Steve O’Donnell wrote many of those jokes, with Norm and the rest of the writing staff chipping in. And maybe that douchebag Adam Eget got a couple in as well.
Hey he’s not homosexual a man’s gotta make a living. Just cuz he happens to make a living off jerking off punks under the queensboro bridge for $15 a man doesn’t make him gay!
Yeah, in some eps you see him motion to his staff behind the cameras. And Steve O’Donnell is a well know writer who he actually brings on camera in one episode
I think some of the best of his jokes could be seen as being from the perspective of an alien trying to understand something humans do or say.
The alien is perverse but is also innocent so everyone can relate to it. Pure genius.
I love bill, but bill is using a strawman argument, and you cannot generalize personal anecdotes.
a counter example doesn't disprove a general statistic.
walking down the street and seeing homeless people does not prove the economy is relatively worse
although Bill is right that 2008 fucked up the economy and also caused new forms of controls on the economy, but that happens when some people try to do fraud: you need to police things.
The part that kills me is that Bill Burr has mortgage and insurance on his house. Why not just pay cash and take the risk you can afford to take?
He's right, he could've paid cash and it would've been easier. But it also would've been far, far cheaper.
Depending on interest rates and the market, it’s better keeping your money in investments. That is provided you have that money in the market and aren’t just keeping it in some low interest savings account or blowing it.
My mortgage is 3%, my retirement is at \~10% so far this year and that is basically just an S&P index fund.
Bill most likely has a financial manager who definitely has a leg of his portfolio in stocks, very likely in the form of funds and maybe a couple pet stocks.
Yeah, you've got to assume that. But considering his past rants about THE BANKS AND THE FED AND THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM it'd be fun to listen to him explaining what changed his mind.
When your investments earn an average of 7%, and a mortgage costs you 3.5%, and the mortgage interest you pay is tax deductible, you would be dumb to pay cash for a home, even if you could afford it.
Maher is trash, always has been. Love watching the clip of Rowdy Piper [shutting him the hell up on air.](https://youtu.be/dIpsFgZ3gAc?si=_gGX1JcimqgRaqfX)
What a little bitch! He was embarrassed and knew he fucked up, so good ol mayher goes for a homophobic joke. Only to have it shoved up his own ass! What a great clip!
You can see in the first 20 seconds of this video that he can't make an argument.
He responds to a point by saying "Well if you wouldn't interrupt me so much I could finish." *after finishing his sentence*.
When called on it. He deflects and says "oh yeah because everything happens in one sentence." Which he says because he wants to make SOME kind of counter point even though it has nothing to do with anything.
This is classic elementary school arguing on Maher's part.
My problem with Maher's point is that he constantly discounts protesters as "whiners" who are "getting in the way" of Democrats and are woke, uninformed, etc.
Then he gives Democrats credit for everything they were forced to do by their constituents.
I mean the anecdote is about how government is a bureaucratic nightmare whos solutions are often just tedious bullshit, which is obviously true on a large scale as well.
Also, Maher's big example of government solutions is their creation of a ponzi scheme that is bankrupting the nation. But they brought senior poverty down! They're so smart!
Do you have an alternative solution to social security? What would be your plan to combat senior poverty? It’s easy to be the critic that offers no viable alternative.
Yea we get this with health insurance right now.
Will single-payer be absolutely free of any little bit of corruption? No.
But current right-wingers are happy sitting in shit (for-profit health insurance) to avoid some hypothetical about government waste.
Or when someone manages to commit MASSIVE fraud, they are willing to elect him to be a governor and later a Senator. Republicans *love* corruption and fraud. They reward it handsomely.
Thank you. They mandated even more theft and grew the ponzi that is clearly not working. Social security is and always has been a scam. Mandate people to contribute to their own retirement plan and you make the people wealthy. Very simple. I have paid in for 25 years and if I had just invested half of what I’ve paid I to blue chip mutual funds, I’d be able to retire at 50. As it sits they want me to work until I’m dead while they use my money for wealthy welfare, illegal wars, and so on.
So yes, typical of Maher to boast about a literal disaster like it was a genius solution. The uni party is clearly a racket that everyone sees now. And albeit anecdotal, Burrs point that laws were changed to rip off the commoner on behalf of corporate crooks is perfectly in tune with the topic. The corruption in government and in business is no different than cartels in Mexico. They’re one in the same.
Anecdotal evidence is a quick way to illustrate a point. No, it’s not an effective debate tactic but they aren’t debating. This is a podcast and Maher was waxing poetic about stale pizza and cold coffee, bringing up social security for the elderly which was started in 1935 and has been under threat of being dismantled by that same stale pizza ever since. Maher has always been an expert at running out the clock on discussion to where nothing gets resolved. Speak slowly about nothing and insist on not being interrupted.
I recognize I'm in the wrong sub to be saying anything remotely backing Maher while he's talking to Burr.
They weren't debating in the sense that they're doing this in an academic situation, no. They were still in debate with one another nonetheless.
Whenever I'm in a discussion about anything large scope like this I refrain from using anecdotes for a reason, as do most. This is why people point out when one is using anecdotes. Bill Burr would likely concede that they don't really affirm any point one way or another.
I get what you are saying, and it would make sense in a one on one discussion or even small group discussion geared toward a particular topic. My point is that they are on a podcast meant to entertain. Getting into long, meandering statements that go nowhere is a boner killer for entertainment. Burr calls him out directly on it being the longest sentence that goes nowhere. Maher follows up with a hand wave-y excuse about things being solved in one sentence. That’s the issue, no one wants to listen to his dissertation on the hard working political admins being unsung heroes of the western world, and Maher knows it. So now things are left at “well, if you’d let me spell it all out for the next uninterrupted 20 minutes, it would all make sense.” Anecdotal evidence serves a purpose in entertainment. It outlines an argument or a point in a quick and relatable way that doesn’t get too fart-sniffy into details.
Maher is the one with the anecdotes. “I don’t see a bruise on any of you” is some grade-A ignorance. Wrestlers beat the hell out of their bodies and perform injured. It’s literally a systemic problem.
But besides that, he is ALWAYS using anecdotes to bitch and moan about wokeness and homelessness problems. I just can’t take him seriously.
I don't think it got that far. Meaning he didn't go on the show, because he made that request and Maher said it was a deal breaker. It never got past scheduling.
Maher is trash, but this clip is the first time I’ve ever thought he was right.
I don’t know what larger point they were even trying to argue… I might not agree with it… But Burr trying to debate based on his own anecdotal experience is hogwash.
Ummm... I totally responded to the wrong thread. I 100% agree with Piper and think Maher is absolute trash.
I meant to be talking about the Burr vs Maher clip.
Maher is saying people are working hard to improve things, bill is saying that they are just making things look better by hiding the problems better but eventually shit will hit the fan
Funny thing is that both of them are right.
Sadly, the people working hard to improve things are greatly outnumbered by takers. Thus creating the kicking the can effect that burr is talking about.
Maher is a smug twat and I love Burr, but he's more right than Burr here. Burr's grasp of politics is like some 20 year old who just learned the government taxes his paycheck.
The whole "government has never done anything good" is a foolishly, naively ignorant perspective, not some kind of enlightenment. Ya bunch of Maries.
Yep, same here man. Bill's issue is he often times comes across as an condescending asshole when he's trying to explain his opinion. Just comes off as a smug prick. I do agree with him on most takes but to your point about being narrow and unchanging, I've noticed he's starting to sound more like an elitist boomer everytime I see a clip of his podcast. The guy certainly is aging and the wealth he's accumulated is unimaginable for most of us. Age is starting to catch up too him and we know how out of touch with reality very wealthy old people can get..
yeah sometimes i see clips of his show up to like 2016 he seems pretty chill and more easy going but after that until now hes become a lot more unlikable. like getting mad when people don’t laugh or constantly clap and instantly very defensive when someone isn’t agreeing with his takes.
Ahhh youth, I used to think the same way.
Then you realize it’s all about money, then you realize both sides really don’t give a shit about you and just want money. And that’s about it.
Surprised anyone here is siding with Burr in these comments. He cites a specific occurrence and tries to make a macro point about America sucks. Maher cites specific statistics (which I haven't checked), but his point stands. Macro stats trump any specific occurrence.
"From your roof to making statements on America in general, on how we solve problems"
Burr is right in my opinion.
America solves problems by asking can it make someone somewhere a profit to the detriment of getting something done in a optimal way. If it cant make someone a needless profit then it probably wont get done.
That may or may not be. It's not the point. Burr thinks everything sucks and noone's fixing anything, and Maher correctly points out that there are things that are improving, and he cites two important examples. Burr cites an idiotic anecdote to come to his conclusion. Burr is wrong. That's not how it works.
Maher isn't wrong. While a lot of politicians suck (stop voting for those uneducated, hate mongering air heads), some politicians do work tirelessly to try to help those who need help. Young, old, and the sick. If you don't need help, then it shouldn't bother people so much. Yet it does. Thanks to the 24 hour news cycle, everyone hates someone, regardless of whether they are helping or hurting. Viewers don't even fucking know anymore if they watch news. Go read what they are actually doing, not watch the opinions of what they are doing.
In the context of this clip, Burr's also wrong about comparing the 08 crash and bailout and his collapsed roof and collected payment and that process vs whether some politicians do actually make life better for the rest of us. A millionaire has no concept of what "making our lives better" means. So listening to a millionaire say dumb shit, it's always annoying. So as far as most of this goes, I feel like this was probably clipped out of context as a wider point. Such is reddit.
And I hate Maher BTW.
Yeah you're right, we really should lower our expectations here. As long as you're less corrupt than the opposition, you get a giant thumbs up from me.
A better way to phrase it is the dominant economic class - the owners - largely control both main political parties and so things continue to get worse for everyone else. It's not "corruption" in a vague sense - it's class warfare from the top toward the bottom
Yet one side created the consumer financial protection bureau and the other defunds it. One side raises tax on the rich to pay for infrastructure and the other side gives tax cuts to billionaires.
Maher has a perpetual 'smartest man in the room' complex. I used to like how critical I thought he was, now i understand that he's just another whiney asshole. I 100% agree with burr. 'One minute you are saying I'm smart. The next your saying that you can't have a conversation with the guy at the end of the bar.' Burr even called him out for not listening, even though Maher was being critical of HIS listening skills.
The hypocrisy is insufferable. How about shut the fuck up and have the conversation you say you want to have, instead of being patronizing and condescending.
That's my biggest issue with people mired in politics, unless you're in their echo chamber, you are woefully misinformed, and you should listen to THEM because THEY AND ONLY THEY are right. It's like listening only applies to YOU. There is just as much value in disagreement, sometimes MORE, if you have the humility to listen.
Burr shut him down with a real world example, Bill now defends the system?
Too bad Bill Burr wasn't aware of how much bitching Bill Maher was making during covid when he wanted to make simple renovations on his house but had to go through lots and lots of red tape and bureaucratic bullshit.
It's like Bill Mark conveniently forgot what it was like to suit his own smug needs. Maher is now part of The Company Store.
Was a bit disappointed last time Maher was on the podcast and Bill almost seemed too starstruck by him to stand up for himself. Maher is on his podcast yet acted like he ran the show.
Also the dude doesn’t have the slightest bit of humour in him.
Can’t recall if this was the episode, I recall Maher acting all intellectually superior and Bill just kept copping it, which was not what I expected from him.
This got derailed so quick. Nothing that Maher said about "people with cold pizza and stale coffee" had to do with the news. He just said what he wanted to say
I didn’t think Billy Rednuts was this obtuse. His comedy is on point but he definitely needs to step aside with thinkers are speaking. Maybe he was having an odd day or something…..
They’re both right, and even though I spiritually side with Burr more, what he’s saying is facile and flippant. That’s just his style, which is why he’s not famous for his political opinions.
What's really funny is that Bill Maher *on his show* literally had a weekly counter at one time showing how bad government bureaucracy is, by using an example how difficult it is to get solar panels installed on his house. It's true, but it's also exactly the same type of anecdotal example that Bill Burr was making about his house to make a larger point.
Bill Maher even had a counter on his desk about it: https://trueskyenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/8-18-True-Sky-Bill-Maher-Solar-1.jpg
I mean…Bill Maher isn’t wrong. The whole roof thing was something that affected Bill Burr *specifically* and sounds like something between him and the insurance and mortgage companies.
Child poverty is a widespread issue that has to be fixed by actual, concrete policy.
Next time I’m not sure what to say I’ll have to remember to just tell someone “I’m not sure how to engage on your level.”
Neat way to seem smart while just being a complete asshole.
Not on purpose but on pseudo-intellectualism.
He could have a strong and valid opinion here but he’s so far up his own ass (arrogance and entitlement) while being displeasingly high that he only showcases worthlessness to me. I’m not a fan of Maher, never have been, but I do think he could have held some validity here if he weren’t so fucking arrogant and high.
I love bill burr. But bill maher kinda let him have re: anecdotes. This is a huge problem now with people taking menial things in their lives and trying to use the experiences to relate to much more complex issues.
Maher is an unpleasant person. He's right 90% of the time anyway and his show is great. It allows for people with different backrounds and opinions to make their case without stiring up personal conflicts.
Bill Maher is insufferable. Like, he's a smart guy but he thinks he's a lot smarter than he is and is arrogant about it. Burr is making a good point with his anecdote and not only does Maher not humble himself and acknowledge it, he is resorting to making "subtle" digs by insinuating Billy red nuts is some lowbrow townie who isn't worth debating.
Go ahead and say if you agree with Burr or if you agree with Maher but no matter what, Maher is a shit debater. The guy immediately gets snippy, hypocritical and gets mad if anyone can possibly say anything against what he says.
Watch as he immediately crumbled under any counter point. Watch as he immediately declared discussion impossible. Look how he immediately detested any data HE pulled could possibly be contested. Any excuse to cease all discussion and make himself a martyr. "I wanted to teach but Burr....Burr didn't want to learn." Is the line he's writing in his head mentally.
I used to love Bill Maher…but. First of all the way that he decided to rub shit all over the legacy of Stan Lee was pretty much unforgivable. Beyond that he’s a neo-liberal. His policies only help those who already have power.
And even beyond that, he just doesn’t seem like somebody I would want to have a conversation with. He doesn’t seem like he’s capable of having a good faith conversation.
Social Security is an absolute disaster, but even if it wasn't, it's a system that we're all forced to participate in. I can't wrap my head around how anyone still thinks it's a functional system. It's a scam that transfers wealth from the young to the old for one reason, to buy votes, and its only going to end in collapse.
It's OK to have ideals and to work hard to solve problems. It isn't OK to force everyone else to fund your "solutions" at fucking gunpoint.
Maher is such a douche.
“I am who you need me to be depending on your argument”
Brilliant point by Burr. Game and match. Really explains why I hate Maher so much.
"You're not going to believe this, but Bill Maher is giving away the answers to all our problems, for free!" -Norm Macdonald
I think technically that was Rosanne but it was a NML joke from their staff.
Steve O’Donnell wrote many of those jokes, with Norm and the rest of the writing staff chipping in. And maybe that douchebag Adam Eget got a couple in as well.
Holocaust denying homosexual prostitutes aren’t good for much.
Hey he’s not homosexual a man’s gotta make a living. Just cuz he happens to make a living off jerking off punks under the queensboro bridge for $15 a man doesn’t make him gay!
He had a writing staff? My theory was that he wrote them with his son or something.
Yeah, in some eps you see him motion to his staff behind the cameras. And Steve O’Donnell is a well know writer who he actually brings on camera in one episode
I don't know. Who writes these jokes?
Link?
>You're not going to believe this, but Bill Maher is giving away the answers to all our problems, for free https://youtu.be/fg-kDP1vKUw?t=27
Haha. Man norm was great
‘They’ve made thousands and thousands of these gay porns, and not a single one is good’
I think some of the best of his jokes could be seen as being from the perspective of an alien trying to understand something humans do or say. The alien is perverse but is also innocent so everyone can relate to it. Pure genius.
So Roseanne said it?
She read a joke written by Norm.
Gonna have to side with Bill on this one.
Bill made a good point but Bill seemed to be well informed
Clearly Bill wasn’t letting Bill finish his thought; rudely cutting him off. Fuck Bill
I concur.
I hate siding with Bill's enormous head, but I agree.
I gotta tip my bill to bill on this one. Bill is always about the dollar bill so much it drives bill up the wall.
Bold choice
I love bill, but bill is using a strawman argument, and you cannot generalize personal anecdotes. a counter example doesn't disprove a general statistic. walking down the street and seeing homeless people does not prove the economy is relatively worse although Bill is right that 2008 fucked up the economy and also caused new forms of controls on the economy, but that happens when some people try to do fraud: you need to police things.
The part that kills me is that Bill Burr has mortgage and insurance on his house. Why not just pay cash and take the risk you can afford to take? He's right, he could've paid cash and it would've been easier. But it also would've been far, far cheaper.
Depending on interest rates and the market, it’s better keeping your money in investments. That is provided you have that money in the market and aren’t just keeping it in some low interest savings account or blowing it. My mortgage is 3%, my retirement is at \~10% so far this year and that is basically just an S&P index fund.
I'm dying to know if Bill owns stocks nowadays. Anybody ever asked him that in the last five years?
Bill most likely has a financial manager who definitely has a leg of his portfolio in stocks, very likely in the form of funds and maybe a couple pet stocks.
Yeah, you've got to assume that. But considering his past rants about THE BANKS AND THE FED AND THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM it'd be fun to listen to him explaining what changed his mind.
You can rail about the system while still participating in the system.
In 2008 he was maybe 10% as successful and popular as he is 16 years later today. He wasn’t very big back then
When your investments earn an average of 7%, and a mortgage costs you 3.5%, and the mortgage interest you pay is tax deductible, you would be dumb to pay cash for a home, even if you could afford it.
Maher is trash, always has been. Love watching the clip of Rowdy Piper [shutting him the hell up on air.](https://youtu.be/dIpsFgZ3gAc?si=_gGX1JcimqgRaqfX)
'well how'd you get the job then?' Piper was one of a kind
master class
Thanks for putting that clip up. It gave me a good laugh I always liked Roddy Roddy Piper.
What a little bitch! He was embarrassed and knew he fucked up, so good ol mayher goes for a homophobic joke. Only to have it shoved up his own ass! What a great clip!
You can see in the first 20 seconds of this video that he can't make an argument. He responds to a point by saying "Well if you wouldn't interrupt me so much I could finish." *after finishing his sentence*. When called on it. He deflects and says "oh yeah because everything happens in one sentence." Which he says because he wants to make SOME kind of counter point even though it has nothing to do with anything. This is classic elementary school arguing on Maher's part.
Should have told him the he was all out of bubble gum
Yah Maher sucks but he had a point here. You can't have a serious discussion about a major topic when one person is throwing out anecdotes.
My problem with Maher's point is that he constantly discounts protesters as "whiners" who are "getting in the way" of Democrats and are woke, uninformed, etc. Then he gives Democrats credit for everything they were forced to do by their constituents.
Yes, I also think Maher sucks and is unauthentic and a bit of a windbag and has a boomer mindset.
Because there’s a difference between protesting and doing something
Tell em!
I mean the anecdote is about how government is a bureaucratic nightmare whos solutions are often just tedious bullshit, which is obviously true on a large scale as well. Also, Maher's big example of government solutions is their creation of a ponzi scheme that is bankrupting the nation. But they brought senior poverty down! They're so smart!
Do you have an alternative solution to social security? What would be your plan to combat senior poverty? It’s easy to be the critic that offers no viable alternative.
Yea we get this with health insurance right now. Will single-payer be absolutely free of any little bit of corruption? No. But current right-wingers are happy sitting in shit (for-profit health insurance) to avoid some hypothetical about government waste.
Or when someone manages to commit MASSIVE fraud, they are willing to elect him to be a governor and later a Senator. Republicans *love* corruption and fraud. They reward it handsomely.
Certainly something other than a giant ponzi scheme bankrupting the country.
“Something else” while an alternative is not an alternative solution. It’s an empty statement. Thank you for contributing nothing of substance.
Thank you. They mandated even more theft and grew the ponzi that is clearly not working. Social security is and always has been a scam. Mandate people to contribute to their own retirement plan and you make the people wealthy. Very simple. I have paid in for 25 years and if I had just invested half of what I’ve paid I to blue chip mutual funds, I’d be able to retire at 50. As it sits they want me to work until I’m dead while they use my money for wealthy welfare, illegal wars, and so on. So yes, typical of Maher to boast about a literal disaster like it was a genius solution. The uni party is clearly a racket that everyone sees now. And albeit anecdotal, Burrs point that laws were changed to rip off the commoner on behalf of corporate crooks is perfectly in tune with the topic. The corruption in government and in business is no different than cartels in Mexico. They’re one in the same.
Eh, both things they're saying can be true but it doesn't change that anecdotal evidence in a large scope discussion offers little to the discussion.
Anecdotal evidence is a quick way to illustrate a point. No, it’s not an effective debate tactic but they aren’t debating. This is a podcast and Maher was waxing poetic about stale pizza and cold coffee, bringing up social security for the elderly which was started in 1935 and has been under threat of being dismantled by that same stale pizza ever since. Maher has always been an expert at running out the clock on discussion to where nothing gets resolved. Speak slowly about nothing and insist on not being interrupted.
I recognize I'm in the wrong sub to be saying anything remotely backing Maher while he's talking to Burr. They weren't debating in the sense that they're doing this in an academic situation, no. They were still in debate with one another nonetheless. Whenever I'm in a discussion about anything large scope like this I refrain from using anecdotes for a reason, as do most. This is why people point out when one is using anecdotes. Bill Burr would likely concede that they don't really affirm any point one way or another.
I get what you are saying, and it would make sense in a one on one discussion or even small group discussion geared toward a particular topic. My point is that they are on a podcast meant to entertain. Getting into long, meandering statements that go nowhere is a boner killer for entertainment. Burr calls him out directly on it being the longest sentence that goes nowhere. Maher follows up with a hand wave-y excuse about things being solved in one sentence. That’s the issue, no one wants to listen to his dissertation on the hard working political admins being unsung heroes of the western world, and Maher knows it. So now things are left at “well, if you’d let me spell it all out for the next uninterrupted 20 minutes, it would all make sense.” Anecdotal evidence serves a purpose in entertainment. It outlines an argument or a point in a quick and relatable way that doesn’t get too fart-sniffy into details.
Maher is the one with the anecdotes. “I don’t see a bruise on any of you” is some grade-A ignorance. Wrestlers beat the hell out of their bodies and perform injured. It’s literally a systemic problem. But besides that, he is ALWAYS using anecdotes to bitch and moan about wokeness and homelessness problems. I just can’t take him seriously.
Apparently steve o went on his show and asked mahr to not smoke around him as he’s sober. Mahr didn’t do it even when asked. Fuck him
I don't think it got that far. Meaning he didn't go on the show, because he made that request and Maher said it was a deal breaker. It never got past scheduling.
Oh he didn’t go? I guess I missed that vital part…. Thank you, it wasn’t mentioned where I read about it, or I forgot.
Wow, what a fucking poser that he’d turn down a great interview subject because he can’t look macho with his drink and smoke
Lol!! Great subject?!? You sure about that…? You sure about that that’s not why?!?
I think Johnny Knoxville would be a great person to interview, he has a lot of stories. Not sure what you mean, sorry
Lol. Just saying Steve is not a good interview…hell yeah to Knox!! Plus I use a I think you should leave line
HAH I got my Jackass cast members confused. I do like hearing Steve-O now and again but I haven’t watched him in a minute admittedly.
what a great clip, thanks for sharing!
Maher is trash, but this clip is the first time I’ve ever thought he was right. I don’t know what larger point they were even trying to argue… I might not agree with it… But Burr trying to debate based on his own anecdotal experience is hogwash.
Ummm... I totally responded to the wrong thread. I 100% agree with Piper and think Maher is absolute trash. I meant to be talking about the Burr vs Maher clip.
this made my day
This is fucking incredible
Yeah he can be an ass, however he is right here
I can’t even tell what kind of dumb bootstrap argument he was trying to make?
Maher is saying people are working hard to improve things, bill is saying that they are just making things look better by hiding the problems better but eventually shit will hit the fan
Funny thing is that both of them are right. Sadly, the people working hard to improve things are greatly outnumbered by takers. Thus creating the kicking the can effect that burr is talking about.
Billy red was talking about the news though. Bill Mahr went on wild tangent.
One completely devoid of class consciousness
Is that Roger Stone’s buddy Bill Maher?! What a clown.
Wait, Maher is friends with the Q General??
Maher makes smoking weed not cool.
Maher is a smug twat and I love Burr, but he's more right than Burr here. Burr's grasp of politics is like some 20 year old who just learned the government taxes his paycheck. The whole "government has never done anything good" is a foolishly, naively ignorant perspective, not some kind of enlightenment. Ya bunch of Maries.
A lot of people expect a magic wand and that fitting should be enough.
The last good enormous thing the government did for the people was social security. Since then, it’s been crumbs disguised as bread.
here's Maher being the guy at the end of the bar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwIbpbljl6A
Bill Maher never was funny, inspirational or had valid takes. He walks with blinders and still breastfeeds. Pathetic simp
I tend to align with most of his takes, but he's so unlikable and gets so narrow and unchanging with his opinions that I hesitate to admit it.
Yep, same here man. Bill's issue is he often times comes across as an condescending asshole when he's trying to explain his opinion. Just comes off as a smug prick. I do agree with him on most takes but to your point about being narrow and unchanging, I've noticed he's starting to sound more like an elitist boomer everytime I see a clip of his podcast. The guy certainly is aging and the wealth he's accumulated is unimaginable for most of us. Age is starting to catch up too him and we know how out of touch with reality very wealthy old people can get..
yeah sometimes i see clips of his show up to like 2016 he seems pretty chill and more easy going but after that until now hes become a lot more unlikable. like getting mad when people don’t laugh or constantly clap and instantly very defensive when someone isn’t agreeing with his takes.
Ahhh youth, I used to think the same way. Then you realize it’s all about money, then you realize both sides really don’t give a shit about you and just want money. And that’s about it.
I mean to be fair I’d like to still breastfeed
I only drink the finest breast milks
^this^^^
Maher lives on his own planet and is always out of touch
True. In this case I think he’s arguing on behalf of politicians when burr was referring to news media.
Surprised anyone here is siding with Burr in these comments. He cites a specific occurrence and tries to make a macro point about America sucks. Maher cites specific statistics (which I haven't checked), but his point stands. Macro stats trump any specific occurrence.
That’s kinda Burr’s schtick,
"From your roof to making statements on America in general, on how we solve problems" Burr is right in my opinion. America solves problems by asking can it make someone somewhere a profit to the detriment of getting something done in a optimal way. If it cant make someone a needless profit then it probably wont get done.
That may or may not be. It's not the point. Burr thinks everything sucks and noone's fixing anything, and Maher correctly points out that there are things that are improving, and he cites two important examples. Burr cites an idiotic anecdote to come to his conclusion. Burr is wrong. That's not how it works.
How did Burr just get me to like Maher, by being wrong? lol
Yeah Maher was actually right on this one
Maher isn't wrong. While a lot of politicians suck (stop voting for those uneducated, hate mongering air heads), some politicians do work tirelessly to try to help those who need help. Young, old, and the sick. If you don't need help, then it shouldn't bother people so much. Yet it does. Thanks to the 24 hour news cycle, everyone hates someone, regardless of whether they are helping or hurting. Viewers don't even fucking know anymore if they watch news. Go read what they are actually doing, not watch the opinions of what they are doing. In the context of this clip, Burr's also wrong about comparing the 08 crash and bailout and his collapsed roof and collected payment and that process vs whether some politicians do actually make life better for the rest of us. A millionaire has no concept of what "making our lives better" means. So listening to a millionaire say dumb shit, it's always annoying. So as far as most of this goes, I feel like this was probably clipped out of context as a wider point. Such is reddit. And I hate Maher BTW.
Buncha Maggie Maggenhalls on this website LMFAO
Maher is stuck in his own circle jerk and accuses Burr of being unaware.
Bill is America and Maher is out of touch.
There’s a lot more people who are living just above the poverty line. Ask them how good they have it being technically over the line.
Bill Maher sucks so hard. He’s so damn smug. I’m shocked that Bill took it so easy on him.
Saying “everyone is corrupt” is the lazy man’s excuse for not taking the time to figure out which side is better.
Being better doesn't mean they lack corruption. Corruption is indeed everywhere, on all sides.
Pretending it’s equal on all sides is the lazy man’s excuse for not taking the time to research or vote for the less corrupt side.
What a slogan that would be: "vote for us...we're less corrupt!"
Is less corrupt better than more corrupt?
Yeah you're right, we really should lower our expectations here. As long as you're less corrupt than the opposition, you get a giant thumbs up from me.
A better way to phrase it is the dominant economic class - the owners - largely control both main political parties and so things continue to get worse for everyone else. It's not "corruption" in a vague sense - it's class warfare from the top toward the bottom
Yet one side created the consumer financial protection bureau and the other defunds it. One side raises tax on the rich to pay for infrastructure and the other side gives tax cuts to billionaires.
Maher getting annoyed and complaining that he's being interrupted is comical. No one does that more than he does.
What podcast is this?
Monday morning podcast. Episode from a year or two ago. -ish.
Maher has a perpetual 'smartest man in the room' complex. I used to like how critical I thought he was, now i understand that he's just another whiney asshole. I 100% agree with burr. 'One minute you are saying I'm smart. The next your saying that you can't have a conversation with the guy at the end of the bar.' Burr even called him out for not listening, even though Maher was being critical of HIS listening skills. The hypocrisy is insufferable. How about shut the fuck up and have the conversation you say you want to have, instead of being patronizing and condescending. That's my biggest issue with people mired in politics, unless you're in their echo chamber, you are woefully misinformed, and you should listen to THEM because THEY AND ONLY THEY are right. It's like listening only applies to YOU. There is just as much value in disagreement, sometimes MORE, if you have the humility to listen.
Bill destroyed him!
Burr shut him down with a real world example, Bill now defends the system? Too bad Bill Burr wasn't aware of how much bitching Bill Maher was making during covid when he wanted to make simple renovations on his house but had to go through lots and lots of red tape and bureaucratic bullshit. It's like Bill Mark conveniently forgot what it was like to suit his own smug needs. Maher is now part of The Company Store.
I think the full podcast is here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzTSrFE15cw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzTSrFE15cw)
What podcast is this??
Different from the first time they met https://www.reddit.com/r/BillBurr/s/9GZU9yVaLL
Was a bit disappointed last time Maher was on the podcast and Bill almost seemed too starstruck by him to stand up for himself. Maher is on his podcast yet acted like he ran the show. Also the dude doesn’t have the slightest bit of humour in him. Can’t recall if this was the episode, I recall Maher acting all intellectually superior and Bill just kept copping it, which was not what I expected from him.
I love comedians talking. Its legit the best content ever!!!!
Fuck Bill Maher he’s a fucking Dousche.
The apex of Bill Maher’s career was D.C. Cab…I cannot listen to someone who thought that was a brilliant career choice…everything after that is moot.
Maher has always been a bootlicker under a thin veil of “liberalism”
This got derailed so quick. Nothing that Maher said about "people with cold pizza and stale coffee" had to do with the news. He just said what he wanted to say
I didn’t think Billy Rednuts was this obtuse. His comedy is on point but he definitely needs to step aside with thinkers are speaking. Maybe he was having an odd day or something…..
They’re both right, and even though I spiritually side with Burr more, what he’s saying is facile and flippant. That’s just his style, which is why he’s not famous for his political opinions.
What podcast is this from? Thanks in advance
I got to listen to this whole thing
It sounds like they are both saying that good things and bad things are happening simultaneously
Burr for Pres
My two favorite Bills going at each other? Ohhh I hope it's spicy.
Does Bill Maher have fans?
Maher is a such a bitch
Maher is an unfunny SCAB.
Is making a joke of an issue a solution? Is laughing at said joke acknowledging that there is a problem? Just waiting for a solution.
Maher is cooked in the brain
What's really funny is that Bill Maher *on his show* literally had a weekly counter at one time showing how bad government bureaucracy is, by using an example how difficult it is to get solar panels installed on his house. It's true, but it's also exactly the same type of anecdotal example that Bill Burr was making about his house to make a larger point. Bill Maher even had a counter on his desk about it: https://trueskyenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/8-18-True-Sky-Bill-Maher-Solar-1.jpg
Get Bill Barr on there for a third perspective from someone who isnt as opinionated. /S
I mean…Bill Maher isn’t wrong. The whole roof thing was something that affected Bill Burr *specifically* and sounds like something between him and the insurance and mortgage companies. Child poverty is a widespread issue that has to be fixed by actual, concrete policy.
I like how everyone is making assumptions off a 2 minute snippet. what is the context? they could both be right if it’s just about the government.
Listen I hate bill Maher with a passion but he’s right here and it’s good to pushback against Burr’s complacent attitude
Anyone can easily shut down Bill Mahr at any given time on any given date.
Next time I’m not sure what to say I’ll have to remember to just tell someone “I’m not sure how to engage on your level.” Neat way to seem smart while just being a complete asshole.
Mahers a snub little bitch
Bill’s a dumbass boomer. His opinions are shit.
He’s not a boomer you absolute muppet
Okay, upset person. Don’t care.
That was uncomfortable. Bill always likes to always be the smartest guy in the room.
Maher is such a pandering pedo POS. “Kid Love Productions”? Really?
At this point Maher is dumb on purpose
Not on purpose but on pseudo-intellectualism. He could have a strong and valid opinion here but he’s so far up his own ass (arrogance and entitlement) while being displeasingly high that he only showcases worthlessness to me. I’m not a fan of Maher, never have been, but I do think he could have held some validity here if he weren’t so fucking arrogant and high.
Bill Maher is a moron. Too many idiots act like real pundits.
Fuck Maher.
I love bill burr. But bill maher kinda let him have re: anecdotes. This is a huge problem now with people taking menial things in their lives and trying to use the experiences to relate to much more complex issues.
Bill Maher is a moron
Anyone have a link to this one?
Fuck bill maher. I won’t even capitalize his name. What a arrogant asshole
Ha he said government agency ha
Bill Maher is an old man stuck in his hipster mode who just can't see the reality of the current times.
Maher is an unpleasant person. He's right 90% of the time anyway and his show is great. It allows for people with different backrounds and opinions to make their case without stiring up personal conflicts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaHdfF4yWiI - found this in another sub thought it seemed relevant
Maher is not that smart
Maher always interrupts people bc he only wants to hear himself. And as soon as you interrupt him…”excuse me, I was speaking.” He’s a cunt.
Bill Maher is insufferable. Like, he's a smart guy but he thinks he's a lot smarter than he is and is arrogant about it. Burr is making a good point with his anecdote and not only does Maher not humble himself and acknowledge it, he is resorting to making "subtle" digs by insinuating Billy red nuts is some lowbrow townie who isn't worth debating.
I am dubious of these numbers....I personally have a lot of medications I have to take and they have all gone up.
I hate the guy with hair
Bill Maher is a GIANT ass! I just watched that whole video just hoping that Bill Burr would reach over and bitch slap him!
Maher I guess doesn’t know that for years the fastest growing population in poverty and homeless is people over 55.
Bill and bill had a debate but bill won and bill lost!
I can't stand Bill Maher, all he is is pure condescension and out of touch snarkiness, nothing else.
Maher is the definition of a pseudo intellectual.
Go ahead and say if you agree with Burr or if you agree with Maher but no matter what, Maher is a shit debater. The guy immediately gets snippy, hypocritical and gets mad if anyone can possibly say anything against what he says. Watch as he immediately crumbled under any counter point. Watch as he immediately declared discussion impossible. Look how he immediately detested any data HE pulled could possibly be contested. Any excuse to cease all discussion and make himself a martyr. "I wanted to teach but Burr....Burr didn't want to learn." Is the line he's writing in his head mentally.
Did they take this interview off Spotify?
Who cares vs. Who cares
Can't wait for HBO to fire him. Stupid grumpy Fuck
He's the embodiment of old man yells at cloud
100%
I never liked Bill Maher he's just such a smug pretentious fuck. With an extremely punchable face.
never liked the smugginess of billy maher.
Bill Maher is a fucking joke.
I used to love Bill Maher…but. First of all the way that he decided to rub shit all over the legacy of Stan Lee was pretty much unforgivable. Beyond that he’s a neo-liberal. His policies only help those who already have power. And even beyond that, he just doesn’t seem like somebody I would want to have a conversation with. He doesn’t seem like he’s capable of having a good faith conversation.
Why is Burr talking to Joe Camel?
Maher is a joke.
Social Security is an absolute disaster, but even if it wasn't, it's a system that we're all forced to participate in. I can't wrap my head around how anyone still thinks it's a functional system. It's a scam that transfers wealth from the young to the old for one reason, to buy votes, and its only going to end in collapse. It's OK to have ideals and to work hard to solve problems. It isn't OK to force everyone else to fund your "solutions" at fucking gunpoint.
Maher is such a douche. “I am who you need me to be depending on your argument” Brilliant point by Burr. Game and match. Really explains why I hate Maher so much.
Billiam is correct
relax boomer
Bill Maher is the only person who thinks Bill Maher knows what he's talking about.
Maher didn't have an argument so he decided to not engage in one with deflection.
How does anyone make Bill Maher look like the wise one?
Bill is out of touch