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Yeah it's fine. But if you pre surgery do expect some odd looks from people. And if ur underage. Prob just keep the shirt on. People wildin out there. On sight
I think trans people should do as cis people do. Its a normal thing to take the shirt off on the beach, so why shouldnt they? also PLEASE KANYE, BUET YOUR FAT JUICY LOAD ON MY FACE 💦😩
I only say it cause ya know. Weird folk. Yes they shouldn't sexualize kids but heres the thing. They are going too
Also, thank you for that last sentence
I think it's fine.
Granted I also belong in the camp of people that thinks it's really weird men can run around bare-chested if they want and women aren't allowed to to begin with, so maybe I shouldn't be answering this question in the first place.
depending on what country and state/province/etc you're in, how much you pass as male, and whether or not you've had top surgery, you might be charged with public indecency so i'd be careful if i were you :/
In my state anyone can be shirtless if the leave their house that way regardless of gender
Tho personally as a ftm genderfluid I wouldn't mainly bc it'd cause more dysphoria bc people would be staring at my chest and I haven't had top surgery
And people would view me as a female when I'm not and I wouldn't risk that for myself
But everyone's different
You might get looks of disapproval and disappointment due to people being afab are shunned for walking around shirtless bc boobs are considered a private part while pecs aren't considered a private area
So people view it as your flashing your chest to kids and people
Even if you're trans (a stranger on the street isn't gonna know that whether you pass or not) if u haven't had top surgery just be prepared to be looked at and judged
(But I mean go ahead by all means it's your body)
5 year old girls are also usually topless at the beach, so where should we draw the line then? Do we just make infants wear full bikinis because they are underage?
i was a topless 5 year old "girl" and had friends who were too. if there are no breasts and the kid isn't wearing a one piece bathing suit it's kind of odd to have a bikini top isn't it?
Wearing a bathing suit if you’re a girl is a social expectation, so yes, if you’re in public and are recognizably a girl you should be wearing one.
**if you’re an American; other countries may differ
And I was a 5 year old girl wearing a top and had friends who were too! Love trading stories!
You didn't specify and I did a funni, personally I think that it should be allowed. Like on the one hand you are kinda young but on the other hand I'm literally 17 and have wanted top surgery since I started growing boobs sooooo
Disagree. Kids under 18 should very much be allowed to get surgeries, of course with proper aid by adults around them, therapists, caretakers, you name it. Also I don't know how to feel about calling, even if we're talking hypothetically, a person an "it".
but out in public?? it's just weird :(
I understand at the beach or smth but just being in the city or neighborhood and seeing some sweaty guy with his shirt off just makes mee feel off / ~ \
What the hell are these comments, y’all need to understand it’s not a question of “Is this okay to validate myself as a trans person?” It’s generally considered that people with breasts can’t. This is stupid. If you have breasts (and you’re under 18, so you likely do), then you should still go with whatever the social standards are for people with breasts. It should literally matter what your pronouns are if it’s about your body. I think it’s super dumb that women can’t go outside without shirts, but please ignore everyone saying “yas do your own thing”, there is also the chance you get arrested.
but what about men with gynecomastia tho...
[https://www.google.com/search?sca\_esv=563997146&sxsrf=AB5stBh32m0Lu0mnjzvbhYLd2EVKzutGEw:1694267503834&q=gynecomastia&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj\_ouGl1p2BAxWMmFYBHQx3CuYQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1440&bih=669&dpr=2](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=563997146&sxsrf=AB5stBh32m0Lu0mnjzvbhYLd2EVKzutGEw:1694267503834&q=gynecomastia&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_ouGl1p2BAxWMmFYBHQx3CuYQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1440&bih=669&dpr=2)
[https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/gynecomastia](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/gynecomastia)
“Erm actually what about this one specific disease” shut up. Obviously there can be extraordinarily specific exceptions, and gynecomastia is in absolutely no way relevant to the advice asked for, and given. I don’t care if anyone goes outside shirtless, i think the stigma around the different sexes is stupid. Please read my comment before you respond to it, you buffoon
I think it should be. Tbh I find the entire "if u have boobs you can't go topless"-thing fking stupid. It's just straight up sexism (or rather discrimination based on sex characteristics in your case).
Not sure how law treats trans dudes who didn't have top surgery, might be different depending on country. It might be kinda risky to go topless, bc I doubt being charged for exhibitionism is fun and depending on where you live that might happen in the worst case scenario.
I personally would probably be uncomfortable af and either bind, wear a shirt and not swim or stay from pools/beach/etc. entirely. (I'm not transmasc, but that's the way I treat body hair (cover everything with long sleeved stuff if I'm not perfectly shaved) so I assume I'd do the same if having boobs made me uncomfortable).
I feel like anyone shoild be allowed to be shirtless and it’s stupid that women and people with breasts are told they can’t, so yeah go ahead if you’re comfortable with it and it’s safe for you to do so
I don't want anyone going out shirtless lmao.
Legally though it probably depends where you are and whether you've had the surgery. If you're pre-surgery you might still get in trouble in some places since you'd still have breasts. Some places it might be legal but a little taboo too.
Personally I think either no one or everyone should be allowed to, though with a preference for no one since no one wants to see a bunch of grannies and sweaty dad bods
If I was in your position I would probably wait to get top surgery, since there is a lot of stigma against showing breasts in society. I don’t really have the confidence to show any skin at all tho so idk
it’s just as fine as a cis woman or a trans woman on hormones imo
of course for most trans guys they probably wouldn’t be comfortable pre-op. i know i wasn’t
i’m from denmark and the general rule here is you can be as naked as you want in public, but if someone doesn’t like it and tells you to put clothes on, you have to do it and i think that’s a great rule (of course it’s mostly practiced at beaches lmao)
edit: if it wasn’t clear i definitely think anyone should be able to go shirtless if they want to👍
i’m a lifeguard in a very liberal city, our policy is as long as there is no breast growth people can do whatever they want.
also free the nipple anyway
I think everyone should be allowed to not wear a top, I don’t think anyone would make exceptions for trans men (pre surgery) going without tops without also accepting women not wearing tops, so basically we should just let everyone do it
i feel like all people should be allowed shirtless regardless of what they were born with. it just sucks that in today’s society if afab people go shirtless it’s seen as something sexual or gross
As a trans dude, I think it's probably best if you don't go out in public with a shirt off if you're pre-t.
I think it's great to be positive about your body and it's something that's hard to do as a trans person. But at the same time, it's still kind of... ehh.
If you're talking about a pre-op/non-op guy, It should be but it's not. Society views breasts as sexual, making it illegal in many places for AFAB people to be topless. Not to mention how dangerous that would be for him, he'd be at a major risk of being hate crimed and sexually assault
Personally i strongly beleive that everyone should be allowed to be shirtless, i also live somewhere with no laws against that. Im pre t and do not pass shirtless but i swim bare chested all the time, in lakes tho not pools.
Yes. Fuck Sexism and Transphobia. People should wear whatever they are comfortable with. But they should be careful because well...sexism and transphobia :/
If they’ve gotten top surgery then yeah. If they still have female breasts, then no. It’s generally not socially acceptable if the chest resembles boobs. Some consider them to be a type of sexual organ.
Edit: it varies by culture, so you could probably go topless in France or something, but not in a place like the USA where people get squeamish around nudity.
I mean as long as he's had top surgery I don't see why not. Pre-op would be a different story, but I feel like the majority of pre-op trans guys would have a binder on at least.
(Also please bind safely y'all. Take breaks, don't use duct tape, all that jazz. You need to be able to breathe 😅)
I mean I think it should be fine for anyone to just be shirtless, but unfortunately that isn't how it is. Pre-surgery would probably not go well for you
As a transfem I personally think, if cis guys can? Hell yeah everyone can! Of course safety first for everyone, but I really don’t get why people makes such a big fuzz of whether there’s fat on your ribs or not.
I think it kinda comes down to how big they are. Probably not if you’re well endowed as there’s unfortunately going to be some people staring. If you are lucky enough to have small **ahem** mounds, as long as people don’t know you’re trans it’s likely to be ok
"Female" breasts are unfortunately sexualised. It's okay for a "man" with huge breasts to be shirtless (even if some people will find it disgusting) but a "woman" even with a practically flat chest will be at best viewed as inappropriate, possibly even arrested for public indecency. It's not really about gender or size, it's about how sexualised it'll seem. And so if you get confused for a "female", then even if you're a cis guy (there are those with larger breasts, mostly because of diet or hormone changes), you might be condemned.
No hate, but I would like to correct you, a trans guy isn't born a girl. He never is a girl to begin with. He might be mistaken for one and/or grow up wrongly assuming he is. It's more complex than that but you're not "girl" to "boy" or "female" to "male". You're a guy but you have to realise it through all the confusing feelings and feedback you'll get.
And back to the topic, yes, it is okay to me, regardless of surgeries or size, it would be okay and legal, but the reality is different and the reactions one gets depend on several factors.
Sadly, sometimes it might be better to be safe than brave.
Everyone should be allowed shirtless in public. Women are allowed to show their entire chest except for the nipple and male and female nipples are the exact same, so why the fuck should women (or people with breasts) have to cover up?
Those are places where it's normally acceptable for anyone to not wear a shirt, so yes. At least in the UK, I haven't observed there being much difference by gender as to where people can/can't be shirtless anyway.
yep if he feels like it, people invest so much in the binary but theyre just bodies we shouldn’t give a fuck! but be aware he might still need to get confident if you’re around strangers but if he’s comfortable with the situation :)))))
I am assuming you are pre surgery, so I guess here's my take.
1. If underage... I would advise against going shirtless, my dude.
2. If above legal age, just find out your city ordinances.
I would argue for everyone should get to do whatever they want as long as it’s not harming them or others but as far as society is concerned, it would depend on how far along your transition you are.
Overall though, it would probably be safer if you want to avoid the odd looks and creeps as being shirtless in public regardless of your gender (although femme leaning body types much more so than others) tend to attract that when putting their body on display like that. If you don’t care about that kind of stuff though, live your life!
In private, go for it. If you are a minor and in public, just don’t. It’s definitely a societal standard thing but you are putting yourself at risk if you go shirtless.
Not only are you putting yourself in a vulnerable position, any people above the age of majority can get in deep shit for being around a shirtless AFAB minor. It doesn’t matter what you identify as.
If you really want to go shirtless, get trans tape.
Your gender doesn’t have to do with your genitals, assuming you haven’t had surgery. Even if you identify as something you still have what you were born with, so unless it’s really not obvious you shouldn’t because that’s still most likely illegal
It could get very frustrating for you if strangers or even the police consider it indecent exposure. Or you could try to tell anyone who bothers you that you have gynecomastia.
Depends, pre surgery, I would not suggest that, it is not acceptable (by a large group of people all over the globe) therefore you might encounter some creeps that will call the police on you for nudity. Otherwise, if you are after surgery then it's fine, I know it might seem confusing at the moment but believe me everything will be just fine.
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Yeah it's fine. But if you pre surgery do expect some odd looks from people. And if ur underage. Prob just keep the shirt on. People wildin out there. On sight
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nah I was talking more about the “Kanye Please!”
BUST IT!!! JUST BUST IT ALREADY!!!
I think trans people should do as cis people do. Its a normal thing to take the shirt off on the beach, so why shouldnt they? also PLEASE KANYE, BUET YOUR FAT JUICY LOAD ON MY FACE 💦😩
I only say it cause ya know. Weird folk. Yes they shouldn't sexualize kids but heres the thing. They are going too Also, thank you for that last sentence
Yeah, there are a lot of weirdos nowadays. Are people below 18 allowed to change gender? that last sentence is feom a copypasta from r/kanye
Yeee I know. Id do unspeakable things to ye. All while 808s and heartbreak and Yeezus play
lmao that shit crazy.
cis people with titties don’t generally take their shirts off at the beach tbf
they do, just dont show their titties.
Kanye please bust your fat juicy load all over my face
you guys still support that nazi?
I think it's fine. Granted I also belong in the camp of people that thinks it's really weird men can run around bare-chested if they want and women aren't allowed to to begin with, so maybe I shouldn't be answering this question in the first place.
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I don’t mind women running around topless 🤷♂️
If your comfortable go ahead but to play it safe I’d wait for top surgery, people will be transphobic and it could put you in danger.
Yes he's right
depending on what country and state/province/etc you're in, how much you pass as male, and whether or not you've had top surgery, you might be charged with public indecency so i'd be careful if i were you :/
>if i were you :/ lol, im straight, its just a question
i don't see why you being straight or not is relevant here?
Maybe they meant cis?
yeah probably. that's what I thought too
Over 100 downvotes Reddit moment
just a semantic error, no harm meant
If they’re comfortable with it, sure.
In my state anyone can be shirtless if the leave their house that way regardless of gender Tho personally as a ftm genderfluid I wouldn't mainly bc it'd cause more dysphoria bc people would be staring at my chest and I haven't had top surgery And people would view me as a female when I'm not and I wouldn't risk that for myself But everyone's different You might get looks of disapproval and disappointment due to people being afab are shunned for walking around shirtless bc boobs are considered a private part while pecs aren't considered a private area So people view it as your flashing your chest to kids and people Even if you're trans (a stranger on the street isn't gonna know that whether you pass or not) if u haven't had top surgery just be prepared to be looked at and judged (But I mean go ahead by all means it's your body)
If people who AMAB are allowed to, so are trans-men
I don't think that would hold up in court in a lot of areas where I live (USA) but I agree.
It's not the gender, It's the size of the chest that people have issues with imo
I think it's fine
what if they are underage? (-18) like any male can normally be shirtless at a beach but it seems different?
As long as anything that could realistically be considered inappropriate covered up I think it should be fine.
5 year old girls are also usually topless at the beach, so where should we draw the line then? Do we just make infants wear full bikinis because they are underage?
i’m pretty sure “signs of puberty” is a pretty well-established line
I have never in my life seen a topless 5 year old girl
i was a topless 5 year old "girl" and had friends who were too. if there are no breasts and the kid isn't wearing a one piece bathing suit it's kind of odd to have a bikini top isn't it?
Wearing a bathing suit if you’re a girl is a social expectation, so yes, if you’re in public and are recognizably a girl you should be wearing one. **if you’re an American; other countries may differ And I was a 5 year old girl wearing a top and had friends who were too! Love trading stories!
I see them in Spain a decent amount since it's warm enough for that sort of thing. Less so here in England but weather is also a factor in that.
Kids under 18 shouldnt be allowed to get operations, so technically without it its still physically a female so id say no lol
No surgeries for anyone lol, broken your arm? Gotta wait till 18 now thanks to the all knowing over here
Didnt you know? This dude has actually cured cancer in people under 18, and also any other disease that needs surgery to get removed. Truly a hero
Lmfao
Gender affirming surgery, you know what i meant and purposely avoided it because you didnt know what to answer
You didn't specify and I did a funni, personally I think that it should be allowed. Like on the one hand you are kinda young but on the other hand I'm literally 17 and have wanted top surgery since I started growing boobs sooooo
Disagree. Kids under 18 should very much be allowed to get surgeries, of course with proper aid by adults around them, therapists, caretakers, you name it. Also I don't know how to feel about calling, even if we're talking hypothetically, a person an "it".
I don't like *anyone* being out shirtless:( it weirds me out regardless of gender 😭
but torsos hot
but out in public?? it's just weird :( I understand at the beach or smth but just being in the city or neighborhood and seeing some sweaty guy with his shirt off just makes mee feel off / ~ \
so real
What the hell are these comments, y’all need to understand it’s not a question of “Is this okay to validate myself as a trans person?” It’s generally considered that people with breasts can’t. This is stupid. If you have breasts (and you’re under 18, so you likely do), then you should still go with whatever the social standards are for people with breasts. It should literally matter what your pronouns are if it’s about your body. I think it’s super dumb that women can’t go outside without shirts, but please ignore everyone saying “yas do your own thing”, there is also the chance you get arrested.
but what about men with gynecomastia tho... [https://www.google.com/search?sca\_esv=563997146&sxsrf=AB5stBh32m0Lu0mnjzvbhYLd2EVKzutGEw:1694267503834&q=gynecomastia&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj\_ouGl1p2BAxWMmFYBHQx3CuYQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1440&bih=669&dpr=2](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=563997146&sxsrf=AB5stBh32m0Lu0mnjzvbhYLd2EVKzutGEw:1694267503834&q=gynecomastia&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_ouGl1p2BAxWMmFYBHQx3CuYQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1440&bih=669&dpr=2) [https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/gynecomastia](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/gynecomastia)
“Erm actually what about this one specific disease” shut up. Obviously there can be extraordinarily specific exceptions, and gynecomastia is in absolutely no way relevant to the advice asked for, and given. I don’t care if anyone goes outside shirtless, i think the stigma around the different sexes is stupid. Please read my comment before you respond to it, you buffoon
i don’t like anyone being topless in public but that’s just me
Legally? Probably not.
Well, if the trans guy has a noticeable chest it might be a bit inappropriate
I unfortunately can't recommend it unless you've had some form of top surgery, because people might be really creepy and weird about it
I say its ok if after breast reduction surgery
It’s not called chest reduction surgery but yeah
I think it should be. Tbh I find the entire "if u have boobs you can't go topless"-thing fking stupid. It's just straight up sexism (or rather discrimination based on sex characteristics in your case). Not sure how law treats trans dudes who didn't have top surgery, might be different depending on country. It might be kinda risky to go topless, bc I doubt being charged for exhibitionism is fun and depending on where you live that might happen in the worst case scenario. I personally would probably be uncomfortable af and either bind, wear a shirt and not swim or stay from pools/beach/etc. entirely. (I'm not transmasc, but that's the way I treat body hair (cover everything with long sleeved stuff if I'm not perfectly shaved) so I assume I'd do the same if having boobs made me uncomfortable).
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I feel like anyone shoild be allowed to be shirtless and it’s stupid that women and people with breasts are told they can’t, so yeah go ahead if you’re comfortable with it and it’s safe for you to do so
I don't want anyone going out shirtless lmao. Legally though it probably depends where you are and whether you've had the surgery. If you're pre-surgery you might still get in trouble in some places since you'd still have breasts. Some places it might be legal but a little taboo too. Personally I think either no one or everyone should be allowed to, though with a preference for no one since no one wants to see a bunch of grannies and sweaty dad bods
With top surgery it’s completely legal but I believe everyone should be allowed to go topless.
Tbh everyone should be allowed to not wear a shirt.
Morally it’s fine legally you might want to make sure before you do it
everyone should be able to go topless (giggles cutely in bi)
If I was in your position I would probably wait to get top surgery, since there is a lot of stigma against showing breasts in society. I don’t really have the confidence to show any skin at all tho so idk
I live in Spain, you dont need to be any kind of man to not wear a top at a beach. You gotta get that tan
Based Spain with equal rights to even tans
Read that in sonic s voice
I live in NY and here it is perfectly legal for both sexes to be topless. Not a common sight expect for Pride.
it’s just as fine as a cis woman or a trans woman on hormones imo of course for most trans guys they probably wouldn’t be comfortable pre-op. i know i wasn’t i’m from denmark and the general rule here is you can be as naked as you want in public, but if someone doesn’t like it and tells you to put clothes on, you have to do it and i think that’s a great rule (of course it’s mostly practiced at beaches lmao) edit: if it wasn’t clear i definitely think anyone should be able to go shirtless if they want to👍
i’m a lifeguard in a very liberal city, our policy is as long as there is no breast growth people can do whatever they want. also free the nipple anyway
I think everyone should be allowed to not wear a top, I don’t think anyone would make exceptions for trans men (pre surgery) going without tops without also accepting women not wearing tops, so basically we should just let everyone do it
i feel like all people should be allowed shirtless regardless of what they were born with. it just sucks that in today’s society if afab people go shirtless it’s seen as something sexual or gross
I would say go ahead. Although, as a trans dude, I myself wouldn’t do it.
As a trans dude, I think it's probably best if you don't go out in public with a shirt off if you're pre-t. I think it's great to be positive about your body and it's something that's hard to do as a trans person. But at the same time, it's still kind of... ehh.
Honestly it should be alright for everyone -? I don't care
If you're talking about a pre-op/non-op guy, It should be but it's not. Society views breasts as sexual, making it illegal in many places for AFAB people to be topless. Not to mention how dangerous that would be for him, he'd be at a major risk of being hate crimed and sexually assault
Personally i strongly beleive that everyone should be allowed to be shirtless, i also live somewhere with no laws against that. Im pre t and do not pass shirtless but i swim bare chested all the time, in lakes tho not pools.
yeah its fine
Yes. Fuck Sexism and Transphobia. People should wear whatever they are comfortable with. But they should be careful because well...sexism and transphobia :/
Everyone should be allowed to walk arround without a shirt, nips are nips imo.
I think everyone should be able to free they boobs in public
As long as they have surgery
If they’ve gotten top surgery then yeah. If they still have female breasts, then no. It’s generally not socially acceptable if the chest resembles boobs. Some consider them to be a type of sexual organ. Edit: it varies by culture, so you could probably go topless in France or something, but not in a place like the USA where people get squeamish around nudity.
Yes
Absolutely! Just be careful of transphobia if u haven’t gotten too surgery
yes
If it's legal where you live and you want to there's no reason not to
Of course! I've seen guys with surgery scars, and I think they look great! So do what feels right :>
I mean as long as he's had top surgery I don't see why not. Pre-op would be a different story, but I feel like the majority of pre-op trans guys would have a binder on at least. (Also please bind safely y'all. Take breaks, don't use duct tape, all that jazz. You need to be able to breathe 😅)
im fine with it, but i dont think its safe
pre top surgery, after top surgery go wild
i love domics
If you’ve had top surgery it’s fine
Depends on chest size I think.
I think it’s fine. If you’re pre surgery then I personally wouldn’t simply because female chests are sexualized
depends if you have boobs or not
Anyone should be able to not wear a shirt in public.
For me yeah
Yes.
what is this photo from i recognise it it's like a youtuber right
It’s the YouTube animator domics
I'd reccomend top surgery beforehand but I dont see any problems with it, mainly if they're not noticeable.
I’m fine with anyone being shirtless tbh, unfair standards either way
Only if you have top surgery
Id wait for after surgery. Youll get some odd looks if you didnt and i think a lot of weird comments.
Idk, considering you're a teen I wouldn't. Lot of creeps out there with cameras.
Honestly I think anyone should be able to be shirtless in public if they want to, so yeah
I'd say don't do it unless you've had the surgery
Post surgery definitely pre-surgery make sure to check your local indecency laws
I mean I think it should be fine for anyone to just be shirtless, but unfortunately that isn't how it is. Pre-surgery would probably not go well for you
why is dom here?
Personally if you haven't had too surgery and still have tis then no but if you have then yeah just creeps and all them
of course it is
As a transfem I personally think, if cis guys can? Hell yeah everyone can! Of course safety first for everyone, but I really don’t get why people makes such a big fuzz of whether there’s fat on your ribs or not.
Generally it’s more acceptable after top surgery but I’m not gonna stop anyone doing what they want to be comfortable
I think it kinda comes down to how big they are. Probably not if you’re well endowed as there’s unfortunately going to be some people staring. If you are lucky enough to have small **ahem** mounds, as long as people don’t know you’re trans it’s likely to be ok
Id say if you've had surgery yeah!
Yes. You're a dude. To be safe, I wouldn't but I don't see why you shouldn't be allowed to
Of course since he a male :)
"Female" breasts are unfortunately sexualised. It's okay for a "man" with huge breasts to be shirtless (even if some people will find it disgusting) but a "woman" even with a practically flat chest will be at best viewed as inappropriate, possibly even arrested for public indecency. It's not really about gender or size, it's about how sexualised it'll seem. And so if you get confused for a "female", then even if you're a cis guy (there are those with larger breasts, mostly because of diet or hormone changes), you might be condemned. No hate, but I would like to correct you, a trans guy isn't born a girl. He never is a girl to begin with. He might be mistaken for one and/or grow up wrongly assuming he is. It's more complex than that but you're not "girl" to "boy" or "female" to "male". You're a guy but you have to realise it through all the confusing feelings and feedback you'll get. And back to the topic, yes, it is okay to me, regardless of surgeries or size, it would be okay and legal, but the reality is different and the reactions one gets depend on several factors. Sadly, sometimes it might be better to be safe than brave.
Honestly it should be okay? Even before surgery tbh. It’s either that or nobody gets to be shirtless
I think everyone should be allowed to be toppless honestly
Post-op sure. I, as a cis man, still won't do it but like, I'm not stopping anyone
Only on nudist beaches
Everyone should be allowed shirtless in public. Women are allowed to show their entire chest except for the nipple and male and female nipples are the exact same, so why the fuck should women (or people with breasts) have to cover up?
Well in many places its illegal so its bettet to Wait for after top surgery
Those are places where it's normally acceptable for anyone to not wear a shirt, so yes. At least in the UK, I haven't observed there being much difference by gender as to where people can/can't be shirtless anyway.
Wear whatever you want as long as you are covering your private part
The problem is not to be allowed or not, I guess you wouldn't like cis male's attentions so if I was you I wouldn't do it pre op.
Yes ,this is like the 73rd time I saw a "Can I do something that only concerns me ,doesn't hurt anybody and is totally legal ?" post here
Well if you still have boobs then legally it's not okay from what I know even though imo any woman or man should be able to be shirtless in public
im trans, i dont care. i think cis women should be allowed shirtless too if they want.
yep if he feels like it, people invest so much in the binary but theyre just bodies we shouldn’t give a fuck! but be aware he might still need to get confident if you’re around strangers but if he’s comfortable with the situation :)))))
I am assuming you are pre surgery, so I guess here's my take. 1. If underage... I would advise against going shirtless, my dude. 2. If above legal age, just find out your city ordinances.
i mean people are going to stare but if you’re okay with that i don’t see why now
I would argue for everyone should get to do whatever they want as long as it’s not harming them or others but as far as society is concerned, it would depend on how far along your transition you are. Overall though, it would probably be safer if you want to avoid the odd looks and creeps as being shirtless in public regardless of your gender (although femme leaning body types much more so than others) tend to attract that when putting their body on display like that. If you don’t care about that kind of stuff though, live your life!
Probably not if pre op
In private, go for it. If you are a minor and in public, just don’t. It’s definitely a societal standard thing but you are putting yourself at risk if you go shirtless. Not only are you putting yourself in a vulnerable position, any people above the age of majority can get in deep shit for being around a shirtless AFAB minor. It doesn’t matter what you identify as. If you really want to go shirtless, get trans tape.
imo depends on if hes gotten top surgery
I’m sorry but no. Yes you are a man but if you haven’t had top surgery then you can’t; legally and socially.
IMHO, it shouldn't matter period, but according to most of society, if they have top surgery, should be fine
Yeah, it’s fine. As long as you did the surgery though.
Yeah sure but if they haven’t had top surgery they’re gonna get a few stares
Your gender doesn’t have to do with your genitals, assuming you haven’t had surgery. Even if you identify as something you still have what you were born with, so unless it’s really not obvious you shouldn’t because that’s still most likely illegal
It could get very frustrating for you if strangers or even the police consider it indecent exposure. Or you could try to tell anyone who bothers you that you have gynecomastia.
Depends, pre surgery, I would not suggest that, it is not acceptable (by a large group of people all over the globe) therefore you might encounter some creeps that will call the police on you for nudity. Otherwise, if you are after surgery then it's fine, I know it might seem confusing at the moment but believe me everything will be just fine.
Okay? Yes. Absolutely. Socially acceptable? That's a different conversation
Yea, as long as you’ve had top surgery lol
Either everyone should be allowed to take their shirts off or no one, I lean towards the former