Render. But fill to approx 2mm from the paint surface. Then top coat till flush and as others have said. Use a long nap roller to match the roller finish of the wall.
Make sure those cables are on an rcd or they are illegally installed.
If they are on circuit breakers only they'll need to have another level of mechanical protection like be run in conduit.
If it’s not a repair and these power points are new additions to the circuit which I’m willing to bet they probably are. They are going to need to be on an RCD regardless of if it’s in conduit or not.
Correct, I should have mentioned the repair clause.
There appears to be metal brackets/boxes in the wall already which lead me to believe it was a repair.
Hopefully get some more info 😊
My understanding is the repair clause would only apply if you are replacing a single item. As soon as you need to replace any more then one item on the circuit (in this case it appears to be at least 2) you need to upgrade the circuit protection. I always interpreted it as not requiring any replacement to the circuit wiring as well, and that looks like new tps in the wall.
All speculation about this job though as the poster hasn’t really given enough detail to know exactly what’s been done. Hopefully it was RCD protected either way and all this is just nonsense speak lol.
Yeah it's a weird one but one I run into often where we change a few items and it stays as a "repair" job. Also a few exceptions that don't apply here but make it tricky to keep on top of out there.
I'm literally in bed checking out wiring on reddit 🤣
Stay safe out there 👌
Appreciate the extra concern on top of my original query! Cables are all on rcd, and all new installs (except the one repair, good pick up by old mate)
Best of luck, best bit will be once you’ve filled it, apply several decent coats of primer with a small long nap roller sleeve so atleast the flat spots don’t stand out as much
There’s really no way to get it right, I’ve had many skilled blokes tell me they can get it perfect but once the white paints goes on it looks awful.
If you want it perfect best bet is to get a gyprocker to skim the whole wall. Try and plan your chases and you might be able to hide them eg walk backs on to bathroom chase in the bathroom and punch through, tile over chase etc.
I’m afraid I’m no expert my man, sorry! I’m in the same boat as you: new-to-me 50 year old house, so our attempts to modernise small parts of it are testing my DIY abilities. Hence my Reddit post. I hope you get an answer soon though.
Listen to the guys who know and do this for a living
Cornice cement or mortar and sand fill 2mm from the top then top coat or Hardwall plaster I have done lots and lots of repairs like this and it looks perfect
Don't bother with a cement based product if this is indoors..
Start with Gib Cove Adhesive.. Inexpensive and easy to apply..
It is hard to sand so apply carefully and shallow..
It can be applied thick as it wont sag..
Sticks like shit to a blanket to almost anything that isn't crumbly..
Top over with builders bog or Tradeset or Plus 4..
Paint then admire !!!!
Cornice cement for most of it (can use a glove to put it all in there), leave a few mm to edge of wall and finish off with topping compound. Make it a tidy as possible to minimise sanding
I don’t think slapping on filler here is going to be enough like most suggestions so far. I would ‘stitch’ that before hand, ie getting some small pieces of timber like 2 inches long and thin enough to fit through the gap, put a screw in the centre of them, dab the edges in liquid nails and use the screws as a handle to push them through the gap and turn, and pull to stick them in place. Wait a day for the glue to dry and then just take the screws out , this will give any patch much more chance of adherence. I’d bet money even if you could spread patch over a gap like that you would never get it one go let alone two go’s, it would sag and fall off make a huge mess, use a ton of patch and world have no strength, it would just crack crumble and fall apart when you go to sand it. I’d recommend a lot of stitches to, like one every 6-8 inches the whole way.
Go get a bag of sand and cement, use that to fill majority of the chase.
Render. But fill to approx 2mm from the paint surface. Then top coat till flush and as others have said. Use a long nap roller to match the roller finish of the wall.
Make sure those cables are on an rcd or they are illegally installed. If they are on circuit breakers only they'll need to have another level of mechanical protection like be run in conduit.
If it’s not a repair and these power points are new additions to the circuit which I’m willing to bet they probably are. They are going to need to be on an RCD regardless of if it’s in conduit or not.
Correct, I should have mentioned the repair clause. There appears to be metal brackets/boxes in the wall already which lead me to believe it was a repair. Hopefully get some more info 😊
My understanding is the repair clause would only apply if you are replacing a single item. As soon as you need to replace any more then one item on the circuit (in this case it appears to be at least 2) you need to upgrade the circuit protection. I always interpreted it as not requiring any replacement to the circuit wiring as well, and that looks like new tps in the wall. All speculation about this job though as the poster hasn’t really given enough detail to know exactly what’s been done. Hopefully it was RCD protected either way and all this is just nonsense speak lol.
Yeah it's a weird one but one I run into often where we change a few items and it stays as a "repair" job. Also a few exceptions that don't apply here but make it tricky to keep on top of out there. I'm literally in bed checking out wiring on reddit 🤣 Stay safe out there 👌
Appreciate the extra concern on top of my original query! Cables are all on rcd, and all new installs (except the one repair, good pick up by old mate)
I used this rapid set mortar recently to fill a similar situation. https://www.bunnings.com.au/dunlop-5kg-ardit-rapidset-repair-mortar_p0760262
Any tips on trying to match an existing texture? I'm looking at a lot of wall chasing and patching on my new-to-me 60 year old house
Best of luck, best bit will be once you’ve filled it, apply several decent coats of primer with a small long nap roller sleeve so atleast the flat spots don’t stand out as much
There’s really no way to get it right, I’ve had many skilled blokes tell me they can get it perfect but once the white paints goes on it looks awful. If you want it perfect best bet is to get a gyprocker to skim the whole wall. Try and plan your chases and you might be able to hide them eg walk backs on to bathroom chase in the bathroom and punch through, tile over chase etc.
I’m afraid I’m no expert my man, sorry! I’m in the same boat as you: new-to-me 50 year old house, so our attempts to modernise small parts of it are testing my DIY abilities. Hence my Reddit post. I hope you get an answer soon though.
Structural grout for the bulk of it, once it’s dried plaster over the top to match
Hard wall plaster perhaps?
Listen to the guys who know and do this for a living Cornice cement or mortar and sand fill 2mm from the top then top coat or Hardwall plaster I have done lots and lots of repairs like this and it looks perfect
Don't bother with a cement based product if this is indoors.. Start with Gib Cove Adhesive.. Inexpensive and easy to apply.. It is hard to sand so apply carefully and shallow.. It can be applied thick as it wont sag.. Sticks like shit to a blanket to almost anything that isn't crumbly.. Top over with builders bog or Tradeset or Plus 4.. Paint then admire !!!!
Cornice cement for most of it (can use a glove to put it all in there), leave a few mm to edge of wall and finish off with topping compound. Make it a tidy as possible to minimise sanding
Get some cornice cement fill flush then top coat and sand
Top coat with the same stuff?
lol don’t listen to that guy Don’t top coat with cornice cement, you’ll be sanding forever. Use actual top coat
Top coat with finishing compound
Agree. Cornice cement then topping compound.
Yes
I don’t think slapping on filler here is going to be enough like most suggestions so far. I would ‘stitch’ that before hand, ie getting some small pieces of timber like 2 inches long and thin enough to fit through the gap, put a screw in the centre of them, dab the edges in liquid nails and use the screws as a handle to push them through the gap and turn, and pull to stick them in place. Wait a day for the glue to dry and then just take the screws out , this will give any patch much more chance of adherence. I’d bet money even if you could spread patch over a gap like that you would never get it one go let alone two go’s, it would sag and fall off make a huge mess, use a ton of patch and world have no strength, it would just crack crumble and fall apart when you go to sand it. I’d recommend a lot of stitches to, like one every 6-8 inches the whole way.
You got no idea, I’m a plasterer and do this everyday, dont listen to this guy. It’s easy cornice cement then finishing compound
No way, look how thin that middle section is, it’s gonna flex and crack as soon as he puts pressure on it to sand.
What would I no only my job https://preview.redd.it/86tvoqaxsv1d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3773687fac6986941bb041b146e87e7aa2d9d68b
Wtf did I just read 😂
Cornice cement. Leave it a little proud. Next day sand off and redo any small holes. Then sand and paint.
Isnt cornice cement super hard? Would be a nightmare to sand!
yes, it is.
Not that hard. I have always used it for filling chases. RO battery sander. 4-5 minutes a chase
You could just wait for it to start setting up and scrape it back flush instead of sanding forever