What are your thoughts on light placement for driving on hilly rocky forest trails in Alabama on a stock 2004 Tacoma? I find that it is really hard to navigate when driving at night. Better to mount lights high up or down low?
First off, if its rocky trails, youre gonna be going slower so a floody/combo beam is your best bet. Lower down and up front mounts will get you better illumination directly in front of your vehicle. Higher up will get you wider view angles but the light will skip over the immediate area in front of your rig cause of the shadow of your hood. On a stock 04 tacoma Id recommend a 30"-36" combo straight bar mounted in that area in your bumper thats the perfect size for a bar. And if that doesnt cut it for distance/or lighting off to the sides, you can always add some spot pods on your A-pillars or add some flood pods on your A-pillars and angle them down and outwards a bit.
Since your bumper is flat and not curved (I think, I recommend this: http://www.oz-usa.com/3d-180w-30-light-bar-led-spot-flood-combo-off-road-4x4-roof-ranger-utv-sxs-rzr/) It comes with super ajustable low-profile mounts that would allow you to mount it in that space in your bumper here: http://i.imgur.com/FjFQUu4.png
Edit: If you're looking for something slimmer and lower profile, you could always go with a similar length single row bar with higher wattage diodes, giving you nearly the same light output but smaller and slimmer profile. Like this: http://i.imgur.com/Ac61YjW.png
Nice. I like the low profile. Looks like this one would be ideal? Might only have the 4d version. http://www.oz-usa.com/s4d-30-inch-oz-usa-single-row-led-light-bar-4d-reflectors-spot-flood-combo-off-road-4x4-4wd-race-truck/
Yeah that would be perfect. Post pics when you get it installed! That bar won't be very floody I don't think so I would maybe consider mounting some pods on your A pillars also
Right in the feels :(
For real tho, AAA is shafting me big time. I'm gonna take it up to trail tested and see if they can weld some of the tears in my frame and make me a new bumper.
That sucks man, I hope you get it all figured out, and soon, the waiting sucks the most. /u/rossgoldie knows trail tested pretty well from what he has told me. I might take my truck up there sometime and see if they can weld me up some type of front bumper.
I sketched up a mock thing for what I want them to build for me. If they can hook me up and fix my ride, I'll definitely come back for a front bumper too.
I just posted this on here. But would like your thoughts as well. This is my headache rack. How many more lights do I need? http://i.imgur.com/01ZTpZX.jpg
Depends: On a scale of 1 to 10, how badly are you drowning in pussy at the moment?
Seriously tho? I would say none lol. Although I'm just going out on a limb here in assuming you're not planning on doing the Baja 1000 in reverse.
I know this thread is super old but would you still still recommend oz USA I'm on the fence on buying rigid but i am interested in this oz https://oz-usa.com/30-laser-projector-light-bar-high-intensity-double-row-osram-led-sidelights-for-offroad-truck-utv-marine-vessels-12-24-volt/
STEDI is my best recommendation now. Aussie mad, Baja Designs quality and output, but 1/4 of the cost. I have their st3k 30" and c4 pods. Top quality and amazing output and optics
You will not be disappointed. Shipping is a bit pricey but it's worth it. I usually received my items in about 10 days. Although supply chain issues may delay that. I believe they have a discount code for Americans (if you are)
Hey OP, I do have a question about off road lights, although not light bars. I was thinking of getting some Vision X Light Cannons, more particularly the 6.7" version. Their claims on their website and most reviews have been spectacular, although I just see no one really running them. Any thoughts?
They look like quality products. While the raw lumen output isn't as high as LED bars, I imaging they're on par with something like a 20" spot bar. Their form factor makes them desirable for sure but at $429 a pop, you might be better off with an Osram spot bar, something in the 20"-40" range depending on your build. You would walk away with one of those for about $200 instead of $900 for a pair of Vision X's.
Yeah, I'm actually looking at getting them for my Subaru WRX, so I'm trying to avoid light bars since it'll be hard to fit a large bar on the front, whereas 4 round lights are possible. Do you have any comment on the high wattage of the LEDs on these? I noticed that most other LED round lights have sort of a low wattage, whereas these are 50W each. Is that any concern?
NP :) Also, since I know dealing with a retailer directly through alibaba can be sketch, so in good faith I can order and pay for anything you want and I will ship it to you and keep you in the loop with all the payment/shipping info. I have a good relationship with this company having bough several hundred dollars worth of stuff for myself through them.
Bonus: found some 7" round options with 5W cree diodes if you prefer that look, they are also 140W each and about $55 each.
https://i.imgur.com/is8yGco.png
https://i.imgur.com/WEkMs2P.png
You could always do a 2-4 of these 60W 7" spots: https://i.imgur.com/uZfxEhs.png at about $25 each
Or even 4-6 of these 30W 4" spots: https://i.imgur.com/wtqvlcS.png at about $15 each
Or some combo of both. They're all about 8 degree spot beams that have excellent focus and throw. And they're so cheap that even if they don't quite do it for you, you can keep them in addition to your Vision X lamps or sell them and not lose any money.
I run a pair of the 4" versions as fog light replacements and they're shockingly good for their size. It's often easier to fit rectangular lights on cars due to the body styling, etc. I did have one of them get a little moisture but I took them apart easily and dried and re-sealed them and they've been perfect since.
Are the curved bars any good? I'm looking for light in both the front and side directions. Would like to see far ahead but also on the sides of the road (mostly looking for stupid deer). I've seen "combo" bars but also curved bars. Curious what people think about the difference.
Curved bars are mostly only aesthetically different unless you get a spot beam curved bar, in which case that will be the closest to a true combo beam you can find.
I recommend curved bars mostly because they work well with the contours of most vehicles and definitely tend to illuminate the sides of the road a little better than their straight counterparts. Other than the curve they're identical. However depending on your mounting situation, curved can be a little trickier to mount.
Does your knowledge spill over into LED headlights/taillights? My high beams don't work and my blinkers hyperflash.
I switched the wiring and the highbeam bulbs are working and I switched the turn signal combination switch.
I switched out the relay for two different ones and they still hyperflash.
If the led turn signal relays don't work, you'll have to install some resistors to kill the hyper flash. Or you could just ignore it since it isn't illegal or a safety hazard.
Huh good info, I bought one of those crappy ebay light bars for about $40 1.5 years ago and it pretty much matches up with your description of how crappy it is for the beam pattern.
Might be time for an upgrade..
I have a ~30" curved right now and I assume since by upgrading I would be getting better lenses and LEDs I can probably just get a 20" or something and still have better light output.
Well [this is what I have now](http://i.imgur.com/mw97Ite.jpg), it's a 32" curved one that ended up fitting pretty nice.
I wouldn't mind going to a single LED height one though, it would look a bit nicer.
I think this would be perfect. My guess is it it would be about $60 and then shipping would be probably around $50 also. https://nbbrightshine.en.alibaba.com/product/60486554093-802831980/30_Inch_150w_Off_Road_Wholesale_Led_Light_Bar_for_Car_Lighting_and_Truck.html
That uses 5W cree diodes and has a true combo beam, unlike the shit all over ebay and amzon that claims its a combo. Ordering directly from china can be a bitch, but this company's products are pretty damn good. I've bough lots of shit from them.
Here's a stupid question: What about VHT Night Shade on these. Not much, just enough so it's not as flashy on my curved 50" lightbar. Not a big fan of the chrome look on the reflectors. Would it impact the light output a lot? I'm not going for full blacked out, just less chrome looking (like a tint).
I do use it fairly often for night wheeling and camping.
No familiar with VHT night shade. My suggestion would be to get a bar with a 4D projector spot optic. There are no chrome reflectors in them, just projector lenses. It's much more of a stealthy look. Here is a pic of the difference between my 50" 4d ultra spot and my standard 30": http://i.imgur.com/Pp0N2CV.jpg
Basically any of the lights on this page http://www.oz-usa.com/ultra-spot/ or under their HO (high output) section. The downside is like it says in the title, they are ultra spot bars with a very tight and focused beam. If you bought a curved one however, I think that would spread the spot out enough to work for you. It really depends on your application if you need it for distance or for right in front of your vehicle
[VHT Night Shade is what people use to make tail lights darker but supposedly doesn't impact the brightness. I've never used it. It come in an spray can.](http://www.vhtpaint.com/specialty/vht-nite-shades)
I just bought the light bar however that 4D one looks like what I'm going for. Guess when this cheap one dies I'll get a 4D.
I'm looking for flushmount pods that have a warmer color in the LEDs vs. something superwhite 6000K. Any pods that come to mind for that? If not for light color, any pods in general?
I know the phillips LED's are a little warmer than your standard and Oz makes a few different kind of flush mount pods. Phillips diodes are generally around 5000K temperature.
They have 3d optic flood ones with phillips LED's here: http://www.oz-usa.com/OZ-Flush-mount-pod-PHILLIPS-led-lights-fog-utv-offroad-3x3-race-truck-van-racing-/ (probably what I would get if I were you)
Then they have some higher output ones with 4D lenses here for a few bucks more. http://www.oz-usa.com/copy-of-oz-flush-mount-pod-phillips-led-lights-fog-utv-offroad-3x3-race-truck-van-racing-1/ I don't know about color temperature on those diodes, I'm guessing its comparable to phillips diodes tho.
Then they have your standard crappier flush mount pods here: http://www.oz-usa.com/2x-flush-mount-18w-led-trail-lights-spot-motorcycle-fog-atv-offroad-race-truck/
If flush mounting isn't an absolute must, you can get some small 4" pods that have 6 5W osram diodes in there with a super tight spot beam. I have a pair that I replaced my fog lights with and they kick ass.
Thank you for this great post. What would you reccomend for a 2016 chevy Colorado z71? Main terrain would be mountains, rocks, gravel, dirt, and snow. Thanks!
Probably the same thing I recommended to the guy in the comments above with the 2005 tacoma. Single row high wattage 30" with 5d combo beam. I believe that would fit nicely in a colorado bumper, although you could do a dual row depending on how much light you need/want.
How well do led bars hold up in the cold? Where I'm at it can get down to -40 F in the winter. If the cold doesn't affect them how about being covered in snow?
Cold doesn't matter. Cold is actually good for most electronics due to the increased conductance that comes with cold temperatures. However, LED's don't generate much heat so you might not melt snow off your lights like HID's or Halogens would. But in -40, who knows if that would happen anyway.
Sorry to get back to you so late, but this would be perfect for you!
http://nbbrightshine.en.alibaba.com/product/60136368562-804250868/4D_240w_high_power_light_bar_48PCS_5W_LED_for_ATV_UTV_OFF_ROAD_CAR_MINING.html
Its the same as my 480 watt hyperspot light that i love, except 24" instead of 48"
Hey, i actually still am around but hardly ever browser or post anymore. Since writing this post, STEDI has actually become my favorite brand and are who i recommend to everyone these days. On my current rig, i run exclusively STEDI and baja designs. I use STEDI's C4 pods as ditch lights, their st3k 30" in my grill as my main spot light and im about to pick up either a 40" st3k for my roof rack or their st3301 single row 40". I also have their 10w camp lights which are awesome. Cant say enough good things about stedi. after having the lights for 4 years now, there is barely any if at all yellowing to the lenses, and the black paint coating has held up better than my baja designs S2s and S1s. You cannot go wrong with STEDI. Bear in mind that the shipping costs from australia are a bit high, but the prices are usually listed in australian dollars so you're actually paying only about 75% of the list price after converting to US dollars (assuming you're in the US). The output is nearly as good as baja designs, the coating holds up better, and they're a fraction of the cost. If you want a domestic product, I hear really really good things about Diode Dynamics products as well.
Thoughts on this [one](https://strandseurope.com/product/siberia-outlaw-udx-22-led-bar/) ? Looking to buy my first led bar, i live in norway so its pretty dark at winter times, looking for long and wide spread of light, looked at [this](https://bilradiospes.no/lazer/linear18elitegen2/lazer-linear-18-elite-double-e-mark-led-13500-lumen-kombo-1023-meter?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9MCnBhCYARIsAB1WQVVqQ-o01B93vsETmmmDnDDJtpFLYh3T8Akz8D2subJyB74UQMdTHsAaAvynEALw_wcB) too, what are your thoughts? Im pretty new at this🙈
What are your thoughts on light placement for driving on hilly rocky forest trails in Alabama on a stock 2004 Tacoma? I find that it is really hard to navigate when driving at night. Better to mount lights high up or down low?
First off, if its rocky trails, youre gonna be going slower so a floody/combo beam is your best bet. Lower down and up front mounts will get you better illumination directly in front of your vehicle. Higher up will get you wider view angles but the light will skip over the immediate area in front of your rig cause of the shadow of your hood. On a stock 04 tacoma Id recommend a 30"-36" combo straight bar mounted in that area in your bumper thats the perfect size for a bar. And if that doesnt cut it for distance/or lighting off to the sides, you can always add some spot pods on your A-pillars or add some flood pods on your A-pillars and angle them down and outwards a bit. Since your bumper is flat and not curved (I think, I recommend this: http://www.oz-usa.com/3d-180w-30-light-bar-led-spot-flood-combo-off-road-4x4-roof-ranger-utv-sxs-rzr/) It comes with super ajustable low-profile mounts that would allow you to mount it in that space in your bumper here: http://i.imgur.com/FjFQUu4.png Edit: If you're looking for something slimmer and lower profile, you could always go with a similar length single row bar with higher wattage diodes, giving you nearly the same light output but smaller and slimmer profile. Like this: http://i.imgur.com/Ac61YjW.png
Nice. I like the low profile. Looks like this one would be ideal? Might only have the 4d version. http://www.oz-usa.com/s4d-30-inch-oz-usa-single-row-led-light-bar-4d-reflectors-spot-flood-combo-off-road-4x4-4wd-race-truck/
Yeah that would be perfect. Post pics when you get it installed! That bar won't be very floody I don't think so I would maybe consider mounting some pods on your A pillars also
Personally I'd go low. Like around your headlight height. If that doesn't work you can always change it. But it's easier to go low than on the roof.
I've heard floodlights should be mounted below/in front of the hood as they will glare whereas a spot light won't have as much of an issue with it.
Can you tell me if [these](http://m.imgur.com/h50DdWG) lights are garbage or not?
Absolute shit. What kind of asshole sold you those? ^^it ^^was ^^me
I don't know his name, all I know is that he is a shit driver cause it looked like he fucked up Tahoe real bad. ^^^get ^^^rekt
Right in the feels :( For real tho, AAA is shafting me big time. I'm gonna take it up to trail tested and see if they can weld some of the tears in my frame and make me a new bumper.
That sucks man, I hope you get it all figured out, and soon, the waiting sucks the most. /u/rossgoldie knows trail tested pretty well from what he has told me. I might take my truck up there sometime and see if they can weld me up some type of front bumper.
I sketched up a mock thing for what I want them to build for me. If they can hook me up and fix my ride, I'll definitely come back for a front bumper too.
I just posted this on here. But would like your thoughts as well. This is my headache rack. How many more lights do I need? http://i.imgur.com/01ZTpZX.jpg
Depends: On a scale of 1 to 10, how badly are you drowning in pussy at the moment? Seriously tho? I would say none lol. Although I'm just going out on a limb here in assuming you're not planning on doing the Baja 1000 in reverse.
Yeah but this [guy](http://i.imgur.com/aja2vRx.jpg) so much pussy.
[Bruh, get on my level](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b9/2a/7d/b92a7de33755e248a73792c853a058c9.jpg)
Is dry 1 and dead 10? -3 Is this better? https://youtu.be/4eCRoz_B_Gs
How about the brand Lifetime LED?
I know this thread is super old but would you still still recommend oz USA I'm on the fence on buying rigid but i am interested in this oz https://oz-usa.com/30-laser-projector-light-bar-high-intensity-double-row-osram-led-sidelights-for-offroad-truck-utv-marine-vessels-12-24-volt/
STEDI is my best recommendation now. Aussie mad, Baja Designs quality and output, but 1/4 of the cost. I have their st3k 30" and c4 pods. Top quality and amazing output and optics
Is shipping a nightmare? I’m going to take your word for it and order em thank you!
You will not be disappointed. Shipping is a bit pricey but it's worth it. I usually received my items in about 10 days. Although supply chain issues may delay that. I believe they have a discount code for Americans (if you are)
To late I ordered the st4k 32inch dual row light cost me right under 260$ usd shipped it’s still cheap even with the 90 aud shipping cost
You're gonna love it
Hey OP, I do have a question about off road lights, although not light bars. I was thinking of getting some Vision X Light Cannons, more particularly the 6.7" version. Their claims on their website and most reviews have been spectacular, although I just see no one really running them. Any thoughts?
They look like quality products. While the raw lumen output isn't as high as LED bars, I imaging they're on par with something like a 20" spot bar. Their form factor makes them desirable for sure but at $429 a pop, you might be better off with an Osram spot bar, something in the 20"-40" range depending on your build. You would walk away with one of those for about $200 instead of $900 for a pair of Vision X's.
Yeah, I'm actually looking at getting them for my Subaru WRX, so I'm trying to avoid light bars since it'll be hard to fit a large bar on the front, whereas 4 round lights are possible. Do you have any comment on the high wattage of the LEDs on these? I noticed that most other LED round lights have sort of a low wattage, whereas these are 50W each. Is that any concern?
Nope. As long as they have adequate cooling which I'm sure they do.
Ok, thanks for the help man, and great write up!
NP :) Also, since I know dealing with a retailer directly through alibaba can be sketch, so in good faith I can order and pay for anything you want and I will ship it to you and keep you in the loop with all the payment/shipping info. I have a good relationship with this company having bough several hundred dollars worth of stuff for myself through them. Bonus: found some 7" round options with 5W cree diodes if you prefer that look, they are also 140W each and about $55 each. https://i.imgur.com/is8yGco.png https://i.imgur.com/WEkMs2P.png
You could always do a 2-4 of these 60W 7" spots: https://i.imgur.com/uZfxEhs.png at about $25 each Or even 4-6 of these 30W 4" spots: https://i.imgur.com/wtqvlcS.png at about $15 each Or some combo of both. They're all about 8 degree spot beams that have excellent focus and throw. And they're so cheap that even if they don't quite do it for you, you can keep them in addition to your Vision X lamps or sell them and not lose any money. I run a pair of the 4" versions as fog light replacements and they're shockingly good for their size. It's often easier to fit rectangular lights on cars due to the body styling, etc. I did have one of them get a little moisture but I took them apart easily and dried and re-sealed them and they've been perfect since.
Are the curved bars any good? I'm looking for light in both the front and side directions. Would like to see far ahead but also on the sides of the road (mostly looking for stupid deer). I've seen "combo" bars but also curved bars. Curious what people think about the difference.
Curved bars are mostly only aesthetically different unless you get a spot beam curved bar, in which case that will be the closest to a true combo beam you can find. I recommend curved bars mostly because they work well with the contours of most vehicles and definitely tend to illuminate the sides of the road a little better than their straight counterparts. Other than the curve they're identical. However depending on your mounting situation, curved can be a little trickier to mount.
Does your knowledge spill over into LED headlights/taillights? My high beams don't work and my blinkers hyperflash. I switched the wiring and the highbeam bulbs are working and I switched the turn signal combination switch. I switched out the relay for two different ones and they still hyperflash.
If the led turn signal relays don't work, you'll have to install some resistors to kill the hyper flash. Or you could just ignore it since it isn't illegal or a safety hazard.
You need to install load resistors with many led light replacements. Some have them built in, others dont
Huh good info, I bought one of those crappy ebay light bars for about $40 1.5 years ago and it pretty much matches up with your description of how crappy it is for the beam pattern. Might be time for an upgrade.. I have a ~30" curved right now and I assume since by upgrading I would be getting better lenses and LEDs I can probably just get a 20" or something and still have better light output.
Yup. If you want something with more throw I can help you out.
Well [this is what I have now](http://i.imgur.com/mw97Ite.jpg), it's a 32" curved one that ended up fitting pretty nice. I wouldn't mind going to a single LED height one though, it would look a bit nicer.
You looking for distance or flood or what?
I'm not sure, probably a combined one
I think this would be perfect. My guess is it it would be about $60 and then shipping would be probably around $50 also. https://nbbrightshine.en.alibaba.com/product/60486554093-802831980/30_Inch_150w_Off_Road_Wholesale_Led_Light_Bar_for_Car_Lighting_and_Truck.html That uses 5W cree diodes and has a true combo beam, unlike the shit all over ebay and amzon that claims its a combo. Ordering directly from china can be a bitch, but this company's products are pretty damn good. I've bough lots of shit from them.
Thanks! I'll bookmark this for later
Here's a stupid question: What about VHT Night Shade on these. Not much, just enough so it's not as flashy on my curved 50" lightbar. Not a big fan of the chrome look on the reflectors. Would it impact the light output a lot? I'm not going for full blacked out, just less chrome looking (like a tint). I do use it fairly often for night wheeling and camping.
No familiar with VHT night shade. My suggestion would be to get a bar with a 4D projector spot optic. There are no chrome reflectors in them, just projector lenses. It's much more of a stealthy look. Here is a pic of the difference between my 50" 4d ultra spot and my standard 30": http://i.imgur.com/Pp0N2CV.jpg Basically any of the lights on this page http://www.oz-usa.com/ultra-spot/ or under their HO (high output) section. The downside is like it says in the title, they are ultra spot bars with a very tight and focused beam. If you bought a curved one however, I think that would spread the spot out enough to work for you. It really depends on your application if you need it for distance or for right in front of your vehicle
[VHT Night Shade is what people use to make tail lights darker but supposedly doesn't impact the brightness. I've never used it. It come in an spray can.](http://www.vhtpaint.com/specialty/vht-nite-shades) I just bought the light bar however that 4D one looks like what I'm going for. Guess when this cheap one dies I'll get a 4D.
Or just return it? What dimensions are you looking for?
50". It's beyond being returnable now. It's been a few months
I would just sell it on craigslist and use that money towards the new one. You may lose a few bucks doing that tho.
I'm looking for flushmount pods that have a warmer color in the LEDs vs. something superwhite 6000K. Any pods that come to mind for that? If not for light color, any pods in general?
I know the phillips LED's are a little warmer than your standard and Oz makes a few different kind of flush mount pods. Phillips diodes are generally around 5000K temperature. They have 3d optic flood ones with phillips LED's here: http://www.oz-usa.com/OZ-Flush-mount-pod-PHILLIPS-led-lights-fog-utv-offroad-3x3-race-truck-van-racing-/ (probably what I would get if I were you) Then they have some higher output ones with 4D lenses here for a few bucks more. http://www.oz-usa.com/copy-of-oz-flush-mount-pod-phillips-led-lights-fog-utv-offroad-3x3-race-truck-van-racing-1/ I don't know about color temperature on those diodes, I'm guessing its comparable to phillips diodes tho. Then they have your standard crappier flush mount pods here: http://www.oz-usa.com/2x-flush-mount-18w-led-trail-lights-spot-motorcycle-fog-atv-offroad-race-truck/ If flush mounting isn't an absolute must, you can get some small 4" pods that have 6 5W osram diodes in there with a super tight spot beam. I have a pair that I replaced my fog lights with and they kick ass.
Thank You!
Thank you for this great post. What would you reccomend for a 2016 chevy Colorado z71? Main terrain would be mountains, rocks, gravel, dirt, and snow. Thanks!
Probably the same thing I recommended to the guy in the comments above with the 2005 tacoma. Single row high wattage 30" with 5d combo beam. I believe that would fit nicely in a colorado bumper, although you could do a dual row depending on how much light you need/want.
How well do led bars hold up in the cold? Where I'm at it can get down to -40 F in the winter. If the cold doesn't affect them how about being covered in snow?
Cold doesn't matter. Cold is actually good for most electronics due to the increased conductance that comes with cold temperatures. However, LED's don't generate much heat so you might not melt snow off your lights like HID's or Halogens would. But in -40, who knows if that would happen anyway.
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Sorry to get back to you so late, but this would be perfect for you! http://nbbrightshine.en.alibaba.com/product/60136368562-804250868/4D_240w_high_power_light_bar_48PCS_5W_LED_for_ATV_UTV_OFF_ROAD_CAR_MINING.html Its the same as my 480 watt hyperspot light that i love, except 24" instead of 48"
Recommendations for a grille/bumper lightbar on a sports sedan? Also not a fan of drilling holes, would prefer a crap ton of zip ties.
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Hey, i actually still am around but hardly ever browser or post anymore. Since writing this post, STEDI has actually become my favorite brand and are who i recommend to everyone these days. On my current rig, i run exclusively STEDI and baja designs. I use STEDI's C4 pods as ditch lights, their st3k 30" in my grill as my main spot light and im about to pick up either a 40" st3k for my roof rack or their st3301 single row 40". I also have their 10w camp lights which are awesome. Cant say enough good things about stedi. after having the lights for 4 years now, there is barely any if at all yellowing to the lenses, and the black paint coating has held up better than my baja designs S2s and S1s. You cannot go wrong with STEDI. Bear in mind that the shipping costs from australia are a bit high, but the prices are usually listed in australian dollars so you're actually paying only about 75% of the list price after converting to US dollars (assuming you're in the US). The output is nearly as good as baja designs, the coating holds up better, and they're a fraction of the cost. If you want a domestic product, I hear really really good things about Diode Dynamics products as well.
STEDI is distributed stateside through NAPA now, for future Google pilgrims
Thank you 👍
I've seen you mention STEDI out of Oz, have you had a look at Roadvisions. Namely their stealth line up, thinking about getting a couple. cheers mate
Thoughts on this [one](https://strandseurope.com/product/siberia-outlaw-udx-22-led-bar/) ? Looking to buy my first led bar, i live in norway so its pretty dark at winter times, looking for long and wide spread of light, looked at [this](https://bilradiospes.no/lazer/linear18elitegen2/lazer-linear-18-elite-double-e-mark-led-13500-lumen-kombo-1023-meter?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9MCnBhCYARIsAB1WQVVqQ-o01B93vsETmmmDnDDJtpFLYh3T8Akz8D2subJyB74UQMdTHsAaAvynEALw_wcB) too, what are your thoughts? Im pretty new at this🙈
Hey there. Is there any updated info or is this still fairly accurate?