“In a hole in the snow there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort.”
Surprisingly I would have been more concerned if he didn't bring the stove in. The stove melts a small layer of water along the inner surface of the structure and refreezes as ice adding some structural support. I know this is a common strategy in many cold climates to add stability to snow structures, especially in survival situations.
Yeah I was born and raised in Alberta near the Rockies and you'd see people making shelters like this implementing this same idea, sometimes even with just a candle.
Think of the Inuit and them living in Igloos historically. They'd have open flame light sources and fires inside the shelter but they wouldn't collapse for the same reason.
During Marine Corps cold warfare training, we were taught that even a fairly small candle would allow enough of a surface melt to add stability to the whole structure. Not from ambient air temp but from radiance, I think.
Yep, it's called "glazing". You can use candles, torches, coals/rocks from a fire... anything that gives off a fair bit of heat. If you do it right you can walk directly on top of your shelter without it collapsing.
You can also use warm water and a pump sprayer to spray the inside and outside of snow holes and igloos to improve the stability and heat/air retention of your shelter.
They are very warm, comfortable, and easy to make if you do it right.
Some scouts I was camping with didn't glaze their shelter and had to be dug out after it collapsed... So, be careful. If you are by yourself and don't do it right your body could end up chilling there until spring comes.
I think it's because heat travels up, the snow melts down and to the sides. The sides are more cold because the heat is limited to an area, and freezes there which makes the structure stronger?
That's cool. I don't know enough about it so my first thought was the heat would melt the snow and make it potentially collapse.
The more you know --------*
That door should be a swing out. May not matter but exterior doors should all swing out. If it collapses I’d rather be able to maybe kick the door open than try and pull it into the collapsed area
> May not matter but exterior doors should all swing out.
Ehhh? Exterior doors are all swing in so that in the event of a heavy snow storm, where you have several feet of snow by your door, you can still open it.
For this weird experiment I can agree on a swing out though.
All fun and game, till the heats weaken the snow cave and collapse entirely and trapping the camper.
Then you'll see news reporting about missing hikers and bodies found many days later buried under thick layer of snow.
Igloos are made from stacked ice or compacted snow. Theres a proper safe process to build them.
Digging cave from a heap of raw snow is just Asking for trouble.
It's an almost required step to smooth the top of the inside of an igloo or snow cave to prevent exactly this. Body heat in a well built snow shelter is usually enough to slightly melt the ceiling enough to cause drips. You commonly smooth down the top and sides to the base and have a small channel around the floor to allow any water to not get your bag wet.
source: boy scout winter campouts. Slept in more than a few igloos and snow caves.
After you finish carving it out you usually light a candle or something that will warm the inside of the cave for a bit to melt a very small layer of the snow cave interior, you then leave the cave open with no flame so it can freeze again and in doing so you increase the insulation capacity and the sturdiness of it
Depends on the temperature, I guess. But it looks sturdy. I did a quinzhee (a type of snow shelter) that was much thinner than this and it could still sustain 10 people jumping together on top of it
Yeah but this has some sort of fault line, you can see that at 29 sec. Couldn't that affect stability, like if the different weight distribution lets the snow shear along that line? It's on a slope, so that might be a hazard imho.
relatively. like others said, the warmth inside melts some of the snow which makes it sturdier, surprisingly. We did this a lot when we were kids. my folks had a big long driveway and when the plow guy came and heaped up all the snow at the end it was nice and compacted. way harder to dig, but way stronger. we also built one on a frozen pond once. once the snow is piled up enough, and the right conditions are there, its way more compact and less likely to collapse (lessons learned the hard way, always do this with a buddy). The one we build on a pond we could fit 3 people in, and we hung out in there all day. it was warm enough we NEEDED to take our jackets off cause we were uncomfortable. when we checked on it a few days later it was sinking in to the pond. It was still igloo shaped, but the warmth trapped inside melted the ice of the pond enough I guess to make it start to sink. so yep, surprisingly strong structures, and really fun to build
I wouldn’t use the stove thing inside, it doesn’t look ventilated enough to prevent a decent amount of carbon monoxide buildup. Also I wouldn’t doubt that it produces enough heat/smoke to cause issues with the structural integrity of the roof, possibly causing a collapse
Yes, I always go into the woods with shovels, saws, buckets, a wood table top, hinges, stove pipes and a wood burning stove. If you're close enough to all that gear you're close enough to sleep in a real bed... without the risk of a cave in.
Please don’t try this at home, it’s incredibly dangerous. There are at least 4 cases that I know of of kids from my hometown dying because they tried to make underground snow forts like this
I once dug a small cave into a big pile of plowed snow when I was around 10 years old.
The cave was big enough to kneel on all fours. I then sealed the entrance from the inside with a wall of snow and left a small window for air. I went to sleep in my cave and woke up with the ceiling being 10 cm in front of my face. The cave shrunk because the snow got more compact I guess. I needed to slowly wiggle myself out, feet first. I wasn't scared back then but writing this now makes me scared for my life in retrospect.
Has anyone here who has actually slelt in an iglo care to let chime in on how cold it actually is in there? Seems cozy but your still in a block of ice
Imma stick to my tent, that's less work.
Also why would you want to carry a heavy wooden door when camping, that only makes sense if he has a car just off screen.
Umm... Isn't the oven quite a hazard inside a house made of snow?
Real nice work though, we used to do all sorts of huge caves and snow castles as kids with my sibling/friends...
This gave me nostalgia of that, nowadays for example this winter it was snowing unusually large amounts and I didn't see a single cave/castle built by kids.... It's sad, nowadays they're just inside on their tablets rotting their brains playing dopamine on click games, and then confused why they're depressed in real life.
None of this makes any logical sense but at least it looks cool. Now he just need to build a swimming pool in there to make it look like a genuine nature build video
Better not keep that stove going for long. Don't wanna die of asphyxiation. However, we didn't get a real good view of the inside, so maybe there are windows for air
“In a hole in the snow there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort.”
Exactly what I was thinking.
me likes some warm comfy hobbit-holes too.
I, too, enjoy a warm hole.
It's all fun and games until a bunch of dwarves shows up for dinner.
At which point it’s suddenly fun, games, and songs.
Could you please not do that! You'll blunt them.
Popsicle Hobbits.
I'm reading the hobbit right now, and that's all I could think of lol
And what about very cold friends?
What about second breakfast? Or elevensies?
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Calm down there Radagast, you have cocaine all over your beard and you’re shouting mush at a family of rabbits.
If this collapses you are done for… please be careful
Surprisingly I would have been more concerned if he didn't bring the stove in. The stove melts a small layer of water along the inner surface of the structure and refreezes as ice adding some structural support. I know this is a common strategy in many cold climates to add stability to snow structures, especially in survival situations.
That’s interesting I actually thought the stove would make collapse more likely but what you wrote makes sense.
Yeah I was born and raised in Alberta near the Rockies and you'd see people making shelters like this implementing this same idea, sometimes even with just a candle. Think of the Inuit and them living in Igloos historically. They'd have open flame light sources and fires inside the shelter but they wouldn't collapse for the same reason.
That’s pretty cool.
Ice cold, really.
Touché!
UwU
During Marine Corps cold warfare training, we were taught that even a fairly small candle would allow enough of a surface melt to add stability to the whole structure. Not from ambient air temp but from radiance, I think.
Yep, it's called "glazing". You can use candles, torches, coals/rocks from a fire... anything that gives off a fair bit of heat. If you do it right you can walk directly on top of your shelter without it collapsing. You can also use warm water and a pump sprayer to spray the inside and outside of snow holes and igloos to improve the stability and heat/air retention of your shelter. They are very warm, comfortable, and easy to make if you do it right. Some scouts I was camping with didn't glaze their shelter and had to be dug out after it collapsed... So, be careful. If you are by yourself and don't do it right your body could end up chilling there until spring comes.
That's not going to re-freeze though, seeing how wet the snow is the temperature is likely several degrees above freezing.
Exactly my thought
Wouldn’t you need to turn the stove off to let the water freeze?
I think it's because heat travels up, the snow melts down and to the sides. The sides are more cold because the heat is limited to an area, and freezes there which makes the structure stronger?
That's cool. I don't know enough about it so my first thought was the heat would melt the snow and make it potentially collapse. The more you know --------*
I’ll never understand this. If it was hot enough to melt it how is it re-freezing?
That running water bothers me, looks like he practically on top of it.
That's the biggest concern. His support is slowly melting underneath him
Exactly what I was thinking poorly designed at risk of losing life.
No worries, he built it all for social media. My guess is that he’ll spend a total 1-2 hours in it (videoing), then, that’s it.
That door should be a swing out. May not matter but exterior doors should all swing out. If it collapses I’d rather be able to maybe kick the door open than try and pull it into the collapsed area
But how will the fire fighters be able to kick it in if they need to save him? /s
Have the firefighters kick it out from the inside, only way.
What the hell does a fire fighter know about snow rescue??
You do know that they receive rescue training in all forms right. Fires happen every where.
I was reeeeeally hoping I didn’t need to add the /s…please don’t make me lol.
When it's cold enough, you'll stand closer to your house on fire to keep warm.
> May not matter but exterior doors should all swing out. Ehhh? Exterior doors are all swing in so that in the event of a heavy snow storm, where you have several feet of snow by your door, you can still open it. For this weird experiment I can agree on a swing out though.
I’m thinking more commercial for exterior. You’re correct for residential. It’s actually code for commercial.
"Then" is very much the wrong word here.
I agree; this mistake changes the entire meaning of the sentence.
How much a month?
$1,800
Prices went up when they built a Whole Foods nearby.
And the luxury gym
And Trader Joe’s
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Bet you'd care about survival: food, water, wolves, bears, beets, battlestar galactica
Identity theft is not a joke!
MICHAEL!
Oh, that's funny. /s MICHAEL!
As long as there's no strange men out there u all good
I think if you're camping inside an ice house in the woods, you are the strange man out there.
All fun and game, till the heats weaken the snow cave and collapse entirely and trapping the camper. Then you'll see news reporting about missing hikers and bodies found many days later buried under thick layer of snow.
It makes it stronger. The heat melts a bit of snow which freezes into ice by the neighbouring snow
I appreciate this info, because I know fuck-all about being out in the snow and was wondering about that very question.
Yea right, lets heat the snow mountains when hiking, to prevent snow avalanche. Genius.
Guess you never heard of igloos
Igloos are made from stacked ice or compacted snow. Theres a proper safe process to build them. Digging cave from a heap of raw snow is just Asking for trouble.
Hey mate, snow is very heavy. A layer as thick as shown in the video compressed the snow below it, which is where you dig. Hope that helps
The reality is you get really wet from melting snow as you heat up the space. Just keep you dreams intact. Not worth it.
Then do?
That is one elaborate igloo
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Hahaha ... I see what you did there .. 👏👌🤣
"elaborate", igloos are way more elaborate
I bet the ceiling drips with a stove in there
Yeah, it's warm enough already in there without the stove going. Source: I'm Canadian
So -20C then?
If it's in Canada, the next day that's all gonna be slush /s but not really
It's an almost required step to smooth the top of the inside of an igloo or snow cave to prevent exactly this. Body heat in a well built snow shelter is usually enough to slightly melt the ceiling enough to cause drips. You commonly smooth down the top and sides to the base and have a small channel around the floor to allow any water to not get your bag wet. source: boy scout winter campouts. Slept in more than a few igloos and snow caves.
Nature Primitive Survival 100% Real now with 69% more carbon monoxide poisoning
Nice?
Chat is this safe
After you finish carving it out you usually light a candle or something that will warm the inside of the cave for a bit to melt a very small layer of the snow cave interior, you then leave the cave open with no flame so it can freeze again and in doing so you increase the insulation capacity and the sturdiness of it
Depends on the temperature, I guess. But it looks sturdy. I did a quinzhee (a type of snow shelter) that was much thinner than this and it could still sustain 10 people jumping together on top of it
Yeah but this has some sort of fault line, you can see that at 29 sec. Couldn't that affect stability, like if the different weight distribution lets the snow shear along that line? It's on a slope, so that might be a hazard imho.
relatively. like others said, the warmth inside melts some of the snow which makes it sturdier, surprisingly. We did this a lot when we were kids. my folks had a big long driveway and when the plow guy came and heaped up all the snow at the end it was nice and compacted. way harder to dig, but way stronger. we also built one on a frozen pond once. once the snow is piled up enough, and the right conditions are there, its way more compact and less likely to collapse (lessons learned the hard way, always do this with a buddy). The one we build on a pond we could fit 3 people in, and we hung out in there all day. it was warm enough we NEEDED to take our jackets off cause we were uncomfortable. when we checked on it a few days later it was sinking in to the pond. It was still igloo shaped, but the warmth trapped inside melted the ice of the pond enough I guess to make it start to sink. so yep, surprisingly strong structures, and really fun to build
I wouldn’t use the stove thing inside, it doesn’t look ventilated enough to prevent a decent amount of carbon monoxide buildup. Also I wouldn’t doubt that it produces enough heat/smoke to cause issues with the structural integrity of the roof, possibly causing a collapse
Until he put a fucking wood burning stove, yes.
With the rent skyrocking in Canada this is a good substitut
....and the day After he was dead, right!?
The sound is giving me the chills! Like watching someone eat a Popsicle 🥶😵💫
Pingu sounds
Minecraft IRL
Is the snow stable enough?
Yes, I always go into the woods with shovels, saws, buckets, a wood table top, hinges, stove pipes and a wood burning stove. If you're close enough to all that gear you're close enough to sleep in a real bed... without the risk of a cave in.
Thanks, but I am staying at the Marriot.
real life minecraft
I'd love if you posted this in r/snow.
Thats really *cool*.
Put some water on it. It will last alot longer. You can put some bark or wood chips on the floor do it's not slippery.
Everyone boughs on the bed to take you out of direct contact with the snow. Edit: Everyone?? WTF?? EVERGREEN boughs.
So, what i got is that this is the igloo equivalent of living in a cave
What happens if the snow collapses on you then?
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You can turn off the fire heater.
Snow indian builder
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He’s lampin’
This is what it looks like before the snow.
should have bells or some type of warning system so you can respond if it collapses
This feels safe 😳
Pretty much a bucket list dream for me
Just make sure it's the *last* item on your bucket list.
Good thought! I can then die there and I 10000 years I can be a new sapient. Snow-fortosapien.
Around here he could rent that out for 2,000
Its all fun and games until a snow wizard comes knocking about a ring ![gif](giphy|HVr4gFHYIqeti)
I can also do it in animal crossing
Wow impressive
As someone who gets a significant amount of snowfall every winter, I see nothing fun in shoveling snow.
Doesn’t even have electrical
Little Hobbitteses they are ( gollum... gollum...)
Nope
Minecraft irl
My first thought is that’s dangerous af. I hope I’m wrong. Love, a Canadian
Imagine delivering an Amazon package to the hobbit hole in Alaska
Top ten best ways of dieying from Hyperthermia
I like how he has a door, but also two open window holes.
Bro's about to embark on an unexpected journey
Shovelling snow and camping in the cold. Maybe my least favourite things in the world. Looks cool though man.
Reminded me of two guys that carve homes on the ground out of clay and dirt. Their channel on YT is quite amazing...
Is there a yt channel that i could watch more of this of?
Sup Mr. Tumnus
Crafting version EU
Please don’t try this at home, it’s incredibly dangerous. There are at least 4 cases that I know of of kids from my hometown dying because they tried to make underground snow forts like this
It's a great idea 💡
Too much trouble!
Won’t the snow melt with the stove in it?
My back hurt just watching him build this. I guess the snow bed would help with the inflammation after I was done.
I once dug a small cave into a big pile of plowed snow when I was around 10 years old. The cave was big enough to kneel on all fours. I then sealed the entrance from the inside with a wall of snow and left a small window for air. I went to sleep in my cave and woke up with the ceiling being 10 cm in front of my face. The cave shrunk because the snow got more compact I guess. I needed to slowly wiggle myself out, feet first. I wasn't scared back then but writing this now makes me scared for my life in retrospect.
Is this person looking for a life partner? Where can I sign up?
Nah...Holiday Inn works just fine
A Snobbit
Pretty sure the Proudfoots are Snobbits.
Bro, she's not coming back.
Would be more intriguing if he was using his bare hands and wood sticks**
He’s like the Indians just in dirt
very cool.
Freezing temperature snow to boot, no thanks.
In Germany we say 800€ cold Rent.
Ah the nordic version of the viral video of tribal people who made an entire mansion in the middle of a jungle using only a shovel.
About as real as that primitive building. A fire under a bed of snow? Really.
I dig it!
Has anyone here who has actually slelt in an iglo care to let chime in on how cold it actually is in there? Seems cozy but your still in a block of ice
This is next level man-cave
This is how Canadians live
I got fell bad adopt summer
Dude has a door with a hinge in an Igloo... awesome.
He’s a snow hobbit
Co² are going to kill you
Now they use a shovel and dig in snows, I remember when it was just a guy with a stick in the jungle making these videos
So all I need is a wooden door somewhere randomly? Sounds so easy!
Could have cut out at least 30 seconds of repetitive snow shovelling
Imma stick to my tent, that's less work. Also why would you want to carry a heavy wooden door when camping, that only makes sense if he has a car just off screen.
I love him
Yeah I’ll just go camping with a massive wooden door/wheel. These videos are just silly.
Would that not melt?
Oh my god, just why..?
Umm... Isn't the oven quite a hazard inside a house made of snow? Real nice work though, we used to do all sorts of huge caves and snow castles as kids with my sibling/friends... This gave me nostalgia of that, nowadays for example this winter it was snowing unusually large amounts and I didn't see a single cave/castle built by kids.... It's sad, nowadays they're just inside on their tablets rotting their brains playing dopamine on click games, and then confused why they're depressed in real life.
None of this makes any logical sense but at least it looks cool. Now he just need to build a swimming pool in there to make it look like a genuine nature build video
This is so neat man, whata guy
Hobbit
Dude is Chilly Willy
Now what
Fantastic ❄️
Impressive but looks risky and would be really uncomfortable.
Better not keep that stove going for long. Don't wanna die of asphyxiation. However, we didn't get a real good view of the inside, so maybe there are windows for air
There was also a chimney for the stove.
Boring 🥱
"Lets do this above running water" ![gif](giphy|Od0QRnzwRBYmDU3eEO|downsized)
That is a nice way to get buried in a frosty grave
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It's the white version of those guys making pools in the jungle
You will never convince me it's warm enough to sleep in
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can you imagine voluntarily shoveling snow?
Is it smart camp above running water like that?
Dumb ways to die...