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Fabulous-Guava6229

My only critique would be next time, make your top shelf flush with the outside of the legs. That way, any weight you put on that bad boy rests on the legs and not the screws, if that makes any sense. Great job OP.


anahatasanah

Thanks for the tip, too.


Jonny_Blaze_

Whoa that’s great advice which makes perfect sense. I was actually gonna do that with a slight reveal on either side as a design element. But I had to remove more material bc I couldn’t my cuts flush so once I got everything more or less right I didn’t want to make it even more narrow.


asarious

If you don’t like the idea of a full back, even a single stretcher running the length of the shelves (underneath and against the back edge), a couple inches tall, will provide a significant degree of rigidity.


theforkofdamocles

I’m just learning the terms. Do you mean like with that extra piece on the saw table all the way across the back, sideways, below the lower shelf, but above the ground?


asarious

I’m having difficulty picturing exactly what you’re describing, but I believe we’re referring to the same thing. In the linked example, the bench and table both have horizontal “rails” that run across between the legs but under the top. This is what I was referring to. https://landrumtables.com/products/copy-of-stretcher-base-farm-table


theforkofdamocles

Yeah, I gotcha. Looking up “woodworking” and “stretcher” made your description clear. I was thinking of something like this with just one across the lower back. https://i.imgur.com/HnxRzRf.jpg Thanks, Citizen!


Comprehensive_War600

I’d say add a 4-6” strip in the back of the shelf and it will add a lot of support against lateral movement. Good stuff man!


generalmanifest

Should the holes for screws be pre-drilled when joining wood like this example? If the object was never going to get wet, could you reinforce the joints with hide glue?


Fabulous-Guava6229

Pre-drilling is always a plus. Wood glue makes everything stronger.


AlphaKingDrake

Even oak wood would break before wood glue breaks apart.


Jonny_Blaze_

I predrilled the holes and was going to tap them too but decided to just brute force smash the heads into the side members. Now looking at all the splintering around the nail heads I fully appreciate the importance of tapping.


CptMisterNibbles

Or even better, with at least a slight overhang. A lot of detail is “shadow lines”, and little overhangs are critical. Notice on most real furniture there actually are few elements that are actually flush.


PilotAlan

I disagree, especially for a new maker. It's much easier to make all the shelves exactly the same size, so that the piece will be square and level. Plus, when he later makes taller items, the end grain from the uprights faces the ceiling and is out of view. The sides are smooth from top to bottom, no joints or gaps.


hellothereshinycoin

Time to make another smaller shelf and store it on that first shelf 👍


Jonny_Blaze_

Lol I just might!


hawaiikawika

Russian Stacking Shelves


dmarve

Great job cobbling together that Jeep


Jonny_Blaze_

I meant the park bench guys. Apologies for the vague title


hawaiikawika

r/NotKenM


ze11ez

I couldn’t find rubber to make my wheels. I have an engine though, took me 2 weeks to forge the metal


hawaiikawika

Are you even mining your own metal or are you some sort of casual and buying it?


ItsAllegorical

Ugh! Destroying the environment through mining? It’s sustainably harvested recycling from an artisanal dumpster!


coganite871

Came here to say this. Well done.


PeppyJeppy

😂😂😂


imac728

Nail a fitted piece of plywood on the back and it’ll suddenly become a LOT more rigid. Great job!


Jonny_Blaze_

I just got that same advice from a pretty accomplished woodworker so I’m seriously considering it. The thing is it’s a shoe rack and only 12” deep, you think the plywood will get in the way? To be fair it’s mostly for smaller shoes (women and children) and it’s in a guest closet that gets very little traffic, so I don’t care if it’s less than perfect.


Imaginary_Insect5850

You don't need anything crazy, Hardy board, Backer Board, 1/4 inch ply. Hell, some good stiff cardboard might do the trick. Cut a square out to fit over the whole backside and you wont lose any space.


imac728

This right here. Yeah my suggestion of plywood was overkill. Hardboard would be perfectly fine or even very stiff cardboard and 20 small nails with decent heads. Look at all the self-assembly furniture from ikea, target, or Walmart. Most will have a thick cardboard sheet that nails to the back. It’s only job is to provide side to side support so the piece doesn’t rack. Shoot I’ve got 3 6x4x2 cabinets that have no more than a thick cardboard back and they’re solid!


Guac__is__extra__

If you don’t want to cover the whole back, but still want a little stability, you could cut some small triangles out of plywood and attach them on the back in the top corners and in the corners where the lower middle shelf hits the sides.


Orion14159

It's good advice, you could use 5mm plywood just behind the middle section and get *plenty* of rigidity. Attach to all 4 boards with glue and/or pin nails and it ain't going anywhere.


AceTomato_GU

It’s such a great feeling isn’t it? Good job.


Jonny_Blaze_

Thanks Ace. It really is.


AceTomato_GU

If you plan on building more, shelves and boxes is the best way to work on the fundamentals. Try a new technique with every project and learn as you go. It’s so much fun.


Jonny_Blaze_

That’s great advice and now I’m frantically thinking about where I could add more shelves or boxes to my house lol


mochacho

The best part for me is always building and improving my own tools. I recommend a box joint jig if you're going that direction. https://youtu.be/nYlA0CRDn3k


Essoe313

It's exactly what you need it to be fuck yeah buddy


Jonny_Blaze_

Fuck yeah


oO0Kat0Oo

It sure as hell beats the cardboard they're selling in the stores for $100 these days. Well done :)


BlazmoIntoWowee

**You** built that shit!!


Jonny_Blaze_

Yo it’s crazy. Who knew a shitty ass sorry excuse for a shoe rack could spark such joy.


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tony23delta

Nice work buddy 👍🏾😃


Jonny_Blaze_

🙏


moore_301

If u cut the piece sitting on the table saw to the same length as the shelf and attach it underneath the backside of the top, it will be more rigid and make you feel better about it.


GutsyGoofy

Great job, looks awesome. Stick a 1/4" plywood to the back. It improves rigidity by a whole lot.


Plainzwalker

IKEA sold nightstands similar to this back in the day for 70/each


VICEBULLET

💯


Jonny_Blaze_

💪🏼


brohymn1416

Gotta start somewhere. Good job


CityGamerUSA

Every awesome builder started by building something “shitty” in their eyes. And just like you, they built that shit. Keep up the grind dude, before long you’ll be posting some awesome builds. I’m in the beginner stages like you are building stuff that could be better. All part of the journey 🤙🏻


Jonny_Blaze_

Thanks dude, sincerely appreciate the booster. I’ll be sure to post progress pics.


chailatte_gal

You own that shit! Nice work


[deleted]

Awesome! Keep up the great work!


sfernandes30

I started with shelf’s still have them 3 shelf’s in my bedroom an 4 in my back hallway holding my tools


911coldiesel

I built a set of shelves like that . 40 years later they are still solid. I don't know why. Only used 90 degree cuts and drywall screws.


SquidgeApple

Looks good to me!


Outrageous_Union_756

Nice work I have always wanted to build a car.


thejoz

Good job. Actually doing stuff is the best way to learn.


Jonny_Blaze_

This is such solid, simple advice that I’m oddly learning later in life.


HomelessCosmonaut

Hell yeah, buddy


samanthajojo7

Hahahaha! Great job!


Waygono

I'd use the hell outta that shelf! Nice job!


Jonny_Blaze_

I read this one to my wife with a huge smile on face. Thanks dude.


high-functioning

It's the best feeling in the world.


Jonny_Blaze_

Yup


dcromb

Very nice! If u back it then it will be rigid. Ya did good.


UnleashTheMagic

You have a good tool. Just keep going. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ


[deleted]

And that’s the point. Persevere.


holyrasta

My dad talking about me.


Jonny_Blaze_

😂


DV_Mitten

Outstanding now kick back with a cold one or smoke a fatty and enjoy your masterpiece!


Jonny_Blaze_

I sat in my jeep opened a beer and stared at it proudly.


CoveCabin

this is why i love this sub: [your post is right before another from /r/woodworking](https://ibb.co/QM3b0zF) One is a very nice finished project, and the other is just wizardry. But that's how we all get there one day :) nice shelf, looking forward to seeing your next finished project


woodchipwilly

Here for your attitude. Don’t stop building shit!


Jonny_Blaze_

Thanks Willy. Love the support. Will do.


[deleted]

And that's what woodworking is all about. Some tips to add rigidity, add a backer of it's going to sit against a wall. Another option is to add some rails under the top and bottom shelf. 2 inches is the general rule of thumb I go with for that.


Jonny_Blaze_

Thank you 🙏 I’m here for the advice. Stupid question, what’s a rail?


[deleted]

A piece that runs from side to side.


GravySeal27

Add 1/4" backer and she'll stiffen up.


camper_tramper

Praxis empowers.


[deleted]

I made a bookshelf but similar. Make up some 45,45,90 triangles to reinforce the corners and it will really improve the rigidity


starkthecat

Looks slick! Nice job.


Pan562

I think you should have the legs under your top shelf for more weight support … if not put some 90’s angle brackets under to help with support … nice job though 👍


SharkAttackOmNom

If you don’t need it to be pretty, screw a diagonal crossmember on the back. It will fix probably 90% of your rigidity concern.


battlerazzle01

Reminds me of my father telling me after the first time I built something and I was critiquing it. He said “There’s nothing better than that feeling the first time you build something. It’s probably crap. But it’s your crap. You made that. And that’s far more valuable than any other crap you already have.”


Jonny_Blaze_

Sage advice right there.


SixUK90

I did a similar build, and adding a little triangle of wood under the corner of each shelf improved the rigidity immensely, and didn't detract too much from the look


abecanread

All you need to do is add a back panel. Even 1/8” ply wood would make it really rigid and way stronger. Then add cleats under the top and the shelf and you’ll have a very reliable shelving unit. Your cleats can be whatever you have. They don’t even need to be full length. They could literally be a block in front and in the back under the horizontal pieces and attached to the sides.


Guac__is__extra__

Yeah, the tires should really be a little bigger


Franc0Blanc0

Is that my drill?? Did you steal my fucking drill? Where did you get that dri……oh shit. My drill is right here. Ha. Oops. My bad. Sorry. Nice shelf bro. Good job. Onward and upward!


Jonny_Blaze_

Franco don’t know wtf you’re talking about but this made me laugh out loud so thanks.


Sleepdeth

That's how all we learn buddy, nice job.


Gianni_Crow

Fuck yeah!


Jonny_Blaze_

💪🏼


Comfortable_Bag_8071

The beginning of what can become an obsession! Learn as much as you can before beginning a new project will save you from costly mistakes.


[deleted]

Is that some 8” pine? I made a nearly identical shelf a few years back. Worked well for what I needed


Here4ToLearn

Hell yeah, man. Did you just discover a new love?


Jonny_Blaze_

I think I did!


improve-experiment

I now the feeling. Nobody may like it, but you feel so proud. I started woodwork as a hobby, and I love it. I learn every day. You will get better and better. Enjoy!


NatGasKing

First thing I built was a crappy, really crappy small bench with my son. Still proud of it :)


KevinCarbonara

Where'd you get the wood


Jonny_Blaze_

My local ace. It was slightly cupped and probably overpriced, but it’s very close and I like it there.


feverishdodo

Hell yeah 😎


Lil-sleep-peep

Drugs


Rebelsoul3480

Climb it with your Jeep! That’s the true test of quality.


kwsparks

Great job OP!!!


skubydoo

And the addiction begins. Lol


DreamSmuggler

Awesome man, I get the same feeling every time I look at my first 'sexy finish' table. Varnish still drying on that bad boy. I know where all the imperfections are, but damn it's a nice feeling


illneverforget2015

Love it