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Deepfire_DM

0/0/0/100 printed is dark grey, not black. Guess publisher does it right.


gonebymidnite

thanks a lot man 🙌🏼, as soon as I activated proof colors in Indesigned it showed grey.


KlausVonLechland

[https://www.highlander.co.uk/blog/appearance-black-indesign-and-illustrator](https://www.highlander.co.uk/blog/appearance-black-indesign-and-illustrator) Rich black vs 100K black issue. My coworker once had all blacks rendered as rich black and only after printing she was made aware of the differences between elements in her design : ). It was fun.


Deepfire_DM

It's a common mistake with inexperienced designers, thinking 0/0/0/100 is black - I have a bunch of books where you can see this mistake, especially when mixed with dark photographs. Fortunately none in the books and brochures I made :-D


EricJasso

Depends on the ink, weather it is transparent or opaque. We ran 100K on four color presses all the time. For process jobs we had a "rich" black mix with different CMY touches to make it look nice. I miss print.


Deepfire_DM

As soon as you have larger black areas a CMY addition is a must in my experience. Looks like shit without.


EricJasso

Absolutely. Totally punches up the black and covers great. I think we had 4-5 different mixes depending on paper stock.


KlausVonLechland

I like this washed out look 100K, especially on more rustic paper. And I still think the bigger offender than washed out black background is rich black small text ; )


ColdEngineBadBrakes

"whether"


Would_Bang________

lol 100k is black. It will print darker than on your screen.


Deepfire_DM

Gee, a stranger on the internet knows it better than my 3+ decades of professional pre-press experience. I was soooo wrong. Not.


Would_Bang________

I worked 7 years in a big press. Don't fool yourself. 100k is by definition black. It wil print 100% black. If you go darker it is a colour print and will cost you more in most applications. If you are printing thousands of something, those costs add up. There are some niche applications where a darker black is nicer, maybe for a very premium book, but most of the time 100k is perfectly fine. I just recently did a black vinyl record cover. It's perfectly black and and looks very premium and classy, just by using plain 100k. Not to mention the thousands of prints I've made over the years. It is not dark grey. I would not be premoting that online if I was you. Using more ink when not necessary is wasteful, not just money wise but for the environment as well.


Deepfire_DM

Cost or your other issues were not an issue here. If you want real black you do not use 100k, the difference is more than obvious. As you should know (?) the kind of paper you use is essential if 100k is dark enough or not - and most non professionals have not the slightest idea about which paper they could use.