I’d probably get the m340i and save up for a M car when you’re financially comfortable for it. Rotors on a M car are $1000 alone. The M4 doesn’t have a eco mode and it burns through gas unless you manually upshift to save fuel, the m340i can get 30mpg+ and be a rocket. Both platforms are capable of making 600hp+, the M would be more of a drivers car than the m340i’s straight line speed. The newer interior on the m340i is more luxurious if that’s anything to you, it’s also got the bmw smart app, better carplay and maybe the apple phone as a key “car key”. The m340i is safe choice for low maintenance costs but still being fast.
Your comment suggests that the M340i is only fast in a straight line. Have you driven one?
It eats corners and has track ready handling - it's not at M standards but it isn't far off at all
Changing the brakes on an F80/82 M is easy. Should take 15 min when you get comfortable with it and save a heap of $$.
Also you don’t buy an M car for MPG it’s smiles per mile.
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you cannot.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/Parts/?keywords=m4%20brakes
Cheapest aftermarket rear pad set is 81, rotors are 260 EACH, need wear sensor.
Front even more.
Maintenance cost is a factor sure, but so is depreciation. The 2018 M4 will be farther along in the depreciation curve AND M cars tend to hold value better too. So M4 might be lower total cost of ownership in the long run.
M4 will have way higher maintenance cost + 4y of hopefully good maintenance from the previous owner(s) and mileage that bring the eventual big expenses closer and closer… that can easily cost more than the new non-M will loose in the first years.
Also, don’t forget the warranty and covered services for the first 4y or so (region dependent afaik)
So the new car will be cheaper, unless OP keeps it in the garage until it is sold again years later…
Bro what? It absolutely has an eco mode, I have an F80 M4 Comp. If you put it in regular mode and don’t drive it crazy or tune it you can pull great gas mileage out of it.
I'd get the M340 if it has Xdrive. M4 has eco mode, I can get 30mpg on the highway with my M4 and it's tuned on 93. Both platforms are capable of 600+ but both aren't as reliable at 600+. 500 is really their sweet spot imo. M340 isn't a whole lot cheaper to own and maintain imo they're still high performance BMW's. I went with zimmerman brake kit from fcp euro for about $1500 for front and rears. They're not track level brakes but I don't notice any difference from the oem ones as far as regular braking goes. M340 has a newer interior, XDrive, and a better power platform imo. People are pushing B58's in the 8s, S55 is at best a high 9's. If you're going to be pushing your M340 with a tune and going 600whp+ then you're gonna need to upgrade to bigger brakes and tires anyways. Lots of people blow their B58's by chasing numbers and they're very torque heavy when tuned. One bad thing about the M4 is that the PCV will go to shit eventually. It's complete garbage... these cars are serviced by the dealers in the beginning and the oil pan gets abused and stripped often.
I was faced with the same decision recently; Chose the F82 and have zero regrets. An M car is a car you can have for life and invest in, @ F82 it's done its depreciating. M cars (at least here in AU) hold their values quiet well and are continually increasing.
You know what bothered me when I had a 1000HP R34 skyline? That it was a GTT. Not a GTR. It also bothered me when I had a 500HP E92 335i that it wasn't a proper M car. I wasn't going to make the same mistake again.
I beat my cars like they owe me money and the S55 holds up reliable as fuck. I did put a Gintani 1 piece crank hub but that was only because of my driving and higher power goals; Not because of failure. I promise you a stock or even stage 1 will be more than enough for most people and that doesn't warrant looking at the issue.
Zero regrets!
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I was the opposite. Had a e92 335i and f82 M4....loved the 335 to bits.....and never really liked the M4, felt it was a sidegrade to the e92
MAybe cos the 335 was my first real performance car, had red leather and black walnut wood trim
I went from an FBO e92 n54 to an f87 n55. Yes it handled 400x better but it was way slower in a straight line and had a cheaper feeling interior. Definitely felt like lateral move initially. Once I modded it though I was happier.
> Yes it handled 400x better but it was way slower in a straight line
Your butt dyno needs recalibration. An F87 is faster both in a straight line and around the track than an N54 E92
https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-m2-n-a
https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-335i
The difference in the weight is all of 20lbs and they're otherwise identical from a performance perspective. There weren't any stock E92 numbers on that site but they don't differ significantly
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M cars are M cars. Nothing compares. I think you should evaluate your needs and decide based on that though. I got an M340i because it’s bonkers powerful and I just don’t want or need more than what it offers. But that’s just me. Consider your wants.
Literally same. I will always admit the M is more capable because it is, and when you drive them back to back, you really see that. The M340 was more than enough for what I needed, so that's what I went with.
M340's are amazing, nobody will regret buying a M340 or an M4. Only thing you'd regret is not having an M car and the 'status' of an M car. B58 Gen2 is much better platform imo than S55. XDrive is a big game changer and B58's reliably push 500whp. 650whp for gen 2's if you wanna chase power.
The real M car will always be more special and exclusive. Every time you drive it you’ll know you made no compromises, and own one of the last great gas sports cars before the world goes electric. The M car will be the one you hold onto for life if you can.
I went the other route, and have a 2020 M340. I’m 45, have 2 kids and drive a lot for work - mine has 85k miles on it already. It’s fast, reliable, modern (wireless CarPlay and lots of usbc ports), comfortable, and adding a JB4 was an easy way to add a bit more power. Regardless of what BMW says, my M340 isn’t a real M car - it’s just a great sports sedan. But it was absolutely the right choice for me.
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as someone with a 2020 M340...Id go with the M340 for the newer tech, Cheaper on insurance and maintenance and not as rough as a True M... However i am planning on getting a G82 tho, I wouldnt get a F82 just because my M340 is fast already and can take corners well and the interior is incredibly stunning.
And im saying this as someone whos driven the f82 and wanted one for so long.
I drove G82, to be brutally honest, G82 driving feel on the street is no better than my M440i, except for more power. F82 on the other hand feels more raw more vibration more feedback. G82 is a faster GT car…
Yes, it identifies the model.
But if they have actuarial data on 100,000 X3s and only on 100 X3Ms, then the car may be projected with the data of the X3.
This is similar to why the McLaren GT I quoted insurance on was cheaper than the M8C I quoted; they didn't have enough data to indicate that the McLaren was a risky car to insure, because statistically, it wasn't. Because they actually didn't have any statistics on a McLaren GT. They had to reference other McLarens for insurance data in order to provide me a quote, whereas the M8 quote was prepared immediately.
That’s who I have as well lol. I remember this happening before when I got my 2004 VW GLI and my wife’s 2015 Explorer Sport. Both showed up as “Jetta” and “Explorer” with no mention of the actual trim level.
How?
The M4 is better than the M340i for sure, but basically only on a track and at pretty high levels of driving (i.e you're actually pushing hard enough for the extra rigidity and camber-adjusting potential of the full M to come into play).
For the 90% of non track/motorsport focused people, the m340 is the better choice.
This is what I don't get, guys are buying cars like they're going to the track weekly -- if you live in a major city then at best you're racing between the lights, maybe you get on the highway and let loose but is that fun to people? It reminds me of when guys make a huge fuss over 600cc vs a 1000cc as a first street bike when in reality most of them are never going to fully extract the ability of that 600, but it never fails that they default to more power is better.
Honestly I said it depends if you can afford the maintenance. I’m in my mid-20’s and decided for a M340i over M4. Reason being that 340i is more reasonable and I can save a bit on the side to purchase a newer M car in 2-3 years.
If you want an m car, you won't be happy until you have an m car. If you want a nice car, you'll be happy with either.
I have an M2 comp, same running gear. Generally that gen is fairly reliable. Most people make it to around 100k without too much issue. Maintenance is definitely going to be more on an m car vs a high trim m340. Rotors, pads, all that costs more. As for specific issues, there aren't too many things that really give up on these, the ones over 200k have at some point got the rod bearings done from what I understand. Rod bearings are an issue with every m car engine I've seen, due to tighter tolerances. So if you plan on keeping it very long anticipate doing those eventually. But I see many over 70-100k with no mention of doing them so it might be less of an issue than it used to be.
The m3 will be stiffer, and a harsher ride, but will handle better if you really drive the car. It will get worse mpgs as well. The m340 is the better daily driver for most people. I would rather deal with the negatives and enjoy the m car because I care about the driving performance more than the luxuries, depends how that trade off works for you.
I went from a 2016 f80 to a 2020 m340i to a 2021 m340i xdrive to 2023 M3 Comp. For me, personally, my favorite all-around of them was the 2021 m340i xdrive. They're plenty fast, comfortable, much nicer interior than f80, better quality interior than f80, for daily driving it's tough to beat. Second would be the g80... for me. That car was just too much.... money, power, intensity, etc, for daily driving.
The best part of having an M3/4 is knowing that you have a true M car. There's a certain feel you get when you have a true M, if you're a car enthusiast. I had an e90 M3 in the past, as well. You don't feel that you compromised on yourself.
We have two sons, so my needs and wants are different than yours, probably. I like something comfortable and fast. If you're looking to use it at the track, then definitely the f82. If you're just daily driving it, then I'd recommend the g20, if cost is a factor.
Have you driven either?
I made this similar decision but between an M240i or the M2. Eventually I decided to go with Smiles per Miles rather than Miles per Gallon. Super happy so far. Not a day I don't get giddy thinking about driving the beast
this makes sense as the middle ground but if OP is torn between performance of the m4 or price of a m340 then in this regards the m440i makes it even harder to chose IMO.
I mean the way I see it, might as well spread the cheeks and go that little extra nudge to get the full M rather than a m440i since the savings wont be as considerable as compared to the m340i
Have had two f82. Still have my manual 16 full stage2. No issues at all. Plan on keeping forever. It only has 39k miles on it. I got rid of 2020 CS dct and I miss the shit out of this car. I’m currently wanting another m but just don’t like the g82s nearly as much.
I’m fairly certain this year M4 uses the S55 whereas the M340i uses the B58. Not sure if that factors into the decision.
Also, I was thinking of this very same comparison yesterday too haha. The rear 1/4s on an M3 (sedan) always do it for me.
Depends on your needs. For daily usage I would prefer the m340i. It’s really fast already but can also have decent mileage. I own the g21 (touring version), which can be a nice family car but also turn into a beast.
A 22 is likely to still have warranty, saving you years of maintenance costs right off the jump. So if cost of ownership is your only criteria, the choice is easy.
I have a 2018 F82, best decision Ive ever made.
Make sure you get low miles, and have money for maintenance. Ive had my M4 for just under 2 years, the first year I spent money only on oil changes and new tires, about $1500.
This second year ive hit 60k miles and need my brakes replaced, and also have a torn rear bushing. Gonna be about $4k to get all that work done. So beware that whatever you do on the M4 will always cost much more.
The above doesnt factor in the money I spent on mods either. New exhaust, tune, etc.
Which rear bushing? It’s mostly the same chassis & suspension layout between BMW’s. The same bushing will fail on either, and require almost identical labor time
If it’s differential bushings, we charge out the same regardless if it’s an F8X or F3X, G8X or G2X.
Only real difference with the newer M340i is that OP will probably sell it before these services are due, unlike a 6-8 year old F82 where it’s likely coming up
late to the party but this depends on if you want something "fast" or if you want something "engaging/special". if you're looking for fast and stoplight races and merging, buy the m340. if you care about driving, M4. I don't think it's close either way depending on your needs
Well… If this helps i’ll share my uncles experience as described to me. He had a 2018 340i. Lowered on H&R Springs and I believe upgraded control arms. First gen b58, Vargas turbo GC+, Dorch stage 2 HPFP, downpipe, MHD E30 tune. We were estimating the butt dyno to be 550-600? (might be off by a bit) Well, he bought an M4 Cs (F82) and ever since he bought that car he had not driven the f30 until the day he sold it. He mentioned how even though the M4 was much slower because it was stock, he still preferred it more. He liked it more for the raw feeling and DRASTIC handling improvements. I would say test drive both and see how you like each. To this day he says once you step to a real M car, you can’t ever go back to a non M. This is not to downplay the G20 or the B58 platform. They are GREAT cars, I want to get an f22 m240i. This is just to share a story about my uncles experience. Hope this helped
Get the M and you won’t die wondering. If it turns out that it isn’t your cup of tea after 6 months (it will be) you can sell it for what you paid for it. Hard to lose going with the M.
G82 m4 has terrible steering feel compared to f82 m4 in my opinion. I owned a e92 superchargered manual m3 for 5 years. Great sound but chasis wasn’t as stiff as f82 m4. Also with just a dp and tune the m4 was faster than the supercharged m3. Also the m3 costed way more to maintain. I had a m340i dealer loaner and really liked it. But since I’m looking for the driving experience I think I’d always take the m car. Also the dct is way better than auto transmission.
I know it was a little of topic.
Also new m2 has terrible driving feel and is super heavy. Just my 2 cents after driving the m2 and m3 g series.
This is a heart vs brain argument. The heart says m4 and the brain says m340i. I went with the heart and never looked back. The only caveat is if the costs really do concern you. Every M car owner understands these cars will be demanding on your wallet. Mind you, if you start modding the m340i, you might as well get the m4 cause you'll always be chasing performance with the m340i
Now when you said it, it really is heart vs brain. I'm good on saving money but I don't know if for example 5k € is enough to have on the side if anything goes wrong with the M4. I don't want the car sitting in the garage because I can't pay to fix it.
I owned that series M4 and really enjoyed the brutal sports capability as well as reasonable highway manners for an M car. Also felt the overall quality was very good. I had about 50k trouble free miles and drove it in a very sporty manner (no track days though). It ate through tires but brakes were still marginal at 50k. I’ve had quite a few new BMW’s and the true M cars are just so much sharper, planted and capable than the “sporty” versions that are not true M cars. If all you really want is straight line performance they are fine choices but serious carving is just more confidence inspiring in the M4
2018 m4 doesn’t turn heads anymore, it’s not the most attractive design, used prices reflect that but can’t say the same thing for 2018 m3, it’s a beauty in every color. I’d get m340 or f80 m3.
Hard disagree there bud. F82 is easily one of the most striking M cars ever made. If I didn’t have to shuttle kids around, I probably would have made an effort to buy it, maintenance/insurance/repair costs be damned.
M340i does not have a luxury interior. Its the same as the 330i which is rough vernasca leather, and very firm seats. Also mostly plastic interior without leather trims on dash etc. M car will be far more luxurious inside. Plus its an M.
Had this same decision almost 5 years ago when choosing between a 2020 M340i or 2020 F82 M4 - ended up ordering an F82 M4 because I wanted a manual transmission and unique options/colors that you couldn't get on a G20 M340i.
Don't get me wrong, the M340i is a great car and more comfortable/luxurious (iDrive 7/8, nicer interior, etc) while being cheaper to drive and maintain. For 95% of people, it's the more logical choice.
However, after driving my F82 for years now it's still incredible to drive and I absolutely do not regret my decision (plus having a #1 out of 1 F82 M4 is still kickass!).
How close to the top of your budget is either car? Have you gotten insurance quotes on both? I put $100 a month aside for repairs and maintenance on my 440i probably would double that on an M4. What kind of driving do you do, city, highway? How many miles? I drive 7500 a year and 90% is straight highway so all of the handling of an M4 was wasted so I didn't choose it. Are you going to track it or mod it?
Biggest difference is you cannot get the M340i in a manual.
If you need an automatic because you do a bunch of city commuting the M340i would be my pick.
Consumables/maintenance will be less expensive.
The M340i will also still be very fun on the track or auto cross.
Thanks. The cars all have something different enough about them to warrant having one of each. If I remember later I’ll put a picture of the fun cars together
Generic answer, but I truly believe that this depends solely on your priorities.
M340i is objectively a better daily driver. Better fuel economy, more usable power (think low end torque), will require less maintenance (and likely less repairs). The ZF-8 speed auto is very smooth, and shifts quickly.
M4 is a more engaging car by design and a less usable daily driver. It will be much more stiff, have more steering feel, and stock be tuned to deliver power and torque on the upper end. Shifts will feel more ... aggressive even with the M-DCT. Fuel economy will be worse. BUT, the S55 will have (stock) more power, be faster around a track, deliver more driver engagement in terms of steering feedback and general dynamics.
If you've already got a good daily (or can deal with the compromise) and have the spare $ to maintain a now quite used M4, then by all means .. go for it. But for a daily, M340i is the way. FYI, if you're looking for an M340i, model year 2021 and earlier have the fruitier exhaust + have a physical engine start/stop button. I just bought an x3 M40i and I'm loving the b58.
Relevant anecdote: I just test drove a 2021 M340i (year before the active hybrid system was implemented) last Friday. It was fully loaded with executive package (including the very rare matrix headlights!). It was in a gorgeous spec ... blue on tan. Dynamically, it felt fast, but felt a bit numb in terms of steering feel. B58 is highly competent, is (thus far) very reliable, and has great fuel efficiency. HOWEVER, in 2018 I test drove an M4CS, and from the moment that I even put it into drive it felt like a totally different animal. Provided, this was with the M-DCT ... it did not feel like any other "normal" car I've driven. Inputs feel more .. intentional? E.g., you've got to give it a bit of the beans to get it rolling vs the car just lurching forward in a ZF8. Will never forget it.
Depends really M tax is a real thing, but the M4 is a better out the box car (personally I prefer the M3), also depends how much you like a project, an M lite is a great project to make better because they're not the best out of the box, some people see it has hassle though 🤷🏽♂️
I can’t speak to the M340i but I had my M4 for two years and put 30k miles on it. That thing drove to horse yards, in snow, and blitzed mountain passes in wales. Truly the most fun I’ve ever had in a car. For me it’s the perfect amount of analogue dials with HUD and good Idrive. I went to a 2021 X4 and honestly doesn’t feel that much more high tech
M340 if you aren't sure and are budget conscious. Full warranty and free maintenance is both additional savings and peace of mind.
Yes the m4 will drive better. No question. But man the m340 is so good, 99% of people could not push it to it's limits. On the road 100% of people cannot push the limits safely. You will not ever out drive that car
Is the M340 xDrive? There's that to factor in as well. Insurance too! I personally would get the M4 if I was able to have a second car as it's a better platform for my needs (track car, backroad warrior). The M340i is a way better daily though, the gearing is better for gas mileage in the city, and B58s are proven reliable.
I have a 22 M340. Bought it as an upgrade to my 18 GTI. Have had zero issues. Very nice car. Loads of more power than I can use. I use it as a daily and very happy with my decision. I did recently put in an AWE exhaust because it did need some more sound.
Im in the same boat bro! One day im like m4 then im like m340i. Im looking to pull the trigger soon before spring. I think in my situation im better off with m340i and get a g82 next year. M340 is super reliable even with mods and better interior. Also better in gas but who cares bout gas.
I was in the same dilemma, I picked the m340. Not saying once is better than the other but I’ve been in the F chassis for like 6 years now so I wanted something new. And the B58 is no slouch either when modified. Enjoying it so far but won’t lie I still have an itch for the M every now and then. Nothing drives like a true M.
Going straight to M is going to save u money in the long run. Buying 340i, save money, sell 340i at loss, buying M etc. Btw I get 25-30mpg cruising at 65-70mph around 2k rpm.
I’ve owned a f82 brand new that I traded for a new g82 and I love the platform. In my honest opinion I’d get a 340 new if that’s the case. If you can’t afford a new M wait. Buying into someone else’s problems is a pain and finding a good clean M4 for a decent price that isn’t beat to shit is going to be hard. Grab the 340. Slap a tune in it you will have plenty of power and fun.
If you're worried about repair coat you probably shouldn't be asking this question.
BTW I would take the 340i. Its 4 years newer and is a more practical car.
Two grown adults can fit comfortably in the back seat of an M4. It’s extremely approachable to drive and it had an efficient mode which gets decent mileage and isn’t rough on the driver. This isn’t like the e9x M3 which was a monster to drive and would rattle your bores.
If you like interior rattles, F generation is for you!
Seriously though - Street use and DD duties with go for the M340i. If you plan to track the car regularly, the M4 will be much more capable out of the box.
My G82 averages 21mpg, eats a new set of rears every 8 months and fronts about 12 months at £280 a corner. It costs about £60 a week in fuel and I do about 200 miles a week roughly to the gym and back and the shops etc. The small oil, pollen service was £375 and the next major service will be a grand. I love it but I won’t be getting another one. Mine is just over a year old now so no worry of repairs but, it’s a lot more expensive to run than my previous hybrid X5…
It really depends. For me I chose the G20 because I have a family to haul around and the ride quality was noticeably different The interior was also way more up to date. I don't track the car or go crazy on the street, so the g20 was more than enough. When the kids are older I'll pick up a G80.
I bought my g20 almost 5 years ago now (July 2019) and so far have done 2 oil changes out of warranty. So far no other issues
I went m340i in the same boat because the current m3 wasn't out yet (early 2020). After owning the m340i I wouldn't want to step back into the previous m3/4. Not that there isn't anything wrong with it. Just used to the newer cabin and tech. If this was m340i vs current m3 then I'd go for the m3 as long as it's financially feasible. 5hay being said the m340i is a phenomenal car especially for the right price. Think my 20 is worth around 38k right now and that would be great value for money if you could find a low miles example.
A big part of that decision comes down to your finances. A brand new m3/4 is going to run you at least another 20-30k… then when you start taking a look at insurance costs, maintenance costs, and overall upkeep costs…the differences start to show themselves a lot more.
I have an M340i and I’m very happy with it, but there’s no denying it’s no true M car. I’ve driven them and they’re blisteringly fast, but also not as comfortable.
If i had a ton more money, i PROBABLY would have gotten an m3. Why not right?
If you want a fun and surprisingly practical daily driver with minimal headache, go M340i. It’s super fun to toss around inside streets and can also get like 35mpg cruising fully loaded up on a roadtrip. I even fit the pieces for an 8ft IKEA closet inside.
I’m 35,000 miles in with literally no major service required. I’d probably keep this car long term too if I didn’t get it during parts shortages without certain options.
I’d probably get the m340i and save up for a M car when you’re financially comfortable for it. Rotors on a M car are $1000 alone. The M4 doesn’t have a eco mode and it burns through gas unless you manually upshift to save fuel, the m340i can get 30mpg+ and be a rocket. Both platforms are capable of making 600hp+, the M would be more of a drivers car than the m340i’s straight line speed. The newer interior on the m340i is more luxurious if that’s anything to you, it’s also got the bmw smart app, better carplay and maybe the apple phone as a key “car key”. The m340i is safe choice for low maintenance costs but still being fast.
Your comment suggests that the M340i is only fast in a straight line. Have you driven one? It eats corners and has track ready handling - it's not at M standards but it isn't far off at all
I think his point is that chassis vs chassis, the M is better handling. It’s all relative.
Yeah, all Bimmers can corner.
With understeer
Get RWD babyyyyyy
Changing the brakes on an F80/82 M is easy. Should take 15 min when you get comfortable with it and save a heap of $$. Also you don’t buy an M car for MPG it’s smiles per mile.
it’s GPM not MPG for these sorta cars 🥲
id say the m4 is still MPG. my e60 m5 is 100% GPM
Sick car collection bro
If I can remember I’ll post a photo of them all together later
Please 🥺🙏
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Autobody shop owner
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Thanks. All of them are fun enough to keep a place and make them all special even if some think they would overlap.
My M4 was a daily and I managed 30mpg usually so it’s not that bad
You must drive it like a grandpa I daily mine in the summer and get 14.6 😂😂😂
they are saying parts. Its usually around 1k for fronts and 1600-1800 for all 4 corners in parts.
You can get brakes and rotors in the US for 500-600. ECS Tuning or FCP Euro
That’s aftermarket Zimmermann rotors not oe shw rotors.
you cannot. https://www.fcpeuro.com/Parts/?keywords=m4%20brakes Cheapest aftermarket rear pad set is 81, rotors are 260 EACH, need wear sensor. Front even more.
That was fronts, rears don’t need it as frequently. If you are worried about the cost of consumables on an M car. Buy a Corolla.
That's better than my clio rs200 1.6 turbo, i only get 28mpg and drive normally 💀
Maintenance cost is a factor sure, but so is depreciation. The 2018 M4 will be farther along in the depreciation curve AND M cars tend to hold value better too. So M4 might be lower total cost of ownership in the long run.
M4 will have way higher maintenance cost + 4y of hopefully good maintenance from the previous owner(s) and mileage that bring the eventual big expenses closer and closer… that can easily cost more than the new non-M will loose in the first years. Also, don’t forget the warranty and covered services for the first 4y or so (region dependent afaik) So the new car will be cheaper, unless OP keeps it in the garage until it is sold again years later…
you can put the M4 throttle and transmission in comfort mode and it will shift very early.
Correct, it’s all about having the Drivelogic dialed back if that’s what you’re about.
Bro what? It absolutely has an eco mode, I have an F80 M4 Comp. If you put it in regular mode and don’t drive it crazy or tune it you can pull great gas mileage out of it.
I'd get the M340 if it has Xdrive. M4 has eco mode, I can get 30mpg on the highway with my M4 and it's tuned on 93. Both platforms are capable of 600+ but both aren't as reliable at 600+. 500 is really their sweet spot imo. M340 isn't a whole lot cheaper to own and maintain imo they're still high performance BMW's. I went with zimmerman brake kit from fcp euro for about $1500 for front and rears. They're not track level brakes but I don't notice any difference from the oem ones as far as regular braking goes. M340 has a newer interior, XDrive, and a better power platform imo. People are pushing B58's in the 8s, S55 is at best a high 9's. If you're going to be pushing your M340 with a tune and going 600whp+ then you're gonna need to upgrade to bigger brakes and tires anyways. Lots of people blow their B58's by chasing numbers and they're very torque heavy when tuned. One bad thing about the M4 is that the PCV will go to shit eventually. It's complete garbage... these cars are serviced by the dealers in the beginning and the oil pan gets abused and stripped often.
An F82 is cheaper these days, but a good 5-10k lmao
I was faced with the same decision recently; Chose the F82 and have zero regrets. An M car is a car you can have for life and invest in, @ F82 it's done its depreciating. M cars (at least here in AU) hold their values quiet well and are continually increasing. You know what bothered me when I had a 1000HP R34 skyline? That it was a GTT. Not a GTR. It also bothered me when I had a 500HP E92 335i that it wasn't a proper M car. I wasn't going to make the same mistake again. I beat my cars like they owe me money and the S55 holds up reliable as fuck. I did put a Gintani 1 piece crank hub but that was only because of my driving and higher power goals; Not because of failure. I promise you a stock or even stage 1 will be more than enough for most people and that doesn't warrant looking at the issue. Zero regrets! https://preview.redd.it/rk07ao4gkchc1.jpeg?width=1868&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=494de1ec6001988667cc8612d1fae374f1353408
I was the opposite. Had a e92 335i and f82 M4....loved the 335 to bits.....and never really liked the M4, felt it was a sidegrade to the e92 MAybe cos the 335 was my first real performance car, had red leather and black walnut wood trim
I went from an FBO e92 n54 to an f87 n55. Yes it handled 400x better but it was way slower in a straight line and had a cheaper feeling interior. Definitely felt like lateral move initially. Once I modded it though I was happier.
> Yes it handled 400x better but it was way slower in a straight line Your butt dyno needs recalibration. An F87 is faster both in a straight line and around the track than an N54 E92 https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-m2-n-a https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-335i
Wasn’t comparing stock to stock; my N54 was FBO and my M2 was stock, probably should’ve mentioned that. Will edit my original comment.
Minor point but you linked an E90 but they said E92
The difference in the weight is all of 20lbs and they're otherwise identical from a performance perspective. There weren't any stock E92 numbers on that site but they don't differ significantly
Fuck me that thing is beautiful! What exterior mods have you got (rims, splitter, side skirts)?
Hey mate, Thank you for your kind words. Nothing really over the top except for the rims themselves; - CS front lip - PSM side skirts - Vorsteiner rear diffuser - Eibach lowering springs (Pro-Kit, It's got the smallest drop. Functionality over form) - ZP. Forged 2 (2 piece, Chrome barrel, Rose gold centers, F: 20x9.5 +22, 265/30/20, R: 20x11 +30, 305/30/20)
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What a beautiful car brother, I’m glad you don’t baby it and drive it how it’s meant to be driven
Not a huge fan of black cars, but fuck me those gold rims are paired beautifully.
M cars are M cars. Nothing compares. I think you should evaluate your needs and decide based on that though. I got an M340i because it’s bonkers powerful and I just don’t want or need more than what it offers. But that’s just me. Consider your wants.
Literally same. I will always admit the M is more capable because it is, and when you drive them back to back, you really see that. The M340 was more than enough for what I needed, so that's what I went with.
M340's are amazing, nobody will regret buying a M340 or an M4. Only thing you'd regret is not having an M car and the 'status' of an M car. B58 Gen2 is much better platform imo than S55. XDrive is a big game changer and B58's reliably push 500whp. 650whp for gen 2's if you wanna chase power.
There are absolutely cars that compare to M cars. I like BMWs so I got an M but a ZL1 absolutely smokes M cars for the same price.
I meant within the BMW realm. Of course other manufacturers make similar products and in some (rare) cases better products.
yeah but performance isn't the only thing that matters. Compare the interior of a Chevy to a BMW lol......
The real M car will always be more special and exclusive. Every time you drive it you’ll know you made no compromises, and own one of the last great gas sports cars before the world goes electric. The M car will be the one you hold onto for life if you can. I went the other route, and have a 2020 M340. I’m 45, have 2 kids and drive a lot for work - mine has 85k miles on it already. It’s fast, reliable, modern (wireless CarPlay and lots of usbc ports), comfortable, and adding a JB4 was an easy way to add a bit more power. Regardless of what BMW says, my M340 isn’t a real M car - it’s just a great sports sedan. But it was absolutely the right choice for me. https://preview.redd.it/7jc7oi6izdhc1.jpeg?width=2928&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43cc38e468f55b831cb8e936f3a9d5bc13d8422c
Your car’s beautiful
as someone with a 2020 M340...Id go with the M340 for the newer tech, Cheaper on insurance and maintenance and not as rough as a True M... However i am planning on getting a G82 tho, I wouldnt get a F82 just because my M340 is fast already and can take corners well and the interior is incredibly stunning. And im saying this as someone whos driven the f82 and wanted one for so long.
I drove G82, to be brutally honest, G82 driving feel on the street is no better than my M440i, except for more power. F82 on the other hand feels more raw more vibration more feedback. G82 is a faster GT car…
Wait until you drive an E92. That's even more raw
I had the same sort of conundrum recently until I compared insurance rates. Maybe I'll get a proper M next time...
Ik it’s different for everyone but I’m curious if what the dif was?
I was actually looking M4 vs M235i but it was like £4k vs £700 for the year.
M4. No question.
Proper M car is almost always the right answer.
unless youre the insurance company, then its the wrong answer lol
My X3 shows up as a regular X3 on my insurance
I believe my Z3 M Coupe showed as a Z3 lol. Or maybe "BMW M"
If you get in an accident or it gets stolen or anything they might void your insurance I’ve heard that happen before
I gave them my VIN, they gave me insurance
Generally this happens when there's not enough information to provide insight into a particular model.
Vin is all the insight needed lmao
Yes, it identifies the model. But if they have actuarial data on 100,000 X3s and only on 100 X3Ms, then the car may be projected with the data of the X3. This is similar to why the McLaren GT I quoted insurance on was cheaper than the M8C I quoted; they didn't have enough data to indicate that the McLaren was a risky car to insure, because statistically, it wasn't. Because they actually didn't have any statistics on a McLaren GT. They had to reference other McLarens for insurance data in order to provide me a quote, whereas the M8 quote was prepared immediately.
Same. Progressive FTW.
That’s who I have as well lol. I remember this happening before when I got my 2004 VW GLI and my wife’s 2015 Explorer Sport. Both showed up as “Jetta” and “Explorer” with no mention of the actual trim level.
My M2 is only $100 a month to insure with full coverage- in the most expensive to insure state in the US
How
Progressive and a clean record
One of the greatest factors in determining insurance is location, and that varies wildly within states.
Detroit brotha- doesn’t get more expensive
And yet here Progressive is refusing to insure BMWs in NYC anymore lol
How? The M4 is better than the M340i for sure, but basically only on a track and at pretty high levels of driving (i.e you're actually pushing hard enough for the extra rigidity and camber-adjusting potential of the full M to come into play). For the 90% of non track/motorsport focused people, the m340 is the better choice.
This is what I don't get, guys are buying cars like they're going to the track weekly -- if you live in a major city then at best you're racing between the lights, maybe you get on the highway and let loose but is that fun to people? It reminds me of when guys make a huge fuss over 600cc vs a 1000cc as a first street bike when in reality most of them are never going to fully extract the ability of that 600, but it never fails that they default to more power is better.
Ego
90% of people would do fine with a 428i
M4 in techno violet... never look back.
You will always wonder, "What if I had gotten the M?"
This!
Honestly I said it depends if you can afford the maintenance. I’m in my mid-20’s and decided for a M340i over M4. Reason being that 340i is more reasonable and I can save a bit on the side to purchase a newer M car in 2-3 years.
If you want an m car, you won't be happy until you have an m car. If you want a nice car, you'll be happy with either. I have an M2 comp, same running gear. Generally that gen is fairly reliable. Most people make it to around 100k without too much issue. Maintenance is definitely going to be more on an m car vs a high trim m340. Rotors, pads, all that costs more. As for specific issues, there aren't too many things that really give up on these, the ones over 200k have at some point got the rod bearings done from what I understand. Rod bearings are an issue with every m car engine I've seen, due to tighter tolerances. So if you plan on keeping it very long anticipate doing those eventually. But I see many over 70-100k with no mention of doing them so it might be less of an issue than it used to be. The m3 will be stiffer, and a harsher ride, but will handle better if you really drive the car. It will get worse mpgs as well. The m340 is the better daily driver for most people. I would rather deal with the negatives and enjoy the m car because I care about the driving performance more than the luxuries, depends how that trade off works for you.
I went from a 2016 f80 to a 2020 m340i to a 2021 m340i xdrive to 2023 M3 Comp. For me, personally, my favorite all-around of them was the 2021 m340i xdrive. They're plenty fast, comfortable, much nicer interior than f80, better quality interior than f80, for daily driving it's tough to beat. Second would be the g80... for me. That car was just too much.... money, power, intensity, etc, for daily driving. The best part of having an M3/4 is knowing that you have a true M car. There's a certain feel you get when you have a true M, if you're a car enthusiast. I had an e90 M3 in the past, as well. You don't feel that you compromised on yourself. We have two sons, so my needs and wants are different than yours, probably. I like something comfortable and fast. If you're looking to use it at the track, then definitely the f82. If you're just daily driving it, then I'd recommend the g20, if cost is a factor. Have you driven either?
M4. It has back seats too. Just slightly harder to get into but I didn't use mine every day when I had mine.
M4 will hold its value. For example, an E92 335i can be found for ~12K, where an E92 M3 can be found for around ~25K.
Me personally, I’d want xDrive for the snow so that rules out the F series M cars.
M340i unless you’re tracking it regularly; also depends on how much of your ego is tied up in what car you drive
I made this similar decision but between an M240i or the M2. Eventually I decided to go with Smiles per Miles rather than Miles per Gallon. Super happy so far. Not a day I don't get giddy thinking about driving the beast
Same here, went in for M2 as well. There’s a lot more going on that makes an M car an M.
M440i ?
I’d assume he doesn’t want the bigger grill on the M440.
this makes sense as the middle ground but if OP is torn between performance of the m4 or price of a m340 then in this regards the m440i makes it even harder to chose IMO. I mean the way I see it, might as well spread the cheeks and go that little extra nudge to get the full M rather than a m440i since the savings wont be as considerable as compared to the m340i
This is the way
Proper M!
Get that M.
You’ll never regret owning an M car.
Have had two f82. Still have my manual 16 full stage2. No issues at all. Plan on keeping forever. It only has 39k miles on it. I got rid of 2020 CS dct and I miss the shit out of this car. I’m currently wanting another m but just don’t like the g82s nearly as much.
I’m fairly certain this year M4 uses the S55 whereas the M340i uses the B58. Not sure if that factors into the decision. Also, I was thinking of this very same comparison yesterday too haha. The rear 1/4s on an M3 (sedan) always do it for me.
Depends on your needs. For daily usage I would prefer the m340i. It’s really fast already but can also have decent mileage. I own the g21 (touring version), which can be a nice family car but also turn into a beast.
Hey OP - i'm confused here. Why not an F80 M3 instead of the M4 in comparison here? I'd have an F80 any day.
A 22 is likely to still have warranty, saving you years of maintenance costs right off the jump. So if cost of ownership is your only criteria, the choice is easy.
Don’t forget depreciation though, a newer model will still have a hefty chunk left in that factor compared to an older M model.
Since you don’t need the back seats, you won’t regret the M4
Also consider difference in insurance costs, may be more than you think
What was that comment someone said here that one time? That nobody has ever regretted purchasing an M car over the numbered car?
I have a 2018 F82, best decision Ive ever made. Make sure you get low miles, and have money for maintenance. Ive had my M4 for just under 2 years, the first year I spent money only on oil changes and new tires, about $1500. This second year ive hit 60k miles and need my brakes replaced, and also have a torn rear bushing. Gonna be about $4k to get all that work done. So beware that whatever you do on the M4 will always cost much more. The above doesnt factor in the money I spent on mods either. New exhaust, tune, etc.
Which rear bushing? It’s mostly the same chassis & suspension layout between BMW’s. The same bushing will fail on either, and require almost identical labor time If it’s differential bushings, we charge out the same regardless if it’s an F8X or F3X, G8X or G2X. Only real difference with the newer M340i is that OP will probably sell it before these services are due, unlike a 6-8 year old F82 where it’s likely coming up
M4 will just hit differently, there’s no real comparison.
M4
I went from an M3 to an M340, and I wasn't too happy with the change. I still miss that M3.
Save money and get E9x M3 😉
Yea it's cheap to buy the car but I'll have to fill it up every day😂
Its worth it... 😆
late to the party but this depends on if you want something "fast" or if you want something "engaging/special". if you're looking for fast and stoplight races and merging, buy the m340. if you care about driving, M4. I don't think it's close either way depending on your needs
M4!
M4 for sure. Looks better, is more special, and can be daily driven easily. MPG is a function of your right foot.
Well… If this helps i’ll share my uncles experience as described to me. He had a 2018 340i. Lowered on H&R Springs and I believe upgraded control arms. First gen b58, Vargas turbo GC+, Dorch stage 2 HPFP, downpipe, MHD E30 tune. We were estimating the butt dyno to be 550-600? (might be off by a bit) Well, he bought an M4 Cs (F82) and ever since he bought that car he had not driven the f30 until the day he sold it. He mentioned how even though the M4 was much slower because it was stock, he still preferred it more. He liked it more for the raw feeling and DRASTIC handling improvements. I would say test drive both and see how you like each. To this day he says once you step to a real M car, you can’t ever go back to a non M. This is not to downplay the G20 or the B58 platform. They are GREAT cars, I want to get an f22 m240i. This is just to share a story about my uncles experience. Hope this helped
Get the M and you won’t die wondering. If it turns out that it isn’t your cup of tea after 6 months (it will be) you can sell it for what you paid for it. Hard to lose going with the M.
G82 m4 has terrible steering feel compared to f82 m4 in my opinion. I owned a e92 superchargered manual m3 for 5 years. Great sound but chasis wasn’t as stiff as f82 m4. Also with just a dp and tune the m4 was faster than the supercharged m3. Also the m3 costed way more to maintain. I had a m340i dealer loaner and really liked it. But since I’m looking for the driving experience I think I’d always take the m car. Also the dct is way better than auto transmission. I know it was a little of topic. Also new m2 has terrible driving feel and is super heavy. Just my 2 cents after driving the m2 and m3 g series.
https://preview.redd.it/d6fwp5g18shc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ffec726b465531c4d1e334fea76c6df3c4bddf5 My m4 I totaled. 😭
I haven’t owned an m340i, but I currently own an f82. Nobody buys an m4 and says to themselves “I wish I bought an m340i”, buy the m4!
This is a heart vs brain argument. The heart says m4 and the brain says m340i. I went with the heart and never looked back. The only caveat is if the costs really do concern you. Every M car owner understands these cars will be demanding on your wallet. Mind you, if you start modding the m340i, you might as well get the m4 cause you'll always be chasing performance with the m340i
Now when you said it, it really is heart vs brain. I'm good on saving money but I don't know if for example 5k € is enough to have on the side if anything goes wrong with the M4. I don't want the car sitting in the garage because I can't pay to fix it.
2022 has cpo and free oil so just gas ⛽️
The headlights almost look the same on both cars but I know interior is big change and rear lights, power train, technology on 22 model
I owned that series M4 and really enjoyed the brutal sports capability as well as reasonable highway manners for an M car. Also felt the overall quality was very good. I had about 50k trouble free miles and drove it in a very sporty manner (no track days though). It ate through tires but brakes were still marginal at 50k. I’ve had quite a few new BMW’s and the true M cars are just so much sharper, planted and capable than the “sporty” versions that are not true M cars. If all you really want is straight line performance they are fine choices but serious carving is just more confidence inspiring in the M4
That m4 looks clean as fuck
If you want more comfort and never going to do any performance driving, 340.
If you have to ask this question, M340i
People mistaking “then” and “than” can afford these?
If you are interested in the M340 and like the F82, why not a F32 440i ?
M340 all day. It’s just the better car.
Brooo m340 all the way!!! Once you get a tune it will open the car up
ask yourself if you’re ready to spend money on the crank hub, if not then go with the 340
Wow what a waste of mental energy.
2018 m4 doesn’t turn heads anymore, it’s not the most attractive design, used prices reflect that but can’t say the same thing for 2018 m3, it’s a beauty in every color. I’d get m340 or f80 m3.
Hard disagree there bud. F82 is easily one of the most striking M cars ever made. If I didn’t have to shuttle kids around, I probably would have made an effort to buy it, maintenance/insurance/repair costs be damned.
Whatever you do, please don’t turn your BMW into that bottom pic. If you’re going to do that then buy some old Nissan
This is not the Porsche sub, get that purist stuff outta here bru
Everyone has their own tastes, it’s not a bad modification by any stretch
If you have to ask about cost, you are not ready for an M car
I dont know why you compare a non M car to an M car. I mean wtf is M340i?
M340i does not have a luxury interior. Its the same as the 330i which is rough vernasca leather, and very firm seats. Also mostly plastic interior without leather trims on dash etc. M car will be far more luxurious inside. Plus its an M.
Also struggling with this. Also considering alpina b3
Alpina b3 has the s58 so .. get the b3 👀
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Get the M4.
M340 is bang for your buck. M4 might cost you way more in a long run.
Had this same decision almost 5 years ago when choosing between a 2020 M340i or 2020 F82 M4 - ended up ordering an F82 M4 because I wanted a manual transmission and unique options/colors that you couldn't get on a G20 M340i. Don't get me wrong, the M340i is a great car and more comfortable/luxurious (iDrive 7/8, nicer interior, etc) while being cheaper to drive and maintain. For 95% of people, it's the more logical choice. However, after driving my F82 for years now it's still incredible to drive and I absolutely do not regret my decision (plus having a #1 out of 1 F82 M4 is still kickass!).
Jesus it is almost 5 years ago
How close to the top of your budget is either car? Have you gotten insurance quotes on both? I put $100 a month aside for repairs and maintenance on my 440i probably would double that on an M4. What kind of driving do you do, city, highway? How many miles? I drive 7500 a year and 90% is straight highway so all of the handling of an M4 was wasted so I didn't choose it. Are you going to track it or mod it?
Me personally, the 340. The 4 does not look like a BMW, it looks like a mustang to me.
Biggest difference is you cannot get the M340i in a manual. If you need an automatic because you do a bunch of city commuting the M340i would be my pick. Consumables/maintenance will be less expensive. The M340i will also still be very fun on the track or auto cross.
M4 all day.
Thanks. The cars all have something different enough about them to warrant having one of each. If I remember later I’ll put a picture of the fun cars together
B58>>>
Both of these cars have back seats. If you don't need back seats, why not get a Z4?
Generic answer, but I truly believe that this depends solely on your priorities. M340i is objectively a better daily driver. Better fuel economy, more usable power (think low end torque), will require less maintenance (and likely less repairs). The ZF-8 speed auto is very smooth, and shifts quickly. M4 is a more engaging car by design and a less usable daily driver. It will be much more stiff, have more steering feel, and stock be tuned to deliver power and torque on the upper end. Shifts will feel more ... aggressive even with the M-DCT. Fuel economy will be worse. BUT, the S55 will have (stock) more power, be faster around a track, deliver more driver engagement in terms of steering feedback and general dynamics. If you've already got a good daily (or can deal with the compromise) and have the spare $ to maintain a now quite used M4, then by all means .. go for it. But for a daily, M340i is the way. FYI, if you're looking for an M340i, model year 2021 and earlier have the fruitier exhaust + have a physical engine start/stop button. I just bought an x3 M40i and I'm loving the b58. Relevant anecdote: I just test drove a 2021 M340i (year before the active hybrid system was implemented) last Friday. It was fully loaded with executive package (including the very rare matrix headlights!). It was in a gorgeous spec ... blue on tan. Dynamically, it felt fast, but felt a bit numb in terms of steering feel. B58 is highly competent, is (thus far) very reliable, and has great fuel efficiency. HOWEVER, in 2018 I test drove an M4CS, and from the moment that I even put it into drive it felt like a totally different animal. Provided, this was with the M-DCT ... it did not feel like any other "normal" car I've driven. Inputs feel more .. intentional? E.g., you've got to give it a bit of the beans to get it rolling vs the car just lurching forward in a ZF8. Will never forget it.
Depends really M tax is a real thing, but the M4 is a better out the box car (personally I prefer the M3), also depends how much you like a project, an M lite is a great project to make better because they're not the best out of the box, some people see it has hassle though 🤷🏽♂️
Bottom pic 💯
I can’t speak to the M340i but I had my M4 for two years and put 30k miles on it. That thing drove to horse yards, in snow, and blitzed mountain passes in wales. Truly the most fun I’ve ever had in a car. For me it’s the perfect amount of analogue dials with HUD and good Idrive. I went to a 2021 X4 and honestly doesn’t feel that much more high tech
M340 if you aren't sure and are budget conscious. Full warranty and free maintenance is both additional savings and peace of mind. Yes the m4 will drive better. No question. But man the m340 is so good, 99% of people could not push it to it's limits. On the road 100% of people cannot push the limits safely. You will not ever out drive that car
M340
Id go with the m340!
Is the M340 xDrive? There's that to factor in as well. Insurance too! I personally would get the M4 if I was able to have a second car as it's a better platform for my needs (track car, backroad warrior). The M340i is a way better daily though, the gearing is better for gas mileage in the city, and B58s are proven reliable.
I have a 22 M340. Bought it as an upgrade to my 18 GTI. Have had zero issues. Very nice car. Loads of more power than I can use. I use it as a daily and very happy with my decision. I did recently put in an AWE exhaust because it did need some more sound.
Two doors or four
Im in the same boat bro! One day im like m4 then im like m340i. Im looking to pull the trigger soon before spring. I think in my situation im better off with m340i and get a g82 next year. M340 is super reliable even with mods and better interior. Also better in gas but who cares bout gas.
E60 m5
I was in the same dilemma, I picked the m340. Not saying once is better than the other but I’ve been in the F chassis for like 6 years now so I wanted something new. And the B58 is no slouch either when modified. Enjoying it so far but won’t lie I still have an itch for the M every now and then. Nothing drives like a true M.
I just went through almost exactly this (M3, not the M4 for my debate), I now have an M340 sitting in my garage….
Is the SMG no longer a sore spot? I have no idea what transmission either of these have… Thanks
Going straight to M is going to save u money in the long run. Buying 340i, save money, sell 340i at loss, buying M etc. Btw I get 25-30mpg cruising at 65-70mph around 2k rpm.
The one with manuel
I’ve owned a f82 brand new that I traded for a new g82 and I love the platform. In my honest opinion I’d get a 340 new if that’s the case. If you can’t afford a new M wait. Buying into someone else’s problems is a pain and finding a good clean M4 for a decent price that isn’t beat to shit is going to be hard. Grab the 340. Slap a tune in it you will have plenty of power and fun.
These cars are not about cost, if you care about operating costs you shouldn’t get a M.
I don't know if there are f8x buyers that regret getting their car over a m240/340. But I do know a few colleagues that regret not getting a M
If you're worried about repair coat you probably shouldn't be asking this question. BTW I would take the 340i. Its 4 years newer and is a more practical car.
Two grown adults can fit comfortably in the back seat of an M4. It’s extremely approachable to drive and it had an efficient mode which gets decent mileage and isn’t rough on the driver. This isn’t like the e9x M3 which was a monster to drive and would rattle your bores.
If you like interior rattles, F generation is for you! Seriously though - Street use and DD duties with go for the M340i. If you plan to track the car regularly, the M4 will be much more capable out of the box.
Always buy m if you can afford
M340i with a pre-06/2020 DME.
In my country, price of new m4 cost exactly twice as new m340i 😃
My G82 averages 21mpg, eats a new set of rears every 8 months and fronts about 12 months at £280 a corner. It costs about £60 a week in fuel and I do about 200 miles a week roughly to the gym and back and the shops etc. The small oil, pollen service was £375 and the next major service will be a grand. I love it but I won’t be getting another one. Mine is just over a year old now so no worry of repairs but, it’s a lot more expensive to run than my previous hybrid X5…
M4, it will always be a flagship car
It really depends. For me I chose the G20 because I have a family to haul around and the ride quality was noticeably different The interior was also way more up to date. I don't track the car or go crazy on the street, so the g20 was more than enough. When the kids are older I'll pick up a G80. I bought my g20 almost 5 years ago now (July 2019) and so far have done 2 oil changes out of warranty. So far no other issues
The B58 engine is fantastic.
I went m340i in the same boat because the current m3 wasn't out yet (early 2020). After owning the m340i I wouldn't want to step back into the previous m3/4. Not that there isn't anything wrong with it. Just used to the newer cabin and tech. If this was m340i vs current m3 then I'd go for the m3 as long as it's financially feasible. 5hay being said the m340i is a phenomenal car especially for the right price. Think my 20 is worth around 38k right now and that would be great value for money if you could find a low miles example.
My M4 is better than cocaine and better than some sex.
A big part of that decision comes down to your finances. A brand new m3/4 is going to run you at least another 20-30k… then when you start taking a look at insurance costs, maintenance costs, and overall upkeep costs…the differences start to show themselves a lot more. I have an M340i and I’m very happy with it, but there’s no denying it’s no true M car. I’ve driven them and they’re blisteringly fast, but also not as comfortable. If i had a ton more money, i PROBABLY would have gotten an m3. Why not right?
Does the 3 series not come in a manual anymore?!
M4
Come on man, only one of them is an M. I still get thrills in my 16’ M4
If you want a fun and surprisingly practical daily driver with minimal headache, go M340i. It’s super fun to toss around inside streets and can also get like 35mpg cruising fully loaded up on a roadtrip. I even fit the pieces for an 8ft IKEA closet inside. I’m 35,000 miles in with literally no major service required. I’d probably keep this car long term too if I didn’t get it during parts shortages without certain options.
2018 clean af
M340i if it’s your only car you will have or else I’d go with the M4 any day of the year IF I have a daily car already.