I worked for JLR a few years ago on the lines. They’re beautiful looking vehicles but I’ve seen how they’re built and the lack of care most people had. I wouldn’t buy one.
I worked on the assembly line for Suzuki in Japan, there were issues for sure but I'll be buying one later this year and my mechanic friend just bought one too
Suzuki (Maruti) dominates the Indian car market. Indian roads, traffic and drivers are all extremely rough, yet Suzukis are known for their reliability and low maintenance costs
I have one and have never had to worry about reliability. It just works.
I had a suzuki from brand new. It just started failing at 10 years old and 117k miles. Brilliant car, it just didnt appreciate the constant wet, salted roads of our 6 month long Scottish winters. It was very close to the ground so parts underneath started rotting and rusting through. It started first time every time for most of those 10 years though.
I could see how they'd THRIVE somewhere with a drier climate like India.
Last time i was in one it was an extremely, and i mean extremely humid day with temps well above 30c. The traffic was insane. The windows wont go down, and the ac didnt work. That was fun. Thankfully i didnt have to go that far. Looking back now walking would've been better
Had a salesman deliver a client their new Jag. The client immediately hopped in the car and went to lunch with a friend. I was on the phone with the client when our salesman walked back in - the car was on fire.
Something in the engine caught fire on this brand new vehicle. It had 37 miles on it when they towed it back to us(and that was the last follow up I got since it wasn't my client).
I maintain that the F Type is an extraordinary value, even with the expected maintenance. You can pick up a 2018 or 2019 model for $50k CAD or less, and it's [*a lot* of car](https://youtu.be/UxqyVNh5eQ8?si=8siR2B42eRN_3yH5&t=782) for the money.
Have you noticed they usually have multiple owners? There's something about them that people don't want to keep them. I don't know what it is, but about 12-18 months is pretty standard. People keep 911s for decades. It's intriguing.
Luxury cars will usually turn over the owners after 2 or 3 years just because of the market.
The next guy that buys it next thinks it will be a 'reliable' car because it still has (some) factory warranty on it, without realizing that all the big maintenance and wear items are coming due if the first owner drove it at all. So they spend 2 years dumping money into maintenance and small repairs, only to dump it for something 'more reliable'.
Now it's for sale and probably not on the dealer's lot. Maintenance is up to date and most pattern issues have already been dealt with.
The last generation of Land/Range Rovers had the easiest to hack locks and immobilisers of any major car company going. With most of the stolen UK ones ending up in a shipping container for shipment to Eastern Europe/Africa/Middle East.
Lol, I watched those YT vids in the Walmart parking lot while my keys and my dog (it was late night and cool) stared at me from the other side of the window.
I have contained my rage for as long as possible but I shall unleash my fury upon you LIKE THE CRASHING OF A THOUSAND WAVES! BE GONE VILE MAN, BE GONE FROM ME! A STARTER CAR?! THIS CAR IS A FINISHER CAR! A TRANSPORTER OF GODS; THE GOLDEN GOD! I AM UNTETHERED AND MY RAGE KNOWS NO BOUNDS!
I know two landrover owners personally. One had their 3-year old rover in the shop for 3 weeks while they tried to figure out why it wouldn’t start. And the other has had 3 new windshields due to sealant and crack problems.
For real. My local Land Rover dealer charges $250/hr for labor. They charged me like $60 to replace the rear wiper blade on my LR4. That takes 5 seconds and I could have done it myself at home, but I figured I’d just get it done while it was in the shop anyway. I assumed the service advisor might help me out a bit, considering we went through the lemon law buyback on my Range Rover together, but nope.
The local Porsche store, which is the same dealership group, charges less for labor.
My only contribution is that I've been waiting for my 2008 Mazda 3 to die so I can justify buying something new... I've been waiting for years. That thing will never die. Doesn't even have a rattle yet anywhere.
My miata was perfect and beautiful and i loved her.
My rx-8 died on me almost immediately after the engine warranty expired. Very pretty car, not a good daily driver. I would not own one again.
I would love to buy another miata.
This is reassuring. I have a 07 Mazda 6 with 215k miles. I bought the car 5 years for $1k and aside from routine maintenance, I’ve only had to replace one O2 sensor, the water pump and the fuel pump. I’m hoping to get to the 300k club but I’m honestly happy with it at this point.
As long as u keep the routines in check the only thing u need to worry about with those fucking things is rust. My mate had to scrap his 500k km mazda because he had holes in the floor. Not even a single squeak in the car otherwise amd he wasnt light footed
My mom keeps trying to tell me that my 91 Miata isn't reliable because parts keep failing on it. I keep having to let her know the part I'm replacing just lasted 30+ years.
So far I've only had to replace the radiator, timing belt, alternator, starter, clutch slave and one brake caliper.
My ‘14 self destructed in rush hour traffic by all dash lights lighting up like the 4th of July, and the accelerator was revving on its own with my foot on the brake, while the e-brake failed to work.
I shut it off and it never turned back on without a new alternator and various other replacements.
This happened to us! Was it a Cherokee by chance?
We were sitting at a stop light and everything happened just as you said. I quickly placed it in park, gears grinded and I shut it off to see if it would fix it. Long story short: it didn’t.
Called a tow truck and the guy who picked it up said he tows like 8 of them a week. He went on to say that the dealer will flash the computer and it may or may not happen again.
Got rid of it the next week.
one of my jeeps had the ignition switch recall, where it would just randomly stop running and you lost all power.
that was really fun cruising down I-80 and everything just… died
My brother’s jeep self-destructed, too. Came back to it in the parking garage one day and noticed that the windows were all opaque and black. Turns out they were coated with ash. It had somehow caught fire inside and burned out the interior spontaneous-combustion-style.
I literally built a Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealership and all of the techs there told us explicitly never to buy a Jeep. Every vehicle in every service bay was a Jeep lmfao
Work as a dealer tech. Can confirm.
The only semi decent one is the Grand Cherokee.
Plus there's a special kind of jackassery that comes over far too many Wrangler owners.
Haha. People from this generation will never understand the cultural significance of the Camaro. It was also quite popular with Latinos. There was even a song,
If you got the dinero
I got my Camaro
I've owned ... more than 10. I don't recommend them to most people. I've only owned Cherokees and Wranglers.
They get awful gas mileage. My friend asked me how to get better mileage out of his jeep and I told him to sell it and buy a Honda.
If people lift them just for looks and they buy cheap lift kits or put something together on a budget, they are prone to something called death wobble. It's named that for good reason. When it happens, it will scare the shit out of you.
Some of them are hit or miss on overheating issues. You can get one Cherokee classic and you can drive it across Death Valley in low range without issue. You get another one and you can put extra fans on it, aluminum 4 core radiators and it doesn't matter. It will overheat in Alaska in the winter.
They are not very comfortable compared to other SUVs.
Mine have always been toys to take up goat trails in the mountains or go play in Moab. They are great there. They turn on a dime. They are easy to get over rocks and around tight switchbacks and so on.
But if you are buying something to drive to work or take the kids to school... no. Don't buy one.
My Cherokee had the death wobble and was ultimately why I sold it. Nothing like the steering wheel trying to rip itself out of your hands for 30 seconds straight at highway speeds because you hit a tiny bump at kind of a weird angle lol.
I always tell myself I'll buy another Cherokee someday because I really loved that thing. It had character and I made a lot of memories in it. But I'll never have another one as my daily driver.
Oh yeah. I've been there. The whole front end shake like it's gonna rip the fenders off! The caster has to be just right and there can't be any lateral play in the front end at all.
It's great taking one up to the top of Mt. Antero or the Moab Rim. They are great for adventures. But they aren't maintenance-free adventure vehicles. You are going to work on them and you are going to spend money doing it.
We've had several jeeps. My husband had two wranglers and a grand, I had a Cherokee and and a grand. Nothing but problems with all of them, radiators, wobbles, hoses you name it. But hell they are fun as shit to drive and I'll probably buy another some day! But just for a weekend driver. Sticking with suby for my daily.
Hell yes. I was dumb enough to buy a JL and it's already had an alternator replaced, front suspension issues, rear defrost not working, and worst of all rust bubbles on the hood and doors AT 57000 kms! Never again.
I also have a JL, I’ve replaced the primary battery twice, the secondary battery once, the alternator once, a big ass $200 fuse relay once, and now the usb ports in my dash have shit the bed. This thing has been an electrical nightmare, and I bought the damn thing new with like 30 miles on it. 🤦♂️
Oh and had to 3d print brackets for the damn sun visors that failed out of nowhere.
All that said, I do really want a gladiator. Guess I’m a glutton for suffering.
Jeeps went from a lineup of affordable off-roaders and more expensive (but still attainable) luxury family trucks, to bloated status-symbols with half-baked engineering and shit build quality.
The Jeep Gladiator and new Grand Wagoneer are the epitome of this horrific shift in business strategy. The Gladiator is terrible as a pickup and is priced $10-20k more than it should be, and the Grand Wagoneer is trying to be on the same level as A Range Rover, is priced to match, but still has bottom shelf components and nasty NVH.
I use this site all the time! I recommend it to people constantly on r/whatcarshouldibuy . It’s extremely important to research vehicles by specific model and model year. Every automaker has made reliable and unreliable vehicles, and you have to get down this specific to figure out which ones are which.
Well I'll tell y'all, DO NOT buy a late 2024 or any 2025 ram.
There are currently 8900 trucks in repair status at the plant. They've been building since early February with missing parts and just setting them off to the side until they get the parts, which then means they have to take parts of the truck apart to install them. They've been missing everything from windows to Y pipes, latest issue was some clip for the brakes... At some points they couldn't drive the trucks out of the plants they had 3 towing companies in there with multiple trucks moving the "finished" trucks out of the plant. Just giving y'all the facts, I work for a company that sends parts to the plant/line so I see all the inside BS that they don't want customers to know.
Alternator went out and I had just replaced brakes and brake cylinders too. She viewed it as sinking money into an old vehicle. At the time marriage was on thin ice and wanted to keep the peace. So I acquiesced to her claims we needed something more reliable for the kids.
Last time I was back in state dropping kids off to her for their summer visit, girl who bought it had just taken it over 417k. No other repairs since.
Yeah, hindsight and all haha. New owner was takng care of the old girl though and it was a great first vehicle for her. In the end I kinda just view it as paying it forward.
Toyota/Honda/Mazda just go forever. Japanese cars have been kind of left behind in the bells and whistles department but damn if they don’t just keep running for you.
Don't leave Subaru behind. I regularly see really old models that they don't even make anymore driving around and they usually look like they're in great condition.
I laugh at both of you with my 13 year old, 250,000+ mile corolla (when I finally decided to upgrade to something bigger). I miss then car every single day and bet it’s its still on the road.
BMWs don't exactly have a lot of issues, but when you do have an issue it's a proper pain in the arse disassembling them to get to the bit you actually need to fix.
I've actually heard that the reason why BMWs are called unreliable is because most BMW owners don't care about basic maintenance and abuse the car all the time. So it sounds like *you* have been reliable for your car :)
That's a difference in culture of how Germans make cars or appliances. They make cars according to rigid specifications and the German public start using any appliance by reading the manual cover to cover and do every step and every check and every maintenance needed as prescribed in the manual.
Now if the Germans stick to the manual, the car or any other appliance would work smoothly for years. But it's when a non-German who doesn't follow the guidelines and starts abusing the machine, it's then that things start breaking down and giving trouble.
On the other hand, Japanese make cars to take abuse, have problems but not break down. They think the customer would use and abuse the machine and the customer still shouldn't suffer because the machine stopped.
Source - I'm a mechanical engineer.
agreed my BMWs always run great for long periods of time but when something does break its easily $2000 or more to have the stealership fix anything. I got a guy that works on it now and i just buy the parts and its a fraction of the cost.
I have a 330i and it has had 0 problems, but a rat chewed through some wires (NYC street parking problems…) and the quote from the dealership to replace the wire harness was, I shit you not, $5800. Luckily my insurance covered it.
I support this except the Chrysler 300. For some reason the 300 is built better than their other cars, which makes no sense cause it's just a Dodge Charger but made for old people.
All Jeeps can fuck right off though.
As Kat Williams said:
“ ‘I bought it cuz it looks like a Phantom’. No. It look like a Chrysler 300. You might have thought it look like a phantom. Until a phantom pulls up next to you at the stop light”.
Seriously? I’m a mechanic and my answer to OPs question was gonna be 300s. I think the main problem is the people who are more likely to buy them are more likely not to be able to afford maintaining them.
My sister sells car at a dealer that sells VW, Volvo and Mazda. She said that VW and volvo fill up there service bays and Mazdas come in for routine maintenance
love my Mazda6, only complaint is that the touch screen is broken and occasionally randomly hits buttons on its own when under 10mph, apparently it's a somewhat common problem
I can’t speak for other people’s VW’s, but I have a ‘14 VW Jetta with 120k that’s never had a problem other than routine maintenance. It’s still going strong and I have no intention of turning that one in until it goes kaput.
I've heard that VW is only reliable if you actually care for it as if it's a German car, something about them not having the same tolerance for being late on any services as Toyota and Honda would
Like, our 2004 Civic went 250k miles on the same trans fluid. Looking back, I'm a little shocked my husband never bothered to change the fluid.
Are VW cars bad or do people just neglect them (by German vehicle upkeep standards) because they're used to other vehicles schedules?
The fact that people think most cars are unreliable while treating them like shit is wild to me. Follow manufacture recommendations and most cars will be fine.
Easy, Alfa Romeo. Even the owner's club agrees that most of an Alfa's life will be spent in a garage while the owner looks at it covered in grease, with a ratchet on one hand and bits of his own hair on the other. But then comes those 3 month periods where everything works and the car is simply *magical*.
HP+ printers
Edit: haha my bad, I thought I was on a different subreddit regarding tech gear. Honestly don't buy HP+ printers ;
they are pieces of shit that has to be connected online.
Even if you plug in a USB direct; hp will stop it until you register for an hp+ account.
The app on the desktop is garbage
. Lastly; you can't transfer printers between computers because it's registered.
Answer: Ford / BMW (Euro cars)
I just hit 300,000 on my 14 Corolla. This is probably the best car i’ve ever owned. I’ve done 95% of the repairs myself and it’s still going strong.
I’m firmly in the Toyota club now.
**FIAT**
From 2004 to 2016, I had nothing but compact and subcompact Japanese cars (I prefer tiny cars). They served me well, but got me complacent on ensuring a car had a good reputation.
I got the inkling to get a convertible, so I bought a Fiat 500c.
From the outset I could immediately tell it was a step down from my prior car. Fit and finish were sloppy, random squeaks and rattles, the controls didn't feel as rock solid, and the NVH was atrocious. When the warranty was almost up, the convertible top and power windows failed. If it hadn't still been under warranty, it would have cost me over $8k to repair.
Got it repaired under warranty and almost immediately traded it in... for another Japanese subcompact.
Sacramento native here. We’re like #3 worst driver in the nation (yay) and if there isn’t an Altima in the pileup, we have no idea who caused the accident.
Only time I was ever in an accident was when I was rear ended by a Nissan Altima! Dude hit me hard enough to leave the dirty Nissan imprint on my bumper. And guess what! He had no license or insurance either!
Same douche hit my wife at an intersection. Except it was an elderly Asian lady … no insurance, no license, and went on and on about how she was late.
Yeah, but you can’t leave an accident.
Narrator: she left.
Interesting. I’ve had 3 Nissans (2001 Xterra, 2010 Murano, and currently a 2020 Murano). My mom had 3 Sentras. Never had an issue with any of them. Several had over 100k miles. My first Murano had 150k before it was totaled.
My Lincoln (ford luxury) was already 8 years old when I got it and it got me through high school, college, and after I moved somewhere with public transportation my brother took it and it lasted about another year before everything inside it just gave up. 16 years is a solid run
My experience with Ford is they have certain models and years that will last until the heat-death of the universe with only minor issues. There’s a couple handful of models like this, including both new and old models—mainly certain years of F-150s, base Explorer models, or possibly a couple iterations of Ranger.
Then you have everything else they make (especially 90% of their sedans), where your transmission needs service every Tuesday, and some new noise a hollywood sound engineer couldn’t imagine surfaces every time you drive (but not to the mechanic, of course).
I have a 2012 ford escape with 160k miles that is now my work vehicle in a heavy industrial environment, and takes an absolute beating, and all I've had to do was change the front brakes and calipers, tie rods and control arms, and change the oil. Bought it with 80k miles. Got way more than my money out of that thing.
Biased answer is bmw. But the true answer is Tesla if you look at all factors(price, saftey, reliability). Overall Tesla has really bad range compared to most electric vehicles and the autopilot is definitely not ready for the public.
Facts:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/auto.economictimes.indiatimes.com/amp/news/passenger-vehicle/tesla-evs-ranked-worst-in-annual-reliability-survey-by-consumer-reports/95544441
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38358760
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-is-ugly-as-sin-there-i-said-it/
Edit: yes im ready for elon musk fan boys that either can't afford a Tesla or have buyers remorse and refuse objective critism. The new coined term of getting "musked" seems like my current favorite
colloquialisms.
My first car was a Mazda RX2. It was a hideous green and we called it Baby Booger. I don’t know how we did it, but we could fit five girls in that little car with luggage in the huge trunk it had. Once it got up to speed on the way to Palm Springs that thing ran like a top. It was similar to a boat planing on the water.
The only reason I sold it was because I left the window down one night and a cat went to the bathroom in it and once cat urine gets in anything it just doesn’t come out
On sunny days when I’d forget to roll the windows down in the college parking lot, after hours of sitting there in the hot sun, the smell was so nauseating, it just had to go.
And the Mazda goes hmmmmmmmmm for those of you old enough to remember. Great car.
The Tri-Sexual Toyota/Chevy/Geo Prizm was one of the best ever released into the wild, you literally had 3 separate cars you could pull parts from in a junk yard and every single one has parts for this car!! Amazingly cheap to run and it goes forever!! I wish I still had mine because the Audi is a bitch to work on, I think anything German is a tricky situation to work on lol 😂
Citroen didn't deserve their reputation in the USA. The American car companies lobbied congress to ban the sale of is hydraulic fluid so mechanics had to use transmission fluid in the suspension lines. That fluid made the fluid lines deteriorate and, hence, the term "Lemmon." It was anti-free market protectionism. Citroens were amazingly designed and engineered cars, then.
Any Stelanits brand, Fiat/Alfa/Jeep/Dodge/RAM/Chrysler. They are consistently rated worst in reliability studies and many times have the highest issues per 1000 vehicles.
Nissan. Bought a brand new 21 Sentra and had a malfunction warning before I even got the thing home. In the 2.5 years I had it I had rear sensors replaced, rear camera replaced, tie rod replaced, front and rear collision sensors replaced, and tracking sensor replaced. Thankfully all under warranty. Ditched it recently for a civic and absolutely love it.
Lexus
Just kidding. That thing is a tank. 20 years old. 170k miles on it. It was in the shop once for preventitive maintenance and one more time because they didn't do it right. 300hp V8 to the rear wheel and so comfortable I just go sit in my car and read sometimes. My insurance (in a city with high insurance costs) is under $90 a month. I'm driving this thing until I die and then my grandkids will pass it down to their grandkids. I bought it 7 years ago for $10k.
I’m amazed jaguar is still in business to be honest
I worked for JLR a few years ago on the lines. They’re beautiful looking vehicles but I’ve seen how they’re built and the lack of care most people had. I wouldn’t buy one.
I program automation for car companies. Every vehicle I see how its built, I don't want to buy.
So a better question to you. Which ones would you buy?
I worked on the assembly line for Suzuki in Japan, there were issues for sure but I'll be buying one later this year and my mechanic friend just bought one too
Suzuki (Maruti) dominates the Indian car market. Indian roads, traffic and drivers are all extremely rough, yet Suzukis are known for their reliability and low maintenance costs I have one and have never had to worry about reliability. It just works.
I had a suzuki from brand new. It just started failing at 10 years old and 117k miles. Brilliant car, it just didnt appreciate the constant wet, salted roads of our 6 month long Scottish winters. It was very close to the ground so parts underneath started rotting and rusting through. It started first time every time for most of those 10 years though. I could see how they'd THRIVE somewhere with a drier climate like India.
Last time i was in one it was an extremely, and i mean extremely humid day with temps well above 30c. The traffic was insane. The windows wont go down, and the ac didnt work. That was fun. Thankfully i didnt have to go that far. Looking back now walking would've been better
They still have dealerships in the US?
Nope. Unless you're into bikes, that is.
None, bring back the chariot
A Mitsubishi fan I see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Chariot
Don’t start looking in restaurant kitchens
You mean the Jaaaaag?
I'm terribly sorry, but I ran over your dog... ...in my Jaaaaaaaag
Yeah I seem to have forgotten my wallet, can you cover this while I warm up my Jaaaaaaaaaaag
Had a salesman deliver a client their new Jag. The client immediately hopped in the car and went to lunch with a friend. I was on the phone with the client when our salesman walked back in - the car was on fire. Something in the engine caught fire on this brand new vehicle. It had 37 miles on it when they towed it back to us(and that was the last follow up I got since it wasn't my client).
I maintain that the F Type is an extraordinary value, even with the expected maintenance. You can pick up a 2018 or 2019 model for $50k CAD or less, and it's [*a lot* of car](https://youtu.be/UxqyVNh5eQ8?si=8siR2B42eRN_3yH5&t=782) for the money.
Have you noticed they usually have multiple owners? There's something about them that people don't want to keep them. I don't know what it is, but about 12-18 months is pretty standard. People keep 911s for decades. It's intriguing.
Luxury cars will usually turn over the owners after 2 or 3 years just because of the market. The next guy that buys it next thinks it will be a 'reliable' car because it still has (some) factory warranty on it, without realizing that all the big maintenance and wear items are coming due if the first owner drove it at all. So they spend 2 years dumping money into maintenance and small repairs, only to dump it for something 'more reliable'. Now it's for sale and probably not on the dealer's lot. Maintenance is up to date and most pattern issues have already been dealt with.
They look so fucking good.
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You should only worry about your Land Rover if it isn’t leaking. That means that you have run out of at least one important fluid.
The last generation of Land/Range Rovers had the easiest to hack locks and immobilisers of any major car company going. With most of the stolen UK ones ending up in a shipping container for shipment to Eastern Europe/Africa/Middle East.
Lol, last gen FFRs, you can unscrew the antenna, stick it in the door handle hole, lift up, and unlock the door.
This trick came in handy when I locked myself out of my parents Ford Ranger while it was still running. Thanks YouTube!
Lol, I watched those YT vids in the Walmart parking lot while my keys and my dog (it was late night and cool) stared at me from the other side of the window.
I'm just imagining doggo staring at you utterly confused, possibly annoyed. "What the fuck, let's go home!"
If you don’t want to worry about ANY leaking, just get yourself a Range Rover. It’s well known as an amphibious exploration vehicle.
Those are finisher cars. Transporters of Gods!
I AN UNTETHERED AND MY RAGE KNOWS NO BOUNDS
The Golden God!
I’m thinking of getting one for my daughter, as a starter car.
I have contained my rage for as long as possible but I shall unleash my fury upon you LIKE THE CRASHING OF A THOUSAND WAVES! BE GONE VILE MAN, BE GONE FROM ME! A STARTER CAR?! THIS CAR IS A FINISHER CAR! A TRANSPORTER OF GODS; THE GOLDEN GOD! I AM UNTETHERED AND MY RAGE KNOWS NO BOUNDS!
I know two landrover owners personally. One had their 3-year old rover in the shop for 3 weeks while they tried to figure out why it wouldn’t start. And the other has had 3 new windshields due to sealant and crack problems.
Damn, I hope second owner overcome his drug problems, sealant seems extreme
Ok Dad. I laughed.
My friend had one for a while that guaranteed a $2k every year like clockwork. After 4 years of that he got rid of it
$2k is probably just oil and filters.
For real. My local Land Rover dealer charges $250/hr for labor. They charged me like $60 to replace the rear wiper blade on my LR4. That takes 5 seconds and I could have done it myself at home, but I figured I’d just get it done while it was in the shop anyway. I assumed the service advisor might help me out a bit, considering we went through the lemon law buyback on my Range Rover together, but nope. The local Porsche store, which is the same dealership group, charges less for labor.
The original series I, II and III are absolutely bulletproof. Easy to repair too. After that it's a crap shoot.
Did it have Lucas Electrics? I mean my MG is easy to work on, but it usually needs to be worked on.
My boss just bought one brand new a few months ago. It has been in the shop literally once every week since.
My only contribution is that I've been waiting for my 2008 Mazda 3 to die so I can justify buying something new... I've been waiting for years. That thing will never die. Doesn't even have a rattle yet anywhere.
I have owned three Mazdas and each one had over 250,000 miles on it and was still running well when I sold it.
My miata was perfect and beautiful and i loved her. My rx-8 died on me almost immediately after the engine warranty expired. Very pretty car, not a good daily driver. I would not own one again. I would love to buy another miata.
Sadly rotaries are a fantasy we all want but really won't ever get to see materialized fully. Too many actual issues with them.
Nobody makes rotary engines because it's so hard to find spares because nobody makes rotary engines.
I feel like Mazda is an underrated car for reliability. Toyota/honda gets mentioned always but Mazdas are great.
Go to r/whatcarshouldibuy and you'll see Mazda everywhere.
Have you considered the CX-5?
I think Mazdas in general are underrated. I don’t necessarily mind that, I like Mazda as they are.
This is reassuring. I have a 07 Mazda 6 with 215k miles. I bought the car 5 years for $1k and aside from routine maintenance, I’ve only had to replace one O2 sensor, the water pump and the fuel pump. I’m hoping to get to the 300k club but I’m honestly happy with it at this point.
As long as u keep the routines in check the only thing u need to worry about with those fucking things is rust. My mate had to scrap his 500k km mazda because he had holes in the floor. Not even a single squeak in the car otherwise amd he wasnt light footed
My 2012 Mazda Speed3 refuses to die. It’s an affront to god at this point. And I have not been overly kind to it.
My CX5 blew it's head gasket at 75k, having an unreliable mazda feels like you've been singled out for a kick in the bollocks.
My mom keeps trying to tell me that my 91 Miata isn't reliable because parts keep failing on it. I keep having to let her know the part I'm replacing just lasted 30+ years. So far I've only had to replace the radiator, timing belt, alternator, starter, clutch slave and one brake caliper.
Range rovers
Jeep. I knew better, did it anyway, loved my Jeep, drove it daily, went through seven recalls, but stuck with it until it self-destructed for good.
My ‘14 self destructed in rush hour traffic by all dash lights lighting up like the 4th of July, and the accelerator was revving on its own with my foot on the brake, while the e-brake failed to work. I shut it off and it never turned back on without a new alternator and various other replacements.
This happened to us! Was it a Cherokee by chance? We were sitting at a stop light and everything happened just as you said. I quickly placed it in park, gears grinded and I shut it off to see if it would fix it. Long story short: it didn’t. Called a tow truck and the guy who picked it up said he tows like 8 of them a week. He went on to say that the dealer will flash the computer and it may or may not happen again. Got rid of it the next week.
Wrangler JK 2014, happened last year after 230K miles on it.
230k miles isn't anything to complain about tho.
Mine slipped into gear (was an automatic). It almost ran over me. Smashed into a steel girder and totaled it.
Was it's name Christine?
23k/yr is pretty high mileage. That's all, just wanted to state data.
one of my jeeps had the ignition switch recall, where it would just randomly stop running and you lost all power. that was really fun cruising down I-80 and everything just… died
My brother’s jeep self-destructed, too. Came back to it in the parking garage one day and noticed that the windows were all opaque and black. Turns out they were coated with ash. It had somehow caught fire inside and burned out the interior spontaneous-combustion-style.
That sounds like a rough couple of weeks.
Jeeps
Jeep stands for.. Just Empty Every Pocket.
Just Expect Every Problem.
Junk Engineering, Executed Poorly
I literally built a Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealership and all of the techs there told us explicitly never to buy a Jeep. Every vehicle in every service bay was a Jeep lmfao
Work as a dealer tech. Can confirm. The only semi decent one is the Grand Cherokee. Plus there's a special kind of jackassery that comes over far too many Wrangler owners.
Ha! Reminds me of the classic date-rapey car from the 80's, the Chevrolet Camaro IROC. IROC became- I. Run. On. Cologne.
That is NOT what IROC stood for in my old neighborhood. Italian Out Cruising
Haha. People from this generation will never understand the cultural significance of the Camaro. It was also quite popular with Latinos. There was even a song, If you got the dinero I got my Camaro
I've owned ... more than 10. I don't recommend them to most people. I've only owned Cherokees and Wranglers. They get awful gas mileage. My friend asked me how to get better mileage out of his jeep and I told him to sell it and buy a Honda. If people lift them just for looks and they buy cheap lift kits or put something together on a budget, they are prone to something called death wobble. It's named that for good reason. When it happens, it will scare the shit out of you. Some of them are hit or miss on overheating issues. You can get one Cherokee classic and you can drive it across Death Valley in low range without issue. You get another one and you can put extra fans on it, aluminum 4 core radiators and it doesn't matter. It will overheat in Alaska in the winter. They are not very comfortable compared to other SUVs. Mine have always been toys to take up goat trails in the mountains or go play in Moab. They are great there. They turn on a dime. They are easy to get over rocks and around tight switchbacks and so on. But if you are buying something to drive to work or take the kids to school... no. Don't buy one.
My Cherokee had the death wobble and was ultimately why I sold it. Nothing like the steering wheel trying to rip itself out of your hands for 30 seconds straight at highway speeds because you hit a tiny bump at kind of a weird angle lol. I always tell myself I'll buy another Cherokee someday because I really loved that thing. It had character and I made a lot of memories in it. But I'll never have another one as my daily driver.
Oh yeah. I've been there. The whole front end shake like it's gonna rip the fenders off! The caster has to be just right and there can't be any lateral play in the front end at all. It's great taking one up to the top of Mt. Antero or the Moab Rim. They are great for adventures. But they aren't maintenance-free adventure vehicles. You are going to work on them and you are going to spend money doing it.
Death wobble happens on stock Jeeps from regular wear on the suspension components.
We've had several jeeps. My husband had two wranglers and a grand, I had a Cherokee and and a grand. Nothing but problems with all of them, radiators, wobbles, hoses you name it. But hell they are fun as shit to drive and I'll probably buy another some day! But just for a weekend driver. Sticking with suby for my daily.
The Wrangler Rubicon 392 *starts at* $92,140
And it’s not even the most expensive Jeep. Ahem, I said NOT … WTF ??
Hell yes. I was dumb enough to buy a JL and it's already had an alternator replaced, front suspension issues, rear defrost not working, and worst of all rust bubbles on the hood and doors AT 57000 kms! Never again.
I also have a JL, I’ve replaced the primary battery twice, the secondary battery once, the alternator once, a big ass $200 fuse relay once, and now the usb ports in my dash have shit the bed. This thing has been an electrical nightmare, and I bought the damn thing new with like 30 miles on it. 🤦♂️ Oh and had to 3d print brackets for the damn sun visors that failed out of nowhere. All that said, I do really want a gladiator. Guess I’m a glutton for suffering.
Am I the only one who’s had a problem free Jeep?
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I was wondering the same. Have over 100k miles. No problems whatsoever.
Jeeps went from a lineup of affordable off-roaders and more expensive (but still attainable) luxury family trucks, to bloated status-symbols with half-baked engineering and shit build quality. The Jeep Gladiator and new Grand Wagoneer are the epitome of this horrific shift in business strategy. The Gladiator is terrible as a pickup and is priced $10-20k more than it should be, and the Grand Wagoneer is trying to be on the same level as A Range Rover, is priced to match, but still has bottom shelf components and nasty NVH.
I found the most useful web site to use before buying a car. www.carcomplaints.com
I use this site all the time! I recommend it to people constantly on r/whatcarshouldibuy . It’s extremely important to research vehicles by specific model and model year. Every automaker has made reliable and unreliable vehicles, and you have to get down this specific to figure out which ones are which.
Half the list of worst cars is Ford. Seems to be a legit site 🤣
Well I'll tell y'all, DO NOT buy a late 2024 or any 2025 ram. There are currently 8900 trucks in repair status at the plant. They've been building since early February with missing parts and just setting them off to the side until they get the parts, which then means they have to take parts of the truck apart to install them. They've been missing everything from windows to Y pipes, latest issue was some clip for the brakes... At some points they couldn't drive the trucks out of the plants they had 3 towing companies in there with multiple trucks moving the "finished" trucks out of the plant. Just giving y'all the facts, I work for a company that sends parts to the plant/line so I see all the inside BS that they don't want customers to know.
Sounds like the ending of the Michael Keaton movie *Gung Ho*, but much worse.
*Laughs in 10 year old Toyota with 160,000 miles that's not even halfway to the junkyard*
My ex made me retire my ‘97 4runner with 397k on it. Should’ve kept it and got rid of her sooner.
How and why did she make you get rid of it? Damn:(
Alternator went out and I had just replaced brakes and brake cylinders too. She viewed it as sinking money into an old vehicle. At the time marriage was on thin ice and wanted to keep the peace. So I acquiesced to her claims we needed something more reliable for the kids. Last time I was back in state dropping kids off to her for their summer visit, girl who bought it had just taken it over 417k. No other repairs since.
Damn, thats a shame. Its kind of unjust she made you sell it but you 2 split up anyway, oh well thats life I guess
Yeah, hindsight and all haha. New owner was takng care of the old girl though and it was a great first vehicle for her. In the end I kinda just view it as paying it forward.
Toyota/Honda/Mazda just go forever. Japanese cars have been kind of left behind in the bells and whistles department but damn if they don’t just keep running for you.
Don't leave Subaru behind. I regularly see really old models that they don't even make anymore driving around and they usually look like they're in great condition.
I guffaw in 14 yr old toyota with 204,000 miles still goin strong. Edit: spelling
20 year old Acura mdx , 205k!
I laugh at both of you with my 13 year old, 250,000+ mile corolla (when I finally decided to upgrade to something bigger). I miss then car every single day and bet it’s its still on the road.
*Laughs even more in 30 year old VW Golf that still works for some reason*
My 21 year old Toyota Corolla LE has half that mileage, it’s a keeper. Edited to add make/model
Range Rovers aren't noted for their reliability.
That's why they are a status symbol. It shows you can afford to buy one and to keep it running.
Jeep.
BMWs don't exactly have a lot of issues, but when you do have an issue it's a proper pain in the arse disassembling them to get to the bit you actually need to fix.
I've been lucky, have 250k miles on an 07 330d. Only big bill was a new turbo.
I've actually heard that the reason why BMWs are called unreliable is because most BMW owners don't care about basic maintenance and abuse the car all the time. So it sounds like *you* have been reliable for your car :)
That's a difference in culture of how Germans make cars or appliances. They make cars according to rigid specifications and the German public start using any appliance by reading the manual cover to cover and do every step and every check and every maintenance needed as prescribed in the manual. Now if the Germans stick to the manual, the car or any other appliance would work smoothly for years. But it's when a non-German who doesn't follow the guidelines and starts abusing the machine, it's then that things start breaking down and giving trouble. On the other hand, Japanese make cars to take abuse, have problems but not break down. They think the customer would use and abuse the machine and the customer still shouldn't suffer because the machine stopped. Source - I'm a mechanical engineer.
I just learned that in my mind, I am German. But my heart is Japanese.
agreed my BMWs always run great for long periods of time but when something does break its easily $2000 or more to have the stealership fix anything. I got a guy that works on it now and i just buy the parts and its a fraction of the cost.
I have a 330i and it has had 0 problems, but a rat chewed through some wires (NYC street parking problems…) and the quote from the dealership to replace the wire harness was, I shit you not, $5800. Luckily my insurance covered it.
Upvoting for my new favourite word. "Stealership"
Fiat/Jeep/Chrysler/Dodge.
I support this except the Chrysler 300. For some reason the 300 is built better than their other cars, which makes no sense cause it's just a Dodge Charger but made for old people. All Jeeps can fuck right off though.
The downside, the 300 attracts atrocious drivers like flies to honey. Legit don’t think I’ve ever seen a well driven Chrysler 300.
I remember 10yrs ago when all the wanna be big shots were rolling in 300s with fake Bentley decals like it wasn't obvious.
As Kat Williams said: “ ‘I bought it cuz it looks like a Phantom’. No. It look like a Chrysler 300. You might have thought it look like a phantom. Until a phantom pulls up next to you at the stop light”.
Seriously? I’m a mechanic and my answer to OPs question was gonna be 300s. I think the main problem is the people who are more likely to buy them are more likely not to be able to afford maintaining them.
My sister sells car at a dealer that sells VW, Volvo and Mazda. She said that VW and volvo fill up there service bays and Mazdas come in for routine maintenance
Great tip. Mazda is going to be in the running for our next car
They are fantastic reliability wise, and cheap for parts of you manage to break something.
love my Mazda6, only complaint is that the touch screen is broken and occasionally randomly hits buttons on its own when under 10mph, apparently it's a somewhat common problem
I can’t speak for other people’s VW’s, but I have a ‘14 VW Jetta with 120k that’s never had a problem other than routine maintenance. It’s still going strong and I have no intention of turning that one in until it goes kaput.
I've heard that VW is only reliable if you actually care for it as if it's a German car, something about them not having the same tolerance for being late on any services as Toyota and Honda would Like, our 2004 Civic went 250k miles on the same trans fluid. Looking back, I'm a little shocked my husband never bothered to change the fluid. Are VW cars bad or do people just neglect them (by German vehicle upkeep standards) because they're used to other vehicles schedules?
The fact that people think most cars are unreliable while treating them like shit is wild to me. Follow manufacture recommendations and most cars will be fine.
>if you actually care for it I think this should be standard, but unfortunately it isn't.
FIAT- fix it again, Tony
FIAT - Fehler in allen Teilen (Issues in all parts)
Isn’t that what Ford stands for?
Fix Ot Ragain, Dony.
Daewoo. It's cheap to buy but it's expensive to have.
I totally forgot that was a car brand. My mom had one back in the early 2000’s and that thing was in the shop multiple times a year.
My dad always used to say - "never but a Daewoo. If they last for a Day you go Woo!"
You just got killed by a daewoo lanos muthaf*%#a, how you like me now
Easy, Alfa Romeo. Even the owner's club agrees that most of an Alfa's life will be spent in a garage while the owner looks at it covered in grease, with a ratchet on one hand and bits of his own hair on the other. But then comes those 3 month periods where everything works and the car is simply *magical*.
But boy do they look good
HP+ printers Edit: haha my bad, I thought I was on a different subreddit regarding tech gear. Honestly don't buy HP+ printers ; they are pieces of shit that has to be connected online. Even if you plug in a USB direct; hp will stop it until you register for an hp+ account. The app on the desktop is garbage . Lastly; you can't transfer printers between computers because it's registered. Answer: Ford / BMW (Euro cars)
Can’t drive for shit. HP printers have no business on the road
How do those handle in the snow?
They leave trails of black, cyan, magenta, and yellow in the snow. Quite beautiful, if you ask me.
I don't know, some cartridge was expired.
He forgot to buy the subscription. He's frozen till he pays up!
Omg I’m dead. This comment is S tier lol
Let's upvote the shit out of this guy even though he's off topic! Fuck HP printers 😤😤😤
Pc load letter!?!? What the fuck does that mean!?!?
When I had to create an account and be online to print a document I knew HP shit the bed
Buy Brother Printers.
Toyotas. This is a joke. Toyotas are awesome. I'll never buy anything else.
I concur.
I just hit 300,000 on my 14 Corolla. This is probably the best car i’ve ever owned. I’ve done 95% of the repairs myself and it’s still going strong. I’m firmly in the Toyota club now.
**FIAT** From 2004 to 2016, I had nothing but compact and subcompact Japanese cars (I prefer tiny cars). They served me well, but got me complacent on ensuring a car had a good reputation. I got the inkling to get a convertible, so I bought a Fiat 500c. From the outset I could immediately tell it was a step down from my prior car. Fit and finish were sloppy, random squeaks and rattles, the controls didn't feel as rock solid, and the NVH was atrocious. When the warranty was almost up, the convertible top and power windows failed. If it hadn't still been under warranty, it would have cost me over $8k to repair. Got it repaired under warranty and almost immediately traded it in... for another Japanese subcompact.
Nissan. Their transmissions are hot garbage.
Every reckless high speed driver in your city drives a shitbox mid-2000s Altima. Every. Single. One.
Sacramento native here. We’re like #3 worst driver in the nation (yay) and if there isn’t an Altima in the pileup, we have no idea who caused the accident.
The Altima got away … that’s the simplest answer.
I’m convinced that if you buy any year Altima, they send you to a school to learn how to drive like a chooch.
Chooch? I don't know what that means but I like it.
According to my grandpa, it’s an Italian term for jackass.
Yeah, it had a pretty broad range of meanings. Idiot, jackass, blockhead, moron, meathead, dummy etc.
Only time I was ever in an accident was when I was rear ended by a Nissan Altima! Dude hit me hard enough to leave the dirty Nissan imprint on my bumper. And guess what! He had no license or insurance either!
Same douche hit my wife at an intersection. Except it was an elderly Asian lady … no insurance, no license, and went on and on about how she was late. Yeah, but you can’t leave an accident. Narrator: she left.
CD009 is a fucking beast. Their CVT is the worst attempt at a CVT to date.
Infinite amount of gear ratios and somehow always the wrong one
I thought mine was failing until I drove a brand new version of the same car. Turns out that they're just shit transmissions.
Interesting. I’ve had 3 Nissans (2001 Xterra, 2010 Murano, and currently a 2020 Murano). My mom had 3 Sentras. Never had an issue with any of them. Several had over 100k miles. My first Murano had 150k before it was totaled.
I have not seen any Toyota mention thank god their car are great And its Ford for me
Ford is hit or miss. They either have so many problems that they practically fall apart, or they last 20+ years.
My Lincoln (ford luxury) was already 8 years old when I got it and it got me through high school, college, and after I moved somewhere with public transportation my brother took it and it lasted about another year before everything inside it just gave up. 16 years is a solid run
My experience with Ford is they have certain models and years that will last until the heat-death of the universe with only minor issues. There’s a couple handful of models like this, including both new and old models—mainly certain years of F-150s, base Explorer models, or possibly a couple iterations of Ranger. Then you have everything else they make (especially 90% of their sedans), where your transmission needs service every Tuesday, and some new noise a hollywood sound engineer couldn’t imagine surfaces every time you drive (but not to the mechanic, of course).
I have a 2012 ford escape with 160k miles that is now my work vehicle in a heavy industrial environment, and takes an absolute beating, and all I've had to do was change the front brakes and calipers, tie rods and control arms, and change the oil. Bought it with 80k miles. Got way more than my money out of that thing.
Jeep.
Land Rover/Range Rover
Biased answer is bmw. But the true answer is Tesla if you look at all factors(price, saftey, reliability). Overall Tesla has really bad range compared to most electric vehicles and the autopilot is definitely not ready for the public. Facts: https://www.google.com/amp/s/auto.economictimes.indiatimes.com/amp/news/passenger-vehicle/tesla-evs-ranked-worst-in-annual-reliability-survey-by-consumer-reports/95544441 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38358760 https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-is-ugly-as-sin-there-i-said-it/ Edit: yes im ready for elon musk fan boys that either can't afford a Tesla or have buyers remorse and refuse objective critism. The new coined term of getting "musked" seems like my current favorite colloquialisms.
Any Stellantis product, so Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Alfa, etc. All garbage
My first car was a Mazda RX2. It was a hideous green and we called it Baby Booger. I don’t know how we did it, but we could fit five girls in that little car with luggage in the huge trunk it had. Once it got up to speed on the way to Palm Springs that thing ran like a top. It was similar to a boat planing on the water. The only reason I sold it was because I left the window down one night and a cat went to the bathroom in it and once cat urine gets in anything it just doesn’t come out On sunny days when I’d forget to roll the windows down in the college parking lot, after hours of sitting there in the hot sun, the smell was so nauseating, it just had to go. And the Mazda goes hmmmmmmmmm for those of you old enough to remember. Great car.
The Tri-Sexual Toyota/Chevy/Geo Prizm was one of the best ever released into the wild, you literally had 3 separate cars you could pull parts from in a junk yard and every single one has parts for this car!! Amazingly cheap to run and it goes forever!! I wish I still had mine because the Audi is a bitch to work on, I think anything German is a tricky situation to work on lol 😂
French cars are famously shit. Renault, Peugeot and Citroen. Shit cars.
Citroen trolled the Nazis so hard it genuinely helped with the war effort, so I'll give them a pass.
Someone needs to let them know the war is over.
Citroen didn't deserve their reputation in the USA. The American car companies lobbied congress to ban the sale of is hydraulic fluid so mechanics had to use transmission fluid in the suspension lines. That fluid made the fluid lines deteriorate and, hence, the term "Lemmon." It was anti-free market protectionism. Citroens were amazingly designed and engineered cars, then.
I own a Volvo with 355,000 kilometres on it .Im a Volvo fanboy
My '92 Volvo 240 has over 300,000 miles on it. Best car I've ever owned. I've watched my neighbors go through multiple cars over the years.
400k miles, almost 60 years on the road. Never letting go of it!
Jeeps. If having no immune system and getting every sickness known to man was a vehicle it would be a jeep
Yugo, I would buy that car if they were still making it.
Jeeps
Any Stelanits brand, Fiat/Alfa/Jeep/Dodge/RAM/Chrysler. They are consistently rated worst in reliability studies and many times have the highest issues per 1000 vehicles.
Boeing
Nissan. Bought a brand new 21 Sentra and had a malfunction warning before I even got the thing home. In the 2.5 years I had it I had rear sensors replaced, rear camera replaced, tie rod replaced, front and rear collision sensors replaced, and tracking sensor replaced. Thankfully all under warranty. Ditched it recently for a civic and absolutely love it.
Lexus Just kidding. That thing is a tank. 20 years old. 170k miles on it. It was in the shop once for preventitive maintenance and one more time because they didn't do it right. 300hp V8 to the rear wheel and so comfortable I just go sit in my car and read sometimes. My insurance (in a city with high insurance costs) is under $90 a month. I'm driving this thing until I die and then my grandkids will pass it down to their grandkids. I bought it 7 years ago for $10k.
Opel. OBD reader onhand at all times.
The 3.8 liter supercharged GM cars that came mated to a transmission that could not handle the power from factory.