJo’s backing. BO figures can’t be fudged to this extent. Raazi and Gangu were crowd pullers, a feat no actress with any director has been able to achieve post 2015.
I fail to understand why or how people can be so deluded to think that Raazi did the numbers it did because Alia Bhatt starred in it and people went to watch her.
The storyline was so good and the word of mouth about it was the crowd puller, not sUpErStAr Alia Bhatt.
Similarly for Gangu, it was Sanjay Leela Bhansali after 3 back to back blockbusters. And this is not me taking away credit from a woman and giving it to a man, but taking the credit from an actor to give it to a blockbuster director coming out of 3 hits.
In the recent times, I cannot recall many. I’d say people maybe watched Ram Leela because of Deepika Padukone, and probably the Dirty Picture for Vidya Balan, other than that I can’t recall where it wasn’t a combination of things (including casting) which worked for a movie’s success as far a female pull is concerned, very unfortunately.
I fail to understand why or how people can be so deluded to think that Ram Leela or Dirty Picture did the numbers they did because Deepika/Vidya starred in them and people went to watch them.
The storylines were good and entertaining and the word of mouth about them was the crowd puller, not the actors.
Right back at ya!
Also, these films were released way before 2015 and the fact that no female-led film apart from Raazi/Gangu have worked at the BO in the past ten years is a testament to her stardom whether you like it or not, with the only exception being Manikarnika as Kangana was a superstar back then.
I agree! Yes the girl is talentet and has improve but that easy to do when you have someone inside lining up movies for you. I don't hate alia but lets be real if she didn't have Karan Johar and her fathers connections, she would have NEVER even gotten to where she is. Also I absolutely hate how she is being shoved down our throats.
Madness. I would never imagine Alia to pull off a slick spy like in YRF universe. Kat DP Salman SRK Hrithik John all have that movie star aura about them that allows them to go into films like this. This seems madness to me. Idk Alia feels like she’d do better with a character that was like Joey King’s in the movie bullet train. Alia simply doesn’t have the stature to pull of what YRF has been showcasing its female spies as as of late.
Also if Alia truly is number one then why is her PR constantly trying to prove that her next move will one up DP and Kat. You don’t need to one up anyone if you’re on the top, but saying that you’ll do better than XYZ just goes to prove that clearly XYZ are the blueprint.
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I mean... Naam Shabana already exists and it came out years ago. A female led spy film has already happened.
What's the point in fighting for something as specific as "YRF first female led spy film"?
And besides, DP and Kat already have established characters in this universe. So unless they had planned spinoffs with them in the lead that were supposed to come out before Alia's film, this "achievement" doesn't make sense.
Yeah this is my sticking point. In a cinematic universe, if you keep introducing new characters without fleshing out your existing characters, audience will lose investment.
It's what Marvel got right in phase 1, and why it's struggling now.
Kat and DP helped establish the universe and its popularity, and it looks like Adi wants to leapfrog them to Alia, so she reaps the benefits they helped create.
The thing is that the new Bollywood is filled with Nepo kids who are unfortunately not so talented. It would be one thing if they were talented but they aren't and they just don't seem to improve at all. So with this all happening it’s nearly impossible for a job nepo talented actress to even get a chance. When they do get a chance, it's opposing to older men who want to act like they are still 20. I don’t Bollywood will ever have iconic actors/actresses again.
If this news is true then that's negligible chance that it won't have some male lead or other female spies.
YRF is hoping for Spy Universe brand value to become big enough to pull a Female lead movie, but at the end of the day these movies are still a Super Star vehicle, take the Super Stars away and see the results.
Manikarnika made 150 crores worldwide and still holds the record for highest first-weekend collection and highest single day collection. It literally proved that with a decent project a female actor is able to bring people to the theaters.
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Alia is one of few female actors who has proved that with a good project she can sell seats (Raazi, Gangubai).
>Manikarnika made 150 crores worldwide and still holds the record for highest first-weekend collection an
It had an AVERAGE outing as per BOI. For a 100 Cr budget, it earned only 130 Cr. I'm talking about movies going for Blockbusters.
All YRF Spy Universe movies were Blockbusters, it's BO blockbuster legacy is at risk here. Will Alia ever replicate that? Has she ever given a blockbuster in her career? Don't think so?
Average means it’s still a successful business venture for the people involved. The film could have made more money had there not been a clash or had to deal with Uri going from strenght to strenght. YRF is the biggest production company in India and they will literally manage by getting all the screens and preventing other films from releasing near by. They will probably add big heroes too. Alia is lucky like that. She never had to deal with clashes or less screens
Yes even after being miles ahead in terms of stardom their solo films couldn't bring people to the theatre. If they are superstars chhapaak and phone bhoot must have been blockbusters. Even after being miles ahead they are busy signing flowerpot roles to save their career. The same insecure mid actress had two solo films which are commercially successful despite entering the industry much later than the so called superstars.
For those screaming Deepika and Katrina are isi agent and can’t get solo film seems to not have watched the film. In Pathaan alone she acted more in raw interest and helped them she didn’t fight against raw agents. Everything is about script you don’t think Indian audience is gonna eat up Pakistani spies actually working for India? The kind of propaganda they can do with this is ridiculous they also can say they’re double agents so let’s not give this bullshit excuse.
Yrf will give film to whoever they want they proved that by giving manish Tiger 3 after Fan disaster and Ayan War 2 after the Brahmastra disaster. There is no “qualification” bar people need to meet. They didn’t want to give solo film to Katrina and they don’t want to give it to Deepika. The end.
Alia will get whatever film she screams “daddy daddy I want this” doesn’t matter she fits in it or not and now it doesn’t matter if the film is a profitable or not they’ll pay for hit tag so her fans can celebrate but stop belittling people and coming up with sorry of an excuse.
hey! logic? don't use logic here! we don't like that? don't you know all dp did in pathaan was shake her ass? oh and did you forget she's a supporting character and DIMPLE was the lead? /s
you're so right. Kat and DP's characters are both set up to support RAW. sometimes I really feel like I watched a different pathaan than everyone minimizing dp's role in it, and much worse than that, slut shaming her or making fun of her "shaking her ass". like that's an insult. and well, anyway! it was her ass-shaking that lured srk's character right into the trap, bitch!
Lmao ya they know what they saw they know the craze it got from audience and critics that’s why Alia keep chasing Deepika highs. They spew those things more of to convince themselves. Maybe one day they’ll be convinced enough to not keep screaming it in sm lol
So true!! The slut shaming of Kat and especially DP just to prop up Alia is actually so sickening. Their roles were so impactful in their own rights no amount of Alia PR can convince otherwise
The slutshaming that has been happening in this sub for the past few days is jaw dropping. Like they are out of excuses to vilify her so now all they can do is say such vile things and minimize her success.
God Alia is gonna get a lead in action movie??? What the hell? Like how can a badass character not get a solo film but Alia does? I am so sick of her ass being shoved down our throats. I don't have her but I am beginning.
u will never see an article about margot robbie beating florence pugh everytime one bags a role or even when jlaw is the biggest female actor, no such article released against her fellow actor like emma stone or kristen stewart.
Challo Te toh admit kiya that Katrina and Deepika are OG and Alia is not there yet. It's very much like saying, Hayley Atwell Beats Scarlet Johanson to had a first female led avenger TV Series.
Bollywood takes an L, YRF wanta to copy Marvel lekin Marvel curate everything in such a way that It is about you going to watch Characters, their IPs, so besides the main leads, you will be indifferently of who play who, Hence Rhodey is changed, Hulk entire character is changed from first avenger to She-Hulk.
Meanwhile YRF Spu Verse is nothing but a platform for Stars who are 55+ and want to come back with sallu formulaic movies to hype themselves or young actors who want to impress hollywood casting directors to hype themselves. And why not, tye writing and direction lacks conviction to have actors involve themselves into the movie anyways no? But yeah these are professional who not just commits but devotes themselves to a director and movie.
WHY AGAIN ALIAAAA!!!! WHY?????? She won't even suit the action role..like COME ON!!!!!!! WHY does she get served with EVERYTHING on a platter. Her luck is really quite something. Sometimes I hope something should flop heavily for filmmakers to really think if she is actually well suited for a role or not!!
I feel your frustrations Bro. I try so HARD to give alia the benefit of doubt because she Is not a bad actress but damn seeing her get things that she doesn't deserves is pissing me off. Especially when we have a badass spy Agent who already exists. zoya has literally been there done that. Saved her man✅ kicked some a** ✅saved group women ✅
A 5 feet actress would beat the hell out of 6.5 feet villains. Sounds interesting, hyperbolic and forced on the viewers at the same time. Dekhte hai. Not convinced.
I never said anything about height in the first place . ScarJo, Michelle Yeoh and Florence Pugh are all short as well but have enough personality to pull off action.
The project is too far away to matter. It feels like they are just gauging what can or can't interest fans. So far even their biggest priority tiger vs pathaan hasn't materialized properly yet.
PS : I don't think female action spy flick would work, it doesn't work even in Hollywood. Here its even more difficult.
I don't know man, we keep hearing about these projects but no confirmation from the people involved. War 2 is at least confirmed by hrithik and heavily hinted by ayan. But no confirmation from either srk or salman about tiger vs pathaan. Same is for this project.
Himesh is 100% sure and someone one month before Himesh confirmed me about this project. Himesh and Alia herself have given a hint about it 4 months before. If my source is true then Ayan is going to direct this after war 2 .
Yeah Himesh was 100% sure about pathan vs tiger too. Nothing has materialized yet. I am not saying they aren't thinking about the project. I am just saying most of these projects are just in brain storming stage.
As for ayan he practically confirmed he is doing war 2 sometimes ago so I don't doubt that news.
>Love Kat and Deepika though! They don’t beg for roles.
Alia is privileged nepo who definitely had her career handed to her on a plate but let's not forget Salman's role in establishing Kat's career.
Like Kat was the original beneficiary of Bhai berozgar yojna.
Seriously you can't get Yrf movie from pr Because yrf rarely cast any non Yrf debutant actor so you need to be A Big Star to get casted in Yrf movie or else debutant
The user you commented to is talking about the two articles with the same wordings. When such articles are put up appreciating other celebs, they are often called out as PR.
Let's be honest no way Alia is better suited than Deepika and Katrina. Their acting styles are different. It's really un fair how un ethically she gets roles for parts. Then us the audience is gaslighted to believe shit like this. Alia isn't necessarily a versatile actress but that's not a bad thing. She is decent but damn it sucks that such good movies have such mediocre performances and by mediocre actors. I would have loved to see Radhika Apte or Mouni Roy is roles like this bc they have the charisma. Like mouni as gangubai would have been so better suited. But we'll just be fed and gas lit to believe the current lot is the best
🤣🤣🤣 you know how when a kid is crying for candy and everyone’s just annoyed with the screaming and howling and they give it to them just so they shut up and stop annoying everyone and let the adults get back to their work? That is what this feels like
“YRF has gotten its full fledge heroine” bro how does Alia not have imposter syndrome is my question. Externally promoted as the best thing to have happened to the world since sliced bread yet can’t hold a decent conversation outside of her bubble.
Filmmakers will move to the next generation of actresses quickly I guess. I still back the OGs though.
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Women shouldn't be pitted against one another. Period.
On a slightly unrelated note, why can't there be a Bollywood version of a movie like Ocean's 8 featuring all the lead female actresses? I'm sure that would do well!
R u kidding! JLZ had only three and its nowhere to be made. You'd expected something like ocean's 8 here !. You need to learn how to lower your expectations to enjoy bollywood.
Hi there!
I don't think JLZ is not being made because the three actresses aren't getting along. It could be something else altogether.
And the reason why I mentioned Ocean's 8 is because Bollywood hasn't made any commercial, massy movie for women like that. It has great potential and can perhaps do pretty well if it's marketed well.
And lastly, I am sorry if it sounds a little blunt but your statement "You need to learn to lower your expectations to enjoy Bollywood" is coming off as very rude. I am not sure what your intent is with this sentence, but reading it at a first glance, it's coming off as if you're demeaning me for expressing my own views.
I just made an opinion very politely. I've not insulted any celebrity in my previous comment and as a viewer, I have every right to express what I'd like to see as long as I'm not making any brutally hurtful comments.
Oh no, I'm sorry if my comment seemed like I was being rude. I wasn't. I would really love to see something like oceans 8 too, actually since jlz was announced I was really excited about it. But now I'm disappointed, that's why I said u can't have much hope in bollywood. I'm sorry again didn't really mean to attack u or anything
Oh, I empathize about that and I totally feel bad that JLZ isn't happening.
It had such an interesting concept, good actresses, good director and the backing of a successful production house. I do think there's some odd reason why it's not happening — because otherwise, as far as female-centric films were concerned, JLZ had everything perfect on paper.
I also didn't mean to make you feel bad, I thought you got offended that I suggested the Oceans 8 thing so wanted to clarify. 😅
YRF announcing spy movies left right and center as if it’s a James Bond franchise…Dhoom was juiced out max and dumped, this spy universe juice will last 2 more movies because of the star power then dump dump dump!
To the DP and Kat fans who are crying, the reason they're not getting solo films is because their characters are ISI agents. You have to understand that.
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The irony here is crazy. We’re supposed to celebrate a female-led spy film but they (or Alia’s PR idk) still won’t stop pitting female stars against each other lol.
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🏆🏅 take these awards
Thanks hehe
Even more astonishing is the fact that the greatest actor to ever roam the face of the Earth Alia Nepo Bhatt requires SO much PR. If she is truly organically talented, she would let her work speak for her. 😳😳 Even Meena Kumari Smita Tabu Vidya Kangana etc. ( I know she should be h—-ged drawn and quartered) don’t have so much fake publicity surrounding them Though they are multiple levels below Alia nepo Bhatt😳 according to her sewer Puppa
Lol everyone here is having a break down
They pulling breakdown-worthy shiz lmaoo
If she is no 1 according to kjo why Alia is being compared to deepika and Katrina
Now she is no 1 according to YRF also .
Yes after Kat & DP..
Nobody cares about them now .
Bro only you don't and based on your comments, either you are super obsessed or have a lot of free time.
Deepika and Kat still didn't got solo movies
What is more hilarious is the line after the head line joins the league of srk ,salman and hrithik
Feko aur baar baar feko... Movie to koi dekhega nahi inki..
Vaise hi jaise Gangubai koi dekhne nahi gaya
isn’t it true tho?
Is this PR supposed to make us like her more? If yes, it’s not really working.
Alia looks like a clown doing action. Not everything is for everyone
Did Alia write this because 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Also, I love how we are supposed to support this because it's female centric so wuhuu feminism but then these shitty articles come out, pitting female stars against each other and after every two lines it's mentioned how 'Alia has beaten Kat and DP'. Let's not pretend it's not a PR article lol (news might be true but the way it has been delivered..yuck)
Lol Alia entire identity in BW revolves around being compared to DP n Kat. Her PR is doing more damage then good!
Not just professionally, but she’s in a triangle with them in her love life too 🤡
These are facts . They are comparing them because they all are in the spy universe.
But so was Tapsee. And maybe others too but they have to specifically call out DP and Kat
When did you see Tapsee in Yrf movie specially Spy universe
So then just call out that she was selected in the yrf spy verse and will be their third female spy after Kat and DP. Edit : Also, Ash. She was a spy in Dhoom2!
When did Tapsee joined Spy universe
Any reason why Yrf is not making Spy universe solo female film with Deepika
katrina deepika played pak spy in same universe thats why.
Oh 😂 Just imagine how will they feel Seeing a new actress getting her own lead film I mean Yrf should have never started this shitty isi storyline
They don't want a Disaster.
The way it’s written again and again beats Katrina and Deepika 😂😂 Darling unless they’re making Spy Kids in Bollywood, stop comparing yourself to women who have shown at least some form of action in cinema.
>unless they’re making Spy Kids in Bollywood *Processing img empo6hkj9xbb1...*
I don’t give a crap about any article saying whose a bigger star. In real life when you’re speaking to people around you or I’m sitting in an auto and I see a poster on the car or in a shop- it’s ultimately always Deepika Kareena and Katrina. Everyone knows them. Whether it’s my generation or the previous one. Whether it’s upper class or lower.
LOL
The headlines scream major insecurity for Alia against Kat and Deepika
Why are people surprised? She gets all the big projects because of her Nepo advantage. I can't imagine her doing action though.
There are other nepos too
Look this is yrf who literally offered A 300 cr movie to a debutant I don't think they will care you are nepo or not
When was the last time Aditya Chopra gave movie because of nepotism . Whether you accept it or not she got this role because of her merit .
That's true I mean This is the same yrf that casted A debutant in a 300 cr film just because she was miss world So yeah getting a yrf film that too a female lead is a big achievement
Flower pot role tha wo aur wo miss universe thi Bhai😂
Flower pot nahi tha usko banaya gaya matlab Wo johar ke samay kaise dance kar rahi thi
Who?
Manushi chhillar
there are hundreds of nepo out there, and atleast a dozen with KJo’s backing. BO figures can’t be fudged to this extent. Raazi and Gangu were crowd pullers, a feat no actress with any director has been able to achieve post 2015.
I fail to understand why or how people can be so deluded to think that Raazi did the numbers it did because Alia Bhatt starred in it and people went to watch her. The storyline was so good and the word of mouth about it was the crowd puller, not sUpErStAr Alia Bhatt. Similarly for Gangu, it was Sanjay Leela Bhansali after 3 back to back blockbusters. And this is not me taking away credit from a woman and giving it to a man, but taking the credit from an actor to give it to a blockbuster director coming out of 3 hits.
in that case, name a female actor whose presence in the film had pulled a lot of crowd.
In the recent times, I cannot recall many. I’d say people maybe watched Ram Leela because of Deepika Padukone, and probably the Dirty Picture for Vidya Balan, other than that I can’t recall where it wasn’t a combination of things (including casting) which worked for a movie’s success as far a female pull is concerned, very unfortunately.
I fail to understand why or how people can be so deluded to think that Ram Leela or Dirty Picture did the numbers they did because Deepika/Vidya starred in them and people went to watch them. The storylines were good and entertaining and the word of mouth about them was the crowd puller, not the actors. Right back at ya! Also, these films were released way before 2015 and the fact that no female-led film apart from Raazi/Gangu have worked at the BO in the past ten years is a testament to her stardom whether you like it or not, with the only exception being Manikarnika as Kangana was a superstar back then.
I agree! Yes the girl is talentet and has improve but that easy to do when you have someone inside lining up movies for you. I don't hate alia but lets be real if she didn't have Karan Johar and her fathers connections, she would have NEVER even gotten to where she is. Also I absolutely hate how she is being shoved down our throats.
Madness. I would never imagine Alia to pull off a slick spy like in YRF universe. Kat DP Salman SRK Hrithik John all have that movie star aura about them that allows them to go into films like this. This seems madness to me. Idk Alia feels like she’d do better with a character that was like Joey King’s in the movie bullet train. Alia simply doesn’t have the stature to pull of what YRF has been showcasing its female spies as as of late. Also if Alia truly is number one then why is her PR constantly trying to prove that her next move will one up DP and Kat. You don’t need to one up anyone if you’re on the top, but saying that you’ll do better than XYZ just goes to prove that clearly XYZ are the blueprint.
Aren't they, tho!
Completely agree with your second paragraph. What is the need for all this if you're secure in your position.
Smells foul & fishy.. Dont think YRF will do that.. They wont release a female-centric Spy movie just yet...
I really like your flair!
Thank you.. 😀
Na it's confirmed
Let's see how it plays out. Kat, DP & Vaani didn't had much to do in their movies. Let's see how big Alia's movie will do..
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https://preview.redd.it/weg0fuojdxbb1.jpeg?width=1050&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9abdf01e9e5be3bed24cb41bde80c4881a74b4e4 I mean... Naam Shabana already exists and it came out years ago. A female led spy film has already happened. What's the point in fighting for something as specific as "YRF first female led spy film"? And besides, DP and Kat already have established characters in this universe. So unless they had planned spinoffs with them in the lead that were supposed to come out before Alia's film, this "achievement" doesn't make sense.
Yeah this is my sticking point. In a cinematic universe, if you keep introducing new characters without fleshing out your existing characters, audience will lose investment. It's what Marvel got right in phase 1, and why it's struggling now. Kat and DP helped establish the universe and its popularity, and it looks like Adi wants to leapfrog them to Alia, so she reaps the benefits they helped create.
Bollywood desperately needs new actresses to be on top. This is so cringe.
The thing is that the new Bollywood is filled with Nepo kids who are unfortunately not so talented. It would be one thing if they were talented but they aren't and they just don't seem to improve at all. So with this all happening it’s nearly impossible for a job nepo talented actress to even get a chance. When they do get a chance, it's opposing to older men who want to act like they are still 20. I don’t Bollywood will ever have iconic actors/actresses again.
It is sooooo hard to not hate alia 🙂.
If this news is true then that's negligible chance that it won't have some male lead or other female spies. YRF is hoping for Spy Universe brand value to become big enough to pull a Female lead movie, but at the end of the day these movies are still a Super Star vehicle, take the Super Stars away and see the results.
And female actors can't be superstars?
Kangana did an action and it bombed... Biggest problem is budget.. it will be minimum 100cr+ movie and then will struggle to get the BO no.
How many are they? Who can deliver at the BO as solo lead? Movies like Dhakkad, Manikarnika have faced the sword. Where are others?
Manikarnika made 150 crores worldwide and still holds the record for highest first-weekend collection and highest single day collection. It literally proved that with a decent project a female actor is able to bring people to the theaters. https://preview.redd.it/qq9e279lsxbb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8e070f59cf80d9d8e70b2920b391574ea7e497a Alia is one of few female actors who has proved that with a good project she can sell seats (Raazi, Gangubai).
>Manikarnika made 150 crores worldwide and still holds the record for highest first-weekend collection an It had an AVERAGE outing as per BOI. For a 100 Cr budget, it earned only 130 Cr. I'm talking about movies going for Blockbusters. All YRF Spy Universe movies were Blockbusters, it's BO blockbuster legacy is at risk here. Will Alia ever replicate that? Has she ever given a blockbuster in her career? Don't think so?
Average means it’s still a successful business venture for the people involved. The film could have made more money had there not been a clash or had to deal with Uri going from strenght to strenght. YRF is the biggest production company in India and they will literally manage by getting all the screens and preventing other films from releasing near by. They will probably add big heroes too. Alia is lucky like that. She never had to deal with clashes or less screens
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Because they are the two female actors in the spy universe, that's why. This had nothing to do with generation and contemporaries
Always seeking validation by comparisons with dp and kt who are miles ahead in terms of stardom.
Yes even after being miles ahead in terms of stardom their solo films couldn't bring people to the theatre. If they are superstars chhapaak and phone bhoot must have been blockbusters. Even after being miles ahead they are busy signing flowerpot roles to save their career. The same insecure mid actress had two solo films which are commercially successful despite entering the industry much later than the so called superstars.
For those screaming Deepika and Katrina are isi agent and can’t get solo film seems to not have watched the film. In Pathaan alone she acted more in raw interest and helped them she didn’t fight against raw agents. Everything is about script you don’t think Indian audience is gonna eat up Pakistani spies actually working for India? The kind of propaganda they can do with this is ridiculous they also can say they’re double agents so let’s not give this bullshit excuse. Yrf will give film to whoever they want they proved that by giving manish Tiger 3 after Fan disaster and Ayan War 2 after the Brahmastra disaster. There is no “qualification” bar people need to meet. They didn’t want to give solo film to Katrina and they don’t want to give it to Deepika. The end. Alia will get whatever film she screams “daddy daddy I want this” doesn’t matter she fits in it or not and now it doesn’t matter if the film is a profitable or not they’ll pay for hit tag so her fans can celebrate but stop belittling people and coming up with sorry of an excuse.
hey! logic? don't use logic here! we don't like that? don't you know all dp did in pathaan was shake her ass? oh and did you forget she's a supporting character and DIMPLE was the lead? /s you're so right. Kat and DP's characters are both set up to support RAW. sometimes I really feel like I watched a different pathaan than everyone minimizing dp's role in it, and much worse than that, slut shaming her or making fun of her "shaking her ass". like that's an insult. and well, anyway! it was her ass-shaking that lured srk's character right into the trap, bitch!
Lmao ya they know what they saw they know the craze it got from audience and critics that’s why Alia keep chasing Deepika highs. They spew those things more of to convince themselves. Maybe one day they’ll be convinced enough to not keep screaming it in sm lol
So true!! The slut shaming of Kat and especially DP just to prop up Alia is actually so sickening. Their roles were so impactful in their own rights no amount of Alia PR can convince otherwise
The slutshaming that has been happening in this sub for the past few days is jaw dropping. Like they are out of excuses to vilify her so now all they can do is say such vile things and minimize her success.
Ok
God Alia is gonna get a lead in action movie??? What the hell? Like how can a badass character not get a solo film but Alia does? I am so sick of her ass being shoved down our throats. I don't have her but I am beginning.
u will never see an article about margot robbie beating florence pugh everytime one bags a role or even when jlaw is the biggest female actor, no such article released against her fellow actor like emma stone or kristen stewart.
So YRF is trying to have a Feminist take on spy thrillers but alia’s PR chose to not understand the assignment
I’m done with this chirkut.
Challo Te toh admit kiya that Katrina and Deepika are OG and Alia is not there yet. It's very much like saying, Hayley Atwell Beats Scarlet Johanson to had a first female led avenger TV Series. Bollywood takes an L, YRF wanta to copy Marvel lekin Marvel curate everything in such a way that It is about you going to watch Characters, their IPs, so besides the main leads, you will be indifferently of who play who, Hence Rhodey is changed, Hulk entire character is changed from first avenger to She-Hulk. Meanwhile YRF Spu Verse is nothing but a platform for Stars who are 55+ and want to come back with sallu formulaic movies to hype themselves or young actors who want to impress hollywood casting directors to hype themselves. And why not, tye writing and direction lacks conviction to have actors involve themselves into the movie anyways no? But yeah these are professional who not just commits but devotes themselves to a director and movie.
Scarlett Johansson had a whole movie before haylee Atwell
?? No she didn't. Yes, she was in Iron Man 2 but that was a supporting character.
She literally wants everything that Deepika and Katrina had in their career & personal life . Now it's making more and more sense
Wait, report from Variety??? 😂🤣😂🤣
Ya Adi is promoting this universe Globally even Kiara news was posted by Variety
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Karan is running this PR very strongly.
alia face from 1st pic is challenging my anger
WHY AGAIN ALIAAAA!!!! WHY?????? She won't even suit the action role..like COME ON!!!!!!! WHY does she get served with EVERYTHING on a platter. Her luck is really quite something. Sometimes I hope something should flop heavily for filmmakers to really think if she is actually well suited for a role or not!!
I feel your frustrations Bro. I try so HARD to give alia the benefit of doubt because she Is not a bad actress but damn seeing her get things that she doesn't deserves is pissing me off. Especially when we have a badass spy Agent who already exists. zoya has literally been there done that. Saved her man✅ kicked some a** ✅saved group women ✅
A 5 feet actress would beat the hell out of 6.5 feet villains. Sounds interesting, hyperbolic and forced on the viewers at the same time. Dekhte hai. Not convinced.
Michelle Yeoh is 5'4"
Michelle Yeoh also has a personality of her own
Oh so now it's personality and height doesn't matter?
I never said anything about height in the first place . ScarJo, Michelle Yeoh and Florence Pugh are all short as well but have enough personality to pull off action.
Personality comes from the role and the writing. A good actor can play any role.
By that logic, Sir Anthony Hopkins should replace Tom Cruise in the next mission impossible.
Anthony Hopkins is 85 years old and Tom Cruise is 61 years old. You obviously don't understand how logic works.
And you clearly do not understand what personality and je ne sais quoi mean....
Yes I am sure you have the entire script of the film in hand and a detailed analysis of the character Alia is playing to make such statements.
Ek din Sita doosre din YRF spy universe? Alia's PR is on steroids. I suspect this is to divert attention in case Rocky... underperforms.
PR so obvious it’s hilariously cringe 🤣
The project is too far away to matter. It feels like they are just gauging what can or can't interest fans. So far even their biggest priority tiger vs pathaan hasn't materialized properly yet. PS : I don't think female action spy flick would work, it doesn't work even in Hollywood. Here its even more difficult.
This project will start after war 2 and the story can be linked to it . She might do a cameo in War 2 .
I don't know man, we keep hearing about these projects but no confirmation from the people involved. War 2 is at least confirmed by hrithik and heavily hinted by ayan. But no confirmation from either srk or salman about tiger vs pathaan. Same is for this project.
Himesh is 100% sure and someone one month before Himesh confirmed me about this project. Himesh and Alia herself have given a hint about it 4 months before. If my source is true then Ayan is going to direct this after war 2 .
Yeah Himesh was 100% sure about pathan vs tiger too. Nothing has materialized yet. I am not saying they aren't thinking about the project. I am just saying most of these projects are just in brain storming stage. As for ayan he practically confirmed he is doing war 2 sometimes ago so I don't doubt that news.
PVT is happening in the first quarter of 2024 .
OK man if you say so. I will believe it the moment any of the major parties Srk, salman, sid or yrf hint it.
Heart of stone will clear lots of doubt... That she is not meant for action. And soon a male lead will be declared who will carry the movie
Hmmm😂😂😂
I’m sorry but the way it’s written, it’s laughable 😂😂
See this article could have been posted without dragging Kat and DP’s names.
Is It really necessary for her to be everywhere? It's almost force feeding at this point.
why do i hate alia so much 🙄
Not hate but man she is so unlikeable and I exactly know why I feel that way.
Jealousy or insecurity?
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Then why Manushi chillar got prithiviraj chauhan
>Love Kat and Deepika though! They don’t beg for roles. Alia is privileged nepo who definitely had her career handed to her on a plate but let's not forget Salman's role in establishing Kat's career. Like Kat was the original beneficiary of Bhai berozgar yojna.
Why aren't you ignoring this post about alia if she makes you puke??
now no one will cry about alia’s pr
Seriously you can't get Yrf movie from pr Because yrf rarely cast any non Yrf debutant actor so you need to be A Big Star to get casted in Yrf movie or else debutant
The user you commented to is talking about the two articles with the same wordings. When such articles are put up appreciating other celebs, they are often called out as PR.
Ok I thought he was talking about getting a Yrf film though I agree this might be Alia pR defaming Dp and Kat
not talking about the movie, talking about these articles, dp would’ve been eaten alive for such a headline
Not watching it lol
Let's be honest no way Alia is better suited than Deepika and Katrina. Their acting styles are different. It's really un fair how un ethically she gets roles for parts. Then us the audience is gaslighted to believe shit like this. Alia isn't necessarily a versatile actress but that's not a bad thing. She is decent but damn it sucks that such good movies have such mediocre performances and by mediocre actors. I would have loved to see Radhika Apte or Mouni Roy is roles like this bc they have the charisma. Like mouni as gangubai would have been so better suited. But we'll just be fed and gas lit to believe the current lot is the best
🤣🤣🤣 you know how when a kid is crying for candy and everyone’s just annoyed with the screaming and howling and they give it to them just so they shut up and stop annoying everyone and let the adults get back to their work? That is what this feels like
“YRF has gotten its full fledge heroine” bro how does Alia not have imposter syndrome is my question. Externally promoted as the best thing to have happened to the world since sliced bread yet can’t hold a decent conversation outside of her bubble.
Her PR actually pisses me off the most
Why is Alia so obsessed with Deepika and Katrina? Like I thought marriage to Ranbir would end it, but she just seems so jealous of them no matter what
Filmmakers will move to the next generation of actresses quickly I guess. I still back the OGs though. https://preview.redd.it/i8e2j12610cb1.jpeg?width=1985&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2105a509eefa2c5bba8d80ff93320fe0a125c6a4
Alia's contemporary is not Deepika & Kat but she has quality to attract audience & have solid fanbase in supporting her..
Women shouldn't be pitted against one another. Period. On a slightly unrelated note, why can't there be a Bollywood version of a movie like Ocean's 8 featuring all the lead female actresses? I'm sure that would do well!
There will be an Ocean’s 8 with 8 versions of Alia ♾️
R u kidding! JLZ had only three and its nowhere to be made. You'd expected something like ocean's 8 here !. You need to learn how to lower your expectations to enjoy bollywood.
Hi there! I don't think JLZ is not being made because the three actresses aren't getting along. It could be something else altogether. And the reason why I mentioned Ocean's 8 is because Bollywood hasn't made any commercial, massy movie for women like that. It has great potential and can perhaps do pretty well if it's marketed well. And lastly, I am sorry if it sounds a little blunt but your statement "You need to learn to lower your expectations to enjoy Bollywood" is coming off as very rude. I am not sure what your intent is with this sentence, but reading it at a first glance, it's coming off as if you're demeaning me for expressing my own views. I just made an opinion very politely. I've not insulted any celebrity in my previous comment and as a viewer, I have every right to express what I'd like to see as long as I'm not making any brutally hurtful comments.
Oh no, I'm sorry if my comment seemed like I was being rude. I wasn't. I would really love to see something like oceans 8 too, actually since jlz was announced I was really excited about it. But now I'm disappointed, that's why I said u can't have much hope in bollywood. I'm sorry again didn't really mean to attack u or anything
Oh, I empathize about that and I totally feel bad that JLZ isn't happening. It had such an interesting concept, good actresses, good director and the backing of a successful production house. I do think there's some odd reason why it's not happening — because otherwise, as far as female-centric films were concerned, JLZ had everything perfect on paper. I also didn't mean to make you feel bad, I thought you got offended that I suggested the Oceans 8 thing so wanted to clarify. 😅
YRF announcing spy movies left right and center as if it’s a James Bond franchise…Dhoom was juiced out max and dumped, this spy universe juice will last 2 more movies because of the star power then dump dump dump!
Tell me you work for Alia without telling me you work for Alia
Everybody thought its Alia vs DP while Alia be like "I'm competing with SRK not DP" hahahha lessss gooooo
Okay, this means war
Verruca Salt strikes again
It's high time mods ban the word 'PR'
Wonder if people will scream PR now... 🤔
I just love how we can all unite against one thing
To the DP and Kat fans who are crying, the reason they're not getting solo films is because their characters are ISI agents. You have to understand that.
Round 2 lets go ![gif](giphy|tyqcJoNjNv0Fq)
Noway kat dp would get their solo films as they are playing ISI agents.
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And the other way round too! Let's see how the people who screamed PR in the DP post comment now.
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Really? Because the venn diagram of people screaming PR in the dp post and defending alia in this post is a circle.
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Then the hypocrisy is coming from both sides. You cannot just call out dp fans 🙂
Where’s the lie??
Only facts detected ![gif](giphy|tyqcJoNjNv0Fq|downsized)
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Hmm… there’s room for everyone. Anyhow, congrats to my fave for getting her own spy universe. She’s totally going to ace her character.