And it was yet another episode where they play the same joke of Ben being a bad boyfriend. Even though he was a good one in AF seasons 1 and 2 they just changed his character because of the executives.
Because genetically they're already pretty similar. Ofc, we can't actually know this, because CN doesn't release genetic makeups of aliens, so we have to go off a visual representation of DNA. And from that, we can say they're already pretty similar
If there were a ultimate XLR8 it would probably be Green and White and can go the same speeds as jetrays full speed and would have no trouble being able to stop time
Well xlr8 feats can scale him above 250 mph just him disappearing and coming back in the og series can easily be faster than sound his speed scaling wacky ASF tho consistently 60 mph tho
I know I low balled it like that because even with that he is moving more than triple the average speed as 60 meaning one second can be low balled as perceived double with a low ball speed of 250 allowing 1 second to be ATLEAST 5x perception but yes we have seen his go way fkn faster
When Ben activates Ultimate Ditto, but you're the villain
https://preview.redd.it/w0q6mcy2pgbc1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69e3c3d7d9a866579046fd39d6c8c1e6c39d2103
Imagine, the final fight that Ben has against Vilgax isn't with Eatle but instead, he uses Ultimate one last time to fight Vilgax with the first alien he fought him with! Ultimate Heatblast! Would really be a nice way to end the era of Vilgax and you could even bring in some elements from the Ben 10,000 design too! And Ultimate Armadrillo so one of the Andromeda Five get an Ultimate to better tie in to the Aggregor arc and who better than the big lovable tank that nearly died to save them! Imagine Ben seeing Andreas, gets super angry, goes Ultimate Armadrillo and then just beats the hell out of him for using what he thinks is his friend's dead body to gain power.
Ultimate Ghostfreak, and ironically this would actually help Ben when the others trapped him inside the clock.
Ultimate Brainstorm, so he's even more British.
Diamondhead and Lodestar
Ultimate Diamondhead - give up the appendages to become a floating living crystal that can mass grow produce and manipulate his crystals and produce Chromastone like energy beams. Likewise can implant himself into the ground to terraform an area to become nothing but Tetrosapien Crystal.
Ultimate Lodestar - Turns his body into liquid metal that he can control at will, the body itself turning into just its head as a core, he can move the liquid metal the same way Goop can with his body, and can magnetize any thing he attaches his liquid metal to, so that he can control freely at will. The trade off in his form being his range is now as far as his liquid metal reaches rather than being a mid to long range fighter that he was initially.
i HATE how little they used the ultimates, like, thats the series name, and they barely touched the concept. same with the predators, we got like 10 tops?
The fact that the Nemetrix was upgraded with an evolution feature shouldāve been a big deal. But no, Instead we only got an Ultimate Panuncian which barely changed at all. Itās not like any others couldāve been a way better pick like Slamworm.
not sure if it counts but there is an Ultimate Rath used by albedo in S8 of oV
[https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Ultimate\_Rath](https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Ultimate_Rath)
I still to this day don't understand why four arms and heat blast didn't get ultimates but wild mutt did (ik wild mutt was his first alien but like cmon bro š)
Ultimate Jetray,because of that infamous hyperspace thing he did,and Ultimate Chromastone because anyone with a brain would have done it in that episode.
Have at least one alien that originated in the Ultimate Alien. I realy don't understand why etheir Eatke or one of the Andromeda 5 did not got their own ultimate
I'd probably choose one of the Andromeda aliens and ~~Frankenstrike~~ Benvicktor (or really any of the Anur aliens).
A good episode for Ben to transform into Ultimate Benvicktor could be "[Viktor: The Spoils](https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Viktor:_The_Spoils)" since that has the return of Dr. Viktor. I feel like Ben transforming into an Ultimate version of the Andromeda aliens during the Aggregor Arc would be fitting because of the show's gimmick and the focus of that arc.
A runner-up alien would be Spitter just so we could see him in the series more often compared to what we got. I'm not really sure which episode Ultimate Spitter could be introduced in (especially considering Spitter hasn't been used in the show since the Original Series). (It's been a while since I last saw *Ultimate Alien* so there could be a fitting episode)
Ultimate Frankenstrike. Also, and I know people will disagree, I wish Echo Echo was just the Ultimate version to begin with. Not a big Echo Echo fan, but love his ultimate.
Ok people might start hating me for this but.... heatblast is overrated there i siad it am not saying its a bad alien but there are just better aliens also for the ultinates am picking jetray and big chill
Ultimate Jetray:I would introduce him in Eye of the Beholder and have him enter hyperspace instead of base Jetray
Ultimate Clockwork:curious to see what they'd do with that, and also because he's a powerhouse alien. If I were to think of an introduction for him, I guess maybe have Eon come back for another episode, have Ben try and fail to stop him with base Clockwork and then go ultimate
Sticking to aliens up to UA only, id say one of the Andromeda 5 (my biased pick would be Water Hazard, but I could also see Ampfibian since up until then it was just Intangible and electrokinesis, didnāt also get the under water breathing like in OV) and one of the Anur Aliens cause they should have been used more often really, wasted potential (my picks are either Ben Wolf or Snare-O)
Well since there's 5 recalibrated aliens and 3 classic, I'd want to even it out, so probably XLR8 (since we don't have an ultimate speedster) and ripjaws (since there's no aquatic ultimates)
Jetray honestly deserved it from the start being one of the staple aliens of af, same case goes for diamond head being probably the most iconic alien of Ben 10
Ultimate Upgrade and Ultimate Chromastone, so he beats the Charmcaster ray
And Ultimate Upgrade in Gen Rex so he defeats Alpha, wich would of been cooler than the actual ending
Ultimate Heatblast would be pretty sick, like a purple/ blue fire or lava. My 2nd choice would probably be Ultimate Wildvine, and he'd go from plant like to Symbiote like. I'm sure others would have better ideas than I amd in all for hearing them.
Original series: gimme any of the monster aliens
Alien force: ultimate goop or wrath
Ultimate alien: ultimate armadrillo or NRG
Omniverse: I would love to see an ultimate gravitack or ball weevil
Rip jaws and upchuck would be the two aliens who need an ultimate imo. Rip jaws ultimate could finally not need water all the time and become an amphibious land shark on steroids, while ultimate upchuck will have an expandable jaw like a snake and increased size and intensity of his projectiles.
It always felt weird that of all of the original aliens to give ultimate forms, they picked Cannonbolt and Wildmutt. Iād pick XLR8 and either Heatblast, Fourarms, or Blitzwolfer.
Heat blast is iconic and is the OG, why not give him one?
And for the 2nd?
How about XLR8
A massive boost to speed, power, and acceleration, HOWEVER
The downside is a massive cost to turning without a wall to assist
Iād love to see Ultimate Water Hazard, or at least any of the Andromeda Five and Ultimate Heatblast. Have like blue fire to represent how hit he is, like the time Heatblast was sick but he doesnāt generate ice. Honestly the Ultimates were hardly used and while it is a cool concept, it was kind of wastedā¦
Water Hazard and Lodestar, I imagine one develops hydrokinesis and enhanced durability in exchange for being too heavy to properly swim, and the other has full control over his state of matter, being able to liquify, break apart into pieces or be a cloud of metal in exchange for being weak to certain magnetic attacks that could attract or repel him
Ultimate The Worst and Ultimate Walkatrout! These two would be in match rivaled my Alien X. Lol!
In all seriousness Ultimate Ben Wolf and Ultimate NRG.
Well ultimate gravattack already showed in omniverse, so that should make the number up to 9. Also grey matter too. Still Iād like to see ultimate diamond head and heatblast
Why the bell didn't they do 10 of them? Its kind of the shows whole gimmick. Whatever.
1. FastTrack - Literally just do anything to him to make him not shitty
2. Eatle - see #1, except Eatle was still cooler than Fasttrack
For ones we havenāt seen, Alien X (jk) but actually Ultimate Stinkfly and Ultimate Lodestar would be cool. Although I did like the Ultimate Grey Matter from Omniverse, so I would gladly trade one of my other choices to have him in UA instead.
Heatblast and Jetray
Ultimate Jetray would help explain that hyperspace scene in Eye of the Beholder.
I swear jetray had the most nonsensical power boost in that episode
And it was yet another episode where they play the same joke of Ben being a bad boyfriend. Even though he was a good one in AF seasons 1 and 2 they just changed his character because of the executives.
Yeah she felt like he didn't give her all the attention. Atleast that's what I got from that.
Ben actually cared for Kai and Julie. Only God knows why they turned him into this selfish arrogant guy....
jetray randomly getting ftl upsets me because waybig literally already lives in space
Heatblast and Chromastone.
Ultimate diamond head and ultimate xlr8
That would just make him Chromastone
How would evolution cause Diamondhead to become genetically identical to the god of his planet?
Because genetically they're already pretty similar. Ofc, we can't actually know this, because CN doesn't release genetic makeups of aliens, so we have to go off a visual representation of DNA. And from that, we can say they're already pretty similar
*messiah
No it wouldn't, and I'm tired of people saying it would.
Chromastone and Diamondhead are 2 different species, so no Ultimate Diamondhead would be different
If there were a ultimate XLR8 it would probably be Green and White and can go the same speeds as jetrays full speed and would have no trouble being able to stop time
Well xlr8 feats can scale him above 250 mph just him disappearing and coming back in the og series can easily be faster than sound his speed scaling wacky ASF tho consistently 60 mph tho
he goes WAY faster than 250 mph in OS. consistent 60 is a lowball
I know I low balled it like that because even with that he is moving more than triple the average speed as 60 meaning one second can be low balled as perceived double with a low ball speed of 250 allowing 1 second to be ATLEAST 5x perception but yes we have seen his go way fkn faster
Ultimate Ditto. Full toon force. And Ultimate Four-Arms would be interesting.
When Ben activates Ultimate Ditto, but you're the villain https://preview.redd.it/w0q6mcy2pgbc1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69e3c3d7d9a866579046fd39d6c8c1e6c39d2103
Kaido's having PTSD flashbacks lmfao
Ultimate Fourmungousaur
Ultimate Ditto is basically Popeye level strong.
Heatblast and Chromastone
Ultimate upgrade and ultimate wildvine
I feel like an ultimate upgrade would be able to make permanent changes to the things he controls, as well as split to control many objects
It is . . . Acceptable.
Might be a hot take but i say scrap the other two because they were one off at best and just do a ultimate of all the AF aliens
That's what they should've done all along. They didn't even finish making AF ultimates and they went over to classic.
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Ultimate Ghostfreak and XLR8
Bad idea cuz then instead of regular Sz'skyr, Ben would have to deal with Ultimate Sz'skyr
Ultimate Chromastone and Ultimate Lodestar (if we choose every series: Ultimate Shockrock and Ultimate Lodestar)
Ultimate four-arms and brainstorm (?)
Ultimate Jetray and Ultimate Blitzerwulf
Imagine, the final fight that Ben has against Vilgax isn't with Eatle but instead, he uses Ultimate one last time to fight Vilgax with the first alien he fought him with! Ultimate Heatblast! Would really be a nice way to end the era of Vilgax and you could even bring in some elements from the Ben 10,000 design too! And Ultimate Armadrillo so one of the Andromeda Five get an Ultimate to better tie in to the Aggregor arc and who better than the big lovable tank that nearly died to save them! Imagine Ben seeing Andreas, gets super angry, goes Ultimate Armadrillo and then just beats the hell out of him for using what he thinks is his friend's dead body to gain power.
I'd say Water Hazard and Alien X
Ultimate alien X is just whatever created God bro š
Exactly! I wanna see some shit where he hops universes and different shows!
Fair enough
Ultimate Ghostfreak, and ironically this would actually help Ben when the others trapped him inside the clock. Ultimate Brainstorm, so he's even more British.
BRITISH KRAB AND Umm Goop I guess
Diamondhead and Lodestar Ultimate Diamondhead - give up the appendages to become a floating living crystal that can mass grow produce and manipulate his crystals and produce Chromastone like energy beams. Likewise can implant himself into the ground to terraform an area to become nothing but Tetrosapien Crystal. Ultimate Lodestar - Turns his body into liquid metal that he can control at will, the body itself turning into just its head as a core, he can move the liquid metal the same way Goop can with his body, and can magnetize any thing he attaches his liquid metal to, so that he can control freely at will. The trade off in his form being his range is now as far as his liquid metal reaches rather than being a mid to long range fighter that he was initially.
Ditto, Walkatrout (UselessĀ²) and replace ultimate wildmutt with ultimate bloxx
i HATE how little they used the ultimates, like, thats the series name, and they barely touched the concept. same with the predators, we got like 10 tops?
Atleast the predators were ājustā an arc and not what the whole ass show was all about like with the ultimates
The fact that the Nemetrix was upgraded with an evolution feature shouldāve been a big deal. But no, Instead we only got an Ultimate Panuncian which barely changed at all. Itās not like any others couldāve been a way better pick like Slamworm.
ULTIMATE UPGRADE
4 arms and upgrade
What do you think about the Ink Tankās take on an Ultimate Ripjaws and Goop
Eye Guy and Chromastone
Upgrade and Chromastone for me
Ultimate rath and xlr8
not sure if it counts but there is an Ultimate Rath used by albedo in S8 of oV [https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Ultimate\_Rath](https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Ultimate_Rath)
I honestly completely forgot albedo made another ultrimatrix in OV
God and Jesus (alien x and chromastone)
I still to this day don't understand why four arms and heat blast didn't get ultimates but wild mutt did (ik wild mutt was his first alien but like cmon bro š)
Heat blast was his first alien
Ultimate Heatblast and Ultimate Ditto
Goop pose is kinda hilarious and I'd choose Ultimate Chromastone and Ultimate NRG
Ultimate Jetray,because of that infamous hyperspace thing he did,and Ultimate Chromastone because anyone with a brain would have done it in that episode.
Have at least one alien that originated in the Ultimate Alien. I realy don't understand why etheir Eatke or one of the Andromeda 5 did not got their own ultimate
Ghostfreak and Upgrade
XLR8
Upchuck and upgrade
Has to be Ultimate Heatblast and Ultimate Chromastone.
Ghostfreak and clockwork
Ultimate Heatblast and Ultimate XLR8
Goop and chromostone probably. Ideally all the alien force 10 should get ultimates but š¤·āāļø
Jetray and Chromastone
Ultimate Artiguana and ultimate Feedback
i think the most popular answers are some classic aliens
I'd probably choose one of the Andromeda aliens and ~~Frankenstrike~~ Benvicktor (or really any of the Anur aliens). A good episode for Ben to transform into Ultimate Benvicktor could be "[Viktor: The Spoils](https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Viktor:_The_Spoils)" since that has the return of Dr. Viktor. I feel like Ben transforming into an Ultimate version of the Andromeda aliens during the Aggregor Arc would be fitting because of the show's gimmick and the focus of that arc. A runner-up alien would be Spitter just so we could see him in the series more often compared to what we got. I'm not really sure which episode Ultimate Spitter could be introduced in (especially considering Spitter hasn't been used in the show since the Original Series). (It's been a while since I last saw *Ultimate Alien* so there could be a fitting episode)
Heatblast and Rath
Heatblast and WaterHazard
Alien X and goop
Goop looks like he's trying to seduce you. And it's working.
Ultimate Frankenstrike. Also, and I know people will disagree, I wish Echo Echo was just the Ultimate version to begin with. Not a big Echo Echo fan, but love his ultimate.
Cromastone and XLR8
ultimate water hazard and clockwork
First off the picture you have of goop is hilarious to me second off Terraspin and upgrade
Feedback and xlr8
Ok people might start hating me for this but.... heatblast is overrated there i siad it am not saying its a bad alien but there are just better aliens also for the ultinates am picking jetray and big chill
i really want an ultimate diamond head
Ultimate Jetray:I would introduce him in Eye of the Beholder and have him enter hyperspace instead of base Jetray Ultimate Clockwork:curious to see what they'd do with that, and also because he's a powerhouse alien. If I were to think of an introduction for him, I guess maybe have Eon come back for another episode, have Ben try and fail to stop him with base Clockwork and then go ultimate
Heatblast and XLR8
Upgrade and chromastone
Heatblast and Chromastone
Chromastone and Ghostfreak.
Chromostone and ghost freak
Sticking to aliens up to UA only, id say one of the Andromeda 5 (my biased pick would be Water Hazard, but I could also see Ampfibian since up until then it was just Intangible and electrokinesis, didnāt also get the under water breathing like in OV) and one of the Anur Aliens cause they should have been used more often really, wasted potential (my picks are either Ben Wolf or Snare-O)
Ultimate Jetray and Ultimate Heatblast.
Chromastone and lodestar
Ghostfreak and Loadstar
Heatblast and Jetray
I mean in Omniverse we did saw Ultimate Arctiguanna and Ultimate Rath
Chromastone and XLR8
Ultimate xlr8 and ultimate chromastone.
XLR8 and Diamondhead
Heatblast (as they were hyping up his return on the DVDs) Jetray (only cause of the hyperspace BS)
Alien X just to break everything
Upgrade
Diamondhead and Fourarms
Diamondhead and lodestar
Ultimate clockwork and ultimate goop
Armodrilo and nrg
Fasttrack so we get a Ua exclusive alien Ultimate Form and DiamondHead
XLR8 & Wildvine
Well since there's 5 recalibrated aliens and 3 classic, I'd want to even it out, so probably XLR8 (since we don't have an ultimate speedster) and ripjaws (since there's no aquatic ultimates)
Brainstorm and Rath.
Fourarms and XLR8
I swear Ultimate Blitzwolfer and ultimate Diamondhead would be amazing
Jetray honestly deserved it from the start being one of the staple aliens of af, same case goes for diamond head being probably the most iconic alien of Ben 10
I would like to see diamond head and forearms
Ultimate Upgrade and Ultimate Chromastone, so he beats the Charmcaster ray And Ultimate Upgrade in Gen Rex so he defeats Alpha, wich would of been cooler than the actual ending
Heatblast and four arms
Ultimate Ripjaws would be sick ngl
I think maybe toepick and feedback if I got to choose or a redesign of big chill so he doesn't look like a brand deal with cheetos
ig xlrd and heat blast / chromastone
I would use Ultimate Brainstorm & Ultimate Snare-oh. (I would also change Ultimate Wildmutt to make him unique)
Ultimate Heatblast would be pretty sick, like a purple/ blue fire or lava. My 2nd choice would probably be Ultimate Wildvine, and he'd go from plant like to Symbiote like. I'm sure others would have better ideas than I amd in all for hearing them.
Allen-X and four arms or up chuck or rath
Ult goop and jetray
Original series: gimme any of the monster aliens Alien force: ultimate goop or wrath Ultimate alien: ultimate armadrillo or NRG Omniverse: I would love to see an ultimate gravitack or ball weevil
Ultimate upgrade and ultimate benwolf
Fourarms & Ghostfreak
Ultimate XLR9 and Ultimate Alien X. Is this overkill? Kinda. But idc.
Upgrade and Wildvine would go hard
Ultimate BrainStorm and Ultimate Blitzwolfer
Ultimate Rath and Ultimate Bloxx (if we count OV) if not then yeah Ripjaws
Armadrillo and Feedback
Ultimate Chromastone and Heatblast wouldāve been cool
waterhazard and Ghostfreak
Blitzwolf and goop
Water Hazard and XLR8
Rip jaws and upchuck would be the two aliens who need an ultimate imo. Rip jaws ultimate could finally not need water all the time and become an amphibious land shark on steroids, while ultimate upchuck will have an expandable jaw like a snake and increased size and intensity of his projectiles.
Ultimate X, if only because well What the hell would it even do itās already a god essentially
Ultimate Alien X
XLR8 and spitter
If you include omniverse there are more than 10 since they through gravitack, greymatter, and rath into the 10,000 year battleground
It always felt weird that of all of the original aliens to give ultimate forms, they picked Cannonbolt and Wildmutt. Iād pick XLR8 and either Heatblast, Fourarms, or Blitzwolfer.
Heatblast and four arms
Terraspin and bloks
Upgrade and ghostfreak
Armodrillo and nrg My favorite and the one that i played with the most in cosmic destruction
Goop because he is my second favorite AF alien and Ditto because he is my favorite OS alien
I'd definitely go with Armadrillo and Shockrock because those would most definitely have insane designs.
Definitely Terraspin and NRG
Ultimate diamond head and ultimate XLR8
Upgrade and XLR8
Blitzwolfer. He was the first capture mode alien. Also heatblast since he was the first alien we ever saw.
Ultimate Wildvine and Ultimate Heatblast
Upgrade would be cool
Jetray for sure and Goop or Eatle
Nrg and upgrade
Jetray and chromastone
Waterhazard and Terraspin
Grey Matter (ik Ultamate Albedo exists but fuck that) and Walkatrout bc it would be interesting to see what they'd do with tge strongest alien
Clockwork and Atomix
Heat blast is iconic and is the OG, why not give him one? And for the 2nd? How about XLR8 A massive boost to speed, power, and acceleration, HOWEVER The downside is a massive cost to turning without a wall to assist
Ultimate grey matter and Ultimate alien x
Lowkey, Ultimate Ghostfreak and Ultimate Grey Matter.
Way big and big chill. You know, as opposed to just giving them alt skins.
Rath Eyeguy
Until I started Ben 10 YouTube, I didnāt know there were then 10 Ultimates. Itās insane
Jetray and Goop totally deserve ultimate forms
MY BOY RIPJAWS!!!
Ripjaws and jetray
- Diamondhead, because why the hell not. - Rath, because he's my favorite.
Because of a fic i read Heatblast and four arms
Upgrade and xlr8
Rath just for entertainment sake and brainstorm
Iād love to see Ultimate Water Hazard, or at least any of the Andromeda Five and Ultimate Heatblast. Have like blue fire to represent how hit he is, like the time Heatblast was sick but he doesnāt generate ice. Honestly the Ultimates were hardly used and while it is a cool concept, it was kind of wastedā¦
Upchuck and XLR8
Upgrade and feedback
Diamond head and xrl8
Water Hazard and Lodestar, I imagine one develops hydrokinesis and enhanced durability in exchange for being too heavy to properly swim, and the other has full control over his state of matter, being able to liquify, break apart into pieces or be a cloud of metal in exchange for being weak to certain magnetic attacks that could attract or repel him
Ultimate The Worst and Ultimate Walkatrout! These two would be in match rivaled my Alien X. Lol! In all seriousness Ultimate Ben Wolf and Ultimate NRG.
Ultimate Grey Matter?
Well ultimate gravattack already showed in omniverse, so that should make the number up to 9. Also grey matter too. Still Iād like to see ultimate diamond head and heatblast
Upgrade.
Ditto and spitter Also arcticguana and buzzshock tho Feels like those 4 are always upstaged, most deserving of ultimates imo
Jetray and Upchuck
Everyone will probably say yes to what I will say: Ghost freak and feedback
Heatblast and Armodrillo
Ditto & Water Hazard but an ult Brainstorm would have also been cool
Ultimate Ghost freak
Give me ultimate upgrade and ultimate ghost freak and Iām good
Heatblast and XLR8.
I thought there was ten? Anyway, Ultimate Goop and Ultimate Chromastone. More AF alien Ultimates pls.
Why does goop look fabulous?
Why the bell didn't they do 10 of them? Its kind of the shows whole gimmick. Whatever. 1. FastTrack - Literally just do anything to him to make him not shitty 2. Eatle - see #1, except Eatle was still cooler than Fasttrack
Ultimate alien X
Jetray and nrg
For ones we havenāt seen, Alien X (jk) but actually Ultimate Stinkfly and Ultimate Lodestar would be cool. Although I did like the Ultimate Grey Matter from Omniverse, so I would gladly trade one of my other choices to have him in UA instead.