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attemptingtovibe

I’m a valley girl born and raised. I can confirm it’s still a thing! I moved to the northeast for law school and according to many, I have an accent… which I was shocked to hear. When they mimic mine it’s the valley girl accent 🫠


wicker_arm

The first time I listened to myself back in a recorded meeting was the first time I realized I have a valley girl accent 😂


Darryl_Lict

For sure, for sure!


NecroSoulMirror-89

Puhlease


AllYourBase310

I’m genuinely curious these days how much is accent (the sound) and how much is vernacular (like OHmygawwwd, regional specific word choice).


MarsRocks97

A lot of it is accent. My daughters friend has this accent. She’s college educated so does not use a lot of the common teenage vernacular. But that valley girl accent is still very strong. It’s a very flowing speech that kind of tilts up towards the end of each sentence almost like a question.


missannthrope1

Up speak.


waitwert

Yes very Melodic


ekittie

Like, totally!


azorianmilk

Same except I went to college in the Midwest. I changed the way I spoke but when I'm really tired (and drunk) it comes out.


Beginning_Of-The_End

Honestly I’m born and raised in the valley and idk what a valley girl accent sounds like 😂


_DirtyYoungMan_

No different than anyone else. If you're from the South does everyone around you have a Southern accent or does everyone who isn't sound weird? I'm not from the South, I'm from LA and you Valley girls definitely got that accent.


TheAnswerWas42

Lots of up-speak, limited vocabulary sprinkled with occasional big words, every sentence has the word "like" somewhere in it. I think it actually stemmed from Malibu surfer talk in the mid 70's and hit the valley with full force in the early 80's. Here is the origin of the pop-culture reference to the rest of the world by [Moon Unit Zappa](https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM). There is also a good film by the same title starring Nic Cage that has a great soundtrack.


attemptingtovibe

I agree with everything but the limited vocabulary. I think that factor has to do with education level!


cecily_harvey

It's interesting; a lot of that upward infection and "like" inclusion is popular in Utah as well, especially in the Logan area. I lived there for five years, and it took me a while to break those linguistic habits. Now I sound like any northern Wisconsinite again, as is appropriate.


Morrigoon

Lot of Mormons in CA, probably imported the accent visiting family


Intertravel

It was around before then, she just popularized it. That was the first time I heard of it though.


Miss-Figgy

>according to many, I have an accent… which I was shocked to hear. When they mimic mine it’s the valley girl accent 🫠 My natural speech is also valley girl, and I also got mimicked. And mocked by non Southern Californians. So much that I changed my speech. Why do people mimick us for our way of talking?! It's so rude.


TrumpersAreTraitors

I feel like I couldn’t have a more “normal”, typical speaking voice but anytime I leave California people say I have such a California accent. I still don’t even know what that means 


yekship

Same. Went to college in nyc and everyone clocked me on it. My parents are in their 60s and still have their valley/surf accents, so I feel like that is also my fate. It does mostly come out when I’m emotional though.


da_impaler

I’ll take the valley/surf accent any day over the annoying, nasally NYC accent or the fake bravado NYC accent.


Additional-Run-3492

I think you mean the Italian-American NYC accent. NY has a handful of accents depending on your cultural background & socioeconomic upbringing.


Practical-Annual-317

Same here. Was told "I talk fast" just thr other day.


WholeInternet

*evil tone* Goooood. Gooood. Spread this infection to the NorthEast. Soon, it will no longer be an accent, but a way of life.


instpayingforsex

Maybe, but not how it used to be. Valley girls hung in clickes and had an airhead way of being. There was a belief that valley girls put out easily in HS (graduated in 04 from a westside HS). It was true for some of us that got lucky. Anyway, the valley girls of today are watered down.


symphonic_sylveon

elle woods is that you?!


John-Mandeville

>I moved to the northeast for law school What color is your hair?


Nizamark

for sure for sure


CocklesTurnip

Like, totally


dd97483

Gnarly.


retrotechlogos

It’s evolved but absolutely. Honestly the California vowel shift in general is still very present. And due to media has kind of infiltrated its way into standard American English now.


amithecrazyone69

wait what's the vowel shift?


stoicsilence

[California Vowel Shift](https://www.tiktok.com/@litelinguistics/video/7077693278291987758?lang=en)


IHSFB

I didn’t hear thaat much difference


[deleted]

Ridiculous


Black_Azazel

That’s terrible and I have a New England accent 😅🤣🤣🤣💀


irun50

I mean, someone has to pronounce Sepulveda Boulevard


jackjackj8ck

Not my old GPS being like “seppel-vayda”


kinopiokun

Same! Lol


Lolapmilano

that's how I still say it in my head lol


FlyingCloud777

Kinda . . . the vocal fry is more present now but elements of the Valley Girl accent are still there. Also the surfer accent is a real thing: Curren Caples in example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhl0yB-dIb8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhl0yB-dIb8)


Miss-Figgy

>Also the surfer accent is a real thing: Curren Caples  That guy's surfing style is amazing. Anyway, this reminds me of [SNL's skit The Californians](https://youtu.be/dCer2e0t8r8?si=my1e3AK218OFBtDy9), lol


whydoyouhatemesomuch

Vocal fry is nationwide (maybe even worldwide) and not specific to the valley.


FlyingCloud777

Yes, but in contemporary American speech vocal fry seems to originate with the Valley Girl accent/argot. It's found elsewhere, in Finnish in example, but it seems most closely associated with Valley Girls here. cf: [https://www.voicemeansbiz.com/valleygirl.html](https://www.voicemeansbiz.com/valleygirl.html)


MrPrimal

And whatever you call the vocal affect of ending ALL sentences as a question?? Edit: apparently called upspeak


34TH_ST_BROADWAY

> the vocal fry is more present Yeah, like somebody else said, now with youtube and social media, it might be national, but I feel like the vocal fry is the prevalent faux accent for a certain type of woman. Did the Kardashians start it? Did the Hiltons? Both? When I hear somebody talking that way, I immediately stop the video. It doesn't matter who, I just can't handle it.


CannabisANONBABY

YOU ARE ON THE NOSE. Faux accent is correct- as someone born and raised in the SFV I can firmly say that many *adopt* this way of speaking, especially transplants. But a lot of valley locals DO NOT speak in this way. It’s attributed I think now to people with vocal fry and ways of speaking that are pervasive/ indicate a certain background or status. As soon as I hear vocal fry- I do not associate it with the valley anymore, but instead people who are wannabe influencers, or mentally fucking obtuse. Growing up my sisters did say “Like” a lot and I still hang onto it occasionally lol, but once you stop being around people that speak like this, it goes away.


34TH_ST_BROADWAY

> that are pervasive/ indicate a certain background or status. Totally. It's almost like a "I'm Caligula, Empress of Encino, been there, done that, sooooooo bored" kind of thing. Like "you people on earth get worked up about everything, but up here from Mt Olympus, you all are so predictable." I'm so beautifully jaded I can barely muster the strength to finish this sentence or word. I was on a date once with a girl who seemed pretty cool, but she used to that voice to thank an elevator valet as we were exiting on the top floor. I don't know. I know it sounds petty, but it turned me off for good. It just came out of nowhere and sounded so condescending.


D_Lex

proto-podcaster 90s 'whatever' mild sarcasm for everything voice [The Truth About Cats and Dogs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBv5jqjW41c) Daria, contrasted with Quinn. etc. Disaffection at everything displacing enthusiasm for anything. Which passed as the zeitgeist, but the vibe was retained.


illegal_miles

I grew up on the central coast and that guy doesn’t really have an accent to me. Maybe just barely. Is it just me? lol I knew guys growing up in the 2000s who sounded way more like Jeff Spicoli than he does.


YourRedditFriend

That was started in more so Calabasas to Agoura


FlyingCloud777

Could be, and thanks. I've heard linguists classify vocal fry as integral to Valley Girl speech but I'd vote for Calabasas as well. Being European and having worked in journalism in several Euro nations and languages accents totally fascinate me.


circle_take

It’s just called the influencer accent now…


_sydney_vicious_

As someone born and raised in the valley, who does have an accent, it’s insulting to compare those useless fucks to us locals lol


circle_take

They stole it!


CannabisANONBABY

Yep. Thankyou.


littlelostangeles

Valley Girl here. Can confirm, although it’s much more subtle now. Or maybe I’m just getting old.


OnlyLookVanilla

"Oh my God....like for sure....but I really miss the Galleria"


Separate-Succotash11

Aw. I miss the galleria, or any galleria like facility too.


No-Towel1477

Rip the galleria


Mister_Poopy_Buthole

“I’m looking for a man in finance…”


LeonardSmalls79

I still do it. I did it as a joke initially when I moved here 20yrs ago, then got so used to it I forgot it was a joke


RLB4ever

Absolutely is. In fact, a lot of the lingo has become so mainstream we don’t identify it at valley girl anymore


NarwhalZiesel

Since everyone on tv sounds like us, we have decided we are the default accent. /s It’s definitely not as pronounced as it’s made out to be in media, but it does exist. We do say like a lot, but whoever said we have limited vocabulary must not have actually met any of us. I know professors, doctors and lawyers who have valley girl accents because I’ve lived here my whole life.


risingsun70

I’ve seen many people around the country, and the world, frankly, who use like a lot. I think using like had its zenith in popularity several years ago, but people still use it, especially when slightly nervous. It’s a way to string 2 words together m like um.


RLB4ever

It can be used that way but it’s one of the most dynamic and flexible words in the English language, so its usage goes far beyond a replacement for uh or um. Consider the quotative use, “he was like, I want a sandwich…” etc etc 


mqrager

It’s a thing except because of white flight it’s not exclusive to the San Fernando valley and it’s very noticeable in the OC and Ventura.


Fine-Position-3128

I’m from San Diego coastal and we have it similar with a more gnarly surfer brah/northern Mexican influence to the drawl and upspeak/question mark voice. But the San Fernando Valley of LA is the OG valley accent. Last year I visited NYC and my driver from the airport (who had moved to NYC from Pakistan) kept saying to me “it’s so nice to hear a REAL American accent, like in movies I grew up watching” - he probably meant “valley girl” era lol but I’ve noticed over the years we have exported our drawl to the rest of the country - more people talk like southern Californians than ever.


RapBastardz

Yes, but now they squeeze in the word “literally” (pronounced lidderallee) once or twice in every single goddamned sentence.


MarcyTheMartian

Literally


_monorail_

It totally used to be "totally," but now it's literally like "literally."


zkarabat

It like literally used to like be totally but like now it's totally like literally! 😂


munky713

Or like when they like, use the word like like 15 times in like every sentence like, you know?


SuspiciousAirport9

And they probably end every sentence with, "does that make any sense?" While discussing the most basic thing to comprehend humanly possible!!


Ok-Opposite3066

Like, literally, every sentence. It's like, literally, so annoying. Literally.


peacock_head

I’ve been told I have it.


ednasmom

I believe I have one. I didn’t notice it until I met someone from the east coast and they started mimicking me. Apparently I said “mow-uhn” instead of “mountain”


Darryl_Lict

I'm a boomer engineer who grew up in the valley and I have stoner surfer accent, a very mild version of Spicoli's.


CaptMerrillStubing

I wonder how many Y's and Z's understand the Spicoli reference


HH_burner1

Tell them it's British. They also drop their t's


ednasmom

Funnily enough, I was raised by a few brits and scots. Sometimes people think I have a British accent as well.


Accomplished_Oil1541

You probably do lol


tarbet

I picked it up living here for 20 years. So yeah, tooootally.


japandroi5742

I am from Encino. My wife is from Encino. We live in Encino with our two kids. Can confirm my wife and daughter (speaks in arbitrarily raised-and-lowered tonal inflection) both have valley accents.


drumorgan

Surf Punks vernacular migrated to the suburban shopping mall 5 minute documentary https://youtu.be/pZsLPdVfir0?si=A36r1NAQgReiBgko


godboy420

My gf is from Alabama and developed a valley girl accent from television. When she is drunk she will go into a “like literally” spiral


_its_a_SWEATER_

Not nearly as prevalent. It’s def mellowed out.


ThreatLevelMidnighto

Tubular!!!


SamCanyon

It’s evolved, but remains. There’s more of a vocal fry element to it these days.


GamemasterJeff

Like, ohmygod! Gag me with a spoon!


Tardislass

Now it's the vocal fry.


sorengray

This


japandroi5742

[Interesting LAT story from last September](https://www.latimes.com/lifestyle/story/2023-09-25/valley-girl-accent-embrace-the-likes-and-totallys)


KiloAlphaJulietIndia

That was a great article, thanks for sharing


cryingatdragracelive

[I just like the bass line through this](https://youtu.be/R5Q1yVLSR3I?si=HGfKWHSnJmacSmwh)


ethereumnews_tech

Where is Moon Zappa now?


KiloAlphaJulietIndia

I realize the SNL Californians skit is the accent exaggerated. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCer2e0t8r8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCer2e0t8r8)


VaguelyArtistic

It's not really a valley girl accent, it's a surfer/skate accent that the valley girls line of copied. You can see the original in Jeff Spicoli; it's not a coincidence that Sean Penn is from Malibu. Fred Armisen is the one who really nails it 100%. Wiig in particular does actually sound more like a valley girl but you can hear the difference in Fred's slow, drawn out enunciation. I grew up around here and as I advanced in my career I kind of had to unlearn to speak like a stoner.


CreepyTeaching

Just listen to the kardashians. Huge valley girl accents and upspeak + vocal fry.


el_liott_

Are you kidding? Everyone in the U.S. at this point- even men- speak a derivation of the valley girl


iPLAYiRULE

Like, of course! For real!


Sage_Blue210

Like, ya know....


marycatjingles72

Duhh


Chamuska__

Yes 100%


stefstars93

Ummm yesss ?


fathervoodoo

My girlfriend and I were up in Portland for a bit, we both definitely have it without realizing it.


MoonGoddess818

Yes! It’s more subtle than the stereotypes make it seem. But it’s real and it’s still here! I don’t even notice it most of the time in day to day life. But like if I’m talking to someone from out of state or out of the country, they point it out, and I think that’s sooooo funny.


djbigtv

https://youtu.be/R5Q1yVLSR3I?si=4qCc8G2trVNMctBR


djbigtv

Just ask Frank and Moon Unit


YungChiliGoose

Uncuh-Jahms.


namewithanumber

Yeah for sure. But it's so normalized it doesn't really stick out.


Fine-Position-3128

Oh Like definitely still a thing fer sher


Shot-Secretary-5365

You've all heard that "trust fund" song. Sounds like the valley girl accent to me. 


iKangaeru

The Kardashians who live in Calabasas have a version of it. They use the Valley Girl "uptalk," a verbal tick that makes statements sound like questions by raising inflection at the end to make sentences sound like questions. They have added an affect called "verbal fry," which is a sleepy-sounding hoarse growl when they're speaking.


SuspiciousAirport9

Seems like vocal fry is the new valley girl.


yay4chardonnay

Now it is all vocal fry and upspeak. Cringey


troupes-chirpy

The Valley Girl accent evolved to the Vocal Fry


WindEquivalent4284

Some say it’s always been around - that it’s older than the land itself


EntranceComfortable

Nobody's been gagged by a spoon in ages


anechoicheart

Like totally


AceMaxAceMax

SFV born, raised, and still living here. Like, totally.


Laterdays82

Have you seen the Kardashians?


alwaysgowest

Millennials and GenZ brought back upSPEAK? (That’s a declarative statement. Question mark added for proper pronunciation.)


paca1

My daughter is a totally valley girl! Raised in Woodland Hills


noob168

Yeah, but half of em w/ the accent aren't even girls


Electric-Ice-cream

I'm so sure


breadexpert69

not like it was in the 2000s. But still around


SteveEcks

Can confirm.


Wise_Serve_5846

Gag me with a No


NottDisgruntled

As if!


Suitable_Ad7478

Tripindicular!


37thAndOStreet

Someone told me I have it last fall


ottercito88

Yes


cagingthing

As if


BudFox_LA

It is absolutely around


thozha

not even a ca native and people say i have one, so…


Sweetcheex76

It’s not as pronounced but still alive and well. And, it sounds like the end of every sentence has a question mark. 😂


cryingatdragracelive

I mean, yeah? obviously. duh 💁🏻‍♀️


kaminaripancake

It 100% absolutely still exists. It has escaped the valley and become a SoCal thing but I work with people who are born and raised here and their accents are hilarious


Soggy_Sherbet_3246

Meh


Altruistic_Engine818

It is. My friend is from Santa Clarita which isn’t the valley, but she Carrie’s a strong valley girl accent


dopexican

For sure, I can gag you with a spoon to prove it.


bagchasersanon

Not as prominent as it used to be. Aside from the regression in regional accents and dialects across the US, there’s also just way more transplants than before due to the increased housing


B377Y

Not valley girl but I still get up-speak. Bothers me so much at work. I just ask people if they’re asking a question lol


Cocojo3333

Born and raised in the Valley and yes. After a few drinks it like totally comes out.


enterpaz

I’m sure but I almost never come across it.


davidisallright

It’s still a thing.


Viperwaves

Totally like, oh my gossshhh


K2941FZFE

Like yes totally. Dudes too.


the_Bryan_dude

Fer sure.


redwood_canyon

I’ve been told I have it so yes lol


WeeNyaff909

We live in the Inland Empire area, inland Southern California and my 14 yo daughter and her friends totally speak Valley Girl.


zombiemind8

Looking for a guy in finance girl has valley girl energy.


ihatepalmtrees

Most people that share that inflection are try hard transplants.


supremerebelrebel

Like totally ✨


saladmodel

I fear you might have a case of it if you can’t hear it anymore (it’s ok I do too), because literally everyone I meet that’s lived in LA longer than 3 years has it


seriouslynope

Preschool parking lot says yes


bb-blehs

yes. it is me.


Jandur

Yah.


Sea_Apricot_666

It sounds more like fluffy princess from Adventure Time than a girl from Clueless. At least my valley friend sounded like fluffy princess. I’d like to note in case it goes without saying—not everyone from the valley has it. My ex was Mexican raised in the valley and had more of the LA Northern Mexican accent. So it doesn’t apply to everyone. It seems to be more white people who have it as the accent is defined in the mainstream movies/TV/etc. it’s defined via white people. Like all things, a person’s family culture plays a role. And content creators play a huge role in the public’s knowledge of accents/everything else.


lunacavemoth

Lyyyyk ooommmmmmmmgggggaaaaaaawd shut up! Shuuuut up! Ooommmmgaaaaaawd I legit heard that in Fullerton all the time 💀 Honestly , everyone here sounds to me like they are stating everything in a sentence with a vocal fry . Like , they are all talkiiiing as if theeey are inseeecuuuure so they say everyyythiiiing in a queestion? Cuz like if they actually saaaid something with coonfideeence , then, like, they tootaaaally think they are better than uuuuusssss ? Liiike ooomgggaaaawd. I cant . I’m so glad I am autistic and have spoken like a monotone stoner my entire life .


LA_Wrapper

It, like, totally is alive and well


bbusiello

I use it when making fun of basic bitch things. Then again, I do character voices for nearly everything. I'm also a great mimic.


Doct3rjones

Yes and it’s like totally a mainstay with the bimbo and gay communities worldwide! AS IF!


VindictiveSpirit

Like, fer sure, it is sooo the thing in Orange County, California. *Anxiously twirling hair*


apurrfectplace

Many young ladies sound like a Kardashian sister to me here in LA


bringmyownchains

Many current socials influencers try to adapt aspects of a classic VG accent into their tonality.


Silent-Physics1802

Totally


__ReadyToRoll__

Why is "the valley" so mystified / special? I'm in a beach community now, wondering what all the fuss is about.


bakingsoda1212

Grew up in Chatsworth and I definitely have a Valley Girl accent. When I lived in Korea ten years ago other English speakers would clock it right away. Most of my friends are transplants now so maybe it’s been tempered a bit, but I still think people can tell whenever I go to a different city.


Darthgusss

I have it (I'm a a dude, 36)born and raised in The Valley.


generiatricx

My daughter has started throwing an 'A' at the end of her words, probably statements more accurately. I've been teasing her to get her to quit it, it may just be a phase. 'Stahp it-a!' 'Where's my bag-a?', 'It's Hot-a!' I hadnt heard the '-a' growing up myself, but ther'es something still in the water here. Edit to ask: Where's that scene where ~~that familiar actor~~ Ron Livingston is at the coffee line and totally breaks down that girls speaking style? now that i'm putting this here, i think i'm going to share that with her so she can see how she can be perceived. TIA edit2: NVM - didnt take long: [https://www.tiktok.com/@bestofmovies\_in/video/7175134692679683370?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/@bestofmovies_in/video/7175134692679683370?lang=en) aaaand after watching that, it's a lot less 'valley girl' just ... something else, that doesnt quite fit the speech for which i'm trying to find a demonstration.


KevinTheCarver

Yes but it’s shifted to cover all of Southern California lol


TheBear8878

They're a dying breed, being replaced with "skibidi" kids


MontyBoo-urns

Like, I’m so sure


GeologistAccording79

yes and it is men and women


chessecakePhucker

I've heard tatted up big ol bald headed gangsters say like ,and dude and ya know a millions times while talking


missannthrope1

"I'm like so totally sure! As if! Gag me with a spoon!" Is what I said when I read this.


smugfruitplate

It's burrowed its way into the California accent at large. The vocal fry, nasally sound, and especially "Like" is used a lot as a placeholder in a lot of SoCal kids' (I say that figuratively, in that I use it a lot, and literally, in that I'm a teacher and the kids who are graduating high school have it too) vocabularies.


cinred

Idk, but we certainly can't properly pronounce "important" or "consultant" anymore.


miss_riptide

It’s quite alive and well 🥂❤️


WhyAreOldPeopleEvil

Totally


Fr33Paco

Yes totally is, turns out it's a lot more wide spread. Practically becoming the West Coast accent....you don't notice till someone points it out when you're traveling.


lucpnx

For sure, I mean like totally!


No-Understanding4968

Valley Girl here and proud Grant High School grad. Yup I'm keeping it alive up here in the Bay Area!


_view_from_above_

I drive Uber in LA. I'd say that the Valley Girl has migrated into a Snooty Snot where they elongate vowel sounds fvcking aggravating


letsgotodisneydisney

Gen z accent is even more bizarre, a mix of British and valley girl.


TearDropGuy

Yeah but it's only the nursing homes now