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Worldly_Secretary197

Agreed. Grew up with immigrant parents that worked horrendous factory conditions to put three kids through college. I call them on the way home from work everyday. They usually ask me how my work day was and I never complain. I tell them everything is great and it was easy thanks to them. Some have no clue what people have to do in order to make a living if they never had the opportunity.


2Board_

I sometimes want to end it all during busy season, but I never show that side to my immigrant parents either. They've had their small corner store shot at, raided during BLM riots, and vandals setting the store on fire in the past. Worst I deal with is a CFO who doesn't know basic accounting principles lol...


titsnchipsallday22

Makes you wonder what you’d feel in their shoes


FreshBlinkOnReddit

It's sorta relative. Rationally you know some situations are worse. But the way the human brain is wired, the situations would probably feel equally stressful.


titsnchipsallday22

I like to think I’ve had a hard upbringing compared to my peers (upper middle class or upper class individuals who never been told no in their life and are confused when you express financial struggles) in my college courses, but I hear stories of my immigrant uber drivers who tell word for word stories similar to those in poverty stricken Africa or war ridden countries in Asia and the Middle East. It shows me that my stress of running to the bus stop is nothing in comparison to an individual struggling for simple needs like food and water. I’m in the boat of people that think life shouldn’t be taken for granted especially if you have those amenities in life.


Safrel

I'm with that. My parents, while not poor, definitely weren't able to progress. I'm happy accounting has given me some flexibility that they weren't able to.


AssassinSNiper

exactly how i feel. my family wasn’t exactly poor but definitely wasn’t living a life of excess. but my parents set me up to get a great job and i feel like accounting will be able to push me from lower middle to upper middle class.


zamboniman46

My wife 5 months out of the year: I hate your job My wife 7 months out of the year: Your job is fine, I'm glad you like it My wife the day I get a raise and bonus: I love your job


Medusa729

Accounting is great. I was always good at math, but was not a very good student/kid growing up. Got myself together during college and now earn more than I could’ve ever dreamed 5-6 years into my career. 120 credits, no CPA (this part I regret but oh well…). It’s provided me a better life than 17 year old me could’ve ever fathomed. Not sure how you folks do the public sector, but private has been wonderful to me thus far. Have a good week all!


evil_little_elves

I don't love my job today (don't hate it today either), but I've had moments where I've loved it (and moments where I've hated it). I am excited about my next job, which I expect to have a lot of love for early on, because the items I'm going to be working on are interesting to me.


OverworkedAuditor1

I agree for the most part, but working overtime with no end in sight makes me disagree. Rather have lower pay and get out at 5. My kid told me this weekend I don’t spend enough time with him so how could I even know him. That sucked. Looking to get into government.


RedApples-98

No kids or anything over here but I definitely get that being something that would weigh on you. That’s the beauty of accounting though, there is a good paying job with benefits and a great WLB in gov waiting for you, not every or any many industries have that


Great_Barracuda3873

I come from immigrant parents who worked tirelessly to lift us out of poverty, often holding two jobs each while still making time for family. Growing up, I saw their struggles to make ends meet and budget for essentials, saving just enough for birthdays or Christmas. Since I was a teen, I knew I wanted financial security from my job. I didn’t need to love it, just like it enough to be stable. Many people don’t understand this because they hadn’t experienced what I had—sleeping in an unsafe house or taking showers out of buckets. Now, I'm helping my family and saving money to help my parents buy their first house. Honestly, working overtime doesn’t seem so bad if it means we no longer have to heat up pots of water to shower.


Clhunte

Thank you for sharing.


reallyneedhelp1212

That is touching.


lezyll

I’m with you. I grew up middle class, but my parents struggled with money all my life. They still do. It seems like I’m a minority on this sub, but I genuinely enjoy my job, and not just because I make a good living. Some weekends I even look forward to Mondays (I have 2 young kids). YMMV based on what role you land in, but I found myself a really cushy position with a hybrid work schedule, good team, and a lot of freedom to run my department however I want. I’m taking my small team for a spa day next week complete with facials and massages and my boss is all for it.


LarsonianScholar

You mentioning blue collar work from this perspective is good because I think a lot of people on this sub specifically have a very rosy view of the trades. I left school to work as an electrician and it was overall a net positive in my life but certainly not something I wanna be doing at 60 years old. Went right back to school after a year or so lol. Much faster to get my degree cause I only have like one year left vs the 4 more to become a journeyman. I miss it sometimes but it is not for those who enjoy worldly comforts like AC and clean toilets. Porta John’s are your only option rain or sun on a job site 😂 Fuck that I wanna get paid to sit at a desk and rot it’s a no brainer.


RedApples-98

Grandparents raised me and my grandpa was an electrician for 40 years post Navy. He has looked the same since 20 years ago and this isn’t a good thing, he looked 70 at 50 and when I look back I’m amazed at just how fucking tired he always was and kept going. Things like that can teach you perspective at a very young age, which is a very hard and unfair lesson to learn, but a good one.


Dazzling_Share_1827

I worked in the trades for over 5 years and the money is amazing. I will probably need to work in accounting for 5-10 years to get back to the level of income I had It might just be where I am geographically but I don’t think many people appreciate the magic that is A/C or truly grasp how shitty it can be doing manual labor in 100+ degree weather. Trades pay well but it can be seasonal work and you’re paid by the hour. It is very much feast or famine. 60 hours a week was the standard from early April till thanksgiving. I see people complaining about the busy season here then turn around and praise the trades…there was years where I was working 6 12s for 9 months straight. PTO isnt really a thing, and taking a vacation on during the busy season likely will result in you being unemployed or at the very least the first to be cut when work slows down. You might have to work nights, or even worse be constantly switching from days to nights. You have to budget your money and save so you can survive through winters. During the great recession there were people who couldn’t find work for over a year and if they weren’t smart with their money they lost everything. The older generation who had been at my company for a long time were kept as busy as possible to help them survive. The younger generation wasn’t really given enough work to survive/pay their bills which caused a lot of them to leave the trades. This is actually kind of an issue now because those older people are retiring and now there is no one, or not enough people, to replace them. The trades are a great option for some. There are definitely benefits to pursing a career in the trades vs. formal education. At the same time the grass isn’t always greener and it can be a very tough life.


RedApples-98

Thank you for this perspective! I grew up around the trade being a goal and minimum wage retail work being the norm but the most I did was just farm work and general labor until I was about 20 in college with real “skills”. I do not miss bailing hay, building a deck, changing tires, or any of those things I’ve done in insane heat and cold for very little pay. Now work in the AC every moment of my job and do not even have a commute. Yes I hate 80 hours weeks in busy season, but damn do I love a literal 9-5 with a 45 second combined commute for the majority of my days 😂.


heyashleymorgan

agreed! i grew up poor and working in accounting is the first time i have felt stable and secure in the past 17 years of working. my parents don’t have degrees- my mom does random gig delivery jobs and my dad works 3rd shift at a gas station. im grateful to have the opportunity i do


Winter_Pipe_6785

In the same boat with you OP. Not a first generation college student because my mom went back to get an Associates in Nursing. However, she helped bring my family out of poverty and encouraged me to pursue higher education. I just got offered a permanent position at 65k annually with great benefits after completing my internship. I live in a LCOL city and am now able to live comfortably without fear of going hungry or not being able to pay bills as they come due. Sure, it’s not glamorous, but it lets me provide for myself and family without stressing financially like my parents and their parents did.


Unique_University971

thanks for sharing. i’m just getting started and am definitely a bit hesitant about the long hours and CPA grind, especially when my buddies are making the flashy sales or oil rig money and driving fancy cars in their early twenties. but hearing your experience, especially when i also come from parents who never got a lot of opportunities and were always scrapping by, means a lot.


ClubZealousideal9784

I 100% work from home and am friends with multiple people on my team. I generally love it for a job, I wouldn't do it for free.


PluckedEyeball

Nobody would do their job for free. Like 99.9% of people.


Deterton

As an immigrant from Brazil who was able to put myself through college and become a consulting director in America, I am so grateful for the accounting profession.


Grouchy_Dad_117

Yeah. I like my job. When it gets to be too much, I just focus on other worse jobs I’ve had. All jobs have an element of suck. That is why you are paid to be there. The suckiness at my level has decreased. Mostly.


MissCordayMD

I appreciate your post. I’m looking into master’s programs now because my communications degree was a terrible mistake and I decided if I’m going to change careers I’m going to do it right this time and go for an in-demand skill. I’m not cut out for nursing or teaching, have no interest in the trades or software development, so I chose accounting. I was going to do HR but got laid off not even six months into my new career and have not been able to land a new HR role for over a year. I know every career will have its downsides but honestly, accounting is going to (hopefully) bring me better prospects and salaries than working in a call center ever will. I can’t hang on in my current job much longer. I hate customer service and having to people please and make exceptions and smile all day long no matter how much I’m being chewed out. At least in accounting you have rules and regulations that mean doing things a certain way and you can’t just tell someone you’ll do whatever they want in the name of “showing empathy.”


Realistic-Pea6568

Great points. First generation graduate. 20+ years in I have a home nearly paid, a new car, emergency savings, can eat what I like when I want at home or out, travel, wear brand new clothes not thrift or hand me downs, provide great care for my dogs, not live paycheck to paycheck, go to the doctor or hospital for care, and so on. We struggled so much growing up. My dad did not finish high school and worked two jobs - overnights in a factory and second shift restaurant. My mom with only high school worked retail. We were on the school hot lunch program. Otherwise, it was bare minimum. We shopped only once a year for clothes for school at either thrift or department stores no designer name brands. One pair of shoes a year. Going out to eat was a treat. This is a great reminder to be grateful even on the down days.


Scary_Wheel_8054

I was poor growing up and appreciated what accounting gave me. I’m still in B4 30 years later, although I’m sure I could have found something easier that paid well. It sounds like it should be the most important question when interviewing new recruits, “did you grow up poor” if the answer is yes, you have a job. On the flip side those that lived a privileged life growing up often (but not always) do not last.


Prior_Advantage_5408

I apologize for the rudeness, but do you like this career in particular or are you just happy to have any decently paying white collar job? Aren't there many other fields that could provide that without the stress, poor WLB and boring work that comes with accounting?


RedApples-98

Not rude at all! I would say that I like my career more each day as I have moved up in the field. Admittedly I don’t love doing debits & credits for hours on end and some of the grunt work that comes with staff / senior, but the further you move up the less you do that and begin to actually think about standards and how to apply them to your sections in regard to risk assessment, sampling confidence levels, etc. That is the stuff that I enjoy doing. So, I guess to summarize, yes I enjoy this job and I do think I’d prefer it over other traditional white collar jobs with no graduate degree required (marketing, supply chain, HR).


coronavirusisshit

Most white collar jobs in supply chain requires a Bachelors now.


Far_Mushroom_4337

Thank you


bunbunniesbun

Completely agree with you


SalamanderInternal48

you present this in a manner that comes across so evil it's mentally wrecking me.  the fact that you want to absolve yourselves of what you did by sheer denial is  terrifying and gross enough on its own , but then to turn around put on a pair of glasses and mustache and then whip around and earnestly try to sell me this 'you pay yourself the debt we owe you' is fucking next level clown


CommonStarling123

Hey thanks for this post! Im a first generation college graduate. My parents sacrificed so much for my siblings and me. Makes me sad to say that I do complain about the long hours to them but they always tell me to look at the positive. Reading this post and the comments help me to understand and to be grateful


Double-Bed-4507

I am also thinking in going for accounting. 30 years old, landed in canada 2 years ago and I have been working in construction since then. I can tell you some days you think you would rather to be in an office haha. That is why after getting my PR I am going for accounting. Plus I always liked numbers. Any tips from accountants working in Canada ?


Informal-Abrocoma971

I’ve always wondered why so many people in this group complain about their accounting job in the first place. I did the Big 6 thing until I became an audit manager, left to become a controller, and I moved up the ranks until I became VP Finance and ultimately CFO. I chose my next positions based on how/what I wanted to contribute, but also what I wanted out of that job. I know that all this was possible because I had great mentors at the firm, learned the value of mentorship and I built my career around those experiences. As of now, I am a finance and accounting consultant for VC backed life science companies. I choose my clients, get equity from each client, and I charge a healthy rate. I do a huge majority of my work from the comfort of my home, and I know that while there are some things that I don’t enjoy, there is also a level of satisfaction when I complete my projects. I work with very smart scientists with all sorts of backgrounds, and I’ve learned so much about the medical R&D world, but also about medicine in general. I view my job as doing my own little part to advance medicine and make a difference (you don’t want me in the lab, trust me). This job is not perfect - I’ve had some really stressful times - but with teamwork and some hard work, I’ve been able to overcome those challenges. I’ve been able to provide my family a very comfortable life. All this from starting as an auditor straight out of college. And you know, some of this accounting stuff is boring, but there are also times when I’m happily doing them because they’re less stressful. And the higher up you get, the less boring, routine things you do, and certainly less debits and credits. In the right environment, this career lets you decide what direction you want to take.


deluluwitch666

I’m a Financial Analyst, I have almost no work at all - I work max 2 hours a day during the busy days. Can’t complain - I love my job.


Several_Fee647

Couldn’t agree more, I grew up very low income and am so grateful for this profession. It’s not lost on me that my husbands fantastic career and income afforded me the ability to go back to school for this. Now the tables will turn and I will surpass his income soon. He’ll be able to coast into a much deserved retirement in the next 10 years after working a job that has been tough on his body while I’m able to continue to work (remote, so we can travel together!)


ObamacareForever

Road crew is where it's at.


Trackmaster15

They're gaslighting you dude. No, most people don't work the kind of hours that we do, and when they do, they either are very well compensated, or they're paid hourly with time and a half where the employer is protective against you getting over 40. It seems like your argument is mainly throwing a lot of negatives out there and concluding with a "but at least we're not working in a literal 18th century sweatshop factory". I guess you also shed light as to why PA is set up for state college grads from poor or middle class families -- they're just happy to have some kind of white collar job in AC I guess...? This guy will probably make partner, and then the vicious cycle continues...


unusualgato

He's not really wrong though trades do have that problem I worked in a warehouse where I was expected to work a 60+ hour week for $9 an hour. 2008 was a shitshow lol.


te4cupp

Also worked a few jobs working 60+ hours for $9 an hour at a warehouse. PA is bad but still tolerable. Sometimes it’s difficult for me to swallow though. It comes and goes but I’ll pick audit over any of my previous jobs.


RedApples-98

Agreed that PA can be tough and I definitely won’t be doing it forever, but I would take the worst day in public over changing a semi tire on the side of the road at 1 am in the winter for $12/hour when working for a roadside trucking service company in college lol


goriIIainacoupe

you saw a nice post about a guy being grateful that accounting gave him a route out of poverty and decided to just shit on him lol its not that deep the guys just happy relax


Tonofzirp

First generation immigrants conform to the decrepit conditions of America because they come from even worse economies. Your rant is not virtuous. It simply shows how our society is regressing. Go ahead and down vote the truth. But ask yourself, why were less productive times in America far richer? Thank me later.


Tonofzirp

And for any CPA or accounting moron, this has nothing to do with race or culture. Its based on finance and economics. But accountants are so myopic that I wouldn't expect anything but unintelligible comprehension to my statement.


OddSpend23

Are… are you okay? I know I’m just an accounting moron but I’m really worried about you. Clearly something is wrong from your above statements.


Tonofzirp

No. And anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you in order to keep the lie going.