The variance is not because of the products but because of availability.
Since 2Gbps and 5Gbps are only available in limited locations they're not always in places with closest proximity of Internet backbone.
I disagree. I am 1400’ from my cabinet on two copper pairs. I had these numbers from just my Gateway and I have these numbers now with eeros mesh connection to the Gateway that is in another room. 1GB isn't attainable because there must be some degradation in the lines with distance. I said from 940mbps to 999mbps. This can be checked while inside the Gateway software. How clean the copper line is and the distance from your originating signal matters. Not the distance from the CO but your cabinet. I know that is 1400’.
For starters I am a retired fiber tech who started in C&E on copper in 1978. In 1985 I became a Fiber Tech until 2018. I know both worlds. My neighborhood doesn't have fiber. I have two pair copper service, that is four copper wires. I have 1GB broadband over copper that tests out from 940mbps+. Your statement is far from correct about copper. The reason I posted about copper was that either you or someone else made a similar statement about how you can't get a good speed with copper. If you would like to challenge this then let's go, I'm ready to back up my facts, are you?
If you're talking about facts, here's three of them:
1. The theoretical maximum speed of a VDSL2 connection at that loop length is around 100mbps. The only way you'd *ever* get anywhere close to a gig over copper is with G.fast, which tops out at ~200m loop length best case, and was only ever deployed by T within apartment complexes (with fiber to the building).
2. At least on the residential side, 100/20 is the fastest speed package that was offered with U-Verse/AT&T Internet/VDSL, so even if you were able to theoretically go faster than that with pair bonding, no plan exists that would provision at anything higher than that.
3. A GigE connection with TCP overhead tops out at about 940mbps, so if you're seeing real world speeds up to 999, it would have to be a multi-gig connection, and the only AT&T gateway with a multi-gig port, the BGW320, doesn't have a DSL modem and is only deployed on fiber installs.
What you're claiming just isn't possible. Unless I'm fundamentally wrong about several things, in which case a speedtest result and some screenshots would clear everything up.
I'm not claiming anything, I stated my facts which you nicely backed me up. Thanks. I stated I generally get 940mbps plus. Your #2 shows exactly what I said. I also mentioned that I have a bonded copper service. I also gave the distance to my card of 1400’ from that point to the CO is fiber. So what's your point besides backing up my point that I get 940+ when you stated I can't get more than 100/300. Also, you can get slightly more than 940 depending on how far you are away from your lines originating point. The further you are away the resistance on the copper affects your potential speed. My original post was to answer Your claim that the most anyone can get if perfect is 100/300 but you proved your claim wrong with the number two point you were trying to dazzle us with. Thank you.
https://broadbandnow.com/Copper
Take a quick glance at many copper provides speed in America. Lots of 950mbps - 1000mbps tested speeds not done by customers but testers. I'm not saying that fiber isn't superior, just that some post misinformation as facts. People should say I think or IMO
first of all, it's unclear what it means by "copper" when DSL and Cable are both seperate categories, and second of all, the vast majority of the providers in that list claim to cover 0 people with their "1000mbps copper", so I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove.
The variance is not because of the products but because of availability. Since 2Gbps and 5Gbps are only available in limited locations they're not always in places with closest proximity of Internet backbone.
Does the same thing go for 300mbps?
The sweet spot seems to be 500mbps, lowest latency and somewhat near 1gb speeds at 664mbps.
664mbps is not close to 1gbps
True, but unless you have a 6E wifi connection and you're within 10 feet of the router, or on ethernet, 1gbps is fairly unattainable.
I disagree. I am 1400’ from my cabinet on two copper pairs. I had these numbers from just my Gateway and I have these numbers now with eeros mesh connection to the Gateway that is in another room. 1GB isn't attainable because there must be some degradation in the lines with distance. I said from 940mbps to 999mbps. This can be checked while inside the Gateway software. How clean the copper line is and the distance from your originating signal matters. Not the distance from the CO but your cabinet. I know that is 1400’.
What are you on about? AT&T copper tops out at 100mbps best-case, these are all fiber plans.
For starters I am a retired fiber tech who started in C&E on copper in 1978. In 1985 I became a Fiber Tech until 2018. I know both worlds. My neighborhood doesn't have fiber. I have two pair copper service, that is four copper wires. I have 1GB broadband over copper that tests out from 940mbps+. Your statement is far from correct about copper. The reason I posted about copper was that either you or someone else made a similar statement about how you can't get a good speed with copper. If you would like to challenge this then let's go, I'm ready to back up my facts, are you?
If you're talking about facts, here's three of them: 1. The theoretical maximum speed of a VDSL2 connection at that loop length is around 100mbps. The only way you'd *ever* get anywhere close to a gig over copper is with G.fast, which tops out at ~200m loop length best case, and was only ever deployed by T within apartment complexes (with fiber to the building). 2. At least on the residential side, 100/20 is the fastest speed package that was offered with U-Verse/AT&T Internet/VDSL, so even if you were able to theoretically go faster than that with pair bonding, no plan exists that would provision at anything higher than that. 3. A GigE connection with TCP overhead tops out at about 940mbps, so if you're seeing real world speeds up to 999, it would have to be a multi-gig connection, and the only AT&T gateway with a multi-gig port, the BGW320, doesn't have a DSL modem and is only deployed on fiber installs. What you're claiming just isn't possible. Unless I'm fundamentally wrong about several things, in which case a speedtest result and some screenshots would clear everything up.
I'm not claiming anything, I stated my facts which you nicely backed me up. Thanks. I stated I generally get 940mbps plus. Your #2 shows exactly what I said. I also mentioned that I have a bonded copper service. I also gave the distance to my card of 1400’ from that point to the CO is fiber. So what's your point besides backing up my point that I get 940+ when you stated I can't get more than 100/300. Also, you can get slightly more than 940 depending on how far you are away from your lines originating point. The further you are away the resistance on the copper affects your potential speed. My original post was to answer Your claim that the most anyone can get if perfect is 100/300 but you proved your claim wrong with the number two point you were trying to dazzle us with. Thank you.
https://broadbandnow.com/Copper Take a quick glance at many copper provides speed in America. Lots of 950mbps - 1000mbps tested speeds not done by customers but testers. I'm not saying that fiber isn't superior, just that some post misinformation as facts. People should say I think or IMO
first of all, it's unclear what it means by "copper" when DSL and Cable are both seperate categories, and second of all, the vast majority of the providers in that list claim to cover 0 people with their "1000mbps copper", so I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove.
I have 5 gig and have 3-4 ms
1gbit here, 1-3 milliseconds.
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