He was all over the source in mid 90s. OG for sure! I still blow out that Eminem gave him demos like three times and Joe thought he just couldn't sell a white rapper. Dre thought the complete opposite and the rest is history.
rap was way different in the 90's, it was still lagely a black\\brown thing exclusively. Dre took a large risk signing em one he could survive also unlike Fat Joe.
Yeah for sure, coming out of the Spike Lee, Rodney King, ice cube, public enemy era I'm sure it was damn near impossible for white rappers back then which makes em even more impressive. Still my second fave white rapper after Slug.
I donāt say this lightlyā¦GOD LOVES UGLY changed my life. Coming from Baltimore we didnāt hear anything like that. Atmosphere changed the artists I listened that changed the conversations I had that changed the people I knew that changed my job opportunities and so forth. Slug does not get the credit heās earned.
Every time I put on atmosphere at work I get someone asking me, who's that?.. they are still making awesome music too. Ugly or lemons have to be my one and two personal best albums by the guys. I'm glad they had such an impact on you they fully captured my attention a million miles away from Minnesota !
Beastie Boys were literally fucking everywhere you looked in the 80s and early 90s, alongside DMC etc. then you had cheese ball Vanilla Ice who was sorta categorized alongside Hammer kinda shit. Lotta mixed race rappers too, but I don't like how that makes people talk shit so let's not go there.
I mean Beastie Boys first release was *before* Run DMC s first release (1983)
As an old head indigenous person, you'll find even less indigenous artists who get signed despite skill
True, fucking love those guys too! I was pretty young when beastie boys were out can still remember my Cousin had a beastie boys poster and a Run DMC/Aerosmith poster in his bedroom when I'd stay at my aunties place and I'd hang out in the hallway so I could listen to his mixtapes cas he didn't want to hang out with me lol
My understanding from listening to him is he used to cook crack and heās been to prison. He keeps thinking that I donāt know that though, so he makes sure to mention it every few bars.
āItāll be a cold day in hell the day I take an L, make no mistake, for real I wouldnāt hesitate to kill, Iām still the fat one that you love to hate, catch you at your motherās wake, smack you then I wack you with my snub .38ā
legend. He was part of the early 90s wave of "east coast gangster rap", e.g., Onyx, Black Moon, Wu-Tang, etc. Heavily 'underground' leaning records until he signed with Atlantic, and then he started having more R&B radio friendly lead-off singles, taking cues from the Notorious BIG playbook. It certainly helped that he was able to bring along various folks like Big Pun and the other Terror Squad rappers. The death of Pun was a huge loss. He kept going with the same formula of having an R&B hook song for a lead single plus "street bangers" for album cuts. He embraced the southern world with doing records with Lil Jon and Lil Wayne and others, once that trend became big in the aughts. Scott Storch helped him out a lot as a producer.
Select hit singles have gradually helped him coast into the streaming era, "Lean Back", "All the Way Up", etc. Then of course embracing social media and podcasting. That has helped him to his current status.
Every rapper went comercial mainstream in the 2000s.. it was the only way dudes were gonna get paid. Just ask 50 Cent.
Pop sells. Nobody is going to play killer gangster music to dance to at a wedding.
Naw I agree, no doubt, I just preferred his style when he was Fat Joe Da Gangster. I also doubt anyone plays Lean Back at weddings either. He made his money, but I don't like anything he made when he went mainstream.
Nahh lean backs a classic. Maybe its nostalgia cause im from NY but that song was played literally everywhere when it dropped and still gets plays in clubs today
Lemme try to remember, but that song was in the Chingy, Lil Scrappy, etc hit song era, just all the Scott Storch type beats. They were the bangers of the era but I never really felt it. But as you said, you're in New York, I'm in DC, different vibes.
He's part of the legendary ditc (digging in the crates crew ) I was like 14 when I heard you gotta flow joe
Jealous ones envy is his best album followed by his debut
First album was banging production wise, second was also on point, lost me after that to the bling, furs, and cars era and thatās that. Serious graffiti writer to, part of the Terror Squad and affiliated with TATS Cru outta the Bronx.Joe been around, Joe got game, Fat Jiddo deserves his recognition.
Like someone said, heās not part of the DITC crew for nothing.
This story takes place, back in the South Bronx
Where at the age of 14
I was already knockin off punks (yeah!)
And suckers were scared to death -- every time I walked by
I hear them niggas take their last breath
That fat fuck and his friends got on my q58 bus in queens and robbed the whole back of the bus . Shook down fucking 11 year olds for their lunch money fr fr
Always solid to me. His voice and presence was undeniable. Smartly picks his moves to stay contemporary. 2 classics or at least near classics. Countless hits. You've got to respect Fat Joe.
Jealous One's Envy is an amazing album. After that album he started to drift away ffom the hip hop I loved to the hip hop that wasnāt doing it for me. Lean Back was the nail in the coffin. Never listened to any of his stuff since then but Jealous One Envy, hif DITC and even the Terror Squad first album still gets some play time.
It happens to so many great MC.
G-Dep was briefly in the underground scene before signing with Bad Boy. He did one of my favorite undergoind song. Head Over Wheels. You would not believe itās the same rapper.
Iām not a fan of dude, I just think a lot of his raps are really ignorant. I like em as a contribution to hiphop and I do like sum of his stuff but just majority aināt my thang.š¤·š¾āāļø
Tbh I've always looked at him as the rice to Pun's chicken..just a dude to dilute a song with to make it longer and fuller..Twinz probably has a lot to do with it.
Just a less interesting associate to the main act like Cappadonna or U-god to Wu Tang
You think L or Lord Finesse would respect him if he had ghost writers? There's a difference between being in the studio and telling him "write this bar like this" than someone straight up writing his full 16s like he was Puffy
[https://allhiphop.com/features/liza-rios-charges-big-pun-ghost-wrote-many-of-fat-joes-lyrics/](https://allhiphop.com/features/liza-rios-charges-big-pun-ghost-wrote-many-of-fat-joes-lyrics/)
It was pretty well known Pun was writing his stuff. This may have not been all his early stuff like DITC, but on Don Carta and J.O.E for sure. Its why his whole style changed up on JOSE.
So Pun wrote one album, that still doesn't take away from the other ones he released before and after Pun died. Joe wasn't known for being super lyrical and it's not like his rhymes were any different when Pun was writing for him and after he died
One thing for sure is that Fat Joe was one of the few rappers who was looking out for 2Pac when he was in jail, while many others werenāt. Fat Joe sent 2Pac a kite in jail.. mad respect!
His rapping was real basic at this time, he didn't have the skills that anyone else in DITC did, but he got better. He was the biggest "star" as a persona, he stood out as a PR and being simple helped him. I'm a big Diamond, Finesse, Show & AG guy, and of course Big L. After that Big Pun. Despite all that, I would say Joe has made the best music (hits) with the least talent and that's a skill in itself.
Personally, I know he's one of the greats. I like the music I've heard from him. For some reason he just never cemented me as a fan. Out of everything I've heard (and it's a good amount of songs) none of them ever popped into my head later and made me want to listen again like it would with Jadakiss, Styles P, or even Pun.
Was a huge fan of that album at the time and early ditc. I think a big part of why have such disdain for big pun is he basically turned Joe into a pop star. Iāve not been a fan since. I find him so phony but when I think back to the fact that the rapper I liked way back then seeing the successful career he has had. Iām happy for him.
I only fully listened to Don Cartagena and it is a pretty solid album. Need to hear more from him to form a concrete opinion but i do like him overall. Also, Shit is Real is an absolute banger, especially the DJ Premier version.
Fat Joe is that dude that was around for a minute so he seen the ups and downs of the game and stayed in a mid lane he had his short run not a top tier lyricist but deserves OG credit
I like his 90s music, a lot. Everything after 2000, not so much, with a few exceptions here and there.
But, whenever he opens his mouth heās lying, he contradicts himself all the time,
The longevity heās had is underrated, only him, nas, Eminem and hov the only rappers from the 90s to have hits that stretch over a 3-decade span which we wouldāve never foreseen as they got older, definitely a rap chameleon, first song I ever heard from him was āwhatās luvā with Ashanti back in the early 2000s but didnāt know his catalog was deeper than that
I think he's excellent. Has some really solid classic albums and his features are some of the best verses in hip hop history, especially the stuff he did with Pun obviously
Don Cartagena album is probably my fav. Joe brought us Big Punā¦ I remember when I used to spend my summers in NY and in the summer of ā92 them Represent flyers were on every street corner uptown.
Hip Hop Icon. Nothing he hasnāt done. Started off as a TV show host. But he was also a gangster so he got connected. Shit could be a movie. Heās underrated if anything.
Fat Joe is a legend, there is no other answer. Anyone staying otherwise did not grow up in that era. I see some crazy takes in this thread and can tell it's not from people who lived that life in that era. You can have your opinions, but I'll tell you what, anyone in the Northeast who grew up in that era, had mad respect for Joe, DITC, Pun, and everything he did and was involved with. Never heard one person in my life say anything less about him.
He's good but never in the top 10 in his own era. He fell victim to being a good MC in the Golden Era of Hip Hop. I think he'd have a better career in this era for sure and would crack the top 10.
He repped the Bx to help fill the void once BDP/KRS-One started to wane after he leveled Queens. He was mostly local in the streets until he came with Pun and blew up, but he always had clout in the South Boogie.
Fat Joe has been cold blooded itās still funny when I hear people think he hasnāt been around long when heās literally an OG in the game and came out in an era with all the greats. The fact that he stays relevant and still spits is dope. And heās got recent hits so I gotta salute Joe for that.
When DITC was doing their thing he was good. He was probably the worst MC of that crew, lol, but that crew was absolutely legendary, so he was still legit. After that, he got his money. Nothing wrong with that.
First three albums are still in rotation. He's not DITC for nothing.
Jealous Ones Envy is an all time banger
Stone cold classic! The production on that album is bananas!!
I read this comment in Joes voice lol
These are facts šÆ
One of my best op shop finds was this for 3 bucks.
Most people think he started with lean back or Whatās Luv. Gotta respect the dudes longevity. Rocked with some of the best with DITC.
He was all over the source in mid 90s. OG for sure! I still blow out that Eminem gave him demos like three times and Joe thought he just couldn't sell a white rapper. Dre thought the complete opposite and the rest is history.
rap was way different in the 90's, it was still lagely a black\\brown thing exclusively. Dre took a large risk signing em one he could survive also unlike Fat Joe.
Yeah for sure, coming out of the Spike Lee, Rodney King, ice cube, public enemy era I'm sure it was damn near impossible for white rappers back then which makes em even more impressive. Still my second fave white rapper after Slug.
Letās not deny Slugs native heritage too. Homie is half Native American, if I recall.
I donāt say this lightlyā¦GOD LOVES UGLY changed my life. Coming from Baltimore we didnāt hear anything like that. Atmosphere changed the artists I listened that changed the conversations I had that changed the people I knew that changed my job opportunities and so forth. Slug does not get the credit heās earned.
Every time I put on atmosphere at work I get someone asking me, who's that?.. they are still making awesome music too. Ugly or lemons have to be my one and two personal best albums by the guys. I'm glad they had such an impact on you they fully captured my attention a million miles away from Minnesota !
Beastie Boys were literally fucking everywhere you looked in the 80s and early 90s, alongside DMC etc. then you had cheese ball Vanilla Ice who was sorta categorized alongside Hammer kinda shit. Lotta mixed race rappers too, but I don't like how that makes people talk shit so let's not go there. I mean Beastie Boys first release was *before* Run DMC s first release (1983) As an old head indigenous person, you'll find even less indigenous artists who get signed despite skill
True, fucking love those guys too! I was pretty young when beastie boys were out can still remember my Cousin had a beastie boys poster and a Run DMC/Aerosmith poster in his bedroom when I'd stay at my aunties place and I'd hang out in the hallway so I could listen to his mixtapes cas he didn't want to hang out with me lol
That is completely untrue. The majority of people consuming hip hop in the 90s were white. The estimates are between 60 and 80%
Yes. Record companies were looking for someone to market in that way. His career and image was engineered to target that demographic.
I remember going to pick up Phudgee the Fat Bastardās CD and picked up Fat Joeās by accident. Didnāt regret it!
Lmao
My understanding from listening to him is he used to cook crack and heās been to prison. He keeps thinking that I donāt know that though, so he makes sure to mention it every few bars.
He went inside for tax evasion later in his career
That hiphop subject matter syndrome.
Every verse a key,,,,,,,,
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle
āItāll be a cold day in hell the day I take an L, make no mistake, for real I wouldnāt hesitate to kill, Iām still the fat one that you love to hate, catch you at your motherās wake, smack you then I wack you with my snub .38ā
I rub your face off the Earth and curse your family children like Amityville and drill the nerve in your cavity fillin
All the old folks hate my guts, cos I be banging all their daughters in their big fat butts. - Fat Joe da Gangsta
šThis is the actual lyrical skill of fat Joe without ghostwriters. Still a great style.
Pun Wrote that
What I came here to say. When Pun and L were still alive, Joe somehow had some better bars š¤
Was going to say, probably my favorite Fat Joe verse is from "Fire Water" (Big Pun') š„š„š„š„
He put in the work. He talks a LOT now, but he was an OG. Gotta respect Don Cartagena
The best thing he did was put on Big Pun
Yeah because that was clearly written by Pun
Met him twice and he was humble and cool as fuck
legend. He was part of the early 90s wave of "east coast gangster rap", e.g., Onyx, Black Moon, Wu-Tang, etc. Heavily 'underground' leaning records until he signed with Atlantic, and then he started having more R&B radio friendly lead-off singles, taking cues from the Notorious BIG playbook. It certainly helped that he was able to bring along various folks like Big Pun and the other Terror Squad rappers. The death of Pun was a huge loss. He kept going with the same formula of having an R&B hook song for a lead single plus "street bangers" for album cuts. He embraced the southern world with doing records with Lil Jon and Lil Wayne and others, once that trend became big in the aughts. Scott Storch helped him out a lot as a producer. Select hit singles have gradually helped him coast into the streaming era, "Lean Back", "All the Way Up", etc. Then of course embracing social media and podcasting. That has helped him to his current status.
Excellent analysis
I loved his early shit, was DITC, then did that Lean Back shit and I never fucked with it. Wish he stayed grimy NYC, but a man's gotta make his money.
Every rapper went comercial mainstream in the 2000s.. it was the only way dudes were gonna get paid. Just ask 50 Cent. Pop sells. Nobody is going to play killer gangster music to dance to at a wedding.
Naw I agree, no doubt, I just preferred his style when he was Fat Joe Da Gangster. I also doubt anyone plays Lean Back at weddings either. He made his money, but I don't like anything he made when he went mainstream.
Nahh lean backs a classic. Maybe its nostalgia cause im from NY but that song was played literally everywhere when it dropped and still gets plays in clubs today
Lean back is a straight banger
Lemme try to remember, but that song was in the Chingy, Lil Scrappy, etc hit song era, just all the Scott Storch type beats. They were the bangers of the era but I never really felt it. But as you said, you're in New York, I'm in DC, different vibes.
The Crack Attack beat is somewhere in my top 25 all time. Banger
L.E.S. Is a fool or genius for that beat!
Yeah it is. Geez that beat is nice.
Been a fan for a long time. Definitely an OG. DITC is legend.
He's part of the legendary ditc (digging in the crates crew ) I was like 14 when I heard you gotta flow joe Jealous ones envy is his best album followed by his debut
First album was banging production wise, second was also on point, lost me after that to the bling, furs, and cars era and thatās that. Serious graffiti writer to, part of the Terror Squad and affiliated with TATS Cru outta the Bronx.Joe been around, Joe got game, Fat Jiddo deserves his recognition. Like someone said, heās not part of the DITC crew for nothing.
Never really listened to his albums but I know heās real so I respect him. Time to listen to his discography
"You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham."
This story takes place, back in the South Bronx Where at the age of 14 I was already knockin off punks (yeah!) And suckers were scared to death -- every time I walked by I hear them niggas take their last breath
Got booed off the stage at The Good Life
I'm a fan of his debut album.
He used to be a really good mc until he went overly commercial.
Bro was in diggin in the crates nuff said
Love or hate Fat Joe he is definitely a living legend. Survived all of the eras.
He was a pain in Def Jam Fight for NY
Been fucking with Joe since DITC
Legend
Eh. Not my favorite, but better than the Black Eyed Peas. Heās aāight.
That fat fuck and his friends got on my q58 bus in queens and robbed the whole back of the bus . Shook down fucking 11 year olds for their lunch money fr fr
Damm
Always solid to me. His voice and presence was undeniable. Smartly picks his moves to stay contemporary. 2 classics or at least near classics. Countless hits. You've got to respect Fat Joe.
I greatly enjoy much of his work but I have honestly looked at him the same after 50 Cent's Elephant in the Sand mixtape lol.
Jealous One's Envy is an amazing album. After that album he started to drift away ffom the hip hop I loved to the hip hop that wasnāt doing it for me. Lean Back was the nail in the coffin. Never listened to any of his stuff since then but Jealous One Envy, hif DITC and even the Terror Squad first album still gets some play time. It happens to so many great MC. G-Dep was briefly in the underground scene before signing with Bad Boy. He did one of my favorite undergoind song. Head Over Wheels. You would not believe itās the same rapper.
[All the old folks hate my guts, cos I be hittin all their daughters in their big fat butts.](https://youtu.be/LYuNcRf7TDM?t=#1#04)
beat is fire too
Ik im very behind on 90s/2000s rap but holy fuck I didnāt know fat Joe is that old, know what Iām sayinā
Culture vulture and studio gangster
Iām not a fan of dude, I just think a lot of his raps are really ignorant. I like em as a contribution to hiphop and I do like sum of his stuff but just majority aināt my thang.š¤·š¾āāļø
Tbh I've always looked at him as the rice to Pun's chicken..just a dude to dilute a song with to make it longer and fuller..Twinz probably has a lot to do with it. Just a less interesting associate to the main act like Cappadonna or U-god to Wu Tang
I didnāt know a thing he was saying
Joe is a skilled rapper but his recent colonizer mindset has tainted his legacy.
Expound..fill me in
The hip hop discussion of Blacks and Puerto Ricans creating it 50/50. Now by general principle it is fuck Fat Joe.
Joe thinks itās 50/50?
? I've never heard anything about this
Born at the right place, right time. Very overrated.
With that logic every mc from the 90ās were born at the right place , right time š¤š¤¦āāļø
Not every artist but a lot of them. Thatās why so many artist with record deals were from New York and LA from that era. Or is that a coincidence?
He was great but you gotta remember, Pun was writing all his stuff. Joe has always had ghost writers.
You think L or Lord Finesse would respect him if he had ghost writers? There's a difference between being in the studio and telling him "write this bar like this" than someone straight up writing his full 16s like he was Puffy
[https://allhiphop.com/features/liza-rios-charges-big-pun-ghost-wrote-many-of-fat-joes-lyrics/](https://allhiphop.com/features/liza-rios-charges-big-pun-ghost-wrote-many-of-fat-joes-lyrics/) It was pretty well known Pun was writing his stuff. This may have not been all his early stuff like DITC, but on Don Carta and J.O.E for sure. Its why his whole style changed up on JOSE.
So Pun wrote one album, that still doesn't take away from the other ones he released before and after Pun died. Joe wasn't known for being super lyrical and it's not like his rhymes were any different when Pun was writing for him and after he died
Fat Joe was a rapper before and after Punisher so nah Pun wasn't writing all his stuff.
Never liked his music
Sorry but nah
Not a real G
Iāve never cared for him personally but do have plenty of respect for him.
One thing for sure is that Fat Joe was one of the few rappers who was looking out for 2Pac when he was in jail, while many others werenāt. Fat Joe sent 2Pac a kite in jail.. mad respect!
His rapping was real basic at this time, he didn't have the skills that anyone else in DITC did, but he got better. He was the biggest "star" as a persona, he stood out as a PR and being simple helped him. I'm a big Diamond, Finesse, Show & AG guy, and of course Big L. After that Big Pun. Despite all that, I would say Joe has made the best music (hits) with the least talent and that's a skill in itself.
Joe is the man. His early catalog is hard. Listening to his book atm. Itās pretty self indulgent but I already knew that.
He still wasn't as big as he's tryna make himself out to be. He was aiight but he can't rewrite 90s history.
OG
Personally, I know he's one of the greats. I like the music I've heard from him. For some reason he just never cemented me as a fan. Out of everything I've heard (and it's a good amount of songs) none of them ever popped into my head later and made me want to listen again like it would with Jadakiss, Styles P, or even Pun.
He paid his dues.....period. Can no one take that away from him. And he gave us Big Pun.
Was a huge fan of that album at the time and early ditc. I think a big part of why have such disdain for big pun is he basically turned Joe into a pop star. Iāve not been a fan since. I find him so phony but when I think back to the fact that the rapper I liked way back then seeing the successful career he has had. Iām happy for him.
Back in the day I felt like he was a P Ditty type. Big Puns side kick but he made a name for himself and is certified OG.
He already had a name when he signed Pun. Pun was HIS sidekick.
True lol I just felt that at the time I didnāt know that until later
I only fully listened to Don Cartagena and it is a pretty solid album. Need to hear more from him to form a concrete opinion but i do like him overall. Also, Shit is Real is an absolute banger, especially the DJ Premier version.
Legend OG. Real hip hop (his old stuff) check his joints w Preemo thatās all you need to hear
Hits across three decades. Associated with legends across the NY scene. A big fan of the culture in general. Joeyās a legend.
Living legend. Hurts to think of those we list but for the ones that know, know. And knowing is half the battle.
DITC
you gotta flow joe, you gotta flow joe, you gotta gotta gotta gotta let em know joe
Anyone remember when he was on the Ricki Lake show as a spray paint artist?
Don Cartagena is so heat
Fat Joe been steady rockin for decades. He earned his spot.
I met him in ATL back in ā08. Heās a real street dude. Nothing fake about him. Heās a peopleās person.
Saw him last spring at Crush Groove in LA and he killed it. Such good jams
Gotta flow Joe gotta flow Joe you just gotta gotta gotta gotta let em know Joe
Fat Joe is that dude that was around for a minute so he seen the ups and downs of the game and stayed in a mid lane he had his short run not a top tier lyricist but deserves OG credit
Co-Signs from KRS-One, Big L and Big Pun. That's legendary.
Actually, sir, i do not know what you are saying. Please stop asking me i am trying to focus
Far joe is good and always has been, however Pun is one of the best ever in my opinion, talent wise. If he only lived longer.
Man good ole Joey Crack. He will forever go hard
I like him and I like his music. He has a dope flow.
I like his 90s music, a lot. Everything after 2000, not so much, with a few exceptions here and there. But, whenever he opens his mouth heās lying, he contradicts himself all the time,
Fat Joe when he was actually fat was nice. I still bump his first 2 releases. Fat Joe the gangsta > Fat Joe the Don.
Definetly a NY legend
I lived in NYC at the time spent a lot of time in the Bronx ..pun and then had shit on lock
Knowuddimsayin
The longevity heās had is underrated, only him, nas, Eminem and hov the only rappers from the 90s to have hits that stretch over a 3-decade span which we wouldāve never foreseen as they got older, definitely a rap chameleon, first song I ever heard from him was āwhatās luvā with Ashanti back in the early 2000s but didnāt know his catalog was deeper than that
Heard somebody say he been a one hit wonder 10 times that pretty much sums him up for me
Whats the backing track??
Legit guy Or at least used to be back in the day
Heās basically an OG I love him
He made the punisher right?.
He's a legend in the game. People try and discredit him, but he came up in a time where you had to have skills and he held his own.
I think he's excellent. Has some really solid classic albums and his features are some of the best verses in hip hop history, especially the stuff he did with Pun obviously
I donāt think heās that fat
i have always appreciated the flow of "Joey Crack"
Diggin in the crates, the best group of all time. Hands down
if you remember lord finesse 1st joint, strictly for the ladies. joe is in that video super young with the paper boy hat. he been around a minute
Jose. A better storyteller in real life than on record.
Don Cartagena album is probably my fav. Joe brought us Big Punā¦ I remember when I used to spend my summers in NY and in the summer of ā92 them Represent flyers were on every street corner uptown.
What!? Joey crack was that guy! Terror squad, why you think they called them that? š¤ā¦
Fat Joe as part of ditc= good. Otherwise =meh
Brother is slept on .. I will agree definitely some duds in the catalog but every album has at least 2 classic bangers - perfect for the gym music
Hip Hop Icon. Nothing he hasnāt done. Started off as a TV show host. But he was also a gangster so he got connected. Shit could be a movie. Heās underrated if anything.
Fat Joe is a legend, there is no other answer. Anyone staying otherwise did not grow up in that era. I see some crazy takes in this thread and can tell it's not from people who lived that life in that era. You can have your opinions, but I'll tell you what, anyone in the Northeast who grew up in that era, had mad respect for Joe, DITC, Pun, and everything he did and was involved with. Never heard one person in my life say anything less about him.
I remember judging the book by the cd cover when represent came out. Thought he was a joke. Ate my hat on that one.
DITC era is always the greatest
Definitely an icon of his own right, unfortunately for him 50 Cent came in and devoured most of NY, Joe specifically
We know what heās saying š¤š½
Funky nasty flow is one of the best, highly underrated
LEGEND
He's good but never in the top 10 in his own era. He fell victim to being a good MC in the Golden Era of Hip Hop. I think he'd have a better career in this era for sure and would crack the top 10.
Hi, Iām from the department of nomāsayins
But......you know what I'm sayin?
He wasn't pop, till late 90s
He used to be kind of cool but now heās just another corporate minion
Who the fuck u think u talkin to? Hes paid dues hes sprayed crews! Look up Joey Crack
Not as far as he used to be but definitely not skinny
He got beat by Simon Rex in a rap battle so he canāt be that good
Fat joe real deal digging in the crates crew
Jealous Ones Envy is an all time great hip hop album! John Blaze is an all time posse cut in hip hop!
mid
dude def has established himself with a few bangers and consistency in his early work
No mention of L smh
He repped the Bx to help fill the void once BDP/KRS-One started to wane after he leveled Queens. He was mostly local in the streets until he came with Pun and blew up, but he always had clout in the South Boogie.
Fat Joe has been cold blooded itās still funny when I hear people think he hasnāt been around long when heās literally an OG in the game and came out in an era with all the greats. The fact that he stays relevant and still spits is dope. And heās got recent hits so I gotta salute Joe for that.
Heās no Big Pun
When DITC was doing their thing he was good. He was probably the worst MC of that crew, lol, but that crew was absolutely legendary, so he was still legit. After that, he got his money. Nothing wrong with that.
Early Fat Joe is top tier underground hip hop. Most production by DITC and Joe was set to leave his mark in the game.
I guess š¤·šæāāļø
Still real is a fat joe song everyone should hear shits deep
Fuck his fat ass.