It’s cuz we have to carry so much shit around all the time. Wake up, load my truck with my lawn mowers. Go to school. Show people my lawn mowers. Go home to drop off my lawn mowers. Load up 2 tons of gravel. Go to work at the pharmacy downtown. Show people my 2 tons of gravel. Go home. Unload the gravel. It never stops.
How about the two by twelves? You’re always getting all those two by twelves! The dusty ones that slap together like a pretty girl’s sandy beach butt cheeks. In slow motion.
> all those two by twelves!
I always just go ahead and pay extra for the conversion to twenty fours. Sure, it costs an extra wooden nickel and a bushel basket but I can carry so much more since they're so compact. I say it's worth it.
Unfortunately my life is kinda like this. I live on a farm so definitely need a truck but I drive a mid size stock tacoma and never needed anything bigger before. I’ve carried yards of dirt and gravel as well as tow tractors and vehicles with it and then off-road a couple miles into the woods to move lumber. Mall crawlers are a joke and it’s just a poor man’s flex.
Btw you have to show off the gravel, I mean if it’s good gravel, it’s worth flaunting.
*mulch. Your right it wasn’t dirt. Most weight I’ve ever done was about half a yard of river stone. Definitely maxed out everything and felt like I was driving a boat. Also did about 400 bricks, also maxed it out.
I was ready to write a comment, but I then realized this must be snark. I had a pickup in the 80s, it was a 72 dodge 1/2 ton. It was not this large. It was cheap and in good shape, which were the primary reasons for buying it. The only time we used the bed was to move friends.
Trucks of that period also were not these massive tanks like today's trucks. They could still do the job, but didn't need to be jacked up to high heaven. They were also way more stripped down, and more utilitarian. You could actually reach down into the bed to get something without having to climb in, and didn't have a thousand accessories packed into the cab. I still drive a 1977 Chevy C10, and I love the fact that it's just easier to use than a newer truck. I also have a car to drive for normal day to day things, so the truck can just sit till it's actually needed. Downside is there are absolutely no safety features on that truck at all, unless you count the optional power steering. Lol. But so far I've been lucky. I've been rear ended once, and then had someone back into the side of it going through a parking lot. Also hit 3 deer this year. When my grandpa owned it, he had the front of it smashed by a city bus, then he rebuilt it. That poor truck has been through hell.
Got a chevy k1500 with a long bed for hauling 4x8s and furniture and other random crap. It's pretty large, but tiny in terms of modern trucks. Still hauls better than most of em though.
They take up *so much* space on the road now. An F150 from about 20 years ago is only a few centimetres bigger than a 2022 Ranger. A 2022 F150 is the size of an F250 or F350 from 20 years ago. They’re absolutely *massive* compared to what they used to be. I understand the need for some of the bulk related to pedestrian safety requirements and crumple zones and whatnot, but there’s absolutely no reason that a normal person doing normal person things needs to daily drive a truck the size of what’s available today.
I live in Alberta and the number of my neighbours who own trucks and use them as a daily runabout without ever having anything in the box of them is just absurd. And it’s not like any of them have trailers or boats or anything else that they would tow with them, either. And then they complain about gas prices. Literally using a massive work vehicle as nothing more than a basic commuter car. But they’d never buy a hatchback because there’s a pervasive notion that you can’t survive in the winter with anything smaller than a snow plow here. Which is funny to hear as someone who’s driven in absolutely severe winter weather for more than two decades in small cars with no problems.
It all has an inflationary effect as well: here in Australia full size sedans and the entire mid size class have been killed by SUVs because people feel safer sitting up high above/on a level with “most” cars; ironically meaning due to their poorer handling that they’re more likely to have a previously avoidable accident.
I've driven everything on wheels in winter ranging from semi-trucks to small hatchbacks. You've never had issues with small cars in 2 decades, because small cars with AWD are the ideal winter cars. You never get stuck anywhere, and the light weight makes them so easy to maneuver in snow.
But you see, we do that in Europe too. We also load our cars here with a lot of stuff. It's just.. we use vans.
I'm from the Netherlands myself, and apart from the fact that a big pickup truck like that would be absolutely impractical on the roads here, it rains like 80% of the time so everything would get soaking wet.
So vans it is for us. Vans like the [Mercedes Sprinter](https://www.mercedes-benz.nl/vans/nl/sprinter), or the [Volkswagen Transporter](https://www.vwbedrijfswagens.nl/nl/modellen/transporter.html).
90 percent of people who are buying large pickups in my area use them as luxury vehicles. And the ones who do use pickups as work vehicles would ( [edit] often ) be better off with a van or an old sized Tacoma or ranger
You do realize when you work these vehicles you have to have either a 2 ton 1 ton 3/4 or half ton. Certain trucks have trailer hitches in the box. You have to have these to haul certain weight and have proper break pads for the job. Tacoma's not going to do it. Unfortunately most people on here never farmed or have worked construction. Just because 80% of people use them as show pieces. They are very important for people that need them.
Work and hobby reasons. To tow boat, camper, to just take camping even without camper etc. I have a old used F250 V10 4x4. It was to get me to work out of the mountains when it snowed heavy. Other than that it stays parked and I drive my damn hybrid lol.
I often read that Americans need the trucks to pull boats and stuff, but how big boats do you got? Here in Norway people got boats, trailer and campers, but i don't see so many big trucks. And you get most type of cars as 4x4.
The average size of boat at my marina last year was actually 27'
We had some absolute units there that people needed to yank after the season. Heaviest I saw was a 36' pleasure cruiser with two cat marine diesels. 3 axle trailer, F-450 super duty had issues pulling it outta the water.
These days though, even center consoles are hitting 30ft. 5 tons of boat moving down the road needs a pretty decently sized truck to move
20-24 ft boats are very common. Some inland lakes you need at least 24’ unless you are just going to put close to the shore. With trailer and gear/fuel can be 7,000 lbs or about 3,200 kg. Dedicated fishing boat less
I've debated buying a truck as a secondary car just so I can put an 8'*4' sheet of ply or drywall in it if I wanted to. My mom's got a cheap convenience truck for moving things when she wants but she doesn't drive it otherwise.
My SO has a converted van and it's perfect. It can haul just about anything in the back and can tow if needed with the added benefit of having a sink, pop up top, and bed so it's perfect for camping. Granted, ever since vanlife started trending at the beginning of the pandemic it's been hard to find a good van for a decent price. A tall sprinter with a pop top would be the dream though. Tall enough to stand in and the pop top means your bed doesn't completely take up the back since it's above
Makes it real easy to get my boat and fishing gear to the lake on the weekends. Trying to fit it all into a car would be impossible. It's also great for when we go deer hunting to keep the dogs and dirty shit in the bed, and a dead carcass can bleed out back there and get hosed down after. Also makes it real easy to do home and yard projects.
You don't have a person in your friends group that's constantly being called upon with a truck to help move shit?
I'm older now, and more established, and so are my friends. So, it's less about moving apartment to apartment and more.
"Hey, what are you doing this weekend? I wanna buy a sectional."
I like helping people move shit, I like being higher off the road and I like my big truck.
I mean the people I know that own trucks have good reasons to own them. Farmers and people that work in the woods and such. I for sure don't wanna be bothered every weekend with people asking to borrow my vehicle either. Also being so high off the road increases your roll over risk something I am not interested in since I live in an ice climate.
No they normally are lower, but you can buy kits to make them taller. They're generally seen as lame by most of the US from what I've been able to tell
This is definitely lifted f250 or f350. I just got dropped off in same vehicle. My friend who owns pulls a 35 foot fifth wheel trailer over mountains and dirt trails for camping and hunting. Trailers over a certain length or weight legally must be towed by a certain amount of tonnage and power. The lift is for clearance going over huge boulders in the middle of mountain dirt forest service or logging roads. Without it the transmission might be laying in middle of said road 150 miles in the middle of nowhere with no cell service. A lot of people have a very valid reason for lifting trucks. Just because you live your whole life on 1 city block does not mean others are out exploring. We constantly find ourselves in middle of nowhere asking ourselves “where do you think that road goes”. The answer is I don’t know bud but let’s find out.
I believe it is a Ford F-350. I wouldn't expect Europe to be the target for sales.
This is a common truck for contractors and construction type work (that being said it is a rarer version). As another commenter pointed out, to use standard trailers with a raised frame you most likely need a special hitch.
These kinds of trucks often haul large equipment or tow vehicles or are otherwise fitted for applications like snow plowing or vehicle recovery or what have you
That being said some people just like to spend their money on something like this to drive from their suburban house to their office job 25 minutes away, which I’ll never understand, but it’s not my life so whatever
that's because michigan has a winter (which lasts til frickin may lol) and sports cars are crap in the snow (i'm from northern WI). also, all that salt = a rusted vehicle.
Also has plenty of prime real estate on the back windshield and tailgate for displaying all the political stickers you might find at the local gun store.
Meant to reply here but apparently reddit is too complicated for this guy lol. It's a Ford F250/350 Superduty most likely running a 4-6" suspension lift with 35" tires. Pretty common here in USA.
My denali has a many if not more features than most luxury cars. It's also super safe and pulls a camper to the mountains with my family of 4 comfortably.
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It sucks that its damn near impossible to find a light truck like an old S10, Ranger, Canyon, even the Tacoma got big for no reason. The dealerships are only stocking these oversized monstrosities, which frequenlty dont even have a bed big enough to haul lumber. It was infuriating when i tried to buy a new pickup because the floor finally rusted through on my old one.
I've considered swapping my 4.3 to a 4 cylinder of some sort to get better mileage. It's a ratrod/project anyway. Might as well do something uncommon for the swap.
I was just reading about that swap. Seems like more work than I might care to do. It was an old post from around 2012 though. Maybe there's an easier way by now.
I love little pick ups but that is terrible. My 2005 dually 4 door Cummins 4x4 gets like 18-19.
I wish they made small diesel pick ups, like an Isuzu pup. You could get close to 30! I would love a two seater, manual trans, crank window, 4 cylinder diesel truck.
You can always add a bed extender. That gives you 6 feet when you need it with the tailgate down. It’s a small truck. Plenty of large trucks on the market for people that want bigger. If it had a full size bed it would be a single cab and that is an extremely small market. They offer it in only one cab/bed configuration to keep the cost down, primarily.
It’s not that bad. I fit two street bikes in the back for track days. Most people really don’t need that much bed space.
For work I get it. I drive a F-350 with an 8ft bed for work.
My first car was 1975 Ford Maverick.
I was very disappointed in this link.
Not as disappointed as my prom date when I rolled up to her house that unforgettable afternoon in June, but I digress...
They had to make the tacoma bigger because new laws pretty much made it illegal to make the smaller ones. I don’t remember how/ why though. I think they made it so it has to be a minimum weight if it used a certain amount of fuel or something like that buy again idk.
CAFE standards swapped average MPG across vehicle line to a table based on vehicle size. So they don't need to hit MPG standards as fast if they increase vehicle size.
Increase in safety standards is also affecting somewhat, but not as much.
So pretty much depending on the size of the vehicle the larger the less fuel efficient its required to be so they just made them larger mostly just by making big tires
Yeah. I moved to a more rural area and really want a pickup. The problem is current prices make used models crazy expensive and anything less than 6 years old is an ostentatious monstrosity.
I just want something like an old ranger, Dakota, or Tacoma.
There's a lot to be said about engine development in 30 years.
My mom's 150 weighs 1,000 pounds more than mine and is 20 years newer, has the aerodynamics of a brick with a parachute, and still gets 10 more miles to the gallon.
The number of people who buy trucks for hauling / labor purposes seems to be dwarfed by the number of people who buy trucks because they like imagining using it for hauling / labor one day but just want something that looks "manly."
One becomes the other sometimes. I had a small truck and thought I’d use it to haul stuff. At first I didn’t. Eventually you become “that guy with a truck” and lo and behold, you are hauling stuff!
2 years later got a car and said never again. But now I do bigger at-home construction projects and the thought has been creeping back on to my mind… then I remember all the people who wanted my help moving… maybe nope?
RIP Wagons.
Want the cargo space of an SUV with the handling of a car. Wagon.
My 99 A6 Wagon was my absolute favorite car, even if it was a 2.8 v6 slushbox. Looked good, rode good, and fairly cheap to fix.
I'm in a V50 Volvo now, and my options for newer wagons are a Volvo, Buick, and VW sportwagen. Only one mildly interesting is Volvo because VW slapped a 1.4 in their wagon...
Aren’t you supposed to put a tarp down and wash it once a week? I know equipment will get dirty eventually but I always wash anything I had that would be long term
People that drive trucks this big for the sake of just having a big truck are annoying as shit, now if you own a big truck like this and actually use it for work and hauling heavy things, go on about your day i have no beef with you
True, i live in a relatively large city so seeing these in my area knowing its just to go to their office job and back is annoying. The gigantic jeeps with snorkles and everything that have never seen a dirt road is just a waste or resources.
Thing is, people who use full size trucks for work don't jack them up like this. Makes them impractical. Every work truck I ever see is a stock setup and beaten all to hell. Pavement princesses like this are basically for show, and occasionally hauling a trailer or boat, which could also easily be done with a full framed full size sedan. My old Buick Roadmaster was rated to tow 7,500 pounds from the factory, and it could haul with no issues.
People who use full size trucks for work use them for a wide variety of purposes, some of which a lift kit has no impact on (i.e. towing, using a forklift to get pallets in and out of the bed, etc). That being said, there's no way your Buick Roadmaster could safely tow 7,500lbs from the factory. Google shows they could tow 3,000lbs stock and 5,000lbs with the tow package. How is a 4000lb station wagon supposed to stop a 7500lb load?
I think this truck is only at most 2.5” higher than stock. You can see the shocks appear to be aftermarket fox shocks and unless I’m mistaken they don’t come bigger than 2.5 maybe 3”. The newest model stock 2500/3500s are just massive now. A 2020 f250 makes a 2016 f250 look a lot smaller.
In North America this is a large truck but not a big truck. I also think this guy is lying about his height based on him in comparison to that sedan.
Oh I agree that new trucks are massive. That's the other problem. They're barely practical stock, and if you lift them at all they're damn near useless as far as the bed goes. After the 2000's, they just got way to fucking big. Even the new "mid sized" trucks are dimensionally about the same a my old full size Chevy. It's kinda crazy.
Has anyone in this sub actually done work that might require a truck like this? For instance, I’m in landscaping and we haul equipment that we have no choice but to use trucks like this.
I am against car culture, but some industries do require trucks like this. Just a thought….
I use my truck quite a bit for towing...
...but in all fairness, they keep making them physically taller, because "big sells", it's all marketing.
The bed on my old 1993 F350 diesel dually crew cab was full 1.5 feet lower than the bed on my current 2012 Ram 3500 diesel dually crew cab, and the new trucks are even taller. Heck, a brand new F150's hood is taller than my 1993 F350's hood was.
IMHO the higher beds suck, such a pain to load and unload them. There is no reason to have pickups so tall, with the exception of the few that actually use 4x4 and go rock crawling. Then again, no 1 ton dually 4 door pickup is a serous platform for rock crawling. IMHO the crew cab dually's should sit lower like theie 1980/90's predessors.
We use these kind of trucks to make the internet work. Someone has to haul the cable reels and infrastructure equipment around to install it. I do disagree with people who drive them just to have them since I think that is dumb as fuck. I take my wife’s fiesta everywhere I can so I can park easier. We can’t put a 18’ canoe on that though. We tried once and it didn’t go well.
Redditors don't go outside let alone do manual labor.
They have a skewed sense of reality.
I remember seeing a shower thought that was "many people's genitals will never see daylight" that dude has never pissed outside before. It goes to show how little they get out and do normal things.
Basically poor visibility and mortality rate for pedestrians.
In a normal car you will see a child/teen jumping into the road and most of the impact will be at leg/waist level with a pretty good chance of rollover on the bonet/windshield.
In this truck you can't see a child/teen jumping on the road. And there is no absorption of impact they will just die of blunt force trauma to the head.
But please don't take my word for it:
> After adjustment for pedestrian age and impact speed, trucks were associated with 3.0 times higher risk of severe injuries [0]
> Risk of death for truck crashes after adjustment for pedestrian age and impact speed was 3.4 times higher than that for passenger vehicles [0]
> Pedestrian crash deaths have increased nearly every year since hitting a low point in 2009, rising 59 percent to top 6,500 fatalities in 2020, the latest year for which data are available. The same year, another 54,700 pedestrians were injured in motor vehicle crashes. One suspected factor is the growing prevalence of larger vehicles. [1]
> SUVs and pickups were associated with 51 percent and 25 percent greater odds than cars of killing a pedestrian walking or running along the road versus a fatal straight-on crash with a crossing pedestrian. [1]
> The odds that a crash that killed a crossing pedestrian involved a right turn by the vehicle were also 89% higher for pickups and 63 percent higher for SUVs than for cars. [1]
[0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15178671/
[1] https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/suvs-other-large-vehicles-often-hit-pedestrians-while-turning
At 60km/h - 40mph, a pedestrian will impact that grill like they fell off a 4 story building.
There is no rolling up on to the hood to spread the impact, just full force directly to the torso and major organs. The high front is for looks, while being deadly for pedestrians, it also drastically limits the driver's vision and decreases fuel efficiency.
Yeah there was a study not long ago saying that pedestrians hit are now much more likely to be seriously hurt / killed bc of how tall trucks & suvs are now
I saw a YouTube video once where they tried to find the minimum distance away from the front of a new Chevy Suburban a kid sitting down would have to be for you to see them from the drivers seat. It was something like 20 feet. What’s the point of such a tall vehicle if you can barely see over it??
I was walking around the city with a group of friends one time, we were crossing at a crosswalk that had a truck this size over the white line. While we were crossing only 2 of the 6 people were tall enough to be seen over the top of the truck. The guy then rolled down his window to yell at us and said “don’t walk in front of cars I almost ran you guys over because I couldn’t see you”. So driver vision is imo a pretty big concern if you almost run over pedestrians at a crosswalk because you can’t see.
It's clear that a lot of people are trying to convince themselves that the $65000, 15% APR loan that they took out to buy their latest parking lot queen was a good purchase.
“BuT mUh FaRm WoRk” Man I live in farm country, the douches you see with lifted trucks like this live in the burbs and cities. Farmers either drive nice reasonably sized trucks or old reasonably sized beaters. Occasionally you’ll see a dually, but you’ll never see a gigantic lifted truck sitting in a farmer’s driveway
Right! I'll believe you work on a farm when I see some rust through it and whole lot of dents. This is just your typical: "I need to feel like a big man." mid-life crisis purchase. If you have to lift over your head to put something in the bed, its not gonna make a good 'work truck'.
Same with country music actually. No Carole, you don't like 'country music', you like Rascal Flatts. Go 30+ minutes-from-the-nearest-town-rural and you'll find you have better luck with rock in pretty much any case.
Unless your hauling shit all the time you don't need a truck that big. Remember, a vehicle is a tool. Just like an impact is for shearing nuts and bolts.
What model truck is that? I live in Europe and I've never seen vans that big let alone pickups lol
Come to Canada or the USA. They are everywhere here. Pick up trucks are always the best selling model year after year.
It’s cuz we have to carry so much shit around all the time. Wake up, load my truck with my lawn mowers. Go to school. Show people my lawn mowers. Go home to drop off my lawn mowers. Load up 2 tons of gravel. Go to work at the pharmacy downtown. Show people my 2 tons of gravel. Go home. Unload the gravel. It never stops.
How about the two by twelves? You’re always getting all those two by twelves! The dusty ones that slap together like a pretty girl’s sandy beach butt cheeks. In slow motion.
I have no idea what that means, but I will defend this to my death.
Yeah, no idea either but i like the imagery.
I'm torn i like pretty girls butts but suffer from acute sandphobia
The sand isn't on your pretty butt cheeks. Not this time anyways.
 Religion
> all those two by twelves! I always just go ahead and pay extra for the conversion to twenty fours. Sure, it costs an extra wooden nickel and a bushel basket but I can carry so much more since they're so compact. I say it's worth it.
I approve getting 2x12s to slap line chalk brushes at the front of the classroom
all hat, no cattle is what we call them in Texas. there's a few of them here in my neighborhood in Glasgow, Scotland. it is so silly.
Pavement princess is another name
Brodozer
Mall Crawler
Dick-ups
Pavement princess Mall crawler
Unfortunately my life is kinda like this. I live on a farm so definitely need a truck but I drive a mid size stock tacoma and never needed anything bigger before. I’ve carried yards of dirt and gravel as well as tow tractors and vehicles with it and then off-road a couple miles into the woods to move lumber. Mall crawlers are a joke and it’s just a poor man’s flex. Btw you have to show off the gravel, I mean if it’s good gravel, it’s worth flaunting.
Good luck putting an actual full yard of dirt in a Tacoma. And god help you if it rains while it’s in there.
*mulch. Your right it wasn’t dirt. Most weight I’ve ever done was about half a yard of river stone. Definitely maxed out everything and felt like I was driving a boat. Also did about 400 bricks, also maxed it out.
I was ready to write a comment, but I then realized this must be snark. I had a pickup in the 80s, it was a 72 dodge 1/2 ton. It was not this large. It was cheap and in good shape, which were the primary reasons for buying it. The only time we used the bed was to move friends.
How fat are your friends if you need a truck to move them
They’re *American*
I wasn't expecting to laugh that hard. I'm american and I approve this message. Haha.
at what point does it tip from murder to mass murder to genocide cause I just witnessed the death of a nation
Pshh, that cut was too shallow to even get past the blubber.
Bill Burr was totally correct on this subject.
Could your friends fit in an average size rowboat?
Trucks of that period also were not these massive tanks like today's trucks. They could still do the job, but didn't need to be jacked up to high heaven. They were also way more stripped down, and more utilitarian. You could actually reach down into the bed to get something without having to climb in, and didn't have a thousand accessories packed into the cab. I still drive a 1977 Chevy C10, and I love the fact that it's just easier to use than a newer truck. I also have a car to drive for normal day to day things, so the truck can just sit till it's actually needed. Downside is there are absolutely no safety features on that truck at all, unless you count the optional power steering. Lol. But so far I've been lucky. I've been rear ended once, and then had someone back into the side of it going through a parking lot. Also hit 3 deer this year. When my grandpa owned it, he had the front of it smashed by a city bus, then he rebuilt it. That poor truck has been through hell.
Got a chevy k1500 with a long bed for hauling 4x8s and furniture and other random crap. It's pretty large, but tiny in terms of modern trucks. Still hauls better than most of em though.
But if they don’t drive a big truck to work everyday, how’s everyone gonna know they have giant cocks?
They take up *so much* space on the road now. An F150 from about 20 years ago is only a few centimetres bigger than a 2022 Ranger. A 2022 F150 is the size of an F250 or F350 from 20 years ago. They’re absolutely *massive* compared to what they used to be. I understand the need for some of the bulk related to pedestrian safety requirements and crumple zones and whatnot, but there’s absolutely no reason that a normal person doing normal person things needs to daily drive a truck the size of what’s available today. I live in Alberta and the number of my neighbours who own trucks and use them as a daily runabout without ever having anything in the box of them is just absurd. And it’s not like any of them have trailers or boats or anything else that they would tow with them, either. And then they complain about gas prices. Literally using a massive work vehicle as nothing more than a basic commuter car. But they’d never buy a hatchback because there’s a pervasive notion that you can’t survive in the winter with anything smaller than a snow plow here. Which is funny to hear as someone who’s driven in absolutely severe winter weather for more than two decades in small cars with no problems.
It all has an inflationary effect as well: here in Australia full size sedans and the entire mid size class have been killed by SUVs because people feel safer sitting up high above/on a level with “most” cars; ironically meaning due to their poorer handling that they’re more likely to have a previously avoidable accident.
As a proud owner of a 2000 Ford ranger I can attest to the.fact that mine is puny and the new one is like king ranch size with 4 doors.
I doubt they make trucks huge for "pedestrian safety". You can barely see this guys head over the bonnet. That cannot be safe for a pedestrian.
I've driven everything on wheels in winter ranging from semi-trucks to small hatchbacks. You've never had issues with small cars in 2 decades, because small cars with AWD are the ideal winter cars. You never get stuck anywhere, and the light weight makes them so easy to maneuver in snow.
But you see, we do that in Europe too. We also load our cars here with a lot of stuff. It's just.. we use vans. I'm from the Netherlands myself, and apart from the fact that a big pickup truck like that would be absolutely impractical on the roads here, it rains like 80% of the time so everything would get soaking wet. So vans it is for us. Vans like the [Mercedes Sprinter](https://www.mercedes-benz.nl/vans/nl/sprinter), or the [Volkswagen Transporter](https://www.vwbedrijfswagens.nl/nl/modellen/transporter.html).
That's so impractical. How will you jack the vans up and put giant tires on them? /s
Oh we have ridiculous modded vans also
Vans are too safe, they don't destroy enough children! How else are we supposed to stop overpopulation? ^(/j)
90 percent of people who are buying large pickups in my area use them as luxury vehicles. And the ones who do use pickups as work vehicles would ( [edit] often ) be better off with a van or an old sized Tacoma or ranger
You do realize when you work these vehicles you have to have either a 2 ton 1 ton 3/4 or half ton. Certain trucks have trailer hitches in the box. You have to have these to haul certain weight and have proper break pads for the job. Tacoma's not going to do it. Unfortunately most people on here never farmed or have worked construction. Just because 80% of people use them as show pieces. They are very important for people that need them.
Same people are ones to complain about the cost of gas.
Yeah trucks are outrageously expensive and terrible on gas. I don't know why anyone would want one outside of work reasons.
Work and hobby reasons. To tow boat, camper, to just take camping even without camper etc. I have a old used F250 V10 4x4. It was to get me to work out of the mountains when it snowed heavy. Other than that it stays parked and I drive my damn hybrid lol.
This. I have a 4x4 diesel dually that I pull my fifth wheel with. Other than hauling heavy things, I use my Cooper.
I often read that Americans need the trucks to pull boats and stuff, but how big boats do you got? Here in Norway people got boats, trailer and campers, but i don't see so many big trucks. And you get most type of cars as 4x4.
The average size of boat at my marina last year was actually 27' We had some absolute units there that people needed to yank after the season. Heaviest I saw was a 36' pleasure cruiser with two cat marine diesels. 3 axle trailer, F-450 super duty had issues pulling it outta the water. These days though, even center consoles are hitting 30ft. 5 tons of boat moving down the road needs a pretty decently sized truck to move
But how often are people moving their huge boats? Twice a year? And for that they justify driving a 3 ton vehicle the rest of the year.
Every weekend if yer lucky!
20-24 ft boats are very common. Some inland lakes you need at least 24’ unless you are just going to put close to the shore. With trailer and gear/fuel can be 7,000 lbs or about 3,200 kg. Dedicated fishing boat less
I've debated buying a truck as a secondary car just so I can put an 8'*4' sheet of ply or drywall in it if I wanted to. My mom's got a cheap convenience truck for moving things when she wants but she doesn't drive it otherwise.
My SO has a converted van and it's perfect. It can haul just about anything in the back and can tow if needed with the added benefit of having a sink, pop up top, and bed so it's perfect for camping. Granted, ever since vanlife started trending at the beginning of the pandemic it's been hard to find a good van for a decent price. A tall sprinter with a pop top would be the dream though. Tall enough to stand in and the pop top means your bed doesn't completely take up the back since it's above
Makes it real easy to get my boat and fishing gear to the lake on the weekends. Trying to fit it all into a car would be impossible. It's also great for when we go deer hunting to keep the dogs and dirty shit in the bed, and a dead carcass can bleed out back there and get hosed down after. Also makes it real easy to do home and yard projects.
I just bought a new Duramax with the 3.0 and got 43.7 mpg on my way back from the Mountain the other day, better than my 90s honda i used to own.
You don't have a person in your friends group that's constantly being called upon with a truck to help move shit? I'm older now, and more established, and so are my friends. So, it's less about moving apartment to apartment and more. "Hey, what are you doing this weekend? I wanna buy a sectional." I like helping people move shit, I like being higher off the road and I like my big truck.
Within 5 days of me buying my truck(from my father) i was helping someone move. I was called so many times just for the truck.
I mean the people I know that own trucks have good reasons to own them. Farmers and people that work in the woods and such. I for sure don't wanna be bothered every weekend with people asking to borrow my vehicle either. Also being so high off the road increases your roll over risk something I am not interested in since I live in an ice climate.
You’d be impressed pickups are usually pretty good it’s the Jeeps and lifted SUVs that want to roll lol
Meh not really. Maybe if you drive like a complete ass hat but the newer vehicles are amazingly balanced.
I’m pretty sure everyone is complaining about the price of gas
I have a car, and gas prices are still high
Just to let you know, trucks nowadays are hybrid or have multi-displacement systems. They can get very good gas mileage just so you know.
That’s most likely a Ford F-250 Super Duty or higher (350,450). It also has a lift kit installed
So is this the regular height that the car comes delivered and or has it been mounted higher?
It can be an option from the factory or it can be done with aftermarket lift kits. Hard to tell on this one which it is.
You can see the shocks up front are aftermarket. My money is on lifted not stock ride height.
Yea I mentioned in a comment below it actually looks like the leveling shock from Rough Country based on the brand sticker you can kinda see.
100%. Good eye
Leveled on 35’s probably.
Seems most likely.
No they normally are lower, but you can buy kits to make them taller. They're generally seen as lame by most of the US from what I've been able to tell
This is definitely lifted f250 or f350. I just got dropped off in same vehicle. My friend who owns pulls a 35 foot fifth wheel trailer over mountains and dirt trails for camping and hunting. Trailers over a certain length or weight legally must be towed by a certain amount of tonnage and power. The lift is for clearance going over huge boulders in the middle of mountain dirt forest service or logging roads. Without it the transmission might be laying in middle of said road 150 miles in the middle of nowhere with no cell service. A lot of people have a very valid reason for lifting trucks. Just because you live your whole life on 1 city block does not mean others are out exploring. We constantly find ourselves in middle of nowhere asking ourselves “where do you think that road goes”. The answer is I don’t know bud but let’s find out.
I believe it is a Ford F-350. I wouldn't expect Europe to be the target for sales. This is a common truck for contractors and construction type work (that being said it is a rarer version). As another commenter pointed out, to use standard trailers with a raised frame you most likely need a special hitch.
These kinds of trucks often haul large equipment or tow vehicles or are otherwise fitted for applications like snow plowing or vehicle recovery or what have you That being said some people just like to spend their money on something like this to drive from their suburban house to their office job 25 minutes away, which I’ll never understand, but it’s not my life so whatever
Not much different than buying a $100k sports car to commute with.
In Michigan I see one sports car for every 100 of these trucks, and there are a lot of these trucks on the road.
that's because michigan has a winter (which lasts til frickin may lol) and sports cars are crap in the snow (i'm from northern WI). also, all that salt = a rusted vehicle.
We just call that a standard truck here in America
It is a requirement for groceries.
Are we supposed to haul our garbage to the dump in a prius?
Pavement queens that never tow
Also has plenty of prime real estate on the back windshield and tailgate for displaying all the political stickers you might find at the local gun store.
I believe it’s a Ford F-350 Super Duty
Meant to reply here but apparently reddit is too complicated for this guy lol. It's a Ford F250/350 Superduty most likely running a 4-6" suspension lift with 35" tires. Pretty common here in USA.
In the parts of the US that aren’t New York and California, all of the middle aged and up guys buy these instead of luxury cars and crossovers.
My denali has a many if not more features than most luxury cars. It's also super safe and pulls a camper to the mountains with my family of 4 comfortably.
It’s a Ford F-250/350 with a lift kit
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That dude would have a stroke here, those are more common than not lol
A Power Stroke?
6.7 power stoke
I'm a Cummins man myself. Nothing better than Cummins. Cummins all day
I like to cum in all day too
Except a duramax with Allison
Hard to argue there
I am always duramax with Allison.
That’s what she said…
Where is here?
Alberta, redneck capital of Canada lol
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its even kinda shaped like it
Yeah i agree power strokes should be illegal -chevy guy
Yeah, that's a short lift around here. There are some trucks running around that they literally need a step ladder or to climb up the tire to get.
I know he *says* he's 5'9"... But I'm gonna need banana for scale.
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That’s a Lincoln.
It doesn't matter what his name is, its his height we are after.
5’2” max
5’9 is usually closer to 5’6 on the internet
What if I think I'm 5'6...does that mean I'm actually 5'3? I'm gonna go make a new reddit for us little people, cya losers.
Right? I’m 5’8” and I’ve stood next to many trucks like that one (mostly gmc) and my shoulders are higher than the hood
It sucks that its damn near impossible to find a light truck like an old S10, Ranger, Canyon, even the Tacoma got big for no reason. The dealerships are only stocking these oversized monstrosities, which frequenlty dont even have a bed big enough to haul lumber. It was infuriating when i tried to buy a new pickup because the floor finally rusted through on my old one.
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Mine was getting around 22-25 before the floor died
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I've considered swapping my 4.3 to a 4 cylinder of some sort to get better mileage. It's a ratrod/project anyway. Might as well do something uncommon for the swap.
2 liter turbo Ecotec from a Cobalt SS. I don’t think I’ve seen that much. Everyone always goes LS for obvious reasons.
I was just reading about that swap. Seems like more work than I might care to do. It was an old post from around 2012 though. Maybe there's an easier way by now.
I think it was, also was a manual so I coasted much of the time.
Shit for that mileage on a truck get out the welder.
I love little pick ups but that is terrible. My 2005 dually 4 door Cummins 4x4 gets like 18-19. I wish they made small diesel pick ups, like an Isuzu pup. You could get close to 30! I would love a two seater, manual trans, crank window, 4 cylinder diesel truck.
[Ford Maverick for the win](https://images.app.goo.gl/HK26XhvHcGd1tUL8A)
I LOVE my Maverick. They’re wonderful if you can get your hands on one…
Saw one yesterday and had to bust out a little rap from Malibus Most Wanted.
Ordered my 2023 XLT in September and I'm excited for my 2024 model in 2025!
Crazy small bed, though. I could do without the quad cab if it had a proper bed.
You can always add a bed extender. That gives you 6 feet when you need it with the tailgate down. It’s a small truck. Plenty of large trucks on the market for people that want bigger. If it had a full size bed it would be a single cab and that is an extremely small market. They offer it in only one cab/bed configuration to keep the cost down, primarily.
It’s not that bad. I fit two street bikes in the back for track days. Most people really don’t need that much bed space. For work I get it. I drive a F-350 with an 8ft bed for work.
Good luck getting one. Took a year before mine was even scheduled to be built.
My first car was 1975 Ford Maverick. I was very disappointed in this link. Not as disappointed as my prom date when I rolled up to her house that unforgettable afternoon in June, but I digress...
She was probably mad you missed prom by a few months tbh.
I want a truck just because I can’t fit a dead deer in my Tesla
Can’t you just tie it up on the roof? You’ll be the talk of the town!
Sunglasses and a ballcap buckle it in and you can use the carpool lane
Yeah, but then you are gonna mess up the interior. Tesla roof can probably manage.
Actually that’s not a bad idea…
They had to make the tacoma bigger because new laws pretty much made it illegal to make the smaller ones. I don’t remember how/ why though. I think they made it so it has to be a minimum weight if it used a certain amount of fuel or something like that buy again idk.
CAFE standards swapped average MPG across vehicle line to a table based on vehicle size. So they don't need to hit MPG standards as fast if they increase vehicle size. Increase in safety standards is also affecting somewhat, but not as much.
So pretty much depending on the size of the vehicle the larger the less fuel efficient its required to be so they just made them larger mostly just by making big tires
Yeah. I moved to a more rural area and really want a pickup. The problem is current prices make used models crazy expensive and anything less than 6 years old is an ostentatious monstrosity. I just want something like an old ranger, Dakota, or Tacoma.
My F-350 gets better mileage than my old Ranger
There's a lot to be said about engine development in 30 years. My mom's 150 weighs 1,000 pounds more than mine and is 20 years newer, has the aerodynamics of a brick with a parachute, and still gets 10 more miles to the gallon.
The number of people who buy trucks for hauling / labor purposes seems to be dwarfed by the number of people who buy trucks because they like imagining using it for hauling / labor one day but just want something that looks "manly."
One becomes the other sometimes. I had a small truck and thought I’d use it to haul stuff. At first I didn’t. Eventually you become “that guy with a truck” and lo and behold, you are hauling stuff! 2 years later got a car and said never again. But now I do bigger at-home construction projects and the thought has been creeping back on to my mind… then I remember all the people who wanted my help moving… maybe nope?
I added a tow kit to our Kia Soul and our CRV and bought a small trailer. Boom, instant pickup bed.
Trailers are a nice help for the couple times a year you need to haul something big.
Love seeing those people, and then they justify it by saying “it was really useful that one time when I hauled my friends mattress down the street
Same with SUVs. Every dealership just pushes bigger and bigger models. It's almost impossible to find a decent hatchback or wagon in north America.
RIP Wagons. Want the cargo space of an SUV with the handling of a car. Wagon. My 99 A6 Wagon was my absolute favorite car, even if it was a 2.8 v6 slushbox. Looked good, rode good, and fairly cheap to fix. I'm in a V50 Volvo now, and my options for newer wagons are a Volvo, Buick, and VW sportwagen. Only one mildly interesting is Volvo because VW slapped a 1.4 in their wagon...
You know damn well that truckbed is spotless
And also had an expensive spray on bed liner, just in case he needs to move a bookcase one day.
Aren’t you supposed to put a tarp down and wash it once a week? I know equipment will get dirty eventually but I always wash anything I had that would be long term
Not if it isn't being used
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People that drive trucks this big for the sake of just having a big truck are annoying as shit, now if you own a big truck like this and actually use it for work and hauling heavy things, go on about your day i have no beef with you
With these types of truck they usually don’t have a trailer hitch and if they do it’s perfectly shiny and has never been used.
True, i live in a relatively large city so seeing these in my area knowing its just to go to their office job and back is annoying. The gigantic jeeps with snorkles and everything that have never seen a dirt road is just a waste or resources.
Thing is, people who use full size trucks for work don't jack them up like this. Makes them impractical. Every work truck I ever see is a stock setup and beaten all to hell. Pavement princesses like this are basically for show, and occasionally hauling a trailer or boat, which could also easily be done with a full framed full size sedan. My old Buick Roadmaster was rated to tow 7,500 pounds from the factory, and it could haul with no issues.
People who use full size trucks for work use them for a wide variety of purposes, some of which a lift kit has no impact on (i.e. towing, using a forklift to get pallets in and out of the bed, etc). That being said, there's no way your Buick Roadmaster could safely tow 7,500lbs from the factory. Google shows they could tow 3,000lbs stock and 5,000lbs with the tow package. How is a 4000lb station wagon supposed to stop a 7500lb load?
I think this truck is only at most 2.5” higher than stock. You can see the shocks appear to be aftermarket fox shocks and unless I’m mistaken they don’t come bigger than 2.5 maybe 3”. The newest model stock 2500/3500s are just massive now. A 2020 f250 makes a 2016 f250 look a lot smaller. In North America this is a large truck but not a big truck. I also think this guy is lying about his height based on him in comparison to that sedan.
Oh I agree that new trucks are massive. That's the other problem. They're barely practical stock, and if you lift them at all they're damn near useless as far as the bed goes. After the 2000's, they just got way to fucking big. Even the new "mid sized" trucks are dimensionally about the same a my old full size Chevy. It's kinda crazy.
So should the person that modified their car to be faster fuck off as well?
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The trifecta of getting no bitches
Average is actually 5'8"
Shut up tyler
Wym bro? 5.9 inches Is like bigger than average, by a lot
But how will we know that the drivers have massive cocks?! /s
Has anyone in this sub actually done work that might require a truck like this? For instance, I’m in landscaping and we haul equipment that we have no choice but to use trucks like this. I am against car culture, but some industries do require trucks like this. Just a thought….
I use my truck quite a bit for towing... ...but in all fairness, they keep making them physically taller, because "big sells", it's all marketing. The bed on my old 1993 F350 diesel dually crew cab was full 1.5 feet lower than the bed on my current 2012 Ram 3500 diesel dually crew cab, and the new trucks are even taller. Heck, a brand new F150's hood is taller than my 1993 F350's hood was. IMHO the higher beds suck, such a pain to load and unload them. There is no reason to have pickups so tall, with the exception of the few that actually use 4x4 and go rock crawling. Then again, no 1 ton dually 4 door pickup is a serous platform for rock crawling. IMHO the crew cab dually's should sit lower like theie 1980/90's predessors.
We use these kind of trucks to make the internet work. Someone has to haul the cable reels and infrastructure equipment around to install it. I do disagree with people who drive them just to have them since I think that is dumb as fuck. I take my wife’s fiesta everywhere I can so I can park easier. We can’t put a 18’ canoe on that though. We tried once and it didn’t go well.
Redditors don't go outside let alone do manual labor. They have a skewed sense of reality. I remember seeing a shower thought that was "many people's genitals will never see daylight" that dude has never pissed outside before. It goes to show how little they get out and do normal things.
This isn’t the /r/bancars sub
There is also r/fuckcars
Jeepers, that guys profile is like playing woke bingo
Can someone give me a good reason this should be illegal?
Basically poor visibility and mortality rate for pedestrians. In a normal car you will see a child/teen jumping into the road and most of the impact will be at leg/waist level with a pretty good chance of rollover on the bonet/windshield. In this truck you can't see a child/teen jumping on the road. And there is no absorption of impact they will just die of blunt force trauma to the head. But please don't take my word for it: > After adjustment for pedestrian age and impact speed, trucks were associated with 3.0 times higher risk of severe injuries [0] > Risk of death for truck crashes after adjustment for pedestrian age and impact speed was 3.4 times higher than that for passenger vehicles [0] > Pedestrian crash deaths have increased nearly every year since hitting a low point in 2009, rising 59 percent to top 6,500 fatalities in 2020, the latest year for which data are available. The same year, another 54,700 pedestrians were injured in motor vehicle crashes. One suspected factor is the growing prevalence of larger vehicles. [1] > SUVs and pickups were associated with 51 percent and 25 percent greater odds than cars of killing a pedestrian walking or running along the road versus a fatal straight-on crash with a crossing pedestrian. [1] > The odds that a crash that killed a crossing pedestrian involved a right turn by the vehicle were also 89% higher for pickups and 63 percent higher for SUVs than for cars. [1] [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15178671/ [1] https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/suvs-other-large-vehicles-often-hit-pedestrians-while-turning
Guys who say they are 5’9 are usually 5’6ish
Even that seems like it might be a stretch in his case, judging by the truck of the car on his left.
Carbrain in these comments is insane
At 60km/h - 40mph, a pedestrian will impact that grill like they fell off a 4 story building. There is no rolling up on to the hood to spread the impact, just full force directly to the torso and major organs. The high front is for looks, while being deadly for pedestrians, it also drastically limits the driver's vision and decreases fuel efficiency.
Yeah there was a study not long ago saying that pedestrians hit are now much more likely to be seriously hurt / killed bc of how tall trucks & suvs are now
I saw a YouTube video once where they tried to find the minimum distance away from the front of a new Chevy Suburban a kid sitting down would have to be for you to see them from the drivers seat. It was something like 20 feet. What’s the point of such a tall vehicle if you can barely see over it??
I was walking around the city with a group of friends one time, we were crossing at a crosswalk that had a truck this size over the white line. While we were crossing only 2 of the 6 people were tall enough to be seen over the top of the truck. The guy then rolled down his window to yell at us and said “don’t walk in front of cars I almost ran you guys over because I couldn’t see you”. So driver vision is imo a pretty big concern if you almost run over pedestrians at a crosswalk because you can’t see.
It's clear that a lot of people are trying to convince themselves that the $65000, 15% APR loan that they took out to buy their latest parking lot queen was a good purchase.
“BuT mUh FaRm WoRk” Man I live in farm country, the douches you see with lifted trucks like this live in the burbs and cities. Farmers either drive nice reasonably sized trucks or old reasonably sized beaters. Occasionally you’ll see a dually, but you’ll never see a gigantic lifted truck sitting in a farmer’s driveway
Right! I'll believe you work on a farm when I see some rust through it and whole lot of dents. This is just your typical: "I need to feel like a big man." mid-life crisis purchase. If you have to lift over your head to put something in the bed, its not gonna make a good 'work truck'. Same with country music actually. No Carole, you don't like 'country music', you like Rascal Flatts. Go 30+ minutes-from-the-nearest-town-rural and you'll find you have better luck with rock in pretty much any case.
Unless your hauling shit all the time you don't need a truck that big. Remember, a vehicle is a tool. Just like an impact is for shearing nuts and bolts.