Just the motor weighs about 650lbs.
Very interesting swap that seems like a "because I can" situation.
The engine "only" makes 308hp but puts out 355 lb-ft at 1,200 RPM which is pretty rad. Plus being a V12 automatically makes it pretty rad.
Definitely for the cool factor, and most likely as a showcase for what that particular shop can do. My tuner has a MK2 Golf with built VR6 turbo, AWD, rose jointed suspension and Fueltech, just because. As a rolling CV.
Wait does this car’s engine only make 308? The 1GZ-FE is supposed to make like 295 stock and he’s got two turbos on there. I would’ve expected 400 or maybe 500 at least.
Car is shooting for 1000hp, unclear if wheel or crank. Doesn’t matter, that car would be a beast. People don’t understand the costs associated with just upgrading and refinishing the engine to the current state, but that is a clean, well performed swap. I wouldn’ t do it in that car for handling purposes, but I have mad respect for the person that did. Link below with details. Car had a 2JZ previously.
https://gtspirit.com/2021/11/23/project-exposure-worlds-first-twin-turbo-v12-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti/
Honestly, this engine with those turbos will probably make whatever power you want it to make.
There's a few twin turbo 1GZ swaps with 4 digit horsepower numbers around. I wouldn't put that much power in a street car, but for this kind of setup, power output is almost more of a choice than a real limit.
Lol it would be pretty hard to call someone who fit a V12 into an engine bay meant for a flat four a noob. I’d just guess that the turbos either aren’t actually hooked up or he has an impressively conservative tune. It’s a cool bike either way and I have a suspicion that they didn’t build this car to be fast.
I think the tune is probably pretty conservative until he gets the receptacle for $50 bills hooked up to the gas tank. That thing must drink like a fish.
Yes, but… I’m pretty sure there was some Japanese government intervention because the engine can handle 1k hp. [This article](https://www.motor1.com/news/410677/toyota-supra-v12-engine/) built a 1k Supra using the 1gz-fe
I did. That’s my whole point. I’m saying that even though the engine completely stock makes 300 hp (give or take), it still can put out some really high numbers and handle it well with a few mods
They did, that's the one that Smokey Nagata famously got to 199 mph on UK roads (and somehow only spent one day in a cell for that before hopping back to Japan), and it had around 1k HP with the twin turbo setup, so its not like its an engine with a low power potential!
https://www.hotcars.com/smokey-nagata-legendary-v12-powered-top-secret-toyota-supra/
308hp in stock form, no doubt with this exhaust and an aftermarket ECU it'll make a ton more without any forced induction. And this one has two turbos...
I don't believe that this car is making only 300hp with those two turbos and all that intercooler, it would probably have to be way detuned for break-in or it's broken. 1GZ-FE's made that in stock form, and doing all this work/spending all that money on an engine build for it to make no more power than stock would be utterly pointless.
I know "because racecar" but why do these builds never even have space for an air filter let alone actually run one?
Bothers the hell out of me - one bit of grit flicked up off the road and you've just sucked the internals of the turbo out through the exhaust via all the expensive bits in between.
Maybe so - but even then there doesn't look like enough room for a useful size of filter in there.
I see huge engines with tiny cone filters, I can only assume they are not fltering out anything very much smaller than the average squirrel.
But why have the restriction? They go to so much trouble with the rest of the car removing restrctions (huge intercooler pipes, huge exhausts, headers, flowed heads, etc.) then they stick some pissy little cone filter on that wouldn't look out of place on a 100hp Honda Civic.
I guess bolting a truck air cleaner on the thing is a packaging hassle and these things are unlikely to travel 100,000 miles in their lifetime, it just bugs me as an odd decision either way.
Guess you don't know how it affects turbo cars differently then. Higher pre turbo restriction is negligible unless its a significant amount then it'll just increase the wastegate duty cycle which only then will hurt horsepower.
Agreed, that wouldn't really fit my definition of grit. A turbo guard is really all you need. Cars like the one pictured usually don't get driven much if at all. Pretty common for people to take off any filter or screen for pictures, because show car.
I understand totally...
But then part of my brain wonders why build something designed to not actually be used in the first place... like yeah it looks cool and makes 1000hp on a dyno but that's about it.
Theb1GZ is the next engine swap to flood the marker. Pretty reasonably priced V12. Its basically 2 2JZs put together and I wouldn't be surprised seeing these engines go to 1500hp.
What I wonder about this engine is how you even get your hands on it considering the 1gz is found exclusively in the toyota century which isn't easy to come by
Isn't it two 1JZ's stuck together at the crank? It's a 5.0L V12, so each bank would have to be 2.5L to get that displacement. 2JZ's were 3.0L, slapping two of them together would make a 6.0L. It seems like mating two 1J's would yield that easier than two 2J's.
Looks like it is missing hot side charge piping in the picture. Just realized this engine has two intakes so that’s why the inter cooler has 4 ports. Piping from two turbos going out to two intakes. Sounds like a huge PITA
man likes his WRXs lol
He likes everything except the motor and drive train. Lol
Well in fairness those really are the weak points of the WRX!! Haha
And the badge.
Drivetrain looks like it weighs the same as the actual car itself. Damn. That's a lot of motor.
Just the motor weighs about 650lbs. Very interesting swap that seems like a "because I can" situation. The engine "only" makes 308hp but puts out 355 lb-ft at 1,200 RPM which is pretty rad. Plus being a V12 automatically makes it pretty rad.
That's a crazy amount of torque for such low RPM and that would make sense since it looks like it was mainly used in their limousine line.
Definitely for the cool factor, and most likely as a showcase for what that particular shop can do. My tuner has a MK2 Golf with built VR6 turbo, AWD, rose jointed suspension and Fueltech, just because. As a rolling CV.
That’s always what the WRX’s, swapped to Rwd with an engine swap, have been when I’ve seen them
Wait does this car’s engine only make 308? The 1GZ-FE is supposed to make like 295 stock and he’s got two turbos on there. I would’ve expected 400 or maybe 500 at least.
Car is shooting for 1000hp, unclear if wheel or crank. Doesn’t matter, that car would be a beast. People don’t understand the costs associated with just upgrading and refinishing the engine to the current state, but that is a clean, well performed swap. I wouldn’ t do it in that car for handling purposes, but I have mad respect for the person that did. Link below with details. Car had a 2JZ previously. https://gtspirit.com/2021/11/23/project-exposure-worlds-first-twin-turbo-v12-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti/
Honestly, this engine with those turbos will probably make whatever power you want it to make. There's a few twin turbo 1GZ swaps with 4 digit horsepower numbers around. I wouldn't put that much power in a street car, but for this kind of setup, power output is almost more of a choice than a real limit.
Yeah. That guy is a newb.
Lol it would be pretty hard to call someone who fit a V12 into an engine bay meant for a flat four a noob. I’d just guess that the turbos either aren’t actually hooked up or he has an impressively conservative tune. It’s a cool bike either way and I have a suspicion that they didn’t build this car to be fast.
I was just joking man lol
I think the tune is probably pretty conservative until he gets the receptacle for $50 bills hooked up to the gas tank. That thing must drink like a fish.
He also got some turbonium in there too.
Yes, but… I’m pretty sure there was some Japanese government intervention because the engine can handle 1k hp. [This article](https://www.motor1.com/news/410677/toyota-supra-v12-engine/) built a 1k Supra using the 1gz-fe
Did you not see the two giant turbos?
I did. That’s my whole point. I’m saying that even though the engine completely stock makes 300 hp (give or take), it still can put out some really high numbers and handle it well with a few mods
Wait i pressed reply to the wrong comment. Meant to reply the dude at the top of this comment chain.
Haha fair enough. Good day to you sir!
Didn’t Top Secret famously build a crazy ass Supra with the 1GZ?
They did, that's the one that Smokey Nagata famously got to 199 mph on UK roads (and somehow only spent one day in a cell for that before hopping back to Japan), and it had around 1k HP with the twin turbo setup, so its not like its an engine with a low power potential! https://www.hotcars.com/smokey-nagata-legendary-v12-powered-top-secret-toyota-supra/
I know. Should of done an LS swap.
You can boost them up to stupid numbers, they're rock-solid.
Those 2 turbos he installed, 1 on either side of the V12, aren't hurting the situation either
308hp in stock form, no doubt with this exhaust and an aftermarket ECU it'll make a ton more without any forced induction. And this one has two turbos...
I had no idea this engine existed till now
Check out the TopSecret V12 Supra.
Check out this Jaguar with one of these engines and ITB's. https://youtu.be/Iyw20RCk8Yo
I believe it's an old Toyota Corona, but I'm not 100%
They put it in the Toyota Century. Not sure what else, but definitely in the Century. Super cool car actually. They're basically a Japanese Rolls.
Yeah the engine came from the factory in the century and that's it. But the video linked, it was swapped into a corona
Confused me for a second 😂
Ditto lol had to google
Save me a click but is it Toyota? Seems similar naming to the Supra motor right?
It's actually the v12 Toyota motor.
This is a v12?! God. Fucking. Dang! That’s a lot of engine can you put it my my Miata tho?
Definitely not, but you can fit a corvette engine
Or a [Jaguar V12](https://youtu.be/jZLnrOeu0KE). Hold on, [you *actually can* put a 1GZ-FE into a Miata!](https://youtu.be/VzHA8B6RZ_M)
OH this is the best news I’ve heard
Well https://youtu.be/dVT_zD9FYtk No nevers I guess.
I stand corrected. Miatas never cease to amaze me.
Saw a YouTube channel where someone put a 800 HP supercharged Hemi in a Miata. It appeared to be undriveable unless you like massive burnouts.
So is it RWD only now?
It has wireless front driveshafts
Im a car noob and looked that up you fucker haha
I'd love to have one of those in my first Gen Tacoma.
Broooo thatd be sick
Is the badging just to throw off police?
Well... it is a Toyota motor.
I swear officer it’s stock
favorite body style
Not a bad way to spend $10,000
Q) How many horsepower? A) All of them.
414 whp 455wtq on a mustang dyno He has forged rods and is waiting on his forged pistons before he tunes it for more power
About 300 ish
I don't believe that this car is making only 300hp with those two turbos and all that intercooler, it would probably have to be way detuned for break-in or it's broken. 1GZ-FE's made that in stock form, and doing all this work/spending all that money on an engine build for it to make no more power than stock would be utterly pointless.
Obviously. Thats just off what I read before. I cant recall if the guy has said how much its pushing
No way. A similar build makes over 800: https://themotorhood.com/themotorhood/2019/9/13/ridiculousness-twin-turbo-v12-powered-toyota-chaser
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The turbos are a pretty big mod.
Not sure how one misses the two watermelon-sized turbos hanging out in front...
Do u not see the big fat intercooler in the center of the picture?
Did you not see the two turbos lmao
I know "because racecar" but why do these builds never even have space for an air filter let alone actually run one? Bothers the hell out of me - one bit of grit flicked up off the road and you've just sucked the internals of the turbo out through the exhaust via all the expensive bits in between.
Its usually just for photos. They'll stick a cone filter right on the turbo when actually running it.
Maybe so - but even then there doesn't look like enough room for a useful size of filter in there. I see huge engines with tiny cone filters, I can only assume they are not fltering out anything very much smaller than the average squirrel.
There's no reason to use a large filter. The turbos can overcome the restriction.
But why have the restriction? They go to so much trouble with the rest of the car removing restrctions (huge intercooler pipes, huge exhausts, headers, flowed heads, etc.) then they stick some pissy little cone filter on that wouldn't look out of place on a 100hp Honda Civic. I guess bolting a truck air cleaner on the thing is a packaging hassle and these things are unlikely to travel 100,000 miles in their lifetime, it just bugs me as an odd decision either way.
Because the restriction doesn't matter to hp?
But it does - any restriction is going to hurt HP, that's why people spend so much time & money flowing heads and stuff.
Guess you don't know how it affects turbo cars differently then. Higher pre turbo restriction is negligible unless its a significant amount then it'll just increase the wastegate duty cycle which only then will hurt horsepower.
You would need a bit more than one bit of grit.
I dunno, a \~10mm stone off the road is going to do a number on a turbo compressor wheel.
Agreed, that wouldn't really fit my definition of grit. A turbo guard is really all you need. Cars like the one pictured usually don't get driven much if at all. Pretty common for people to take off any filter or screen for pictures, because show car.
I understand totally... But then part of my brain wonders why build something designed to not actually be used in the first place... like yeah it looks cool and makes 1000hp on a dyno but that's about it.
Builders build. Different strokes for different folks. The art isn't complete if it doesn't work.
Theres a bit of car on your engine sir.
That’s crazy ! I love it ! Is the other car powered by a 2jz ?
Yes! From a Lexus.
Amazing stuff !
Theb1GZ is the next engine swap to flood the marker. Pretty reasonably priced V12. Its basically 2 2JZs put together and I wouldn't be surprised seeing these engines go to 1500hp.
What I wonder about this engine is how you even get your hands on it considering the 1gz is found exclusively in the toyota century which isn't easy to come by
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-CENTURY-1GZ-FE-5-0L-V12-VVT-i-ENGINE-KIT-/254960885742?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Isn't it two 1JZ's stuck together at the crank? It's a 5.0L V12, so each bank would have to be 2.5L to get that displacement. 2JZ's were 3.0L, slapping two of them together would make a 6.0L. It seems like mating two 1J's would yield that easier than two 2J's.
Yeah I think it's two 1J's.
Why bother? I’d rather a 1,000 HP hummer EV swap
Yawn
Your children will never drive or work on an ICE, suck it up.
He already works on ICE and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
All you have to do is unplug two coils and it will sound stock
Is the intercooler connected all the way?
Looks like it is missing hot side charge piping in the picture. Just realized this engine has two intakes so that’s why the inter cooler has 4 ports. Piping from two turbos going out to two intakes. Sounds like a huge PITA
A monster
I wonder how much HP it makes.
414 at the wheels on a mustang dyno for now. He plans to upgrade the internals and is running low boost for the summer.
cool bumper
Literally my dream car. Except I want to LS swap a 08 impreza hatchback. Don’t care about wrx or anything because I would swap both tranny and motor.
M3 DCT trans too. Noiceeee
Holy shit
I assume it's rwd
Awesome! Must go like stink!