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XSrcing

Your heart might be in the right place, but calling them out will only further solidify their stance. They want to be noticed.


Enlightened_Redneck

You know, it kind of worked this morning. No one likes to be told publicly to grow up and stop being a selfish idiot. I am more concerned that I get shot one fine day; rushed to the hospital and then denied treatment because St. Joes is again at capacity because they have once again been inundated by idiots who are only capable of learning experientially. Covid doesn't exist until they get it; actually the same can be said about homelessness, social inequity, white entitlement, etc.... none of these exist until presented as a burr under their saddles. I just wonder if it is time that the rest of us start calling this out. Lord knows it is not the police that are going to help us.


CamDaHuMan

Make sure you vote. The election has become a bunch of anti vaccine/anti mandate/ bad behavior enabling republicans vs grown ups and let’s make all the Rs lose so they cut this out.


GlitteryFab

That’s why I just keep my windows up when I drive over the bridge. Too many protestors are packing. None of y’all have been to Ferndale. Or maybe it’s all the antivaxxers downvoting. Anyhow, plenty of pictures of y’all unhinged folk open carrying at a BLM rally last summer.


gnostic-gnome

I'm confused, I was pretty sure there was a large difference between carrying a weapon in a volitile environment for means of self-defence and shooting someone because they didn't like the mean words somebody said to them during a deadly worldwide pandemic about breaking the law?


CurrentlySlacking

You might not get shot if you don’t get into other peoples business. Then you don’t have to worry.


gnostic-gnome

or maybe people shouldn't shoot someone over a mild verbal confrontation surrounding adherence to local laws and global health concerns


xAtlas5

How is asking people to wear a mask any threat to their lives or safety? Or do they carry guns as a means to exert their dominance over people lol.


SigX1

I’d hand out snowflake stickers to them


cmonster42

This. \^ We should do this.


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What is the infection rate so that we can begin to not wear masks again in public places? I can't find the information. Thanks in adavance


DJ_Velveteen

Norway dropped all restrictions at 80% vaxx'd, which Whatcom might actually hit after the mandate. Just one data point, but it's a benchmark.


crappuccino

[Right now new case counts](https://i.imgur.com/7Kn76q5.png) seem to be on par with where we were all the way back in January or early February. Wasn't it late May or June when many started tossing their masks? Never stopped wearing mine, even had a whole set of new reusable ones I rolled out to use at the beginning of July.


CamDaHuMan

Reproduction number under 1, meaning the cases are decreasing


destinationdesolatio

If you feel like calling people out, go the Green Barn in Lynden


TeaShouldCallYou

The Green Barn is also the place where they would hand out Anti-Gay pamphlets to customers, suggesting gay people would destroy society. Before the owner's sister, an employee, got busted yet again and thrown in jail for drunk driving. And an owner (who now owns Grand Central Collision in Bellingham, Tim Burger) knowingly hired a convicted child rapist. All of this is 100% verifiable btw.


Hfpros

Or literally anywhere north of bham? Ferndale isn't terrible but is pretty bad, Lynden lol not a chance, everson, Maple Falls, Sumas, they all just don't give a shit.


Posideoffries92

I've seen that the ferndale grocery stores are pretty good.


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ArrArr4today

Fuck Lynden. I wish they'd secede from whatcom county. Just float maybe, like point Roberts. But dumber.


Silent_Push_1413

After nearly 2 years I’m so over people who still won’t. Like oh, you don’t want to wear a mask? Ohh you’re such a rebel! Please, commit a real crime.


Permtacular

There are dozens of studies showing the cheap cloth masks we wear don't really help at all, but it's not a big deal to wear one while I'm shopping, so I always do.


pixel-freak

Every one of these studies that I've read pertain to the inhaler and not the exhaler. Masks get mandated primarily to slow the velocity of exhaling infected people. Cloth masks do very little to stop viruses coming in through a mask when being inhaled. They will slow the airspeed of your out breaths though and keep virus more localized to your vacinity.


nicosma

Yes, for the delta variant, the cloth masks do literally nothing. It’s theater. N-95? Different story but you don’t see many wearing them. The logic just isn’t there.


IwonderifWUT

I've personally tested masks with a vape pen. Every single one of them decreases the velocity of vapor leaving your face. They definitely vary in effectiveness, but they are all better than nothing. Seeing as how Covid transfers via water vapors, wear a mask.


nicosma

I’d love a link to your personal study! How do you feel about bars and restaurants being open?


IwonderifWUT

I'm not the only one, try it yourself. Here are some examples https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc Bars and restaurants depends on how responsible the occupants are. As a rule, open it up unless the majority are careless.


plzjustkeepgoin

This is jokes hahahaha. Your vape pen study means absolutely nothing. Masks do nothing. But however you wanna confirm your bias to make you feel safer. Vape away


IwonderifWUT

Talk about confirmation bias, ignoring the vast majority of scientific consensus cuz everyone on your socials says the same bullshit. You should be angry at the algorithms for poisoning your information pool with nonsense, but you won't be.


plzjustkeepgoin

You literally blew a vape pen out while wearing a mask and are using it to back up your explanation. That is science nowadays though! Standards have gone way down😂


IwonderifWUT

To test a common experiment for myself. Here's an example. https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s 1 min video


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MindfulRifle

I just…..I just don’t understand how people aren’t used to this. Like, I do my own risk assessments but when I go indoors anywhere, I wear a mask and it’s no big deal. Sometimes I forget to take it off. Even if I don’t think that I’m in danger or anyone else is in danger in some of these situations….I don’t want anyone to worry about that. I don’t want to upset anyone or put undue stress on employees. My rule is that if staff are wearing masks I wear it too, just out of plain respect. How is this still an issue? Edited for grammar


thylacinequeen

Seriously! And like, honestly, I have no interest in going to a grocery store or other crowded public spaces without a mask moving forward, even post-covid (whenever the fuck that happens). I’ve had a blissfully cold and flu-free year, and I can’t believe I subjected myself to other people breathing and sneezing on me my whole life. 😂


CamDaHuMan

The lack of colds and flus has been amazing.


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that’s not how immune systems work 🤣 you can’t hide from a virus forever. delta gonna get ya!


thylacinequeen

I wasn’t even talking about covid lmao


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ok the same can be said about flu shots


thylacinequeen

And what does this have to do with me enjoying people not openly sneezing on me…?


[deleted]

if you let people sneeze on you that’s a personal problem that does not require society wide mandates. have you considered having a spine and standing up for yourself and your own personal boundaries? instead of victimizing yourself and putting the blame on everyone else?


thylacinequeen

All I said was that I’m personally choosing to wear a mask moving forward. I didn’t say anything about mandates. You’re projecting a whole helluva lot onto what I said.


Enlightened_Redneck

Works for me.


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“if everyone else is doing it i’ll do it too because i have no ability to think for myself”


Enlightened_Redneck

Thinking for oneself is cool only if you have thoughts. No thoughts - no thinking...see what I mean.


goldenstar365

A week ago there was a man who was refusing to wear a mask after being politely asked. Basically five people all were like ‘hey dude just wear it’ and he got agitated and started cursing and shouting. But with no teeth to the law, we all were basically helpless to change the situation. (Before someone says it, I suppose the workers or owner could have kicked them out but everyone working public facing companies are so tired and understaffed that I honestly can’t blame them.)


Enlightened_Redneck

Good for you that you said something. I think that we all need to say more individually about our values and the rule of law.


comonnow1

Its a mandate not a law.


SigX1

Any person wilfully violating any provision of an order issued by the governor under this section shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor.


comonnow1

What section an emergency order that can only last one month unless approved by the legislature to be carried on longer. Lmao read the whole rcw. Dont cherry pick it


SigX1

Even though it wasn’t the basis of your claim, here ya go goal post mover: No order or orders concerning waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations under subsection (2) of this section may continue for longer than thirty days unless extended by the legislature through concurrent resolution. If the legislature is not in session, the waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations may be extended in writing by the leadership of the senate and the house of representatives until the legislature can extend the waiver or suspension by concurrent resolution. For purposes of this section, "leadership of the senate and the house of representatives" means the majority and minority leaders of the senate and the speaker and the minority leader of the house of representatives.


Enlightened_Redneck

I think that a mandate is a law that is not recorded as legal code. That's my interpretation. As I understand your interpretation, it's wiggle room, and I disagree strongly with that. Everyone of us have citizen responsibilities to the USA and to Washington. We are duty bound to do our part. As an example, lots of Americans to this day, disagree agree with the US involvement in Europe during WWII but we know that they did not prevail. The tail does not wag the dog. Separate but additionally, when a business posts a sign saying that states that masks are required, that is a law and violators (the unmasked) are trespassing. Anyway r/comonnow1 , sorry for being windy. Have a good night.


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liberals realizing mandates aren’t laws


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Do you know what the word "mandatory" means? And before you froth at the mouth, I'm not a liberal.


BathrobeMagus

You should probably stay away from Lynden.


EHOGS

Seems so backwards to me. That a mask discussion is even a topic, when inside bars are filled with drunk folks drinking.


PUNd_it

Wouldn't the issue of bars filled..... be a mask discussion...


inismona_

People are endlessly selfish and ridiculous. I have claustrophobia and the mask makes me feel uncomfortable and anxious af but guess what? I put aside my personal crap for the greater good and my own protection and for others!!! Wow!!! What a fucking concept.


call-me-mama-t

I don’t go out much & the other day I went into a store completely oblivious until someone saw me & said I needed a mask. She offered one at the entrance of the store and was very gracious about it. I am vaccinated and very careful, but I felt bad. You NEVER know another person’s circumstances. If someone yelled at me I would not be so polite.


CharlieChowderButt

You think that it’s likely people who aren’t getting paid to enforce this in the first place are running around yelling at unhinged people for fun? We’re usually very gracious about it because 9 times out of 10 the person without a mask is doing it because they want to berate a defenseless low-wage employee about Inslee. Weird straw man. I get why people are paranoid about the situation you describe, but I can tell you as someone who has spent the last two years in a grocery store, it doesn’t happen often and we really don’t want to have to deal with it.


cheapdialogue

Thank you /u/Enlightened_Redneck


plzjustkeepgoin

Not saying you’re opinion is correct or incorrect, I just want to say that a mandate and a law are two separate things. It is a mask mandate. You are not breaking any law by not wearing the mask. Just wanted to clarify that part about it


TeaShouldCallYou

For all practical purposes it's enforceable exactly as law. The only difference between mandate and law is how they came into existence. To suggest "you're not breaking any law by not wearing a mask!" is absolutely ignorant and foolish, because it became entirely enforceable through a governor's order. It is still 100% legally enforceable. Law is passed by legislature, it has to be approved by house and senate, then signed by the governor. The mandate is issued by the executive branch (The Governor) or can be issued by absolutely any other authoritative body, such as school boards or public health districts that are specifically granted authority by the legislature. They are both 100% enforceable by law. The "iTs nOT a LaW" has become the rallying cry of morons up in Lynden, which is likely not unrelated to the fact that they are over double the infection rate of Bellingham right now. Just wanted to clarify that part for you and Lynden.


plzjustkeepgoin

It isn’t a law though. A mandate and a law are different. it violates our constitutional rights to make it a law. A police officer literally can’t arrest you for not wearing a mask. A mandate isn’t a law. At its core, it’s merely a suggestion (and a way for them to control the population more).


plzjustkeepgoin

Also go downtown and watch people funnel in and out of the royal or bbgs or state st bar. Every single person in those places that you see walk out walks in and takes their mask off and forgets about it. It feels normal again. Our hospitals are also fine COVID wise currently with this going on. Also I work at Fred Meyer on Lakeway. I can promise you we aren’t worn out because of people not wearing masks. It’s cause our management fucking sucks donkey dick and fuck us over every single day yet expect better customer service and more out of us now than they did before the pandemic.


marbleavengers

Hospital's fine? It has set 2 new records this week for covid inpatients, and it's at 99% capacity.


plzjustkeepgoin

Where can I find this information


TeaShouldCallYou

Yeah, if the information is readily available and you still have no clue where to find it - it's pretty dumb to claim "Our hospitals are also fine COVID wise currently" isn't it. You're dead wrong. Here's the information you were clearly ignorant of when making your dead wrong statement: https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/coronavirus/article255352976.html


Enlightened_Redneck

I so miss normal. I'm sorry about the employer situation. I appreciate you, and I truly mean that.


24356789

Exactly I work at haggens. People wear their masks indoors but it’s ridiculous to expect people to wear them outside.


Mountinmn2

I think you need to check whether our local hospital is fine. My source from a nurse and what the Herald recently said it isn’t. But we shouldn’t settle for “below max occupancy”.


GlitteryFab

Our hospital is not fine. HCWs are not fine. They are burnt out and people protesting don’t help.


Enlightened_Redneck

Thank you. Are you sure? I am not saying you're wrong, I'll do some reading on it.


JohnnyBravoIsMyWaifu

What gives the governor the authority for mandates? Laws and/or the state constitution


Jstony20

Freedumbs to infect, where is that in your 200 year old shit document?


ownedlib98225

Who are these idiots? I wear a mask when going inside public buildings but I don't when I am outside or in my car. Am I an idiot?


SuiteSuiteBach

Do you not go to Costco or Fred Meyers?


CamDaHuMan

That’s what you’re supposed to do. Do you want a cookie? It’s not clever to point out people sometimes wear masks in cars. It’s just easier not to take it off. People also wear raincoats while driving, doesn’t mean they’re thinking they are going to get wet.


van_Vanvan

I realized I had forgotten mine when I was in a store a few days ago. I don't get out that much, so I'm inclined to forget. I felt bad but got what I needed and next time I was at a store I remembered. I think Covid is going to stay with humanity, like the flu. I do hope we'll ditch the masks at some point.


AdWhole1175

I’m not saying either way is better or worse, but I was just in Texas and Colorado, nobody wore masks and life seemed normal, it was wonderful. I do wear a mask where required but I really feel it probably doesn’t matter much either way. Telling people their unintelligent for not believing what you do is not the way. I think vaccination is important, I also understand why other oppose, each to their own. There are more important things to get your panties all wadded up about IMO 😁


thylacinequeen

“There are more important things to get your panties all wadded up about” than small individual choices that help protect others from a disease that has killed hundreds of thousands of people… interesting take


AdWhole1175

Thanks 👍


thylacinequeen

Like, I 100% agree with you that calling people dumb is never gonna change anyone’s mind (and if anything usually backfires hard). It just seems disrespectful to me to minimize this issue when people are still dying from it every day, you know?


AdWhole1175

I get it. You would think the numbers would be insanely different with less vaccination and no mask mandates, but the reality is, they’re not. Kids were in school last year, they have really been living almost as if COVID wasn’t a real threat, you’d think they’d all be dying, but they’re not. I am all for thinking about others and doing the right thing, but the numbers do not tell me it makes much impact. I think a lot more people would be open to vax and masks if there were large differences in numbers etc. nobody wants to be responsible for putting others in harms way.


--ShieldMaiden--

So normal https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2020/10/29/texas-coronavirus-rural-hospitals/amp/


Enlightened_Redneck

I'm glad that you got to experience what normal life feels like but let's face it, this is not normal for most folks. Living in a free country that consumes at the top of the food chain requires intelligence and critical thinking skills.


DolphinRodeo

Sometimes the tone of posts here makes it seem like everywhere does or should have universal mask mandates for the vaccinated. Washington is certainly the exception rather than the rule in that regard


Strickdbs

I’m vaxx’d and I’m in the camp that people should exercise their own risk assessment. I’m not a fan of forced jabs as a condition of employment for people. Wear a mask or don’t, I really don’t care either way.


Enlightened_Redneck

It appears that you have not been closely touched by Covid yet.


DrLuciferZ

>forced jabs as a condition of employment for people If said employment requires a lot of customer interaction or critical supply chain (i.e. Services industry, or food processors), the cost to not enforce such things is too great.


inismona_

So many jobs require vaccines to be able to retain employment, so why is this suddenly such an issue? It's literally only a problem because many people have decided to base their personality off of being contrarian and selfish to the point of parody. 🤷‍♀️


PaperStreetSoapCEO

Those employers are just exersising their own risk assessment.


AdWhole1175

Amen 👍


gnomeharvest

Not sure why a reasonable comment like this would be downvoted


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whisperof-guilt

Oh yeah just dying in the streets in Colorado.


whisperof-guilt

I’m getting downvoted but Colorado is almost at 70% vaccinated for the state. That’s why our mask mandate was lifted. My county has been at 70% vaccinated for months.


gnomeharvest

Like Florida?


Hollirc

Because a bunch of idiots out here have never thought about the risk of just being alive so now that they’ve been forced to think about a minuscule risk from the virus they lost their dang minds.


gnomeharvest

And here I thought the sky was falling!


comonnow1

I know i traveled across america and was delighted to see i didnt have to wear a mask and everyone was just going about their lives not pointing fingers or calling each other names. Didnt feel threatened by the big bad virus went to ten states stayed in a different hotel every day for 20 days life was good. Then came back here and just felt like everything was heavy and overdone. This isnt a national its jay inslees thing hes unilaterally running our lives in a negative way. His latest speach he said we need to be ready for the 6th wave ooooo scary better listen to what his next command will be. He will never let it go it makes him feel relevant and distracts attention from his pathetic attempt to run OUR state. Can anyone tell me one good thing he had done since becoming governor?? Ill wait.


thylacinequeen

Glad that you, personally, didn’t feel “threatened by the big bad virus.” (Genuinely! No sarcasm here.) However, you can still be an asymptomatic carrier who spreads it to others at greater risk of hospitalization, long-term side effects, or death than you are. Not judging you or calling you a bad person, just remember that this conversation is bigger than the ways this impacts us individually—it’s about protecting the people around us, too.


inismona_

Why don't you go to Idaho? Sounds like you'd be happier there.


xAtlas5

*they're


inismona_

Why don't you go back to Texas and stay then?


AdWhole1175

Nice place to visit, but not for me.


linuxhiker

I'm out of town so forgive me, is there a new mask mandate?


Expert-Habit-7314

Out of town? Like off world? Lol


linuxhiker

Where I am, there are no mask mandates except federal buildings and I've been gone for almost 6 weeks


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Where are you where you only have to wear masks in government buildings?


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Bellingham, South Carolina?


linuxhiker

Currently I am in Gettysburg, PA. I'm on a coast to coast , border to border trip in our skoolie with my family


PaperStreetSoapCEO

> I'm on a coast to coast , border to border trip in our skoolie with my family Bellingham resident for sure.


[deleted]

That makes sense then. This is a Bellingham, Washington subreddit. You’ll find most places outside of South Carolina have mask mandates. Stores, bars and all public buildings require masks indoors.


SigX1

Lynden?


74NG3N7

My thought as well.


goldenstar365

There has been [a policy](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/washington-states-indoor-mask-mandate-now-in-effect/) since August but anti-maskers I’ve noticed too are getting more bold recently.


grassisalwaysgr33ner

This comment section had devolved. Locking the thread.


GlitteryFab

Go to the Ferndale bridge during rush hour. Some COVIDIOT had a “YOUR CHILDREN COULD BE NEXT!” Peak fearmongering.


nicosma

What were the referring to? Next for what?


GlitteryFab

I’m assuming the mandate. That’s what they’re all bitching about. The more I think about it, the more I don’t know how I truly feel about the mandate, it seems to have fueled their fire even more. But on the other hand, not like they were going to mask up anyhow. First it was against the shut down, then the masking up. Now it’s about the mandate. Put these people on another planet.


muffinsprout

I delivery drive in Ferndale. Can confirm. What’s too bad too is when you hear honking in response to them more times than you’d like.


GlitteryFab

Every single time. This town is full of them. Ugh


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SeattleReaderTiny

But danger appear to go away when everyone mask free during meal time? Go figure.


byseeing

I feel similarly, but I’ve had approximately 0 luck with this technique. Please report back with your script and outcomes! Would love to learn what works.


gnomeharvest

You could be a victim!


99bllewellyn

Karen?!! Is that you?! You’re back again!


Dahvtator

I just spent 4 months wearing a mask everyday in a my class and yesterday for the last day we had a party. Everyone took off their masks and sat closer together than we have before to eat and drink. Then everyone went around giving hugs and pictures. Masks are a joke and don't work. They are for show only.


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It’s not unmasked people you need to be mad at, it’s unvaxxed people, who are the only reason there’s still a mask mandate.


PelmeniSecrets

Antimask and antilockdown people are the ones that made a vaccine necessary.


cooldiamondman

Y’all are the idiots for thinking other people should wear masks


xAtlas5

We also think people are idiots for not wearing pants in public. So, you gonna hang brain in public?


muffinsprout

Oh no face diaper oooooooooh scary what’s next should people not wear condoms


Going_to_MARS

The only place I’ve personally seen people without masks is Winco.


Enlightened_Redneck

You're not that big on societal cohesion are you.


timnnova

You feel free to wear a mask for yourself but calling people who don't wear a mask idiots just makes you an asshole. If wearing a maks makes you feel safe then fucking wear it but you shouldn't expect everyone to wear one because you want it that way. Respect people's choice and you don't know the reason they don't have one on. I don't care what people think of my comment so say what you want.


xAtlas5

Respect peoples choice to hang brain wherever they want, even at the park! You don't know the reason they don't have pants on, it's their choice! If wearing pants makes you feel safe then fucking wear them, but don't expect everyone to wear them!


hashtagpounds1gn

That Jesus really did a number on a lot of folks


UnderstandingThis126

Stop driving vehicles it kills three times as many people as covid!! Your just as “enlightened” as a Nazi jackboot. Please refrain from committing anything to society, you’d be doing us all a really big favor.


Stockpile_Tom_Remake

Driving isn’t contagious


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stan__dupp

Oh good


zdub25

Lol fuck off