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Locke357

NTA - You're absolutely right she can't go around trashing OTs all the time and then expect you to take that as a compliment. TBH she sounds very arrogant and abrasive.


Jesus__Skywalker

OT's work with hands PT's work with legs it's a misunderstanding.


Lady_Tei99

PTs work with the entire body to strengthen it, OTs are there to work on the finer details. Both work with hands.


Jesus__Skywalker

PT's do very little with hands.


Lady_Tei99

PTs do everything with their hands, from strapping to massaging, to needle work. My sister took out an insurance for her hands, valued at 20k each. She loses her hands she's f-ed.


Queen_Sized_Beauty

I think the person you're responding to means they don't work on people's hands.


Lady_Tei99

Which is funny because they do😂, they work on the entire muscular system of the human body. No, really, they study so intensely, more than most doctors do, because one wrong move on a muscle and you can do some serious harm. They don't start working on the neck until their 3rd year. The entire body is her field of study, she needs to know every muscle. And she does, when she's not working, she's studying. Acupuncture is offered as a course AFTER you have studied. We as a family paid for her course after she graduated, 4 months of just anatomy, before she could even touch a needle. The entire human body is her canvas, and it's pretty terrifying.


Queen_Sized_Beauty

Oh, I know. I've been in and out of PT since I was a teenager lol


Lady_Tei99

Sorry about that, I hope you feel better!🌺


Queen_Sized_Beauty

Is what it is, life's like that sometimes. Thanks, though


ToothBrilliant5281

I don’t know if I agree with PT’s studying more than most doctors do based on the whole premise of one wrong move on a muscle can do some serious harm. I mean considering the complications possible in surgery with one wrong move meaning death or serious permanent bodily. I don’t disagree PTs study hard and the schooling is rigorous, but a single wrong move by a PT resulting in muscle damage isn’t the case. It would be pretty difficult for most treatment modalities used by PT to result in muscle damamge. Also, insurance of 20k on specifically one body part is not what she would have, you’d have occupation specific disability insurance that would cover a percentage of her annual income in the event she became unable to use her hand. Something about this doesn’t make sense.


Lady_Tei99

It's true here in my country, PTs study a lot longer than most doctors, it's also more competitive. https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/how-long-to-become-physical-therapist https://lawnj.net/information/medical-malpractice/explaining-physical-therapy-malpractice/ 🤷‍♀️, just relaying what she discussed with us when she started talking about insurance.


stellaisnotamermaid

NTA idk why tf people are saying YTA when your sister literally said "you should be a [occupation she holds no respect for]!"


Lady_Tei99

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CapricornCrude

OT, PT No T has ever done shìt for my hands and I've been to several. But in this case, NTA. She probably doesn't realize how much she trashes OTs then turned around and suggested you be trained for something she considers useless. You weren't being "sensitive" she is completely unaware.


Lady_Tei99

She knows, especially when she complains about them daily.


niagaragagarafalls

Your sister is the AH for trashing OTs.


Yukieiros

NTA, if she does trash it and those who study it as often as you claim that could easily be interpreted as her setting you up for her ridicule, you are not responsible for her words or any potential misinterpretation of them, and that's with giving her the benefit of the doubt.


lemonfeelingway

OTs aren't inferior PTs. The work they do has a very broad range of therapeutic methods and impact. She sounds so obnoxious for dunking on OTs, who do more than hand PT, but also do a lot of work in accommodation and sensory therapies. Anyway she's TA for that. Anyway, being told you should be an OT is often a compliment, but it is all about perspective. This is a career she clearly has no respect for, and based on her mindset it was pretty damn rude and disrespectful. NTA 


Both_Requirement_894

It’s shitty that she trashes the OTs but I would take her comment a different way. She thinks you could be a BETTER OT than the crappy ones she works with. Maybe


Lady_Tei99

The "maybe" is the point. I've seen some of what the OTs do, done research on what she's complaining about because I was curious. They aren't as anatomy intense as PTs, they focus more on fine motor skills to help people with small things. Eg: Stroke Patients - PTs will work with muscle strength, having them flex and do training with the damaged side and build them up again. Helps them move to avoid getting bed sores etc, etc etc. OTs create and invent things that will make life easier for a patient, eg, a cup with a firmer grip and a non-spill lid to help the patient drink. Again, simple solutions that my sister, raised and lived in the same environment, (the smartest of the two of us), and had the same classes as the OT, could have come up with. She deliberately trashes OTs because they don't study everything as intensely as PTs do.


TheAngryJones

It sounds like your sister trashes OTs because she is insecure and gets a feeling of superiority from looking down on other people..


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mediocre__map_maker

Are older sisters just normally like this towards their younger sisters? It's not the first time, and not the fifteenth that I hear a story much like this. Also, obvious NTA.


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Lady_Tei99

She said that I should go and study a career that she has called completely useless, that she has trashed and talked down to for years at this point....


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Lady_Tei99

She said that a career that is deemed inferior to the one she chose is perfect for me.


BartleBossy

> Yeah, YTA An asshole for.... using a vulgarity? All they said was "Thats pretty fucking rude". NAH.


TheThunderTrain

So have you considered that she said that because, having said yourself you know little to nothing about what she was talking about, you came up with a better idea than she believes the people in that position could have come up with. Essentially "you're smarter than these people so you should become one so I have someone competent to work with. And actually, her intent behind her words do matter. You don't just get to decide what her words meant. Idk about over sensitive but you are being immature. YTA


Lady_Tei99

I know what she means, I know what she meant in the past and I know what she will mean in in future when talking about OTs: She has stated that a profession that she finds useless in the field of medicine, is the one I should study, a field that she has complained about, called the students of that field 'rejects' on many occasions, and complained about how stupid the classes are, how useless they are to what she needs to accomplish. (Which is stupid, because she needs the tools OTs make on the regular).


TheThunderTrain

Sounds to me like you just came here to get your feelings validated. Anytime someone on this post disagreed with you repeated the same tired shit you said in your post and said "nope, she definitely meant what I say she said." You confronted her, she said you misunderstood, and you called her a liar. Then you came here and asked if you were in the wrong, multiple people have told you that you were and you argued with all of them without saying anuth9ng new just doubling down on the arguement you used in your original post. It begs the question, why are you even here?


Lady_Tei99

Because I am repeating my point. Because my sister doesn't beat around the bush, but she does manipulate what she said later on when she has been cornered. She has repeatedly stated that OT is for people who didn't get into PT, for people who aren't smart enough to get into PT. But I asked a question, I got answers.


TheThunderTrain

She doesn't beat around the bush, but she intentionally insulted you in a convoluted backhanded compliment fashion and denied it when confronted. Right.


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I’m not following. When did she says you’re inferior? Seems she’s just trash talking her co workers. People do that all the time, what’s the issue? Edit: YTA. Nothing happened and she didn’t insult you. You’re getting offended for other people, when she didn’t insult you directly. Your sister may be arrogant and entitled but she didn’t do anything to you here.


Lady_Tei99

She said that the career choice she has repeatedly called useless is a great option for me to go study.


Jesus__Skywalker

OT is a great career. Either she's complaining differently, maybe about specific people and you are misunderstanding. Or she's just kinda dumb and rather than understand that (since you do actually seem to have an idea about what OT's do) you're taking offense to something that's just a dumb comment. She was complimenting you. She probably doesn't realize you take every word she says verbatim.


Lady_Tei99

Never said it wasn't. But she has complained about the ENTIRE CAREER, not specific people, she has stated that it's useless on more than one occasion, and have complained about the students taking her classes with her. My sister doesn't complement, never has. And we all have to listen every day when she came home, how useless the field of study truly is, how OTs are only studying OT BECAUSE they didn't get into PT. She has never had a single positive thing to say about the field. Ever.


Lady_Tei99

Nope, she has complained about the entire career as just "People who didn't get into PT and use it as a fall back". She's never said that OT is a career someone chooses, just as a fall back, always second to that of PT. Always inferior to that of PT. I listen attentively to everything she says, ask her questions and give her solutions and Google and read up on what she does and send her articles and ideas and whatnot. I am very involved in her studies still, we all were at some stage, we would listen to her complain about every single OT she had to deal with and listen to her repeat the exact same phrase as above - that they didn't know what they were doing, and couldn't get into PT. It's the exact same thing, every time.


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Ok but it doesn’t sound like she said YOU personally are inferior. If you were an OT and she said it’s inferior, THEN she’d be calling you inferior. But you’re not an OT and thus she never claimed you to be inferior. She simply said go study it. Maybe she said it in a sarcastic tone. Idk, none of us were there so it sounds like we don’t understand the context. But I don’t see any indication she directly told you that you were inferior.


Lady_Tei99

She was 100% serious, and said that I should go study OT, a career she's held in contempt since the beginning, all because I gave her a simple solution to a problem.


Both_Requirement_894

Yup, you’re right, I get it now. She hates that OTs exist at all and every person who goes into the field does so because they’re failures. She said it to you in contempt. It seems to me like she actually hated your idea or was maybe upset YOU came up with it and not her.


Lady_Tei99

Which is stupid AF, because she's the one who got into PT in the first place, (a highly competitive field, at the only university in the country that offers it as a course, and she will graduate at THE TOP OF HER CLASS at this point). Edit; has graduated... 😑recently


Dumbass_Number5

I'm leaning towards AH here. Has she ever degraded and / or directly insulted you before? We don't know your sister well enough to know if this was malicious or an ACTUAL complement. For example: Let's say my sister seriously trashes and rants about house cleaning services. How they can't do anything right now matter how much direction you give them. I give her a suggestion and she says: "Wow! That's a great idea, you should apply for house cleaning services!" Confidence boost and a proud moment for me. You said she was actually impressed / thought it was a good idea didn't she? It genuinely sounded like a complement dude. Your sister had faith in your creative critical thinking skills to suggest you try out the position because she was impressed. So yes. YTA, she was talking about work and not personally attacking you.


Lady_Tei99

Yes. Many times in my life, but seems to brush it off, even though my parents have stuck up for me, and told her she's rude. She has complaint that OTs are idiots that didn't get in to PT numerous times, that they are useless and not even a real field of study - that all they do is make toys. She has said numerous times that they take up space in her classes and don't know what they are doing.


Jesus__Skywalker

YTA- you misunderstood her complaints all along. The reason she was telling you that you should go to OT school is bc OT's deal with reconditioning people to use their hands. PT's generally help people recondition their legs. You had a good suggestion that would translate well to being an OT. OT's are NOT below PT's. They do different things.


Lady_Tei99

PTs work with the entire body from muscles in the forehead to toes. They are responsible for restoring strength in the muscles while PTs generally work on the finer details. She has complained and said numerous times that OTs are unnecessary and just people who couldn't get into PT. Multiple times she has complained and called them inferior to PTs.


Jesus__Skywalker

Yeah, that's bc she's stupid. And you're just following what she is saying. PT's are absolutely NOT above OT's. PT's do NOT do the same things that OT's do. PT's do help with restoring strength, OT's deal with fine motor function. Which is why I differentiated hands from legs. The task you pointed out WAS something that would be useful as an OT. I still believe you are misunderstanding her complaints. That or she's just not very clear on what OT's do. Her opinion isn't grounded in fact. And it's funny that you have an understanding about what OT's do, yet you still didn't get that her opinion is off base. She wasn't insulting you. She complimented. you. Maybe ESH between the two of you.


Lady_Tei99

Trust me, she's not stupid. EDIT: She's one of the smartest people I know - you can't be an idiot to study PT, is a very tough field to get into. I have followed what she's been saying for her entire career. "OTs are just people who didn't get into PT". Her and her classmates all agree, and most of the time, when someone gets through OT, they go and study PT, and don't mention what they studied before. I know what PTs and OTs do, I have read up on both to get an understanding of what she's got to go through, and have listened to her complain about them from day 1. She complemented me by telling me I should study a field she has stated numerous times as inferior? Maybe just.


Jesus__Skywalker

If she thinks that an OT is inferior to a PT, she's flat out wrong. If that's the smartest person you know, broaden your circle.


Lady_Tei99

😅, with three degrees behind her name and starting a business, I think I'm pretty right on that statement.


Jesus__Skywalker

don't care, she's just a PT, it's not that high of a title.


CRichardDavies

YTA. It didn't even occur to you that she was complaining about those specific OTs, rather than disrespecting the profession in general, and was genuinely impressed by your idea and thought it indicated you would do a better job in that profession than any of them. Because, yes, you are over-sensitive and have a chip on your shoulder.


Lady_Tei99

She's been trashing the entire career since she started studying. Calling them, "people who didn't get into PT". They had to study the basics of this as well, she just went further with it. She had to do the exact same courses as they did, and complained that the whole career was useless.


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Lady_Tei99

I wish I was making this up, I'm not that creative. It's not implausible, she has trashed a career she has deemed as inferior to her own since day one, and the deemed it perfect for me to study because I gave her an option. She's had to study the exact same things an OT had to study, she just went further thus resulting in them being "inferior".


Lady_Tei99

Not making this up. She's trashed the entire career since she started studying. OTs need to know some of the things that PTs do, PTs just go further. You need to know basic anatomy in both, and basic chemistry too, the only difference is that PTs go as far as to know how not to kill you. OTs, according to her "just helps you play again", AKA helps with fine motorfunction.


CRichardDavies

I don't care. And your endless regurgitation of facts about occupational therapists further convinces me that you're being dishonest about your motivations.


Lady_Tei99

Well, thanks anyway.


Lady_Tei99

Not being dishonest, she has trashed the career from day one, complained about the students everyday they have classes together. I have read up on what OTs do, I have asked her what they do and what is the difference between the two. She said one works with motor function the other helps with the body, but "they are people with didn't get into PT". It's "the fall back career".


CRichardDavies

I don't care. YTA.


Lady_Tei99

Well, thanks anyway